I've only been playing live for the past couple years and it's funny how my opinion on this subject changes, almost daily lol. The solution I use is I play through a Helix and have a power cab amp (line6 FRFR) somewhat in front angled upward. I have the helix setup so that the volume knob only effects the power cab volume and FOH direct out is left unchanged. It has saved me in a couple situations where you setup for a sound check, come back few hours later and for some reason your monitor mix is gone. The saving grace is my power cab is my monitor, and usually I'll just walk around stage to pickup the other instruments I may need to hear. Having said that, I recently bought and early 90s Fender Ultimate Chorus that I strictly use the clean channel and will run the helix to that, so I'm always on the fence now if I should go back to that setup of a mic'd amp as I do prefer the sound of a 'real' amp - and oddly I can't explain why lol. Anyway, great video, thx for posting!
Tibor thank you for all this good information. My dilemma is that I know how sound mixers work and about input gain and all of that. Typically sound engineers tell lead guitarists they are too loud ( and maybe sometimes they are ) but why does the " input gain" on the mixer need to be so " hot " ? Let me get my sound from 50 years and thousands of shows experience - and then just reduce the gain, resulting in less overall volume to the FOH and monitors. I am also a Pro Tools recording engineer producer and have some knowledge from a different angle on this subject. I'm not stuck in the past or too old to change. Always willing to learn to be better Tibor!
Thank you Tibor! that was very useful. At my next gig I'll won't have my amp miced, so I need to think of audience sound. Then you deal with a phenomenon when amp is facing you - ergo feels trebly - you tend to correct with EQ..then feels bassy for others. A solution I tried is was aim it at the corner.. but it has it own problems. Another solution might be the new Barefaced speakers..
Hi Andy, the way I do it is not to point the speaker directly at my face, but more towards my chest or stomach, this way you "cut" most of the nasty high-end. I usually wedge the feet of a guitar stand under the amp to make it tilt up a bit, or like you do it, point it a bit towards the side, but whatever works best for you.
Your tech knowledge and on-stage experience never fail to amaze me... not to mention the simplicity by which you explain the tips. The inserts are great... especially the misbehaving Muppet in the background. Nice one boet!
Cool vid. Makes sense to allow an engineer to work from FOH with the least amount of stage sound. Not only to be able to deliver the best possible balance to an audience. But important things are also Left to Right perspective without distraction from the sources setup on stage. And important is the phasing issues that occur when blending 2 similar audio sources from a different chain or distance. That all said, the best guitar sound? Cranked tube amp going into all of the mics around you with all the mentioned problems neglected, haha. You'd step back or 'move' the vocalist away from the lead vocal mic while doing a solo for a natural boost in level and depth ;)
Brilliant advice, thank you Tribor. If I ever get to play on a stage again I’ll be using this tip. I actually have a Fender Princeton for guitar and a Fender Champ for my harmonica. I’ve always struggled to hear the harmonica when playing with a band. (No problem now as I’m not in a band!) Thanks again Tribor. 🙏✨
I’m not sure you answer beginnerish questions but here goes anyway… if your main amp is in front of you and the wedges are as well (as one of your pictures showed) won’t they be fighting each other. What exactly are you listening to in such situations.
I've only been playing live for the past couple years and it's funny how my opinion on this subject changes, almost daily lol. The solution I use is I play through a Helix and have a power cab amp (line6 FRFR) somewhat in front angled upward. I have the helix setup so that the volume knob only effects the power cab volume and FOH direct out is left unchanged. It has saved me in a couple situations where you setup for a sound check, come back few hours later and for some reason your monitor mix is gone. The saving grace is my power cab is my monitor, and usually I'll just walk around stage to pickup the other instruments I may need to hear. Having said that, I recently bought and early 90s Fender Ultimate Chorus that I strictly use the clean channel and will run the helix to that, so I'm always on the fence now if I should go back to that setup of a mic'd amp as I do prefer the sound of a 'real' amp - and oddly I can't explain why lol. Anyway, great video, thx for posting!
Tibor thank you for all this good information. My dilemma is that I know how sound mixers work and about input gain and all of that. Typically sound engineers tell lead guitarists they are too loud ( and maybe sometimes they are ) but why does the " input gain" on the mixer need to be so " hot " ? Let me get my sound from 50 years and thousands of shows experience - and then just reduce the gain, resulting in less overall volume to the FOH and monitors. I am also a Pro Tools recording engineer producer and have some knowledge from a different angle on this subject. I'm not stuck in the past or too old to change. Always willing to learn to be better Tibor!
Excellent info!!! Thanks so much!!!
You are more than welcome! Glad to hear that it could help someone!
Thank you Tibor! that was very useful.
At my next gig I'll won't have my amp miced, so I need to think of audience sound.
Then you deal with a phenomenon when amp is facing you - ergo feels trebly - you tend to correct with EQ..then feels bassy for others. A solution I tried is was aim it at the corner.. but it has it own problems. Another solution might be the new Barefaced speakers..
Hi Andy, the way I do it is not to point the speaker directly at my face, but more towards my chest or stomach, this way you "cut" most of the nasty high-end. I usually wedge the feet of a guitar stand under the amp to make it tilt up a bit, or like you do it, point it a bit towards the side, but whatever works best for you.
Your tech knowledge and on-stage experience never fail to amaze me... not to mention the simplicity by which you explain the tips. The inserts are great... especially the misbehaving Muppet in the background. Nice one boet!
Thanks for the kind words boet :)
@@TiborRisko - Just telling it from the heart.
Cool vid. Makes sense to allow an engineer to work from FOH with the least amount of stage sound. Not only to be able to deliver the best possible balance to an audience. But important things are also Left to Right perspective without distraction from the sources setup on stage. And important is the phasing issues that occur when blending 2 similar audio sources from a different chain or distance.
That all said, the best guitar sound? Cranked tube amp going into all of the mics around you with all the mentioned problems neglected, haha. You'd step back or 'move' the vocalist away from the lead vocal mic while doing a solo for a natural boost in level and depth ;)
Brilliant advice, thank you Tribor.
If I ever get to play on a stage again I’ll be using this tip.
I actually have a Fender Princeton for guitar and a Fender Champ for my harmonica. I’ve always struggled to hear the harmonica when playing with a band. (No problem now as I’m not in a band!)
Thanks again Tribor. 🙏✨
Cool stuff Benny Boy Slim, I hope the trick will help you, I've been playing like this for years and the sound engineers are a lot happier too ;)
Strong work!!
Hey Tibor!!!! Always a pleasure watching your videos!! Great advice given here!! Cheers!!🎸🎶🎼🎶
Thanks for the kind words Jamal! Hope all is well! Happy B-day btw! ;)
Tibor Risko Thank you!!
I’m not sure you answer beginnerish questions but here goes anyway… if your main amp is in front of you and the wedges are as well (as one of your pictures showed) won’t they be fighting each other. What exactly are you listening to in such situations.