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I’ve watched many of his videos. This is by far the best. Never stop being honest.
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Hi Josh love your video's
Been full time for 6 years now. Was stuck in Wisconsin this last winter. My Hitchhiker did an amazing job even at 15 below. Never winterized my unit.
One thing I often see when this subject is brought up. People don't think that the additional insulation will also help you stay cool in the summer's as well.
Thank you so much for your honesty & integrity with your informed explanation of the term “4 Season”
Camper trailers 👍👍
Josh, the bridge analogy is excellent!
Thanks Joshua!! Honesty is the best policy!!
Thank You Joshua for clearing up the 'Four Seasons' Myth!!!!! And yes, the BS out there on the internet is DEEP!!! Most people are not in their RV's full time and especially not in the frozen tundra!!! I have seen videos from large numbers of companies and retailers. It is TOUGH to decipher the truth from the bull!!! Thanks for being honest!!! :)
When I'm ready to retire in 2 years,I'm selling my first rv. For a FULL Time, Full SEASON RV,FOR WINTER...
How does one buy from you,if I'm in MISSOURI,on line or come there..and haul it home.
I love the new design of the front kitchen,rear bedroom,is there anyway I could get couches that both make a bed,instead of the love seat with the divider in the center...
Can a person make a few Suttle changes ,,,instead of buying off the Rack so to speak!!.
R-72 is like me telling an auto dealer that 8 use the 80/20 blend of nitrogen in my truck tires. Gets’em every time... Great explanation.
I DO want to live full time in mine, so yes I do need one that is fully insulated for winter. I don't WANT to be in a cold area in the winter, but if something happens and I have to stay there, then I want to be prepared as much as possible
_Exactly._ Me, too. And it's not necessarily about avoiding freezing of the plumbing underneath, it's simply about not having to consume the world's supply of propane every few days just to stay comfortable.
Ive learned a whole lot from watching your videos. I still have much more to learn. But thank you for posting all the videos you do post.
wow this is before excited josh came around lol, I like both versions
Hi Josh, I’m not sure how I stumbled on your videos but I’m glad I did
I greatly appreciate your videos. I wish you where here in Canada. As our winter season is very different from our southern neighbors. Our 3 seasons will have days and nights at -10 plus a windchill. That's below anyone's testing at zero 4 season package.
It is catching on up here of living in a RV year round. More campsites are catering to the demand. I am one of those planning on taking this leap starting in June or July. I currently work with 3 people who live in their units user round. I'm in Alberta where we do see -30 plus chilled making it -45. The summer back up to plus 35 Celcius. These are extreme differences. And there really are only few units with skirting that work well under those circumstances.
Thanks again for your videos. Love seeing what is coming up amd the honesty and knowledge of buyers to pay close attention to details.
I love the Canadian perspective on this and appreciate the input. This is one of those aspects of the industry that has become over-inflated to the point of absurdity since I first started my career. Sadly... I don't see it ever really clearing up
thanks joshua I'll definitely will buy from Hayleth when am ready n travel not a issue we spoke while back don't expect you remember we spoke about the Rockwoods, appreciate your honesty n transparency n inlightment, as well keep putting out the great videos I appreciate them n educated at the same time about different model RVs
Usirus Ptah I like the name brother revolutionary
I have the "Arctic package" on my Springdale.enclosed underbelly I believe. I got in there and took a look , there is some insulation in most places but not all. The thing I like is the heat is on the bottom. Not sure how it will hold up in the mountains in the winter but I think it the furnace runs every once and while it will be ok..
Josh, You are truly first class. I've been watching your videos most of tonight. You Sir are the best salesman Ive ever watched or seen.
Well I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Josh, I really appreciate this video, IMO it's much-needed.
Now, I'm admittedly a complete newcomer to the world of RV's and was especially interested in your reference to RV skirting to keep the underside of the RV from freezing. I haven't seen manufacturers offer that as an option so I'll assume that such aftermarket "universal skirting" can be purchased for most travel trailers to help insulate their underbellys and at least keep freezing winds out to whatever degree possible.
RVs are designed for being moved. That's why you don't see skirting from a MFG. It is and SHOULD be something purely in the realm of aftermarket use.
There are several ways of accomplishing this.
Step 1.) Find the RV that works for you.
Step 2.) Introduce you to our parts managers so they can give you those options.
Making a skirt for my camper is mind blowing. Thanks man.
Hope it helps buddy!!
I have a Kodiak ultra lite 4 season model, a about 4O grand. All aluminum welded bear cage frame.. i agree with what he is saying.. i am happy with my camper. Spent 3 years so far continuous use . In very cold conditions . In a permanent location. Had trouble with the supply line freezing that goes to rhe camper. But internal lines never froze up on me. My camper has a sealed bottom.. retired in a wooded location.. i do have a power l supply.. problems happen. I just deal with them accordingly.. its not a house, but i am happy with the product. Long term and continouse use is hard on the floors .. enjoying the life style.. best wishes to all doing the same ❤
THANK YOU! We have been researching this. Great honest video and shed a lot of light on deceptive marketing! JOSH-INTEGRITY TRUMPS EVERYTHING! You possess it! Thank you.
We try. Here's a few more videos on the topic: czcams.com/video/zGz07cC9QhQ/video.html & czcams.com/video/DsPXAm4jPUk/video.html
Thanks so much for recommending this video it really helped as I'm looking for something to live in year-round
My pleasure! There's a lot of shady information out there and people need to know these things BEFORE they pull the trigger on a lot of money. Be confident in working with our dealership and give our team a call at 800-256-5196!
Thanks for the honesty Josh. As you know, we've had a fairly lengthy conversation on this exact subject, so your aware of what I'm looking for. This is a question many people are asking and this is a perfect time to ask. Minus the marketing BS, which travel trailers have a TRUE four season/winter/polar/full time living(whatever they want to call it) package? Personally for us we're looking for something under 6000 lbs. Thanks for this honest and informative video.
There's VERY few truly proven in that range. These are about the only ones I can think of...
→ czcams.com/video/Ga9z4yQzTxU/video.html
and → czcams.com/video/DMNTCnOxiuo/video.html
GREAT VIDEO! Makes me very glad I went with my 2019 eagle. My plan (since I'll be living year round in it in Canada) is to construct a frame under it, adding a couple inches of polystyrene and then skirting THAT in. I will also be building a frame around it with that corrugated fiberglass you often see on sunroom roofs for the walls and the roof, adding a sort of greenhouse effect to keep the wind out and a little bit of heat in. I'd remove the walls for the summer, giving back that openness and airy feeling. So essentially, it will be under a large car port that I'd wall in for the winter. This should also give the roof some added sun protection, extending the life of the membrane. Fingers are crossed! lol
Meanwhile, all your friends will spend the winter here for $300 per month (full hookups). They will leave when it starts getting hot. Oh, don't forget the heat tape.
@@TheBandit7613 : )Hi where is here?⬆️ What did mean by that
Thanks
Super explanation great video . It’s not to defer people from buying , just to change the approach of looking at it . Keep it up please
Thanks 👍
Okay, you are not one of those cute couples with a cute dog and beautiful aesthetic in your dream RV living space...... but your information is so damn helpful! I random watch their videos but I will hands down, no question, subscribe to you and have you as my go to for a good source of info. You are going to save me from a lot of beginner mistakes! Thank you very very much! Keep doing you!
Man, I needed this; eventually, I will be in two opposite climates. South Florida & Tennessee by Nashville & Maggie Valley, NC. Allot of this will be winter they do have days they reach under 32F in TN. Never thought about what you said while moving on the road in freezing weather. Aftermarket diesel heater install? Fill the lines with Vodka so that my lines don't freeze while in movement? When at the RV park do I need a special line warmer or do the water outlets freeze? I get it..skirting and heated underbelly. I have homework. Personally, I want to Camp in the winter and see snow! Early 50's and like cross country skiing and hiking in the snow.
It's so funny you mention filling the lines with vodka. I kinda have a video on exactly that right here czcams.com/video/SLE0zWUimSM/video.html
Thank you this video helps a lot I'm looking in to full time so probably Park Model skirted might do the job more research lol
I'm in Canada. I use my jayco 24bh during the winter in -37 Celsius. The Glacier package is only an added bonus. haha it only stays warm enough to survive.
I watch your videos all the time. (currently looking at buying a trailer). I have seen ads for ultra lite weight trailers having an enclosed underbelly. Will that not prevent freezing? thanks!
Enclosed doesn't necessarily mean insulated and in some cases doesn't even mean heated. Basically a piece of corrugated plastic skin on the underbelly. It would be like building a house but never putting insulation in the roof "because it's enclosed."
Make sense?
Thank you. Very much. 👍🤘✌😁❤
Just started watching your videos. You are the real deal. I have now subscribed and get notifications.
Question: I have a Kodiak 291RESL and when the AC, 13500, is running I can barley hear my TV through the TV speakers. I have speakers throughout the RV but they only function with the radio/bluetooth/DVD, etc. What would you recommend? Techie is not in my vocabulary but at 62 I still try to learn things.
Also, I have friends I would love to spend time with in Canada. In one of your videos you mentioned Grand Design; I was considering one of their 5th wheels for the R-factor reason. I can deal with 15-25 degrees, anything less I head south, so I will pick my time to visit. I will now, however, revisit their specs.
Thank you, I am a fan.
My hangup with GD is not their product, but their really deceptive advertising. They don't have an R-52 roof. They don't have an R-38 floor. Their insulation isn't inferior to a comparable product, but it's not AT ALL what they claim it to be.
You should be considering an Eagle. Actual superior insulation with proven testing data and whisper quiet A/C so you don't have to crank up your TV. That's the brand I'd recommend given the information you provided here.
Great video Joshua.
Would you have any suggestions for someone trying to full time in South Dakota. The tricky part is finding something that can be pulled by a diesel GMC Canyon. Love your content
Best suggestion is to contact our team. You have a specific goal for which only general quick advisory will not be sufficient. in return for the opportunity to earn your business our team is always happy to find something tailored to your specific situation.
This man is honest!
He did say he’d TRY to be honest. His own words.
I will be living in my trailer 24/7; 6 months as a Canadian snowbird and the other 6 months above the 49th - mostly in Atlantic Canada where it still goes below freezing in May as well as October. What manufactures/brands/models etc would you recommend as being the best at insulating/heating there tanks/lines/gate valves etc. Thanks, I know that's a lot to ask.
Give our team a call at 800-256-5196 or email sales@haylettrv.com & they can work to provide some specific suggestions rather than general advisory which is all I'd be able to provide here.
So have a Mini Lite with heated tanks, covered underbelly but no ducted heat to underbelly. If it's 28 overnight for a few hours and warms to 45F during the day, are we likely to freeze up and cause damage? Not connected to a water supply but using onboard fresh water.
We have a staff member with a non-enclosed belly and no heated tanks who got thru a 17 degree night
He was super spooked the whole time but made it thru. You’ll be fine :)
Josh what does 4 season mean we have a Montana 3921fb 2019.
Great Job!
Hehehheee, good job Josh! Oh me, way up in Michigan, eh? I'm about 1,000 miles south if you! But, I need to come up and see you for our next RV. We're on our third travel trailer, it's been a great one! Going on 19 years of use, been good, but we're wanting something a bit bigger now. Our goal is to follow the weather, but, alas, we do get caught in the cold sometimes! Daughter and son in law also live in cold country and we plan to use our trailer to spend time there maybe even at Christmas. So, we have to plan for that. Thanks a lot Josh! No, honesty is not the best policy. Honesty is the ONLY policy. You can use that. My pastor from 40 years ago used to say it that way. It's true.
Looking forward to meeting you and the family!
I would never queation a mans knowledge who's sunglasses are that badass
Josh, you mentioned the Jayco 5th wheel. Does the Eagle travel trailer have the same features?
Yes, it does. Eagle trailers and fifth wheels are built to the same specs with the same equipment & packages. Eagle HT fifth wheels will also share an equipment package with the new Eagle HT travel trailers that are only now just starting to hit production.
Someone actually honest! Thank you! But I live in Maine. It gets 30 or 40 below with wind chill up here. I actually do need a true four season. How do I do that? Does this info apply to that, or is that temp just too extreme? Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
Serious weather like that requires serious things like skirting and possibly belly heating on your RV regardless of which brand you choose or what claims they make regarding their seasonal capabilities.
Thank you for not sugar coating.... what is the best insulated RV where weight is not an issue?
In what segment? That's quite open ended and I suspect you have a specific search in mind.
great video,thanks you're the best
Even with an enclosed heated underbelly, you will have problems. Reason being the build quality is generally not good enough to prevent cold air infiltration. If your slide out mechanism penetrates the main frame rails, you will be lucky to be able to use the camper in temperatures below about 28 degrees F. You also have the issue that the frame efficiently conducts heat away from the underbelly area. If you don't have those frame penetrations, you can drop your belly cover and insulate the inside of the frame using extruded polystyrene insulation (i.e. XPS foamboard, Owens Corning Foamular being readily available) and expanding foam insulation in a can (Great Stuff being commonly available). If you also run the foam board from side to side of the trailer, just behind the belly cover and air seal everything back up when you reinstall the belly cover, you have the potential to be able to use the trailer well below freezing.
Notice I say potential. Most won't be able to. Reason being you have to use the furnace to get heat into the underbelly area. The furnace burns propane. This is bad for three reasons, only one of which is true. The true one is you have to pay for propane, whereas if you are in a campground, you can use electric heaters, which are much cheaper because the electricity is free (campground owners provide free electricity out of the kindness of their hearts; they would never pass along their costs in their site fees). The false reasons are that the furnace will fill your camper with carbon monoxide and water vapor from the combustion products. If you don't understand why these are false statements, it is because you don't understand that an RV furnace draws air in from outside into a sealed combustion chamber and exhausts the combustion products outside. If you look at the outside where the furnace is, there is a little chrome thing with a hole in it a little over an inch in diameter where this is done. It has a warning stamped into it that it is hot. When your furnace is running, you can stick your hand up near this and feel the hot combustion byproducts coming from this vent. No combustion byproducts are vented to the inside of the RV, but don't listen to me (nobody does). Instead, listen to your brother in law's coworker's grandfather's neighbor's nephew's old classmate who will tell you the story about how his neighbor's sister's ex-boyfriend's brother died from carbon monoxide poisoning in a trailer (but they leave out the detail that they weren't using the furnace, they were using a kerosene heater). 🤔
Excellent video thank you
Glad it was helpful!
😊👍Good Stuff, Great Tips
Another great vid!!
Thank you John!! I am in search for Travel Trailer for my brother he will be live in Full time
What brand would you recommend? We live in Livingston TX
Would need to know more about you and how you plan to go RV'ing to really be able to offer suggestions. Give our team a call at 800-256-5196, let us get to know you, and we can provide more personalized suggestions in return for the fair opportunity to earn your business
Who's John?
I respect and appreciate your honesty & thorough presentation 👍.. That said, Do the Montana trailers like the 294/295RL qualify as a full time mobile home that will stay warm in freezing winter weather?
Montana rvs have been 0 degree rated since 2005!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd 👍👍
Love your stuff ♥️🤣🤣
TY David :)
Thx for the info. My wife she i want to live in an RV all year round but also don't want anything to big. Won't be buying a 3/4 ton truck to pull one of full time RVn.. So... Jayco?? Please let me know. Thx
A smaller cougar might be a good fit for you. Something like one of these perhaps?
→ 22MLS: czcams.com/video/YEvhvT5bCSM/video.html (Also available with a booth dinette as seen here czcams.com/video/bs9TWfN8Hw4/video.html)
→ 22RBS: czcams.com/video/DMNTCnOxiuo/video.html
→ 26RBS: czcams.com/video/kHxjVzALMKI/video.html
Leave me a few comments on those & let me know what you think
I live in northern South Dakota and need a travel trailer or a camper for the back of a pick up that can with stand below zero extreme cold. Yes I maybe living in it during very cold weather for work. I don’t need anything huge. It will just be for me and my dog.
See previous reply - important to understand RVs are not truly "Four seasons" meaning "any weather" or "all weather"
What do you know about the Venture RV line? Looking specifically at the Sporttrek Touring Edition models. Just wondering I hear about Jayco and Grand Design.
They're the "up line" from KZ. I would be a liar if I said I knew specifics on them and I won't make up nonsense or bash another product just because we don't handle it here.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you very much.
I'm confused about trucks. my high school teacher told me that a ton is 2000 pounds So what is a half ton truck ? Is it a Ford 1500 or a Dodge 1500 .
It's confusing because it's completely outdated terminology.
The phrases "Half-ton, three quarter ton, and one ton" used to refer to the in-bed payload of a truck. Meaning a half-ton pickup like an F150 used to be rated for about 1,000lbs of cargo weight.
Those terms are still used, but the capacity of the trucks has since changed.
Can you please answer this question for us. We will be living in our travel trailer for 10 months whiile we build our new home. Through 1 winter in Massachusetts on the New Hampshire boarder. I liked 2 different RV's but was told one had the "winterized" package including the insulated underbelly. The 2021 Embrace EL275 or the 2021 Keystone Ultralite 291UBH. Yes the snowflakes may be flying! We realize we have to make other preperations including a heated hose and many other steps to prepare. Thank you!
Apologies - I am not familiar with the embrace. Never heard of it
Which Keystone brand is that 291UBH? Is that an outback model??
@@JoshtheRVNerd No apologies of course. Yes, Outback amd comes with some winterizing. The Embrace although lovely does not. We are newbies.
Did some digging. That outback is enclosed, heated, and includes a reflective barrier. It’s a solid package
But you get nasty winters there. You will 100% want to skirt the trailer at least to get thru the winter and look into some things like supplemental belly heating systems.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you so much! I think it has the heated under belly. I have my answer now. So appreciated.
I live in Oklahoma...and I am looking at a B van rv....and temps get down to 20s and so....what woukd you recommend? Ahhhhh u answered lol 😂😂😂 shirt the van....
Let me know what u think? Im new to this...thanks
I'm having a little difficulty following some of your comment. I think what you're asking is what Class B I would recommend for cold camping. I am not well versed in B-Class motorhomes & really am not a suitable source for recommendations.
I'm not to proud to admit when I *don't* know something.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you sir! Loved this video tho! I am new to the rv world...and have been looking at the Sprinters and Dodge Promasters chassis rvs....and have heard that 4 season terms. So with me living in Oklahoma where temps from November to Feb can dip to windchill to 20s...im making sure that i find something that can be used during that time too. Hopefully i explained better 😂
Is the Jayco Fleetwood 27’ 5th wheel considered four seasons for Michigan winter. What can I do to make it so!?
I'm very confused as Jayco and Fleetwood are two completely different things -- like Ford and Chevy.
The good news however, is any and all Jayco fifth wheels are cold camp rated.
Haylett RV thanks! What is terry. There is one that says that on the side? I’m looking at a few of these. I’m a soon to be college grad and would like to live in one pay off college debt! Thanks again!
@@nathanharris6445 Terry is a Fleetwood RV. That company is no longer in business unfortunately.
Without knowing more about the RV there's no way we can even begin to assist you with your request. It's also very likely what you're seeking to do isn't exactly easy or cost effective depending on the details of the specific RV in question. There's no "here's what you do" sort of guide to be provided.
Older RVs like that weren't made with the insulation packages of today's fifth wheels. Short of peeling apart the roof/belly and applying enhanced insulations and radiant barriers there's no much you can do beyond skirt it and pump that furnace.
Many of the newer rv's use foam insulation which isn't as thick as fiberglass, yet has a higher R-value per inch of thickness.
Usually found only in the walls which are the least important from a heating/cooling standpoint. The end result is the same R-value as a common constructed wall made of wood framing and batten insulation.
Even close cell foam will not get you a massive r value. 3” foam is about a r12.... also a large part is how it is sealed to the rest of the structure (spray foam)
Depending on where you reside and the temperatures determines what you need. I would always opt for the most insulation possible for both hot and cold weather. You will be more comfortable in either climate. I live in Canada and we camp year round, winter -25c/-13f and summer 35c/95f. The more insulation you have the easier and more cost effective your unit will be. In cold weather we do not use the water we use water jugs and port a potties. We control our humidity and supplement with electric heat.
The only trick with the logic of "The most possible in all cases" is it's often overkill for the needs of most individuals. Minimal benefit with maximal cost.
Things like this are best addressed and tailored to each client's needs and preferences.
Haylett RV , I totally agree. However I think many people look at estetics, before build quality of build.
@@BigRed334 Oh absolutely. Most people certainly "buy with their eyes" before anything else.
I would like to say I'm immune to it, but there's certainly cases where I've done the same.
Hello josh
I have watched your videos for some time now, as well as others. My family purchased our first rv almost a year ago. A forest river palomino saber lite 28bh. The rv is fairly low quality as you know. And is NOT half ton towable with my 2014 Toyota Tundra 1794. In truth it is, until you put the family in the truck and actually load the rv. So we went to the Ford dealer for a super duty truck which we did not want to have to buy (70k). I wished I would have found you before I bought my rv. I have learned so much since then. I will most definetly come see you to purchase our next rv. No two ways about it. Probably mid 2018.
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication on the consumer side of the rv experience.
Wow! Thanks so much for all of the kind words! Hopefully you can get plenty of good camping in before we meet (then even more *better* camping in after we meet!)
Wouldn’t a better insulated unit also stay cooler in the 95-100 degree days we have all summer long down here in GA?
Oh sure. But, it doesn't take much to tip the balance in your favor.
I've had requests on "hot camper tips." I need to do that...
Pull your window shades to keep out the sun. A little reflectix film is dirt cheap and super effective. Put it in things like the vents & on the windows. I've seen people cover skylights with it as well.
Even something without special extra fancy insulation and just a simple enclosed underbelly helps prevent that cold A/C air from bleeding thru the floor and out of the RV. A few fans to circulate air help greatly as well.
The temp difference between summer and winter temps and the ideal temp of 70 means winter temps are harder to prepare for. In summer if it 100 degrees outside, you are only 30 degrees from the ideal temp of 70. In winter if it is 0 degrees you are 70 degrees from the ideal temp of 70. More insulation is always better, but in extreme cold it is needed just to allow the furnace to reach a comfortable temp.
So hypothetically, if I moved into one to live in, in very far northern USA where wind chill can be -40 regularly, what would be a good brand, model etc. provided it would be skirted
Brands like Montana/Cougar/Eagle/North Point/Pinnacle/Open Range would be good places to start. Understand you're doing a bit of dice rolling with that level of cold & we cannot guarantee performance. Also understand no brand can.
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In your honest opinion which brand has the the best "four seasons" package and the best insulation.
Open Range. Period.
There are plenty of other well rated RVs out there, but Open Range carries the highest temps during 0 degree testing. Jayco is darn close, though.
In a 0 degree setting for 24hrs Open Range's underbelly stayed a consistent 62 degrees with the thermostat set on 70 inside. I am aware of no brand eclipsing this number. Again, a few are close.
Thanks for the quick response! I've had my eye on the open ranges.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Some Keystone models state they are rated below 0, the Alpine being -14 and the Avalanche -4. Have you had any experience testing those?
@@carlosgiovani9144 We don't test the RVs. The MFGs do the testing in a controlled setting. There are too many environments variables otherwise
What is the best 4 season full time 5th wheel on the market today? Your opinion.
Hi Jimmie. There's no direct answer to this question really. If there was a clear "best," then we wouldn't have a variety of options here.
Normally the default answer to this would be something like Montana as it has been THE #1 in full time RV'ing for about 18 years now (which is an incredible level of dominance)
And certainly Montana is still a VERY good answer to this question
But the answer really depends on what you're looking to accomplish with the RV.
We have Full Time RV Warranted offerings in the form of Cougar, Montana, Eagle, North Point, Pinnacle, Talon, and Seismics -- quite a selection really.
They each shine in their own light, so it's important to get to know a client so we can provide more personalized recommendations for such a large purchase. Our team at 800-256-5196 is always happy to assist you along the way in return for the fair opportunity to earn your business!
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you so much for the information. I was under the info Jayco products voided all warranty if you were fulltime, only Grand Design had the warranty for fulltime living.
@@jimmiephillips1814 I would encourage you to investigate that more closely. Upon doing so you'll find that's not actually the case.
In fact, in their own words here is the exact wording of their warranty provisions:
"The Grand Design RV Limited Warranties cover your new recreational vehicle as follows:
Our "Base Limited Warranty" covers your RV for a period of 12 months (1 year) against defects in material and workmanship from the date of retail purchase or when the unit was first placed into service (whichever comes first).
This warranty covers defects in material & workmanship that occur during normal use when utilized for the intended purpose of traveling & camping.
Coverage is contingent on the owner following the required & recommended maintenance schedule that is incorporated in the Owner's Manual.
The "Base Limited Warranty" is transferrable during the warranty period (for the balance of the remaining warranty period) to subsequent owners with proper registration.
Our "Limited Structural Warranty" covers specific structural components for a period of 36 Months (3 Years) against defects in material and workmanship from the date of retail purchase or when the unit was first placed into service (whichever comes first).
The "Limited Structural Warranty" covers defects in material & workmanship that occur during normal use when utilized for the intended purpose of traveling & camping, and is contingent on the owner following the required & recommended maintenance schedule that is incorporated in the Owner's Manual.
The "Limited Structural Warranty" is not transferrable to subsequent owners.
Items with defects in material and/or workmanship directly attributable to Grand Design RV (and not the component manufacturer) will be repaired or replaced (at Grand Design's discretion) with new original or substituted new parts (of like quality) during the warranty period at no cost to the RV owner.
"
There is allowance here for Full Time RV'ing or Full Time Living.
Several of their products have statements like "Warranted for Seasonal Use," but there is no definition provided to define what that means (and thereby no coverage).
So what is a good cold weather trailer in 16 to 17 ft range.
Above freezing? You're fine.
Below freezing? There are exactly zero mainstream MFGs that are cold camp rated in this size range. You will want to take special precautions for anything below 0 as well -- no matter its camp rating.
What about the Lance 15' travel trailer, The Rpod's.
Same answer. Lance claims to have a four seasons insulation package in an ultralite, but offers no testing data to back that up. I know exactly how they're built. And they're built with the same thicknesses and methods as every other light weight on the market. Doesn't mean they're built poorly -- just means they're not built in any special way.
And an R-Pod has absolutely no special insulation package about it. No different than any other small, normal light weight trailer on the market.
Small RVs across the board simply are not made for full timing in a cold camp situation. They're tiny mobile pretend houses -- not arctic insulated tiny houses.
What sort of temps are you expecting? Before freezing temps there's no problems. Even below freezing you'll generally have no problems maintaining cabin temps -- only water service becomes a concern then.
Understand I'm not thrilled with the answer I offer here because there are a number of people like you that want something small for cold camp use. As a dealer I don't make money by telling you "no," but I'm also not going to purposely mislead you simply to make a quick sale. That's just not how we operate here. My answers may be disappointing, but hopefully you can at least respect us for them.
So according to your answer there's relay no trailer out there for high mountain camping. The temps are around mid 60 in middle of the day and then at night it drops to 3 dgrs some times 2 dgrs below, some times it snows, to give you an idea, one time i cross a river with my truck going throw trails about 4 miles later i stop and looked and in the front of the truck there was a 2 ft x 10" piece of ice clinging to the front grill. Ha I know you going to tell me go hunt some place else, but its beautiful up there. My main concern with a trailer is the water tank and lines, i can turn or the furnace and put on a coat if i need to but i don't want the water tank cracking from freeze. Ok so can you tell me with trailer has insulated water system? in a hard panel construction 7' wide trailer. Let me say i rely appreciate you taking the time to answer my repeated questions, but i consider you one of the few that really know the travel trailer business and i think you might come up with something.Thank you.
What you're encountering is that RVs are built to appeal to the most broad-use categories possible. You're seeking a *very* specific set of criteria that aren't generally applicable to a more broad-scale audience. In other words "Square peg/round hole."
Can it be done? Sure.
Out of the box? Not exactly.
So how then? With a few smart decisions. Do some googling on simple cold-camp protection methods and I think you'll discover this is a lot easier to accomplish with *extremely* minimal effort.
What about rockwood ultra lite?
Not “four seasons.”
Looking at year, around. There is snow, some cold. - 20 maybe
Real talk: No RVs are built from the factory guaranteed to function in that weather. That's why I dislike the phrase "Four seasons" -- it sets what I feel is a misleading expectation.
For weather like that you'll want/need to do things like skirting, supplement under-the-belly heating, and likely block out windows/vents where you can (And add a dehumidifier or two to manage the condensation inside)
I want to live in one full time but I want a big kitchen and bathroom. At 22 to 24 . I don't want a bus , but for easy driving and parking .
Are you seeking motorized or towable?
@@JoshtheRVNerd So not towable, I would tear up a neighborhood. Im looking a 22 or 24. With a size like me 5"2 but makes me feel like royalty inside. Ha.. Ha , now the joke cheap.. 😀😀😀
@@lisabarnes380 tough set of qualities to conjure in that size. Have you seen anything that is *close* to what you're seeking?
@@JoshtheRVNerd OMG, I just literally Cried at seeing this but the cost is crazy.. The Super C motor home Thor Omni. ... I Cried....,,
For some reason I still don't understand what 4 seasons means 🤔
Sneaky grand design 🤤
four seasons is a promise that the RV will last for 12 months
Why do you not talk about class C cold weather ability.
X195. Period.
Four Seasons ( as long as you stay South of Mason Dixon Line )😏
lol you're not wrong
No such thing as a true 4 Season
Who goes camping in zero degrees?
The people from that movie Alive? *cough*