The BEST PARTY In Baldur's Gate 3 - Honor Mode Full Party Build Guide
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Four great builds and they all work great together! Do massive damage, be nearly invincible, and render every enemy helpless with this party that covers all bases, from dialogue to damage, from spell to sword!
Making sure all characters have great synergy, don't compete for items, and cover every possible scenario is hard. Luckily, I've got you covered!
For full video guides to the individual builds:
Eldritch Knight Fighter / War Cleric: • The CONSISTENT KILLER ...
Abjuration Wizard / White Dragon Sorcerer : • The Invincible TANK WI...
Light Cleric: • The BEST SUPPORT CLERI...
College of Swords Bard / Fighter: • The BARDIC MACHINE GUN...
Full detailed level guide from 1-12, including stats, feats, items, and abilities!
0:00 Intro and Build Goals
3:11 Eldritch Knight Thrower
17:53 Abjuration Wizard Tank
31:19 Light Cleric
42:02 Swords Bard Archer - Hry
Combination is so safe even IGN journalist can manage to finish balanced mode with it.
Mmmhm (they will add this combo is racist)
7.8/10, too many ice surfaces
😂😂
@@dimitrisdimitriadis4913 no such thing, lol
Not to mention that dreaded BLOATED 3rd act
[Below are my notes and tips from having played this party all the way through the game]
Original comment:
No shot that you uploaded this right as I was researching to put together an optimal honour mode party!
Thank you very much for your videos, I've come to trust you as my best source for Baldur's Gate 3 guides because you don't cut corners and are transparent about all the asterisks that come with applying these interwoven mechanics.
Edit 1: About 30 hours deep into honour mode with this party, I have some notes that might help people in the future:
- For Tav, I played a human and realised this build doesn't inherently get longbow proficiency until level 7, but this can be mitigated with the gloves of archery until you upgrade to gloves of dexterity.
- The party is really strong, I ended the hag in one turn at lvl 6 as well as the Matriarch at lvl 5. It does feel like Tav and Lae'zel are doing most of the heavy lifting in the early game.
- Do NOT pick up the The Sparky Points lightning trident, it does not generate lightning charges when thrown. The Spellsparkler is probably the best choice, especially as Gale felt a bit weak in the damage department in the early game.
- The Luminous Armour is another great source of Radiant Orb accessible pretty early
- When respeccing Tav after obtaining the Gloves of Dexterity, you can comfortably raise Charisma to 17 and eventually bump that to 18 with the hag's hair
- Wood Woad Shield and Nature's Snare synergise extremely well with our frontline Gale early on, dishing out lots of Ensnared.
- Returning Pike is probably one of the better weapons to use with Lae'zel in the early game due to its higher damage, despite its redundancy with bound weapon.
- And this last one I just have to get off my chest as well, do NOT cast guidance or any other spell in the post-fight dialogue with the hag, it will trigger her LA and resume the fight. Generally, knowing how to do a hard emergency reset is a good idea. I've already almost lost the run at level two because that one assassin bug bear at the grove was freely moving while I was in combat with it and in turn-based mode like nobody's business.
Edit 2: Done with Act 2 now, the party has served me pretty well. Overall I have to really credit these builds with the fact that I don't even remember the last time one of my characters dropped below 50% of their health. However, it feels a bit lacking in the offensive department at times. If I were to start my honour run with what I know now, I would make one change to remedy that:
I'd respec Gale into a fire sorcerer (see cepha's build) in conjunction with the Hat of Fire Acuity, as Arcane Acuity + Control spells pretty much already provides such reliable control that it compensates for the lack of tanking. Other than that, here are a few tricks I picked up:
- The Flawed Helldusk Gloves on my eldritch thrower have an unexpected synergy with BOOOAL's Benediction. They frequently cause Bleeding which then gives my entire party advantage on the target. This is likely a bug, as the gloves' tooltip states that the bleeding effect applies to unarmed attacks, but the damage bonus you get from the gloves on throws is actually fire damage, which corresponds to weapon damage in the tooltip. Additionally, Nyrulna also makes positioning really challenging because the AOE thunder damage affects friendlies. That's an alternative worth considering. Side Note: You can get BOOOAL's favour without sacrificing anyone by first pickpocketing the sickle he usually gives you, vids for it are on youtube.
- At the Sword Bard's level 12, I would pick up Command instead of Hunger of Hadar. Command can also be bonus action cast with band of the mystic scoundrel, and it has a few key advantages over the other control spells: It can be upcast and it can target selectively, meaning within the first turn you can usually already shut down ANY and ALL threatening enemies for the rest of the battle, lest they have legendary resistance of course.
- For our Light Cleric, instead of gaining the Devotee's Mace, I would stick with Phalar Aluve. This is because Phalar's effects are incredible, and also because the lack of proficiency on Shadowheart with this build is irrelevant (since we don't make melee attacks). Additionally, it synergises nicely with her spells, all the AOE of course and scorching ray in particular. But most of all, since we will want to equip items that apply radiant orb like the luminous gloves, coruscation ring and callous glow ring, there's no room left for the items that make healing viable.
- Having only piercing damage for weapon damage can be a big drawback, particularly in the Shadow Cursed Shambling Mound fight (It has piercing immunity).
- Warding Bond is an INCREDIBLE spell to cast on our Abjuration Tank Gale, giving him resistance to all damage and thus reducing the damage he actually takes to pretty much 0, which then also ends up not hurting the one to cast Warding Bond whatsoever. Recall that you can get Warding bond for free with the two rings at the House of Healing (True Love's Caress, True Love's Embrace).
- Summons do a lot of work in wiping out adds like the Necromites in the Apostle of Myrkul fight, somewhat making up for the lack of offence.
- I don't think it was explicitly mentioned in the video, but the abjuration tank wizard Gale deals a lot more damage when applying Chilled with the Mourning Frost first or giving enemies the Wet condition, so it makes sense to commit to cold damage and go for summons like ice mephits, water elemental, etc.
I hope everyone's runs are going as well as mine is right now. Cheers.
Final Edit to this comment (and definitely the MOST IMPORTANT one): I have beaten honor mode, hooray!
I have had two close calls towards the end of the game:
- The Wyrm below Wyrm's Rock nearly wiped me, but this was mostly due to my own bad play, as I didn't realise I was wet for most of the fight. Also, Warding Bond in this particular fight is a detriment.
- The Will of the Netherbrain: Once inside the Netherbrain's psyche, I had to make a shocking discovery. THROWING WEAPONS DO NOT WORK ON THE WILL OF THE NETHERBRAIN. In fact, not only can throwing weapons not make contact with the Netherbrain, but they even fall all the way into the void. This immediately deleted Nyrulna from the fight and disarmed Lae'zel - a disaster in honor mode where every final turn counts. Secondly, The party's dependency on piercing damage came back to bite me once again, due to the Aegis of the Absolute, basically only allowing me to make meaningful attacks every other turn.This also applies to the light cleric somewhat, who pretty much only has mass light and fire damage, both of which are usually dealt together. I'd actually recommend to respec the eldritch knight thrower into a pure damage melee character just for the final fight, a paladin perhaps for the versatile burst damage from smites. I'd also advise to bring scrolls of high damage dealing spells in order to get around the Aegis of the Absolute.
Overall, the party carried itself really well through most of the game, though once you start unlocking Globe of Invulnerability the defensive aspects of the builds feels pretty redundant, as Globe becomes the de facto meta approach to defence in every difficult fight.. I would have much rather had more offence and mass damage towards the end of the game, so I stick by my earlier recommendation to respec the Abjuration Tank into a sorcerer.
In total I beat every Legendary Action boss (except for Mastic Carrion) in my playthrough and did most core quests as well - Total playtime around 85 hours. Golden dice acquired! Thanks Cepha.
With that, I wish everyone good luck.
SAME! I just finished Tactician and am ready to try Honour mode.. and this is such perfect timing my gosh!!! Thank you @cephalopocalypse !
EDIT: Got my golden dice :D
@@athyteeGood luck buddy!
@@cyberceel thank you! I hope yours goes well, too! let's get that gold die!
I'm here because I fell into a darkness/tavern brawler built party and it's too easy LOL
Thanks very much - good luck with the run!
I truly have been waiting for this video for a while now. All of your builds are wonderful, and I apprecaite all the work you put into it! Keep doing what you love, please.
Can't get tired of listening to your builds/guides as podcasts lol keep em coming
Thanks very much! I really appreciate the kind words - more every day!
Yah so you don't waste valuable gaming time, it's better to learn this stuff on the way to or coming home from work 😂
Great video. Really helped connect the dots on your other build videos into how to build a full party comp for me. Thanks! Please do more of these.
your videos are the first ive ever felt like giving a like, high quality and always handy to come back to, your voice is reassuring and your channel is amazing!
Thank you so much for putting this together. It is very much appreciated. I expect this will get a good number of views for the channel. Suggest more complimentary builds coming together though it might be tricky beating this group for fun.
I found your videos a number of days ago. I enjoy your content and analysis on making the game fun, and not boring, with "I will help you make the game trivial" content. Keep it up, and always have fun with your videos.
Thanks! Yeah, I personally find the builds that remove all the gameplay pretty boring, so I prefer not to cover them - this game is large enough that the devs can't possibly cover every corner case, so we as players need to meet them partway to have fun with the game
Thank you for the great content!
Your BG3 Build videos are the best of all I have seen so far and an inspiration for many more playthroughs
Thanks very much for the support! Glad you're enjoying the videos - I figure if people are inspired by the builds then something is going right! :D
i stumbled across your Ranger build and i had a BLAST playing it, so much i gave up on my run and restarted. Subbed. these builds are so well put together thank you for sharing!
I got my honor mode dice today and I feel like I owe a big part of it to you. I actually didn’t use any of your builds even though they are super great, but your videos inspired me, and gave me the knowledge, to create my own builds that lead me to beating it.
I had plans to start my first ever honour mode run days before this video got released. What a beautiful gift
I have just completed it with an immense amount of success. This is the safest and most powerful set up i have ever used.
Thank you for sharing your amazing talent and ideas with us. I owe my golden dice in part to you my friend
I ran a gloom assasin, throw barb thief fighter, light cleric and wizard in honor mode. It's really about being as strong as possible at all levels as well as only using ranged characters and using summons to be your front line punching bags. Shovel early on is great, conjure minor elemental ice mephits, then onto conjure elementals, myrmidons and devas. Always put your expendable summons up front and attack from the rear and you'll survive honor mode a lot easier. I had a camp eldritch fighter to bind the thrown weapons and used strength elixirs on both the ranger with titan bow and the throw barb at all times. Scrolls are great when you run out of spell slots to avoid long resting. With careful planning you should absolutely get the awakened illithid power that lets you use black hole as a bonus option. Changes the late game significantly.
Don't you kind of need your light cleric within melee range to stack those radiating orbs though?
@@AxeTheSingaporean Luminous armor and other gear stacks orb from fireball or guiding bolt.
Very nice build video as always. Thanks for all the effort. Your catalog of builds has been a great resource.
I love your videos! I’m new to turn-based RPG games & never played DnD before playing BG3 so I walked into the game clueless as to what to expect. Now I’m on my second run in balanced mode, finding the game a bit easier and looking for a challenge, so I’m thinking of jumping straight to honor mode after this and following your party guide. I love how well you explain everything, it’s easy to understand, and how there’s not many “required items” for this party - one thing I HATE is trying to follow build guides and keep track of every single item I absolutely must have in order to complete the build. Thanks again for the work you put in to make guides like this!
Absolutely love this video, and would love themed party builds!
been looking everywhere for a Team Comp guide and yours exceeded expectations!
Great video as usual! Very excited to see more of your full party recommendations
I destroyed Honor mode on my first attempt. It was actually quit easy to do.
My main party was Sorcadin, Bardadin, Light Cleric and Evocation Wizard.
In reserve for particular fights, I had an Eldritch Machine Gun Warlock, a TB OH Monk, and a pure flex Rogue/Thief Duergar.
Now here's a little something that's going to make all your playthroughs INCLUDING Honor mode a breeze, if your Tav isn't a Duergar let me introduce you to Kree, the best goddamn hiriling from Withers...
At level 5 Kree comes online. Her racial ability to go invisible all Duergar get at level 5. It's once per BATTLE, not long or short rest. And it's infinite once activated until broken.
Spec Kree into a Rogue with the Thief subclass. Give her as much Dex as possible with the rest in Strength and Con.
Now if she's level 5, the fun can begin. Equip items like the gloves of thieving, graceful cloth, smugglers ring, shapeshifters boon ring, shapeshifters helmet, cloak of cunning brume, etc. Not everything listed here is required, just optimal stuff. Honestly the only thing really needed is the gloves of thieving for advantage of Sleight of Hand checks.
Now go to any vendor or anyone you want to steal from, go invisible with the Duergar racial ability. Sneak, and pickpocket anything you want/can.
Now here's what's so amazing about this build... Even on honor mode if you get caught and combat starts you're perfectly safe. Especially if you have the Alert feat too. Just go invisible and use cunning action Dash to run away from the spot you went invisible at. You can even dash twice if you need to. The enemies will go to the spot you went invisible, look around and use Detect Presence. They can't find you and combat will end immediately.
Rinse and Repeat until you get everything you want. You can do this with partial rests to reset vendors. Want infinite Gold, potions, items, camp supplies etc? This is how you do it. Hands down the BEST thief in the game.
This ISN'T a glitch, not an exploit or anything of the sort. This is 100% proper gamer play mechanics and item utilization to create the perfect thief. I cannot explain how unbelievably powerful this build is to use on an Honor mode playthrough when everything costs a fortune and item like potions, elixirs and scrolls are unbelievably powerful in their own rights.
FURTHERMORE! Kree can be multiclassed into Bard/Wizard to learn the Shatter spell. This makes her a Scrying Eye Assassin. You can literally waltz around Moonrise shattering all the eyes in less than 10 minutes and never get caught. Just food for thought if you're struggling with that.
So in closing strong main party synergy is excellent. And Honor mode isn't anywhere near as difficult as people make it out to be. But I highly recommend you go say hello to Kree at Withers and she will become a irreplaceable member of your camp/party for all foreseeable playthroughs.
I know, but making the game too easy is the opposite of what honour mode is trying to achieve LOL
@@kittydaddy2023 I wouldn't call it making it too easy, as much as making quality of life easier on you. Sure you can go buy whatever you want and impose as many self challenges as needed, but honestly that's personal preference.
From a gameplay perspective, I found it to be incredibly easy. Even post patch 6 Myrkul was a breeze. House of Hope? Not even remotely difficult. With proper positioning and game mechanics understanding, Honor mode was significantly easier than I anticipated. If I'm being completely honest, I was actually rather disappointed with how easy it was, especially after all the hype of people losing multiple runs.
Even without stealing everything, just normal playthrough, honor mode is rather easy. The power of just the Bardadin alone is unreal. Combined with multiple meta builds, it's a walk in the park.
@@d.b.hemlock Any optimized party will crush Honor Mode pretty easily. Considering people can solo it with various builds, it's an obvious conclusion that if you put 4 of those together the game won't be very hard. My honor mode was 4 bards, and anyone else that I swapped for quest reason I made bard also. Had a bardadin, a range swords bard, and 2 pure lore bards. It wasn't challenging in the least, Myrkul or any Act 3 fight was a breeze (closest was Cazador cause I brought Astarion and walked in his aura by mistake on T1 so I started the fight with only 2 party members up. Was still easy after 2 turns). Once you understand the game mechanics well and learn how ridiculously good some spells are in some situation (like Globe of Invulnerability vs Ansur) it's an easy game because all the fights are predetermined, there's very little randomness. But that's what's also good about it, it's NOT easy on a first run when you don't understand it well and don't know what to expect, and if you want it harder you can always do self-imposed challenges.
@@d.b.hemlock I've seen a lot of runs end by getting pushed into a pit. I lost on the elder brain when a platform disappeared. I would not fault someone for pulling out all the stops on a later attempt because that's what I'm doing. I self-impose "helping traders pack" when i know I'm killing them. That's usually enough to get enough money without looting every single stupid crate and body.
Use of respecs and hirelings is ENORMOUSLY underestimated and under utilized.
Stop worrying about having buff spells on party members. Have 2 clerics and s bard hireling speccex to keep you buffed with inspiration for important rolls, longstrider, death Ward eard, prot from poison, freedom of movement, etc
Great video. Thanks. Already has me thinking about other combinations. Would love to see more of these videos 👍
Dude... Battles that I struggled with in Tactician now go easy and fun in Honour Mode with your build. Had to tweak it a bit since I was already a bit into act 1 when I saw your video and using Karlach as my main character (Turned her into the Bard), but it's working beautifully. Thanks for the hard work and excelent content mate!
One of the best video's on this game! So much extra information, thanks!
was waiting for this thank you! Will definitely use this when I finish my tactician playthrough
This was absolutely gorgeous. It's not difficult for a new player to build parties based on all your previous quality content and other creators, but to free out all the item combination is so amazing. The only thing that might be even slightly annoying is lack of immunity to slip surfaces such as ice since this build seems like it would love to have everything frozen.
Glad to hear that you plan on continuing with Baldur's Gate 3 videos, even though there are newer games out there.
New games have came out since bg3? Those poor games
YES! I’ve been so excited for the Ceph party vids
Thank you for the video! I am one of those who want the challange in honour mode but still play the game "the normal way". So thank you for helping me out with some very nice looking builts :D
Man i love your content and been waiting for a title like this to drop for quite a time
big thanks
Thanks very much!
As I’m approaching the end of my first run I’ve been working on planning an Honour Mode run to get my golden dice. Love all your build videos, and I’ve just been thinking of how much I’d like to see a full party comp from you.
I’d love to see a full party comp centered around the Wet condition (what I was thinking of using to abuse that busted Wizard build). I’d also LOVE to see you do a build for the Jack-of-all-Trades trophy (multiclass into every class without ever respecing). I bet you could come up with something fun for that.
Love the full party vids!
Currently using this build on Tactician, to test it out and I'm definitely liking it so far! After finishing tactician, I'll start the Honor Mode with these
omg I just started Honor mode and was looking into the party compositions to get! IMPECABLE TIMING
This is the build that did it for me! Perfect.
I'm chomping through honor mode with this party. Just breezed my way through act 2.
Absolutely insane that I just started an honor run and was thinking what to do, thanks for the recommendation!
Best of luck my friend !
Yes! Finally! Party Build Guides! 💪🙌🤜🤛
Thank you for your awesome videos, especially this one! I just finished HM with this party! Was my second try. First one ended on the Tolcollector because i forgot to send my gold to camp and i had a lot😂. Next run is gonna be based on your latest party video
I got absolutely blindsided by a wipe a couple days ago (fight started with a normal ass wolf one-shotting my throwzerker MC in the creche and the leader finishing him off with no death saving throws...) so this is a nice video to encourage me to try again haha...
Although I don't necessarily need the builds, it's good to be reminded of all of the ways to mitigate what happened to me, which you highlight thoroughly!
The only channel you need for bg3 builds.! Great content friend.
Thanks so much!
My main honour party is Gloomstalker Assassin with 3 wizards, one wizard has a level in knowledge cleric. One of the wizards is a Necromancer, so lots of summons. Very solid party, more so than I initially would have thought. Great, informative vid, thx for sharing! Cheers ! !
Very informative, I will use this for my honor mode run.
Like the new format for party builds !
Great content! running a similar party but evil, thematic, not rest reliant, enjoying darkness & piercing vulnerability: Gale as Tav, Warlock 2 / Abjuration with Bhaalist armor; Laezel throwing EK with spear of evening; Minthara Pal 2 / Sword bard for control & nova; Shadowheart Gloomstalker 5 / Trickery cleric with archery. Piercing darkness party.
Amazing work!
Great content as ever!
I'd love to see your take on an honour mode party that doesn't abuse broken game mechanics/classes (wet, TB, Swords bard, abj wiz etc.)
Just beat Honour Mode (and the game itself, lol!), both for the very first time! While I didn't end up running this party comp to completion, I ran it as my party comp for my first HM attempt, where I got all the way to Avatar of Myrkul before I decided to procrastinate doing that fight by rerolling a new campaign (which is the one that I actually used to beat HM.)
What I appreciated about this team, though, was that it was a very safe way to learn HM and to develop my own confidence in my ability to do it. I highly endorse it as a team for people who want to learn the mode!
And also, just a big thanks to you, ceph. Not just for this team, but because I've learned so much about team building from you. I didn't use any of your builds to actually beat HM, but I used everything I've learned from watching your build guides to build out an effective team of my own.
Now, on to a replay where I intentionally power down my team!
Hey thanks so much for the support! I really appreciate it and I'm really glad you liked the comp! That's exactly what I'd hope for - always want people to use these as a jumping off point to make what you find most fun. Congrats on the win!
I did just want to check with you though - on my end it looks like this comment double posted. I don't know if that means the donation accidentally went twice as well, but if so please email me and I'll do my best to get the extra back to you!
More party comp videos please! Already got me thinking of new runs
Fantastic video! Just wanted to share for the bard build, that 10 Swords bard/1 fighter/1 wizard lets you focus more on control and reach level 6 spells without sacrificing too much martial damage. Its a great option for those that really want those high level spells.
Thanks for the party build video. I just restarted my Honor Mode run because I used Charm Scroll in a dialog advantage. And Kagha didnt like that and she decided to wipe the other group off the face of the earth and now everyone thinks I did it... was a little too scuffed.
Always looking for builds. I am maining a Drow Bard and everyone hates me but then i win them over with a tune. Loving Swords Bard so far.
thanks for the builds :)
Lots of great build options in this game. I'll try all of these.
When I try honor mode, this is what I will try. Again, the content continues to be top notch!
Yes! The video I was looking for
First of all, loved party composition as a video idea. These are the things most interesting to me in bg3 "combat".
I don't expect this to be popular, but I love unusual, kirky, outside of the box stuff. It can't be just bad, but it need not be honor mode aproved
Your build guides are my reason for living
I love the idea of Laezel just being like, “Fine, I’ll do *everything* and carry the rest of you through this whole misadventure.” Totally seems in line with her character.
This was great, some more party build guides atound themes would be awesome like summoner party, wet, piercing etc
Fun quirk i figured out with Guardian of Faith, if you put Survival Instinct on it, the Illithid Power you get from Omeluum, it sticks around at 0 Hp for the duration of the power.
imagine my suprise when your bard build is EXACTLY the one I was making for myself lol good to know it's going to be worth it
My number one takeaway: it seems like True Strike is a must-have on every character that can run it.
Exactly!
Great team! Would love to see this team in action
Wow I'm surprised there are no rogues in this. Your "the best archer" power build is completely insane but i suppose a sword bard can do anything from lockpicking to burst damage.
Also absolutely love the team building guides. Any of your builds work well together anyway, but sometimes people wonder about itemization or shared spells.
I really enjoy playing this party. (Almost , stat split different because not playing in HM) . You don’t abuse of multiclassing and I like it. Each character have its fighting style identity and the whole cover each ability and skill. Eventually it works very well.
I always think its time to get into this game and then I watch a build video.
Full party builds are great!
I’d love to see your take on a party of Darkness abusers.
Great video! Would be cool to see you include some small fights/gameplay examples with these videos to really showcase how the party composition functions in game ❤
Would have like to seen this as well as I was playing through and half the fights early fights they ignored my mage tank n went for my bard
Thanks for the videos
I'm loving your videos❤!! Was wondering if there is any app/planner to experiment different builds without manually creating it in game?
I always romance ascended astarion as durge in honour mode. If you rush cazador in act 3, then have Astarion turn you into a vampire spawn, your durge can get +1 to all attack rolls from the bite ability.
For the bard, I like running 2/10 paladin/bard with natural 22 str with the araj potion since it offers counterspell and a ton of lv4+ smites.
One build i've been experimenting with recently is the 2/4/6 warlock/champion/sorc eldritch blast build on a halfling. You can hide in greater invisibility and spam eldritch blast outside of combat. Each volley does 200+ damage with risky ring, and it makes everything ridiculous easy.
This is VERY close to the comp I used and yeah overall really solid and can handle any type of encounter.. For the Light Cleric I like 1 Storm Sorcerer then 11 Light Cleric that gives Constitution saving throws, ability to use Fly as bonus action, Shield, and Arcane Misslies so I think it's worth giving up a feat for all that. In my comp I kind of combined the Eldrich Knight and the Abjuration Wizard so I had room for 1 more character which early to mid game was usually a Gloomstalker but latter was more commonly and Open Hand monk. My party tends to be somewhat dynamic though but those were the most consitent members.
Interesting point of order: if you enjoy playing with Minthara in your squad, her soul branding ability actually synergizes beautifully with this Laezel throw build. For whatever reason the damage bonus doesn’t expire on a thrown attack so you basically get free extra fire damage for three turns with no spell slots spent. Plus a good use of a bonus action if needed.
Anyway, thanks for this team! I’m running it right now and have made it safely through Act 1 of my first Honour Mode run with barely any close calls (only one, which was my own fault for attempting to cheese the grymforge fight. Let’s just say Druid hirelings were harmed in the making of THAT particular production and leave it at that 😅).
very impressive. good reasoning. I will sub to you.
I see a lot of build videos online recommending the Alert feat. It's good for people that don't know the mechanics or that haven't played the game much. As a more experienced player I find that it doesn't really come up that often.
For the most part, unless you are suprised or it is a set encounter, you can nearly always go first anyways. Even for the other fights, with a decent dex score, you aren't likely to lose initiative all that often anyways. There's also potions for the same effect if you really want it.
The optimal Party. One of my fav topics in all party based games. 10/10 ty!
After losing another honor mode today I'll try your build, will probably run the swords bard as the Astarion origin so I can be the face.
Nice group. I have a similar one in my Custom mode run with modded difficulty. I principally refuse to take the Tavern Brawler feat, so I don't use a thrower but have a Warlock/Bard as my main, then Gale (Abjuration), Shadowheart and Astarion. Astarion is a Sword Bard 8/ Rogue-Thief 4 with hand crossbows which I found stronger than other mixes (and better fitting to Astarion). As my enemies have higher stats than in Honour mode, hitting generally is difficult; I solved this problem for Astarion with the use of the Gloves of the Automaton. Maybe also an option for Honour mode. Sometimes only Magic Missiles are able to hit reliably, so I made Gale also strong with them. I found that it is best to apply Radiance Orb with them too, it's much faster this way than done by Shadowheart.
I love team builds. Some fun theme builds like short rest teams, or elemental themes would be awsome. I am having a hard time justifying a druid so a team comp using a druid would be enjoyable.
I cheered when he finally picked up Hunger of Hadar near the end of the video.
Thanks for making a guide that treats the game as a four party squad game and not a solo game!
Your comp looks like my first playthrough but with Karlach instead of Lae'zel.
I've been using Karlach for your EK thrower build, and there have been enough encounters where using one of the tiefling smites served me well. It seems about as good as one extra misty step per day from githyanki or extra movement speed from wood elf (don't really need it that much when you're ranged).
"Or this is a good spot to fit in true strike" 🤣
Amazing video, thank you!
Do you have a build for gear in each arc?
What's really funny is that this is basically the exact party that I came up with when I was building a dummy proof honor mode party for me and my husband. Cheers to that! 😂
Nice party comp, i played the wizard tank in my last playthrough. Unfortunately enemys always avoiding to attack this character and instead focusing on the other party members.
But i‘ve to admit that this character is not even close to be killed
The most ambitious crossover of all Cephalopocalypse’s
One set of build guides id love to see is party face guides for origin characters that aren’t Wyll or Astarion - I.e, characters that don’t easily slot into a charisma class. Currently I’m doing an Origin Lae’zel run as a draconic sorcerer which takes…quite a few liberties with her base lore to compensate. One of the main reasons to do an origin run imo is to see the unique dialogue options and interactions so you want them to be the party face as much as possible (at least that’s how I see it), and I think it’d be cool to try and find appropriate fits for Shadowheart origin and Gale origin (of course they do have their advantages being able to use wisdom and intelligence for other checks, id be interested to see some alternative options)
Honestly, you can use any of my charisma class builds for those characters. You can use any build for any character, so if you want a singing and dancing bard shadowheart there's nothing stopping you!
@@Cephalopocalypse oh sure, but if there's a secret clever way of doing something that fits more in line with them, then I'd love to see it haha
Here's the trick to honor mode... Globe of invulnerability . Stick and move. Always keep one companion at s range they can dive in and engage OR duck out to camp if needed UNTIL you get access to globe of invulnerability scrolls. Then, play however you want. Love tap things to death, doesn't matter. You can't die, be silenced, debuffed etc. Any enemies that enter the globe, pick up and throw out. Need more scrolls? Long rest or level s hireling a single level and every vendor is refreshed.
If you're dying to bosses like Grym, it's your own fault. You never need to even ve standing on the firge platform area during the flight. Just bomb him from above on the staircase, etc.
It's less about special "builds" imo and more about understanding the methods of guaranteed survival to defeat honor mode.
I would really like a video detailing how to put together your own balance parties, kind of like the one video you made with the level break points for individual characters. My friends and I are going to do an honor run, but I don’t wanna constrain anybody to a specific build.
If youve done a couple of playthroughs, you can easily beat honour mode with almost every combination of characters. Knowing matchups and preparing sufficiently is everything.
In my first one I had Swords Bard/Ranger, Cleric of Life, Arcane Missile Wizard and Circle of Moon Druid.
Dont fight until level 5 and youre good.
I highly recommend everyone use the party limit begone mod on nexus mods. Since you could juggle characters at camp to give everyone aid anyway, just adding zenith and sir fuzzalump to my party and leaving camp makes it much easier to give everyone in your party buffs. Since it’s something you could already do anyway, this just makes camp casters so much more convenient
Exactly what I'm looking for. Everyrhing in one place
Great vid! I noticed you mentioned something about your wizard being your scroll user because they’re intelligence based. I’m not sure what you meant here though because as far as I know scrolls use your characters spell casting mod
Yes. More videos like this one
I love your builds so much! Buuuuut I just started a playthrough with some friends as the Durge and wanted to be an Oathbreaker Paladin for an evil playthrough. My friends are kinda squishy and I wanted to be there evil little tank. I couldn't find a video of yours specifically going over any combo of Evil Durge or Oathbreaker Paladin to go off of. You think you could help me and maybe some other interested evil people out? Every other build I've watched is so uneven and doesn't make the most of the stats the way you do and rely too much on potions, Ethel's hair, etc.
Can confirm this team does make honour mode very easy! Only a few fights in the game were actually at all worrying and of those fights, only two of them were mandatory.
One suggestion for the eldritch knight is that Disguise Self is a pretty useful spell to have given one of the weapons you have guaranteed access to in act 3 is the Dwarven Thrower so you can get the bonus from that weapon regadless of the character's actual race. Nyrulna is great but if you don't want to do AoE damage for whatever reasons (your characters are nearby, friendly NPCs are nearby, etc), having both lets you have the second best-in-slot option. It also gives you bludgeoning damage if piercing isn't what you want at the time.
I honestly have so much respect for BG3 content creators, y’all are so nice and good at keeping it spoiler free even now! I’m buying the game in a few days and definitely appreciate it. Great video
Another idea for an OP control/support character is 1 Cleric (light)/ 1 Wizard/ 10 Bard (lore). With 10 Bard (lore) you will have 4 spells from Magical Secrets including Hunger of Hadar. 1 Light Cleric+shield+Yuan-ti armour will give you a lot of AC. 1 dip into Wizard make your character have 12 caster levels which means that you can learn any spell tomes including Globe of Invulnerability, better Magic Missiles (i forget its actual name). Whenever I wanna play safe in my Honour runs I'll build Shadowheart like this.
Hey Ceph, I had a question I was hoping you could answer:
I was thinking of a rogue build that’s actually worth going 12 levels into, and I found out that rogues can sneak attack with opportunity attacks. So I wanted to make a tank rogue build where you take sentinel to get advantage on all opportunity attacks for sneak attacks, then take polearm master with the dancing breeze glaive (which is the only polearm in the game that’s finesse, so you can sneak attack with it). This would allow you in theory to constantly opportunity attack and apply sneak attack damage to any enemies who comes into you range or hits an adjacent ally, then on your turn, you can also sneak attack on your action.
The only problem with this theory is that I saw mixed responses online on whether you can use sneak attack multiple times a turn or not, whether it’s an action or an opportunity attack. If you knew the answer to this question, I’d really appreciate the feedback!
Love the combinations 😊..Can you make an honor mode evil party as well?
For the bard magical secret you should absolutely take Command. Non concentration control spell that works with band of the mystic scoundrel and can shut down up to 5 ennemies is insane value, and it will work on everything, absolute banger
Definitely a great option! My reasoning behind skipping it here is just that we already have tons of control (and command on the cleric), so I wanted Hunger to add a new tactical option for the character - blind is really powerful in some late game fights. Either way will be strong though
First thing first, thanks a lot for the greatest content serie on BG3, your work is very much appreciated ! I watched every videos about class and multiclassing.
I'm a little afraid for my first honor mode and thought of a party like :
Tav gloom 5 assassin 3 war 4. Not the greatest party face until rogue level right ? Is it worth it to take a rogue lvl early to have those skills expertise in persuasion, or should I rush gloom 5 for the extra attack ?
The others members would be a warrior, an open hand Monk and a draconic Sorcerer. Any advice would be welcome ❤
Thanks! That party sounds great to me. How much you want the dialogue skills early is really up to you and how much you care about passing dialogue checks. You can easily beat the game without succeeding a single charisma skill check, so it's not mandatory - you can also respec if you find you're not using the skills that much. Personally I'd start with the rogue level because I like skills, but I don't think it will be a huge difference either way
@@Cephalopocalypse The run ended already, lost to the goblin group at the mill :(
Party was lvl 3, already respec
Hey! Love your vids! Could you make a vid of the same type but with a complete dark/evil theme? Like partyface succubus (bard/warlock), rogue/archer, dark cleric, deathknight? Im thinking of shadowheart, astarion, lae'zel/minthara? Im palying a good themed run cause its my first, next i want to do a pure evil dark urge run with death and darkness themed characters with fitting abilities and combat with much fear an all. 👀