How To Secure Your Liberty Safe Lock | A1 EDU
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- How To Secure Your Liberty Safe Lock | A1 EDU
In this video, Robert explains to Liberty Safe owners how to change their lock codes and what other options they have it they wish to opt out of the combination retrieval program, Is it still under warranty? What about fire damage? We'll cover that and more in this video Please your questions in the comment section below.
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If you request an opt-out on the super code, what keeps Liberty from keeping a list of those people and giving it to the Fed as Suspicion activity
Personally, because I’ve never seen them have an issue with it in the past, many customers have brought it up in the past. They announced they’ve changed their in-house policies specifically in junction to working with law enforcement, which will require a subpoena with Liberty being named in the document from a court. The number one call that the customer service department at Liberty receives every single day is “I lost my combo”, so they’re aware with the recent news more people may request the opt out. They have never had an issue deleting anyone’s information, ever. This is nothing new in the industry. Several thousands of customers do not have their safe registered or does Liberty have their lock information. Deleting the lock information is a push of a button and they’re happy to do it. Always have been. Like I talk about in the video if there’s any concerns in that regard then there are multiple other options you can use. If you have a keypad lock then you can buy another one for $185.99 and do a hard reset yourself at home to wipe it of Liberty’s super code.
@@A1LocksmithofTexastoo little too late. Plus they still donate to members of the anti gun party.
@@electromechanicalstuff2602 Sure, my job as a locksmith is to educate and help people. What type of safe are you looking for? I have videos online about Browning ProSteel and American Security Products, also.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas and you did a good job at that. I want a safe not a residential security container or whatever the UL list them as. Metal cement and metal. I'm pretty sure American security is the only one who still offers that.
@@electromechanicalstuff2602 Hey, thanks for that. Long and short you want a TL rated safe. Browning ProSteel makes a TL-30 with their very modular interior. I should do a video on one, actually. Also, yes, American Security Products makes several TL rated safes, they just don’t have gun interiors.
Thank you for putting this info out. I am also a locksmith, and definitely advise any safe owner to have their combination, or code changed as soon as possible after purchase. Especially if they want to be the only one that can access their safe, other than a certified locksmith/safe technician.
Thanks for watching! We’re just trying to educate folks on the channel. Appreciate you chiming in. What part of the country?
Educational video straight to the point.
Thanks for answering some things I was wondering about.
Thanks for watching. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Great info and video Robert!
I really appreciate you watching and saying that.
I manual reset my SecuRam toplit myself. It is easy to do. There is a securam video online showing how it is done. I got my safe from A1 here in Dallas. I registered mine with Liberty with the expectation that it is private. Thanks for the video.
Excellent, Jeremy at SecuRam does a great job. He actually trained me on their locks. I’ll probably make a video, too. If you have any question please let me know.
If there is a video online to reset the keypad combo, how does that stop somebody from resetting other people's safe, and then taking what's inside.
Thanks for putting this info out so fast.
I hope it helps. Thanks for watching.
The mad lad actually made a follow-up video!
Thanks for the comment. Let me know if you have any lock or safe questions I can help with.
Solid video bro. Thanks
Thanks for watching.
Just bought a old 1920 Mosler. Old school Dial 🇺🇸
Make sure you leave it in your space for 1-2 weeks while it adapts to your environment. Then stuff it with some sort of dehumidifiers. The older they get the more they’ve shown to leak moisture which can rust weapons/optics or grow mold in papers.
Thank You
Thanks for watching!
Apart from management of the internal reset or management codes by deleting are there any electronic safe locks that cannot be opened by the little black box? It looks like a little black box will open almost any electronic lock today. Is there something I can put on that it will not open? Ultimately if I lock my safe, it's because I don't want it to be opened ever. Unless someone obviously has the combination. So can you recommend an electronic lock that is not able to be opened by the LBB? Thank you for the video! And by the way, I think removing serial numbers from the safe and the lock is a great idea for security.
Thanks for watching! Sometimes people hear that then think they’re at risk and nothing is safe, but it’s just not true. Tools are often developed by/for specialty trades everyday to make said trades faster/more efficient. Ultimately most trades folks won’t even buy some of these tools because me they’re so expensive and they won’t make their money back. As a locksmith I do own products that make what I do much easier for me and faster for my customers. I may spend thousands of dollars on a key programmer that can’t program 3 keys that come into my shop a week and that’s deflating for me. Haha, “I spent all this money and it won’t even work?!”. I’ve used a black box that couldn’t open several different locks, I don’t think anyone has one that works on SecuRam products that I’m aware of. I tell everyone the same every time, if you’re remotely concerned about that then use a group 2 mechanical dial. Someone is always going to be looking to make a product to use on electronics in order to sell to people in the trade. These things are almost never made (in any trade) with bad intent, it’s literally to make trades people’s jobs easier and make them more efficient. Long winded, sorry, but as you can tell in my videos I’m genuinely hoping yo answer questions/describe products thoroughly for you.
You think if a Govt agency wants into a gunsafe, that not having your combo on file will cause them any delay at all? You know that a skill saw with a plywood blade will cut the top off your safe in 2 minutes, right?
I own a Liberty safe and it has a mechanical lock. Ive already opted out. Now I want to replace the lock. Should I buy a mech lock then hire a locksmith? Or let the locksmith do everything? If I should buy it on my own? Who would I buy it from? Thanks from Seattle
Opting out is a way that it’ll be gone forever and you spend no dollars. Seriously. However, call a locksmith and let them change to combination to a new number (meaning keep the lock) and this is the least expensive option to assure it’s changed. Locksmith is the way to go if you want a new lock/combination on your existing lock.
If I have a mechanical lock on my Liberty safe, how much could I expect it to cost to replace it with an electronic lock in Collin County?
About $300 roughly - call Robert (me) when you’re ready
Why buy a gun safe from a company who donates thousands of dollars to the anti-gun movement in the first place?
Anti 2 A. gun = Democrat!
Exactly
It wasn't a anti-gun company when I bought mine. I'll throw it out if you buy me another safe from another company.
@@user-lm5jq7uy4e the fire ratings comes from drywall that has chemicals that corrodes your guns... toss it because of that too. So after bud light went woke u drake the beer u already had? They make cheap safes anyways. Build a vault room for same price as a high end safe
Before they sold out to their current owners, I don't believe they were anti-gun.
Could you swap out a digital lock for a digital lock and be done with them knowing any codes? Or, one brand for another? For example, an S&G lock for a Securam?
Oh yeah, a new lock and it’s over. I’ve got ‘em on my site. You could even request the locks super code and it’ll come wiped out with instructions how to program your own super code and user code.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas When a locksmith installs a different digital lock, does he keep a record of the supercode and and safe's serial number and does he transmit the owner's name and address to the lock and/or safe manufacturer?
@@munsters2 Locksmiths are rarely ever going to record any combination information. In our minds….we don’t needs keys or codes to get into things. A locksmith is likely to change a super code becsuse leaving a SecuRam on 1-1-1-1-1-1 is a terrible idea, but they probably wouldn’t record it. As a very large safe dealer, if we do anything like a lock swap we tell our customers “make sure you notify your safe manufacturer of any changes, so they’ll still warranty it”. However, in the case of us changing a lock you’ve probably already lost manufacturer’s warranty anyway. Long explanation, but I want you or anyone else reading my replies to be educated. And obviously you can request the super code, so you can set it yourself. If you have a Liberty safe with a TopLit or BackLit just email/call them to get the super code. Thanks for watching.
Would an option be to upgrade your existing digital lock to a better one? Meaning Liberty once opted out or even if they still had info would have the wrong lock info for your safe?
Upgrade the lock and not register it, yes. I’m hoping I understood that right. What lock do you have, now?
@A1LocksmithofTexas I have 2 liberty safes, so one safe has the SG lock you said that couldn't be master reset, and then I have the one you said have to pull the panel off and press the reset button.
My hope was that I could just upgrade the one that couldn't be master reset to another model of electronic. I like the fast entry. I do have other safes with turn style mechanical, but nothing beats that easy press and light up of buttons.
Is there an electronic one you recommend as the best to upgrade to besides just saying mechanical upgrade by chance?
@@TheBizcuit0426 Yeah absolutely, if you already have a SecuRam lock on one of your safes I would absolutely replace the S&G with one, too. The reason they moved to SecuRam in 2018 is because the reliability in the research is proven. With more and more SecuRam locks on the market we as a locksmith company are drilling less safes. The BackLit for the money is a solid option. Again, it can cleared of any factory super codes, just as long as you know if there’s ever an issue it’s going to cost you outta pocket. I think I’m gonna make another video, there is no “master code that opens every single keypad” they come with a unique super code that helps locksmiths/customer service reps troubleshoot the lock to avoid drilling. The reliability we have seen in SecuRam keypads has been great. You’re right, the convenience of a keypad is great. I say it a lot, but always use copper top Duracell alkaline batteries, they just work better in safe keypads.
So you have your combination removed from Liberty’s database. What would stop the Fed’s from removing the keypad and getting the serial number of the lock and contacting the manufacturer of the lock and obtaining the combination that way?
The way I see it is to buy a manual (dial) lock and having the combination set to what you want it to be.
Valid point.
Ever try opening a dial lock under stress?
@@aneyesky it’s almost always stressful….drug bust for the police, someone’s will is needed, someone needs a their social for the interview that day, someone needs their passport for a flight their about to leave for. Haha
@@aneyesky maybe that should be part of your ongoing training is to train to unlock your safe under stress. Plus, electronic locks are easier to bypass for locksmiths and other Govt agencies. Manual locks are harder to pick depending on which one you get and are willing to spend.
My safe has an S&G lock. Can I replace the lock with one bought from S&G? Would S&G record/report the serial number of the replacement lock?
They probably record it, but there’s really no link to you. Actually I believe they most of the time their MRC is printed on the lock body itself. You would just scratch it off. But yeah, it’s never recorded anyway verses what we’re talking about with safe manufactures. Safes has a serial number - it tells the model, size, paint, color of the hardware, what size shelves were cut, the date it was made, the lock used, the super code if needed, etc. kinda like your car’s vin number tells the manufacture all the same stuff about your vehicle. However, just buying a lock from a locksmith there’s no record of anything for example. Like when you buy after market mufflers for your car, now the car manufacture doesn’t know. I hope that makes sense.
Cabelas liberty safe has a electronic entry how hard is it to have a key lock put in its place no combo
I’ve never seen it done, it’s either keypad or mechanical lock. Is your keypad a SG?
The actual mechanical mechanism is electrically switched once a code gets through.
Can't a secret disconnect or another brand of electronic keypad be added?
The mechanical dial in my thinking seams slower and would need to be illuminated to dial the combo.
Any thoughts?
Do you mean can you swap to a different brand of lock? Yes. However, the SecuRam brand locks are some of the very best on the market.
It takes a few seconds more to enter your combination into a mechanical lock versus a keypad, yes. However, with practice is moves pretty quick. There are market options for little safe lock lights, they magnet to the safe and you place them right over the lock.
I hope I answered your questions.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas yes that answers some. I wasn't too clear... Could the electronics or the wiring be changed to effectively create a "deadman" switch?
@@kirkchapman80 I’m not gonna say no, but I have definitely never seen it before in a safe keypad.
Fwiw,
I changed mine to a MAS Hamilton lock salvaged from an old ATM.
Will a super code over ride the combination I use to open my safe? What I mean is does Liberty have a code built into my lock that will allow it to be opened without having my combination of numbers. Just using their combo to override mine. So, anyone with that code will be able to open my safe? With or without my permission. Assuming that my combination isn't on file with Liberty?
In a word, yes. Company’s like Liberty typically have a super code or a MRC to allow a locksmith to help open the safe if you lose your combination, to troubleshoot with if the lock isn’t working properly or the original owner is diseased and his power of attorney named beneficiary. Typically, Liberty safe is called upon for a users code 4,000 times a year. The number one phone call Liberty’s customer service department gets is “I’m locked out of my safe” or “I forgot my combo” , it’s generally a combination of both. However, at any time you’re a email or phone call away from being removed from said help list. Like another person commented on here said he called, they gave him his super code, he wiped it clean.
Does this include a Cannon safe from TSC?
Pretty much any manufacture, honestly. Do you have a keypad? Does it have a name or any letters on the face of the keypad?
Does Liberty safe have a master combination number for mechanical locks?
No. And the whole story about the ABC agency, it was a mechanical lock. Now, they do set a combo to your mechanical lock at the factory and it’s tied to your serial number. If you change that combo and never report it with them then there’s no record of it. If you had it changed when it was deliver and never report it with them then there’s no record of it. If you never registered your safe after it was delivered then remove the serial number on the outside and no one knows what you have.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas Thank you for answering!
How can I get a new key for my liberty safe I lost mine safe is open
Call Liberty with your serial number and they’ll see if a local Liberty dealer can assist you.
Why can't I just buy another SG lock/key pad directly from SG? They are listed on Amazon?
Nothing says you can’t. In my experience S&G is a whole seller only, so I’d be surprised if they are they are the actual seller.
Silly question but can’t you just grind off your safes serial number so that no one can call the manufacturer to get the code for it? You can always write down the number and keep it hidden if you ever needed it but no one else could look it up.
Absolutely & I actually mention that later in the video. It’s just a sticker, peel it off and record it.
Could an RFID chip be tucked away somewhere? I don't know the answer to that. I know some pistol makers embed them in polymer frames. The technology scares me as does the casual attitude of law enforcement when they trample on our rights.
@@tomfrommichigan In the safe? Honest to god I’m extremely confident there is not. You could always get a mechanical lock to avoid any electronics.
My Liberty Safe Warranty Registration Certificate lists my name, my wife's name (as secondary) and the serial number. What stops Liberty from just looking up my name and finding a copy of my warranty registration and getting the serial number? I don't trust them not to just freely give up the backdoor combination.
@@dwayne7356exactly
I understand that every locksmith has different prices but can I get a ballpark figure on how much is the cost to replace my current liberty safe lock with a mechanical lock?
Locks are typically around $200 and the service/labor $200.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas Great thanks for the reply.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas Now if I can just fly you out to Vegas....
@@balamala2647 Haha, you going to SHOT show out there? I think our CZcams crew are discussing going next year. I can always ship you one, just need a delivery crew to install it. There’s some out there.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas Yeah I love the Shot show!
You still have to trust Liberty to delete the combo when you fill out the form. You have no proof that they did not keep a copy that they will still turn over to law enforcement.
And for anyone feeling that way it’s easy to get your lock’s super code or MRC, depending on what lock you have, so no new lock expense. If it’s a mechanical you just change the combo, no new lock expense. And worst case you need a new lock. What sort of lock do you have?
Liberty safes are made with 7 gauge steel or 3/16" thickens. The lock is just to keep the honest guy honest.
Thanks for stopping by the channel! If you have any lock questions let me know.
I would change out to a mechanical dial lock with a change key. Very suspicious of these digital locks. I personally don't like digital locks at all even for house doors. Very easy to bypass on some. In my mind technology and real security don't mix.
And I would’ve try to tell you otherwise, nothing wrong with security without wires. If it works it works.
Ashley Madison said you could expunge all records as well...hahaha
They put the sn on the purchase receipt
Someone did that for you? I don’t know that I personally have ever done that since 99% of the time I don’t have the serial number in front of me, but I’m sure it could be done.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas right, I didn't really notice the sn written on the receipt until today and I'm just getting caught up on all this Liberty stuff. I pulled the sticker off the door today, good video I learned a lot, thanks 🤙🏻
@@cosmicblackHD Right on, we appreciate that and thanks for stopping by. Please let me know if you have any questions.
I appreciate your efforts but the reality is that if any three letter agency wants what you have in your safe they'll get in one way or another. I can hear them now, "gather around boyz were gonna do some safe cracking training." It's not like they're gonna say, "well, we can't get into the safe so I guess we'll just go back to the office."
Thank you for watching and leaving your comment. I can’t argue with your logic, but many people just wanted the peace of mind of at least doing as much as possible to keep ‘em out. My job is to educate and serve my community, so I’ve laid out options to hopefully help.
@@A1LocksmithofTexas Just so you know I'm gonna watch your hard reset video now and will more than likely do the reset just to make it harder if they want to get in. Thank you brother
@@TheDidjidude If you don’t see YOUR lock hit me up. My pleasure.
Thanks for the info. Shame you have to educate people how to protect themselves from Liberty bad management.
What about their bad donations to the democratic party specifically at least 5 members who always voted for anti gun bills
You can secure one by buying a safe from their Competitors
It is completely unnecessary to delete your information from the company. If the feds get a warrant to obtain the contents of your safe, they will either take the safe from your house and open it or open it in your house. There is no need to have your combination. ANY safe can be opened
Sure, but the initial incident where Liberty Safe gave the code away was bad because the police DIDN'T have a warrant.
Ginger Billy?
Hahaha, I’ve made it so long without anyone saying that on here
@@A1LocksmithofTexas LMAO, Sorry i had to say it. I love that guy...so funny...:)
@@user-zq6pj5jo8j You know what I can’t hate, he’s funny as hell and I always have to support a ginger
I think all this is a waste of time anyway, if "they" have a warrant for your safe, they will get into it... your just going to make it harder for them to do and you will lose your safe all together in the end anyway because the safe will be destroyed in the process.
Years ago when I was looking at safes I saw digital key pads and thought that was a dumb ass idea. Years later it's a worse idea.
Haha, not a fan, huh??
🤦♂️🤣💪 How much Tannerite will the largest liberal(liberty) safe hold and, how many mile do we need to be away from it to help set it off..
Booby trap your safe no matter what brand.
Anyone else find the irony in the company name being “Liberty”. What a joke of a company. Even though I have Liberty safes, now that this has happened it is my last and I encourage other to shy from them when making safe related purchases.
I'm never buying a bud light safe sorry
I hear you, man. This video is for existing Liberty owners. I make videos to educate viewers on other brands we offer like Browning ProSteel and AMSEC, too.
I still would not ever trust them. Never again.
Have you checked out American Security or Browning ProSteel safes before? Let me know if you have any questions about those or other safes I can help with.
All this drama, if any law enforcement agency gets a warrant signed by a judge to access your safe and you don't open it, they will have it cut open and destroyed !
The point is they did it without a warrant nothing else this is not how it’s supposed to work we have laws to protect us from them not them from us!
@@gh4192yea again you're wrong. They had a specific warrant for that safe. But they didn't have a subpoena.
@@SRGAndy you’re right, fun and lame part of your modern form of information seeking. Checked out of the news for a while then checked back in played some catch up but not enough. Talked out my ass on the warrant. Still think it’s a BS business practice for a safe/lock manufacturer to keep a code for a product that that is supposed to keep valuables and identities secure as well as firearms and not just business practices but in conjunction with justice department overreach. We’re not supposed to be simply investigated until a crime is found if that was the case we would all be in jail or prison. Equal justice under the law would have all the SJW mobs that did waaaaaay more to damage our country than J6 under the same scrutiny. but if you believe finding crimes at any means necessary and unjustly searching for them in the manner that is being done… 🤷🏻♂️. If these people were held to the same standard they are trying and succeeding against J6 simply because of political reasons are worse and more dangerous than any single one of the people at the capital on J6! That is the threat to our country and even if you think everyone involved is guilty the way our government is going about it is insane and if anyone thinks it’s ok to go this far for a freaking riot that was tame compared to what we saw for 2 years straight just before this and I don’t believe you can believe in this country and it’s laws only the laws that affect those you disagree with.
@@gh4192 I'm not disagreeing with the bigger picture. You're right. And they should've said "no we need a subpoena". But yea.. 🤷
@@SRGAndy I used “you” statements didn’t mean that directly at you more at the collective I can tell you know what you’re talking about. I don’t do a lot of online communication so I don’t recognize tone doesn’t translate… appreciate the insight I had thought about replying to my original comment correcting myself when I learned more about how they went about it and that there was a warrant (even if gaining a warrant is kinda a joke in the capacity of the government) but that’s not the point I was wrong about and I realized I was pretty late on this topic so I left it till you commented. 🤙🏻
Junk safe, big pass
What happens to your safe with electronic lock if there is an EMP event? Permanent lock?
If you have one of the newer S&G or SecuRam locks (meaning the lock was manufactured after 2018 for sure) or the safe already has a EMP rating sticker on the door. There’s such thing as a military rating , MIL-STD-4615 and today’s lock have that. And otherwise a mechanical lock is 100% full proof from EMP.
yep...Have the lock changed to a mechanical locking system to make it impervious to EMP... Otherwise, you are f"d