Everything new with the Maxwell Rework | Don't Starve Together
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- Reupload because I said something really stupid in the last one
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I always thought in a Maxwell rework he should be able to skip a magic tier the same way Wickerbottom skips a science tier. He was a magician that could use real magic spells so I think that would be really fitting
klei thinks shadow manipulator is super hard to craft and it's too OP to have a free lvl 1 magic. oh well, wicker which is MUCH stronger in all ways than maxwell, for some REASON CAN ACTUALLY SKIP ALL OF MAGIC CRAFTS WITH 1 BOOK WITH A CHEAP RECIPE.
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 mf can make wanda craft her alarming clock day 1
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 basically the hardest part about shadow manipulator is getting tree guardian rng
@@dinoaurus1 they guarantee to spawn 2 Totally Normal Trees in the world
I always thought it would be cool if Wilson skipped a science tier but only in the science tab
I didn't think they could make the shadows weaker then they already were. At least the duelist seems better.
I'd argue they're stronger now. They only cost 1/5 of a nightmare fuel to summon and you can have them each working in their own areas for a while and collect all the resources. The two traps are pretty disappointing though.
@@cabbage426 they last like a minute and the range is tiny i've tried to find use for em they don't have one
@@ericwheton6935 I mean, just while you're exploring around, you can place a couple loggers around a forest spread them out and then come back for the resources. I think they're pretty useful, especially since they're so cheap.
I think almost all the abilities are useful, the workers are so cheap it's easy to spam them, duelists are duelists, they suck but again spam. The prison is actually great since it works on bosses. But the only ability that sucks is the shadow sneak. It makes sense but when is any player going to use it, I have never wanted to kill beardlings, shadow bunny men, and/or shadow monkeys. It definitely needs to be tweaked or something interesting. The hats pretty nifty too
@@Mr.Chicken898 I don't undernstand why it's called "sneak" I thought it would make you invisible or something for a few seconds. That could actually be much better, and fit with Maxwell's role of being a glass cannon by giving him an escape tool.
I feel like from using 6 duelists you're going to kill the varg, but you're still gonna be murdered by the nightmares.
Killing nightmares is really easy though
And thats okay. Maxwell should feel like he is playing with fire whenever he uses his power, except he still is one of the weakest characters
@EIVYDAS gr I have skill issue.
@@comagreeny7194 no
Could just summon 5 at a time, and ignore shadows.
I remember when Everything new with the Maxwell Rework | Don't Starve Together was your newest video. How time flies.
no way, it's the guy that made Mutant Testing Reborn on roblox!
Feels like it was just yesterday
@@NabbyLloyd what's that I don't know it
@@NabbyLloyd i didnt even realise that this was him i was about to scroll right past this man without knowing anything
I see how it is. No more funny duelist
his shadows need a massive buff in my opinion and it'd be nice if he had another trap or spell of sorts
yes!!!! they definetly wont add it though.
@@aart7736 hey klei ain't mojang, they are listening to their fans
@@bloopahVIII i just said that cause its a joke since they already added it
Of all the (playable) characters, Maxwell being the one who crashes the game is the most in-character
For all the Maxwell mains here's a warning at 0:21 where he does a thing called 'taking damage'
I'm not sure why this wasn't blurred or why his channel wasn't given a strike by CZcams. I'll look deeper into getting this man banned from the internet for showing such horror, wish me luck.
thank you! doing the community a service.
this is found footage
I had thought so highly of him, too-
I winced when watching the video
Oh my god that’s disgusting. Un subbing right away. I can’t believe this.
I think Maxwell's Shadow Duelists should share I-frames with each other and their damage should go to Maxwell's HP bar, with their A.I working similarly to the Bunnymen. That would make them attack more, last more and add to the gimmick of Maxwell worrying about his HP for it being low and being affected by his Shadow Duelists.
I just wish you could give armor to the duelists or something, and if the radius increased with the workers then idc
I don't think the hp thing could work because I can see a moment where you're low and start running but your duelists continue fighting...
That wouldn't end up being so good.
The duelists kinda do suck, like sure they're easily spammed so go figure they suck. But there should be some sort of way to upgrade them or give them more power, literally anything to increase their usefulness because if it's anything tougher than a pigman or hound they just get mopped in seconds
I simply wouldn't use duelists if they lost me my health. I only get 75, I don't want that wittled away because idiotic duelists keep running into powerful attacks.
@@tin7139 You can already do that.
Run away and eat/heal then return.
i like the part about the rework when maxwell gaming said 'its codexing time' then codexed all over the constant
Hhgjjhj 😂
I know it’s just a beta as of now and I’m just one voice out of many, but this Maxwell rework feels a tad bit underwhelming, unfortunately. After seeing how Wanda had tons of abilities and ways of manipulating dark magic, I had high hopes for them completely transforming Maxwell in a big way. Apart from the changed minions being a little awkward in some areas, I hoped he would be able to cast complex, interesting spells or do more with the shadow puppets than have them only perform simple tasks to save time.
What they added with the nightmare traps or whatever they’re called is a step in the right direction in my opinion, I just think it would be really cool if they expand upon similar ideas. Klei doesn’t need to walk back on any of the changes, I just think all they need to do is continue adding more to Maxwell’s kit. Maybe he could call upon shadow creatures to defend him at a risk of them turning on their master if he goes insane, or cast a shield that allows himself or allies to take one hit without taking any damage. The possibilities are endless, he could have so many cool mechanics that revolve around sanity and add risk and reward plays. He is a former King of the Constant, after all.
Agree
while I like that they servants can do everything instead of there being separate once for everything the fact that they aren't permanent and only work in a small area is a bit annoying. I like the top hat, magic box and spells on the other hand. I just wish he had something that helped in a meaningful way during combat, because it just doesn't feel right that the former king doesn't have some kind of useful assistant, like let him summon actual nightmare creatures or something
TBH if the duelists had actual decent kiting AI they would be amazing at fighting most things.
@@Anomen77 yeah that would be an other solution, I just want him to summon nightmare creatures cuz I think it would fit with him being the former king and all
@@teono6057 how about making him passive to nightmare creatures like the skull crown does and at the same time making it so it's harder for him to get the fuel (mostly just nightmare versions of mobs like rabbits) and improving the shadow servants slightly with a slightly higher sanity cap loss. It'd make Maxwell be the ultimate sanity character even more (sanity is a non-issue, nothing more than a resource), but harder to do the clone stuff
@@IcebaneFilms yeah that sounds really interesting
@@IcebaneFilms Making it harder for him to get fuel to make it harder for him to actually access his benefits is... not that epic. Imagine you're called the shadow king, but can't even get nightmare fuel to use your clones. I don't think this is the way to do it, sadly :(
A touch underwhelming honestly. The only thing I like is his use of a Top hat as a portable chest/backpack, and the trap.
I always envisioned Maxwell in a similar category as Wurt or Webber where they can recruit/create minions as a fun and reliable way to combat enemies and also to explore or gather resources.
It'd be nice if he had more options and variance to his shadow puppets. Maybe he can upgrade his minon's efficiency/damage as he "deciphers" the codex with craftable, but expensive upgrade.
Yeah, his ability doesn't outweigh his lack of hp, and thats the main problem.
the hat is a ender chest for the cave server and surface server
this means if you put items in your hat on the surface. It will not go into the cave and the cave would have a different ender chest due to how the game works
i am all of @@LiteByt is a pretty great song, don't you think so?
I clicked on this and scrolled down looking for the phrase "maxwell gaming"
saw one about 3 comments after this one 👍
I hope they add more spells
Wow. They actually made him... worse?
exactly
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 what? He is now better but pupets need more time
@@Nugget376 the thing that is 'better' is that the puppets can do stones or rocks all at once... but they don't follow you to a new area, soooo the puppets I summon in a forest are still ONLY chopping trees, and the puppets I summon in the rocky biome are still ONLY mining. but now they also die instead of following you to the next area. worse.
@@Maximise07 OH I dont know this, are you sure I think they can go anywhere but when they dont mining or shoping they in 10 seconds die
@@Nugget376 no they can't, orange explicitly explains and shows in the video that they stay in the small radius they are summoned in (you can even see the game provided a circle highlight for when you are summoning a puppet)
funny duelist was nerfed but we got two orange uploads out of it
This is the update of all time. Thank you for showcasing us this masterpiece Orange Man!
I cannot wait to see a Rework Short regarding Maxwell if he gets one. I'd like to know more about his past personally.
Dude, at first I was excited like a kid entering a candy store, how they finally did my boy right, and then I heard about the radius thing.
Yeah but you can spam then and they will do everything in the radius like forests you essentially don't need tools anymore.
The minions are best spread out they will chop and dig all the trees and leave it all to pick up you get 6 shadow duelists while not good still 2 can kite and kill a treegaurd and deal decent damage and the traps let him trap enemies and have his duelists do it for him the only bad spell is shadow sneak
It would be cool if you could put the Codex Umbra into Wicker's bookshelves for them to restore durability. It might be too powerful though.
Nightmare fuel is piss easy to obtain, so I doubt it would impact the game much.
"I'm not letting THAT in MY library" -Wickerbottom, examining the Codex Umbra
No point, with your sanity at pretty much 0 when your using your puppets anyway, you're getting the resources back from the nightmare creatures that spawn anyway
Not really, one nightmarefuel already restores 25% durability on a book, and fuel is not hard to come by
Considering some of wicker's books literally use boss drops and yet are rechargable, I'd say it'd be fine
Awww, I really like the hat/chest thing, that's a very nice/clever touch
dude you deserve like a million subs i love your content
keep making videos we all love it
I think that there should be an option to have the shadows stay where you made them or to follow Maxwell.
I can't unserstand why klei doesn't just make him actually able to control his own powers properly, the servant being limited Thing is outright stupid despite them being cheaper and doing everything, the duelists are still pathetic and they would struggle against even a hound wave, unlike Merm Guards and Webber 8 legged friends which btw can fight bosses properly, the thing that turn creatures in their shadow version is veeeery situational, the ender chest thing is the best of this rework, and the pillars are probably good but you need a warning to know when they're going to run out, is so sad that after the amazing stuff that Wx and Wicker got Maxwell who is the one of most developed and Important character in the Lore got this absolute letdown for the start of his "Rework", lets hope for the best on the next patches
Good changes, Maxwell needed some love. It's not enough tho, we need MORE
I'm pretty satisfied with this update, since now that summoning minions only take durability away from the codex umbra and doesn't waste materials, you can just spam it as much as you want, which is awesome, and makes the minions' frailties a bit more trivial in my opinion, since as long as you have Umbra durability to spare, you can always just summon more. Not to mention the magic top hat which gives Maxwell 12 free extra inventory slots, which is awesome. Only gripe is that the shadow sneak ability is pretty useless, like it only changes the form of certain mobs? That's a pretty niche and situational effect to dedicate an entire spell to.
"Did I forget something?"
"If you forgot it, then it probably wasn't important"
"Oh yeah"
Wilson still waiting for his rework:
Ive never played this game but the art style and story is really interesting. Thanks for all of the videos
They should just give Maxwell an identity in terms of gameplay. What is he? A gatherer, support, versatility character? He can do a lot of things with his abilities but none of them are very good.
On the good side, Klei is at least improving their character design by not only adding a character abilities based on their story. Just kidding, his top hat ability and transformation has no real logic to be in his kit, yet he still has them. Why can't they just leave this kind of thinking? I thought that Walter made them realize that it just doesn't work :(
pre rework he is legit the best gatherer in the game by far. chop down and dig stumps of entire forest just by casually strolling past the map. I love starting maxwell just because.. it's infinite wood and stone. can really get base design happening faster. new maxwell seems shitter. sure they can do the rocks AND the trees, but in... a tiny space. usually there is only rocks or trees in an area anyway. now instead of my guys chopping down the entire map as I drink coffee with an arrow key held down, they'll do a small space and then die :(
@@Maximise07 The problem that the current Maxwell has as a gatherer, is that its not his only role. He can get large amounts of materials, but for what exactly? He can only build the same things as other characters can.
If they wanted to make his playstyle focus on him being a gatherer, then they should give him other abilities that require large amounts of certain things. They could even expand the number of things he could farm, because currently its just the wood and the things that come with mining rocks.
His current character, along with this rework, doesn't have an identity. He consists of abilities that are entirely unrelated to each other in terms of function, and they don't make Maxwell a consistent character as a result
@@Maximise07 Except he isn't the best gatherer. Bearger is literally better than him in every way. Let's see who can take down 1000 marble and 1000 trees faster. It's not max, it's leading bearger, something any character can do.
I'm in love with the thumbnail.
They forgot everything he can do with his unique abilities can be done better without.
Bosses to destroy tree farms, backpacks and Chester, followers.
He doesn't make use of "Friendly" Nightmare Creatures or get a better version of Nightmare Sword/Armor despite fitting him.
I think him being able to summon Nightmare Creatures but slowly losing Sanity and if your Sanity hits 0 they all turn on you would be an interesting mechanic. It would tie into him playing with the darkness but also how he overreaches.
This would also be interesting because in the Lunar Biome this would fit thematically as the shadows clearly dislike the moon. They could be weaker but have no penalty for having them summoned.
As to how this is different then normal followers simply put they don't obey physics and there are two types.
It would make him function like Wendy where you want one follower but with the benefit of Wicker, Wort, and Webber where he could have many. It would also make him functionally unique since you'd want to wear sanity restoring equipment.
So with a full set of optimal sanity restoration you might be able to have 2 Shadow Creatures infinitely.
I go on a vacation for ONE week and this guy gets his rework
Oh wow, they're actually doing this. I came into this thinking it would be a troll video about Maxwell gaming, but I guess it's a metatroll.
sort of predicted maxwell rework will be the next update due to them saying the next short is a pretty big one
Idea for a video. You and your friends have to talk like your characters, and if you don’t, you get hit by Charlie.
I swear i just watched all of your vidoes and cant stop crying at laughing
Finally, Maxwell gaming will thrive even more
Oh god I hope the shadow servants being so unfathomably crappy is owed to it still being beta. I'm still recovering from the Wolfgang incident Klei please
Maxwell is a really cool character and I always wanted to main him.
sadly im not good with kiting and other dangers
I wonder if anything health or sanity wise will change
Oh I'm sure you can improve, just find a koalafant hit it 6 times back off and repeat. You'll get the trick.
Honestly if you want to get good at kiting and avoid tanking, play maxwell, that low hp forced me to be more careful when I first started playing him :)
learn how to tame a beefalo fast, and then sit on that beefy boi. you become a super tank with a huge damage weapon and no durability, and keep all ur maxwell resourcefulness:D
@@Maximise07 yeah but not everyone wants to spend 4 hours licking ass of a beefalo to be able to fight properly,i think he just wants to learn how to kite and simply get good at the game
@@manapotu6623The solution was, as always, git gud
Dude this is Maxwell gaming fr
I’m really glad in the hot fixes they made the duelists really good.
maxwell deserves better, this rework is kinda trash (except the ender chest)
His cage completely breaks dragonfly and his minions are quick to resummon anywhere you like. Also dancing emote will gather them up so that's one way to control them.
Me and Tarunio destroyed bee queen and dragonfly as maxwells with duelists and cages.
Honestly it is better, I still don't like it thought because now he just feels bad to me.
@@stevesteveington6336 at the very least the workers should follow you around, since they last so little time anyway
Oh man I sure am glad Klei made it so we can only spawn 6 shadow duelists. Imagine if there was no limit haha that would be crazy
it's lame:( wish it was zero cap, but still cost sanity. so if you had enough sanity foods, you could summon an army of duelists to fight a boss for you, but it'd take just as much cheese preparation time as wickerbottoms tentacles, and be.. well dramatically worse still because the duelists are weak af.
The shadow loggers could be good for afk farms but them not following you really sucks for mining and, well pretty much everything else. You can't plant rocks or graves. It also sucks in the early game because you can't take down huge forests, you have to grow your own plantations. Shadow duelists are at least a little better now that you can have 6. I like the refueling mechanic, very convenient. Traps could be handy with bosses but the shadow sneak seems kinda lame. Why would I ever need to use that when I could just spawn a few servants and go insane lol. I do enjoy the direction it's going with maxwell being more of a support character, it just needs a little work.
I think if maxwell can get some sanity refund when the shadow puppets die, if worker AI was improved (judging from the clips in the video they seem extremely inefficient) and if duelists were made to be more powerful, then this would be a viable rework. Otherwise this is just maxwell gaming except even worse now
Im very glad that its almost like their returning to the mechanics of the original Maxwell.
Well the FUNNY duelists are now gone. S A D
I thought they where gonna do some wild shit with him but recently they really haven't been popping off with these reworks like they did for the wx and Wolfgang ones
Still good though
To be honest I was kind of hoping for more with this rework, but I love the top hat thing and the traps! It would also be cool if he could make a version of the thulecite Maxwell's Traps from adventure mode
This seems like a good groundwork for a new maxwell maybe he'll get more traps and become more like a webber Winona hybrid
If you put one or two shadow gatherers at base they could just keep picking twigs and grass until you get back. If you could somehow link their ability to gather things to a chest or Chester that would be a good update
Haha i saw the first version of this video
Idk about you but MaxwellGaming just got a whole lot more gamer
8/10 hello everyone good work been a while tho
It would be cool if he could like throw homing terrorbeaks
Im sorry, what?
@@imbob99999 Homing. Airborne. Terrorbeaks.
Yeet
@@crunch.dot.73 dear god
Would be nice if u analyzed the animated short encore
video so nice, he had to upload it twice
finally arrived this update!
maxwell the ultimate resource mule
When maxwell revealed he was Waxmell the entire time I felt that.
love your vids
Maxwell is finally a magician he was
If they just made the worker's radius much larger, they would be great. Then you could just summon a few by a tree farm and run off to do other things.
do they work when out of render distance?
Let's hope Maxwell gets his ability to turn his computer on before the rework gets published
Very happy with the changes as a maxwell main
Wonder if klei will patch dragonfly super cheese
Suggestion: Don’t Starve Together but no one can see (they can only see a torch radius of light at all times or to make it more challenging, only a thermal stone radius
How did I miss a rework
omg orange actually uploading?!!!?!?!??!?!?@?@@?!
I like the new top hat, trap, and the duelists. The gatherers seem useless now though and it doesn’t really feel like they changed much
We be gaming.
The small radius kills me
So, he loses sanity permanently with the book? Is there some way to regen it? Idk I'm not Maxwell Gaming
It appears you get it back after the minions die
@@viniciusgoulart5077 damn
I think Maxwell should have shadow creatures be neutral to him like when you wear a bone helm. Remove the radius thing for the shadow servants and allow him to teleport with shadow fuel like Wortox, maybe even allow him to teleport other people with him and voila. Also have WX's music circuit reduce his sanity, it just makes sense
Oh? But idk it feels like he's even weaker now
WHAT? YOU REWORKED MY MECHANICS WHILE I WAS afKAAAAAYYY? THATS-IT IM TURNING MY COMPUTER ON
The only suggestion I would make is to remove the cap on summoned clones and that summoning shadow clones drains sanity instead of reducing maximum sanity. The shadow clones will expire when Maxwell runs out of sanity or manually dismisses them. If A Maxwell wants to spend a season mass farming beef jerky so that he can constantly slam it down his throat in order to keep 30 clones summoned at once for a boss fight, he should be able to do so.
I wonder if he ever gets control of his hounds again
Oh my god, Waxmell fro Don't Starve
“Whichever’s cheaper” well just kill 4 nightmares for the fuel. No point in wasting reeds and using 50 health.
But there is the thing that maxwell can hold on to sanity pretty well.
Maxwell Gaming moment
Nooo them following you was so gooodddd
Thanks
Orange has such a nice voice
the reckoning
There was a mod on the Workshop that was basically a much better Maxwell rework than the actual one we've got...
Finally. The Maxwell rework. It honestly seems like its going to be pretty cool, tho the puppets really need to change
damn i hope worm wood was gonna be first
also what was the "really stupid" thing u said in the og?
like every bit of it no complains
the area thing feels really bad while playing, it costs a lot from the book and sanity to get these guys out and they pretty much do what you could, also the fact you kinda have to "wait" for them sux and you don't really choose which action they will perform first, whereas if you were doing things yourself you can just keep exploring and using your time better to find flints, rocks, carrots, etc. on the ground
the only decent part about the book are the duelists which do help a ton during hound attacks for example (saved me and my brother multiple times when we started playing) and the shadow prison is great somehow but it's not super impressive either (like imagine if you could spawn a pillar made of shadow that lasted all night, or forever if inside a cave, that would be so much better)
Shadow servant is good if you have a super condensed tree farm
I love looking back at old maxwell beta videos, everyone saying he needed a buff and now everyone wants him nerfed 😂
I thought he was gonna have no sanity loss form marking puppets
Very Nice
Can't wait for doy doy pope to get added
Maxwell or Maxpain... Servant shadows are best for gathering stuff in compact area that you planted I guess(ex: twigs, trees, and grass) he probably need some anti shadows equips to fully use duelist shadows since he is always vulnerable...
I don't think they can gather twigs or grass, though I think it would be cool
@@danielmcsween9054 they can now
When I saw this video I just though woah! There is a maxwell rework?
he is gaming
I like this update.