MAXWELL VS. WANDA: WHO WILL WIN? [Maxwell Rework] | Don't Starve Together
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In which I talk about the recent Maxwell rework, and how the new and improved post-update Maxwell sizes up against the shadowy juggernaut Wanda.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:22 Nestheads Sponsor
03:53 Intro cont.
05:16 PART 1: Deceitful Old Schemes
09:55 PART 2: Devious New Tricks
12:18 PART 3: Storage, Sweet Storage
14:01 PART 4: Time Travelling Timeline Tangler
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Any long-time viewers of this channel will know how much I like Maxwell. I mean, there is just something about this man that is impossible not to like. His apathetic attitude towards virtually everything. His apparent disdain for all things festive. His preference towards letting shadowy versions of himself perform all manner of tasks, saving both the integrity of his spine, and his sanity. Of course, all of these things pale in comparison to his position as the ex-overlord of Donât Starveâs fictional time prison wherein the game takes place, as well the ex-villain of the first entry in the gameâs franchise.
So, needless to say, there are a lot of eyes on Maxiferus Wellium and where he has ended up post-
rework. Not only in terms of his gameplay, but also the highly anticipated character short.
First thingâs first, the Codex Umbra - Maxwellâs beloved book whoâs name makes him sound like a 13 year old who just discovered Latin, has been reworked. No longer is it a crafting station - instead, reading it will open a âspell wheelâ with all of Maxwellâs new abilities ready and waiting. Each spell will drain a small amount of durability, which can predictably be refreshed by feeding the book a healthy serving of nightmare fuel. This makes the book feel much more like a book, because- you actually read it now. Having it function like a portable crafting station definitely felt quite a bit janky, so in all honesty, Iâm glad to see that gone. The first two of Maxwellâs spells are the Shadow Duelist and Servant - the latter being a homogenisation of the Shadow Miners, Loggers, and Diggers from the âcodex craftaâ of old. Instead of forming a shadowy troupe and marching around the world alongside Maxwell, his minions will now be restricted to an area where they were summoned, but will perform their respective tasks inside - that being all manner of manual labour, including the ability to bring harvested items to the player. This âset and forgetâ method is an interesting tradeoff. The puppets require much less cognitive effort to summon and micromanage, as well as far less cost when it comes to nightmare fuel, but now have quite a limited range. The biggest loss, though, is the feeling of strutting around with your own personal army composed entirely of yourself, which is now a relic of the past. Overall, however, I think this new way of the puppets functioning is an improvement. Theyâre much easier to manage, and waste far less time, nightmare fuel, and real-life sanity.
Aside from now being shadowy slashers who can duck and weave from the darkness, Duelistsâ lower cost makes them an actually reliable ally in combat. Particularly versus bosses who donât possess many AoE attacks, large numbers of duelists can make short work of anything large standing in your path - as well as everyday encounters against foes like hounds or pigmen, if you have the fuel to spare.
Additionally, wearing âshadow magicâ themed items will increase your shadowsâ damage output. This effect can stack, and can be bolstered from all three of your equip slots. Any shadow item will give a small buff, but âoffensiveâ items in this category will give a greater bonus. The biggest boost comes from Fuelweaver drops - the bone helm and bone armour giving the second-highest, and the Shadow Thurible bestows the highest buff of all. This gives Maxwell players quite a lot of incentive to fight Fuelweaver.
Unlike some other characters, namely Winona, Maxwell doesnât have any abilities that will singlehandedly trivialise the almighty Weaver. Some of his new abilities do make the fight easier, but youâre still handicapped by Maxwellâs extremely low maximum health, his main drawback which thankfully remains in the game post-update.
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why not try a vtuber?
That was one of the most convincing sponsor i have ever seen.
the TV head hat is really cool, much better than the 2d png guy, but the greenscreening definetly needs some work... good video though! very good indeed!
Fun Fact: While not mentioned here on the video, the Shadow Sneak will also transform Rabbits, Bunny People and Spulmonkeys into their nightmare variants regardless of how much sanity the player/s have, in addition to the fear effect. This gives Maxwell players the ability to get Nightmare Fuel without having to fight monsters early on, it's also a slightly better source for Beard Hair and Monster Meat.
no idea how I forgot about this - thank you
And this comment failed to add, that it gives these changed creatures guaranteed nightmare drops, even in cases where they otherwise wouldn't drop it. Which, does as the comment says it does.
splumonkeys actually don't get scared
The 3D scenes feel like a fever dream, in a very pleasant way
You forgot to mention his 5th role.
Nightmare fuel farm. This is GIANT, especially for the overhaul balance of the game. Maybe Klei will finally give us new methods to obtain fuel and MAYBE a Sanity rework, as you discussed long ago in your 2017-2018 video.
One man can only hope đ
The 3D scenes were very funny, although I kind of appreciated how unobtrusive the old stills were, this feels like it distracts a bit from the purpose of the video. Top tier content as always, however, keep up the good work!
To be honest Iâd HAPPY take some distracting moments if I get to see DONT STARVE FREDDO IN THE ACTUAL GAME show up on my screen. Really? THAT!? THATâS SO COOL! I LOVE THAT!!
The amount of effort in this video is amazing, nice work freddo
Definitely the definition of quality>quantity
I wonder if characters could get two refreshes, because Woody's did next to nothing to help him
Well, you have predicted the future.
I love the commitment to your character by wearing a tv mask for the 3D segments instead of something easier
First off, really cool 3D Freddo, it does add some uniqueness the change between 2D avatar, ingame character and real life person.
Amd my thoughts about the Maxwell rework is; If they just made duelists' kiting pattern better it would have been cool, but good god they made them so much better, also yeah, why is shadow sneak called like that? Very confusing, Maxwell got the changes he always needed to stop feeling like a Wilson but with X items and crafts
this is by far your best video
Yo, just found you out but I reeally love the aesthetics of the video. Keep the good work!
The live action bits combined with your voice gave me some serious Don't Hug Me I'm Scared vibes, what with Red Guy and all.
that sounds really boring
Loving the aesthetics so far, the TV Head trope may have been done a lot back in the day but I don't I've seen it done this way before with this kind of Style. Really unique and pairs great with the editing, it was fitting that you got a refresh as well when covering Maxwell again given your history with the character. Definitely looking forward to whatever comes next Freddo.
Thanks for all the effort you put in this video :)
i really enjoyed the video and the new style! Hope you continue experimenting and have fun filming, editing and posting!
Wow, that's crazy. I had no idea he was a TV head in real life.
The amount of effort is clear for me u r passionate about it and it pays. Nice shot man
The real life shots were really cool, and added a lot to the quality of the video, in my opinion. Great job!
Really like the new style, keep up the good work!
Really well done. Keep doing what your doing!
great work freddo! :)
The tv head looks awesome ! Really cool seeing that and the you in game is really nice i hope u do some more :)
amazing vid!
Nice video, love it
Love the new look it nice that you are trying new things and I think it was hard to make, just turn the silliness down a little ^^
this video is so well made and the editing was top notch, I wish don't starve had a wider audience so this guy gets the attention he deserves ):
Itâs cool to see you growing đ
Thats what she said
Heâs back! Finally!
Love the new 3 dimensional look
1:00 yessssss I love people that put boneworks music into videos â„ïžâ„ïž
I love that tv you put on you hea⊠I mean I love the 3D dimensional travel you did with you character, definitely an improvement for te channel and opens more possibilities for future videos
Great video! If I had any comment on the irl footage I would say that maybe you should make you as a focus a bit smaller? It really makes yours own though, maybe if more of your torso was visible that would make it more natural. Overall great decision though!
This is sick
I love your videos.
Love the tv on your head
that intro tho
This is surreal
I really like the Le TV on head RL bits good work Freddo
2:36 an excellent escape. âEscapismâ doesnât make sense there.
the real life footage looks great! also really love the use of half life in the soundscape, made me boot up episode 2 to replay the white forest inn ambush again.
cheers, I appreciate that
and yeah, the music choice was inspired by a random playthrough of ep2 I had recently lol
isn't this just the non-furry equivalent of using a fursuit after having a fursona for a time? /j
The real life stuff was pretty cool, definitely wouldn't mind a mix of the old stills and this also :)
I think this video was very fun, even though it was all over the place with the silliness, i can tell it was an experiment and I think it was actually a fun watch. Never thought i'd see a 3D Freddo lol
3D is a lot of fun :D
haven't watched yet just reached 0:30 and all i can say is what a GIGAchad!
the thumbnail made me think this was gonna be some sick rap battle
Finally, The Freddo film rework is there. I'm very happy now.
I love the 3d
Haven't played DST for a while (thanks, High School), but I'm considering playing a long-term world with the updated Shadow King during Winter Break. Just have to shake off the rust.
Also, like the 3D attempt.
FREDDO ARE U REAL!!?!?
apparently I am now yeah
14:32 funniest part
E P I C
honestly imo you couldve just gotten a new more expressive set of stills but that tv looks dope as hell, i want one
Freddo, amazing vid as always.
I could suggest painting colors of the TV screen with real paint OR sticking the pattern on the screen to avoid flares and flashes of light.
Then It would be easier to balance better greenscreen because you'll be able to use more light without any fear of screen being to blinding for the viewer.
you forgot ONE HUGE DETAIL
he can read all of wickers books! this makes him extremly cool to play as
It's one of the video I've watched
I like the new style and costume although I will say there is room for some improvement. I would try to make it a little bit more cartoony cause it's a very cool concept. Maybe make the tv wider or a different color so it doesn't blend in with your sweater. Idk just some ideas, good video đ
Approved, this is based, maxwell main since don't starve.
i love the 3d filming but i also love the png. would it be possible for you to do both? that would amazing
I'm still waiting for the Gold'n Gamer rework where he finally becomes 3 dimensional.
Your avatar is cool don't let anyone tell you otherwise
Me like the video.
Happy 30th Mr freddo frog
my what?
The 3D scenes were very good and I love them, although I feel like the light reflections on the screen are a bit distracting
I will miss the your beautiful 2D TV render, it was extremely iconic and made your videos what they were in my eyes. Your 3D self is truly beautiful, don't get me wrong, but it sometimes obscures 80% of the entire screen which is quite disorienting when watching the video. Aside from that I have zero complaints, this video is phenomenal, as all of your recent ones are.
Ok here is my subscribe TV head man.
Whoa hyper realistic freddo
I wasn't expecting a face reveal in this video
Git became a real boy
Maxwell enjoyer :D
So many walls were broken in this video I feel.
Love me some boneworks music in this video
great game, I didn't finish it (dont have vr) but it gave me motion sickness so I rate it đ
@@FreddoFilms highly recommend listing to bonelab soundtrack made by same guy video was great by the way had good pacing and jokes were funny
13:26 more like my friends using it to put trash items or almost broken tools
I use it to give my friend Maxwell a lot of shell bells
le tv on head avatar is becomed real
Fun fact, if you had shadow puppets up before the rework they would not switch to their proper forms after the rework...atleast, when I checked right after the rework happened.
The tv avatar is cool, even i'm real life
Did you notice Wilson and Webber are the only survivors from the real world not to be on the chess board?
yes, it feels weird for them to forget about wilson but I guess anything's possible (I doubt it's an intentional detail because wilson and webber don't have anything in common that'd set them apart from the rest of the characters)
@@FreddoFilms In solo dst Webber is most likely the first to end up in the constant since you find his skull and you need to revive him, and Wilson basically started everything off so they may have more planned for them. Maybe not Webber but Wilson being such a key character within the story it doesnât make sense for them to just forget to have him on the chess board.
Absolutely love the 3d! Idk why these comments want the 2D back lmao
3D is good, especially transition to the next point with the cassette.
The pace was the only issue I felt, with the amount of off topic you did.
Good work though! I'd like to keep seeing the 3D version. You don't need to be unique, you need to be you
please of god get a better green screen
P.S keep up the good work
yeah, my lighting rig needs work, but appreciated nonetheless
Ahauahuauahuaua i like the part when wanda cannot build walls around the enemies
Wow I legit got called out
Love the 3 dimensional le TV.
I wonder if there is a way to get rid of the screens and light reflections tho.
I'm not sure, it's quite a tricky problem to solve
might just have to minimize the amount of frontal light and have everything from the side
Holy sh** he's finally 3D
WOOOO 3d
no way
he got real
Youll get used to switching verses dont worry
I definitely think the 3d is the way to go, it looks amazing, but wow is that green screen distracting
yeah, my lighting rig sucks ass at the minute lol, slowly working on it tho
Good video as always. Not sure I like the 3D head. Seems like itâs more difficult to keep it high quality. Very pixelated at times.
that's fair, my camera and lighting rig aren't the greatest, need to work on those
You character mod exist? Cool
it's a WIP, still working on it for now
I think I am
You are
You truly are
Honestly id prefer if you remained 2D. I liked the art style and it focused on the video subject a bit more. Gonna keep watching regardless and great video nonetheless !
Wanda and Maxwell together fighting bosses does sound disgusting
i have to ask, how heavy did the tv end up being?
I haven't weighed it but it only really makes my lower back sore after about over an hour of wearing it, so it's not super heavy
most of the weight came from the crt mechanisms inside, including the screen :)
Funny you should compare Wanda and Maxwell, cuz they're basically the best combo in the game in my opinion. Other than Celestial Champ and Toadstool i don't see any boss even being able to fight Wanda from Max's cage. I've had a few boss runs with friends and it highlighted the stark contrast of singleplayer and multiplayer Maxwell.
Singleplayer, i will say Maxwell is one of the most convenient, and versatile with the newly added abilities (early game, you can use shadow sneak on things like tallbirds and stuff for free stuff, or on clockworks in the ruins, making bishops just a joke now; and mid/late game you have bosses controlled by prison, and you can just play summoner class). Of course, you will have a bit of trouble getting nightmare fuel early on, but you can either choose to spawn 6 slav- i mean workers/fighters to forcefully lower your max sanity to 20. A trip to the ruins early on will do Max no harm either (especially against Ancient Guardian since duelists do not trigger shadow tentacles in phase 2). Later on, against other bosses, if you want to fight like a basic character against bosses you can, but Maxwell's magic will make short work of every boss, but you need to handle your sanity (cooked green caps or cooked cacti will help a lot), saving you on other rather hard-to-get resources, mastering Maxwell means you basically only ever need nightmare fuel, sanity, and shadow equipment for bosses. Of course, heavy emphasis on MASTERING, if you slip up at any point, if you don't have a fail safe you will pay a hefty price.
In multiplayer, Maxwell is undeniably one of the best offensive support characters (yes you can choose to fight alone but why would you choose to do so your friends are just more slav- i mean power). You don't even need to get any equipment, just need to use shadow prison and any boss will melt, even beequeen. And due to how that works, your chances of slipping up is basically 0, just having to occassionally gaining sanity, or even have friends help out with nightmare creatures.
The difference is night and day, Maxwell alone is able to do everything on his own! But just like the story, Max can always use some help when there are people around, which i find is super satisfying. This rework made Maxwell great alone or with others, just requires a bit of skill.
This is tough one. I have started to main both Wanda and Maxwell. With Wanda it's much harder to clear mobs (Try clearing a forest of level 3 spiders with her solo, even with old Wanda + good gears it's hard -- at least for the average player). Maxwell on the other hand has everything, resource management, mob control abilities, boss-soloing skills, the DPS but he takes forever to set up well imo. Ideally you want to rush shadow manipulator, get an ornery tamed beefalo, and do a ruins rush and AG by the first autumn. Hell, I've seen really good Maxwell's rush AG, and Fuel-weaver during winter. High skill ceiling but the reward is a late-game Maxwell by Klaus (War saddle ornery beefalo, with bone helm + bone armor). Wanda at her best also is still pretty hard to manage (and keep alive) because even with dark armor + crown you are still working with 35 ish HP. You need to be a kiting master and constantly look at her age. But then again with Wanda you can make a wormhole network which makes the entire game so much easier to traverse.
@@cheesedust-n3w wanda is easier and slightly less rewarding than maxwell whist maxwell is less manual work. If you struggle with clearing spider dens just do it in the morning, and even at night as long as you dont hit spiders onthe webbing wanda is by far the 2nd easiest to clear with, behind wendy with some potions, as well as glands since shes killing spiders anyway.
Either way in my opinion maxwell is the best since hes good at everything, but it requires more skill than wanda
â@@caoinhnamkhanh2795 After wracking on even more hours with both characters I have a clearer idea, at least for my play style, which one is better. I mean, clearly, Maxwell is just way better objectively speaking... Tame a beefalo by day 3-4, build a basic base, ruins rush by day 8-9 kill Ancient Guardian, day 12-15 get your tier 3 thucelite gear whose durability will never really decline and by the time you kill deerclops you will have an onery beefalo with ruins gear and shadow creatures nearly maxed. It's much harder to die as Maxwell. On the solo tier list he easily sits atop the list. With a beefalo he's just untouchable (How can you die in the ruins with a beefalo + moggles + shadow workers -- You can even wear a marble suit if you want to clear the ruins).
That said, I prefer to play Wanda, ironically enough, when I play with others. It feels a lot more challenging because of her frailty. I don't rush ruins rush with her, just shadow manipulator rush to get Alarming Clock by day 5-6 and then I go to the archive to get more healing watches, a backstep watch, and stockpile fragments for future watches. I mean, this can all be done by day 12-15 by a casual player imo. The thing that makes this so much more fun is Wanda adds WAY more to the team than Maxwell. It makes the game more fun. Between creating an instant network between biomes, having the ability to res your party, everyone feels the difference. I usually play with my partner and she goes Wendy or Wigfrid so they compliment one another. A tank and a glass cannon. That's another thing. As Wanda you definitely feel 10x stronger in a team setting, especially with tanks. You clearly feel the difference as well. Add some spicy recipes, volt goat jelly, garlic powder, or some weather controlling stuff and yeah... Then she feels as God-like as Maxwell. I would choose that Wanda even over a bone-armored Maxwell on an ornery battle beefalo accompanied by 15 grumble bees ^__^.
Do wickerbottom's rework next!
already did czcams.com/video/GwZz96CqyvM/video.html it's at the end of this vid
@@FreddoFilms my bad
Idk why but I was expecting a pvp match...
Will you continue making videos on games unrelated to don't starve as well? despite their unfortunate underperformance?
most likely yeah, I find it a bit exhausting to only make videos about 1 thing lmao
See card? What card? Where do I get my wartox card??
Can I make a suggestion. Can you turn up your audio in post? I can barely hear. I rather turn down loud audio than to hold the speaker to my ear
I'm not sure what you mean, the audio levels on this video are fine (compared to random other vids on YT).
maybe your web browser is turned down in volume mixer or something