What Caused This Fire In The Air ? (Nigeria Airways/Nationair Flight 2120) Disaster Breakdown

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  • čas přidán 17. 09. 2021
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    A Douglas DC8 erupts into flames once leaving the runway at Jeddah Airport in Saudi Arabia. There were 261 people on board the burning aircraft. The crash of Nigeria Airways flight 2120, operated by Nationair became the deadliest accident to involve a Canadian Airline and the deadliest accident to involve a Dc8. After bursting into flames after takeoff, the plane crashed into the desert killing all on board.
    Background Music Credits:
    Ghosting - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
    Aloft - LEMMiNO
    Exile - Lo Mimieux
    Transmitting - Ethan Sloan
    Sources:
    reports.aviation-safety.net/1...
    web.archive.org/web/201807121...
    timenote.info/en/events/Niger...
    web.archive.org/web/201410101...
    apnews.com/article/676b6d3bec...

Komentáře • 323

  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  Před 2 lety +53

    If you found this video interesting be sure to subscribe as there is a new video every Saturday. This video also went out to my Patrons 48 hours before going out publicly. You can join the Disaster Breakdown Patreon here from £3 per month: www.patreon.com/DisasterBreakdown

    • @YDKJ07
      @YDKJ07 Před 2 lety

      I've been waiting for a investigation on this air disaster.

    • @manuelcervinobaston4076
      @manuelcervinobaston4076 Před 2 lety +1

      Can you do Next the Runway colisión in Madrid please love your videos

    • @onforetv7891
      @onforetv7891 Před 2 lety

      This DC-8 NationAir 2120 is on simpleplanes model scale from Jelybaca's Website

  • @thea1990x
    @thea1990x Před 2 lety +487

    I remember once when I was younger and going on a family holiday our plane was delayed 9 hours. When we finally boarded the pilot explained the reason for the delay was he smelled a burning rubber smell after landing at our departure destination so wanted to get the tires changed just incase(which involved flying tires in from another destination). I remember being so mad at the time, all that delay because of a weird smell? Now after watching all these vids I’m so grateful the pilot was so cautious

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +48

      Hell yeah!! You were still alive to be pissed then, and are still alive, so you can tell us how pissed you were then!! I hope this didn't piss you off. Just keep in mind...its much better to be pissed off, then to be pissed on!! I'm glad your Captain did the only correct thing and that was fix the problem before it became a problem.👍👍

    • @mkevilempire
      @mkevilempire Před 2 lety +37

      Yeah, the last flight I was on got delayed almost two hours due to a change of aircraft.
      In the replacement aircraft the captain informed us that the plane was switched because of unresolved issues with the parking brake.
      It doesn't sound like much of a problem but like any air crash investigation shows us, you can hardly ever be too careful.
      I was actually a bit nervous while waiting for boarding the first plane, because I could see the pilots walk around the plane multiple times and I knew that wasn't normal.
      So I was a bit relieved when the plane got switched and I didn't care about the time lost.
      And PS:
      This is a great channel and this video is as well made as the rest of them. Thumbs up

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 2 lety +14

      @@mkevilempire Safety always first
      The time lost from your pilot was because they want to give the safeness to passengers

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před 2 lety +7

      In life? It's almost always better to be too cautious, than to suddenly find you haven't been cautious enough. Possibly in a fatal or permanently life-damaging way.
      Err on the side of caution.

    • @CupwakeRBLX
      @CupwakeRBLX Před rokem +2

      This crash was likely his incentive to react that way.

  • @lizpurr8402
    @lizpurr8402 Před 2 lety +153

    This is just horrifying! The fact that those poor people were trapped in that absolute inferno and couldn’t even jump from the plane - those who didn’t burn to death, died on impact in the explosion! This was so awful and SO preventable, it’s infuriating.

    • @aeronaut74
      @aeronaut74 Před rokem

      All because of those overprotective female flight attendants.

    • @moiraatkinson
      @moiraatkinson Před rokem

      @Elizabeth Purr what a lovely name you have - *Purr* !
      I adore cats and have my own purry companion, who is right now curled up sleeping beside me 🥰. This type of aircraft disaster makes me glad that I wasn’t able to fly much in those days it was just far too expensive - and a lot less safe!

    • @user-uv5ld3cx5t
      @user-uv5ld3cx5t Před rokem +6

      ​@@aeronaut74were they somehow be able to open the door, the plane would have burned even more quickly due to the amount of oxygen suddenly supplied to the onboard fire and kill all of them even sooner (not that the result was too different, that said)

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes! Burning to death is probably the worst way to go!

    • @mongol33t
      @mongol33t Před 4 měsíci

      and fake and never happen :)

  • @kristita_888
    @kristita_888 Před 2 lety +268

    This would not only have been a terrifying experience for the passengers and crew; it also would have been horrific for the investigators. Your descriptions of the injuries that passengers sustained was gut-wrenching. Those poor people.

    • @djmoch1001
      @djmoch1001 Před 2 lety +35

      Listening to him read out the injury descriptions made my stomach go into knots. I can't even imagine the poor people suffering so badly in those final few minutes. What an absolute tragedy.

    • @kristita_888
      @kristita_888 Před 2 lety +20

      @@djmoch1001 I agree…what a horrible last few minutes of their lives. I truly hope that they succumbed to smoke inhalation before the burns and falling to the earth. At least it would have been faster.

    • @KristinCortez
      @KristinCortez Před 2 lety +8

      I just saw this covered on "The Flight Channel" yesterday. As soon as I saw this title, I obviously knew what happened. I immediately had tears streaming down my face just thinking about what these poor people endured. I also think about their families; not only did they lose loved ones but they knew how horribly they suffered. And one of the worst parts was that this was completely preventable. My heart, my thoughts, and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones. 🙏🏻

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +14

      Y'all got to remember when you have a 100 ton plane hitting the ground at such high speeds. There is an ungodly amount of energy created with the plane. It takes a lot of it. But the people are being hammered with thousands of lbs of force, they also are being hit at the same time with thousands of lbs of all of the planes components. Every plane crash that involves an airliner hitting the.ground, lots of the time the engines are still driving all that mass into the ground faster. Pretty much ALL humans on board are going to be dismembered, decapitated, burned beyond recognition.....basically any type of gore that can be put on a human body, will happen when these big planes collide into anything really on land. It's just too much force for flesh, bones, and blood to withstand. Please forgive my graphic explanation. It is all part of airline crashes. That's why there is such emphasis placed on 100% safety on 100% of all flights.
      R.I.P. to all who perished and their families.

    • @kristita_888
      @kristita_888 Před 2 lety +5

      @@patrickmollohan3082 That is so true, Patrick. I think what was so terrible to me was the description of the extent of the passenger’s burns. Thinking of a person’s skin being fused to the actual metal of the airplane…oh, it just breaks my heart. Horrible.

  • @katiesays
    @katiesays Před 2 lety +94

    I’ve binged watched a lot of aviation disaster videos and this one is definitely one of the most horrifying. In some videos, the plane is plummeting from such a high altitude, the people onboard go unconscious before the crash. Here, they only hit 2,000 feet and were burning as they were falling through the plane. There really aren’t any words to describe how tragic this was.

  • @Samsonschizovsky76
    @Samsonschizovsky76 Před 2 lety +130

    This probably is the most horrifying and gruesome plane crash in history.

    • @Giratina575
      @Giratina575 Před 2 lety +3

      Definitely a bad one but the worst goes to the 1977 disaster at Tenerife

    • @lisasuzanne8474
      @lisasuzanne8474 Před 2 lety +13

      @@Giratina575 ~ I think that the poster is referring to what the people went through. And this was way worse than Tenerife. Tenerife people never knew what hit them.

    • @lisasuzanne8474
      @lisasuzanne8474 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed, Samuel. And I've researched all plane crashes.

    • @virginiaviola5097
      @virginiaviola5097 Před rokem +10

      @@Giratina575 at least the accident at Tenerife was quick, and probably for the majority they didn’t even know what happened. To be in the air with the plane on fire and disintegrating around you, while passengers around you are falling from the plane is just an unimaginable horror. Better to go quick.

    • @ginabench1981
      @ginabench1981 Před rokem +4

      Along with the TWA crash some years ago.

  • @jakerajcsanyi2375
    @jakerajcsanyi2375 Před 2 lety +21

    my mom was a flight attendant for this exact plane and missed this day of the crash because of illnesses and i’m still in shock to this day. God bless and rest in peace to all 💜

  • @joecrammond6221
    @joecrammond6221 Před 2 lety +61

    hard to believe that under inflated tires ended up bringing this plane down, i know it was a combination of things but without the tires, these people would be alive today

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +17

      They knew how serious tire pressure is. Mechanic wanted to fix it...Management forbidden any repairs, and had the tire readings pencil whipped bc they wanted the plane on time!! Fuck, it's a high stakes gambling sport with airlines. Mechanics want to fix it, Management doesnt care bc they wont lose. Plane flies..makes money!! Plane crashes, the insurance will pay for it. Management cant be sued because an airline is a Corporation. They are untouchable. If the heat gets turned up, they bail with their "golden parachute" retirement or severance packages. Makes me fucking sick!!

    • @budwhite9591
      @budwhite9591 Před 2 lety

      No being without tires is what brought the plane down

    • @MUSTDOS
      @MUSTDOS Před 2 lety +1

      As some one who lived in Saudi Arabia, you can save your car tires by using nitrogen too; it makes a world of difference in the extreme heat and braking.

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MUSTDOS
      I used to do HVAC service. I did a lot of driving. One time I picked up a nail in my tire. I always had a 4' oxygen cylinder on my truck at all times. We used it too find leaks on large systems. Well it saved my ass..lol! The regulator could be adjusted so you could fill a tire in 2 secs. from flat..lol! You just needed to ck tire pressure before you drove off to make sure you didnt pump the tire to the point of blowing the tire off the rim.😅if you set the regulator to 40 psi, you were safe.

  • @JosieJOK
    @JosieJOK Před 2 lety +208

    Another aviation-focused channel posted a video about this crash just recently, but as usual, yours is much more detailed and thorough! Appreciate all your hard work!

  • @lombardo8
    @lombardo8 Před 2 lety +16

    My mate's mum was on this flight. And sadly another of my mate's mum was on Kenya Airways flight 431 thats crashed in January 2000. Both flights crashed shortly after take off. 😢

  • @odeiraoloap
    @odeiraoloap Před 2 lety +114

    So one of the primary factors of the crash was a *deliberately ignored mechanical issue and non-done maintenance driven by desire for profits.*
    *THIS* is why I am deathly scared of flying, especially with airlines having to "do maintenance" to all those parked planes before returning them to service. What if the next plane I fly on suffers the same fate as Flight 2120? 😭

    • @honolulu.spotter
      @honolulu.spotter Před 2 lety +14

      The chances are so rare, and plus, if they did this business practice, they would probably get so much negative publicity to the point where they’ll have to file for bankruptcy. So your safe. They won’t do that anymore because of negative publicity and pure smartness.

    • @admiralsnackbar69
      @admiralsnackbar69 Před 2 lety +20

      This airline not doing maintenance is what brought this plane down...so if an airline is doing maintenance on their aircraft all the time that is a good thing.

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 2 lety +5

      @@honolulu.spotter It doesn't mean it won't happen
      It could happen again in the future

    • @metallikat05
      @metallikat05 Před 2 lety +2

      I’ve never flown commercially, and I watch videos and documentaries about airline crashes all the time, as I find them fascinating. That said, I’m still not afraid to fly, because I understand the statistics.

    • @afghan2641
      @afghan2641 Před 2 lety +2

      1 in 5,000,000

  • @EpicJoshua314
    @EpicJoshua314 Před 2 lety +35

    Reading the final report, witnesses reported that seconds before the crash the fuselage broke into two pieces and the forward section of the airplane hit the ground at a 70* nose down angle.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 Před 2 lety +22

    What a bloody disaster... And the head of that airline escaped justice and fled to Brasil...

    • @jdrosy4414
      @jdrosy4414 Před 2 lety +8

      Sad but true. However, where he's going they'll be justice & heard the place is mighty hot, unforgiving & erternal 🔥

    • @jdrosy4414
      @jdrosy4414 Před 2 lety +5

      @@finalinstinct2716 totally agree, lost a family friend on that flight, 23 year old stewardess. Plus all those poor souls on board who met the same demise at the hands of a greedy POS. Yes, he will face justice, bet on it.

    • @finalinstinct2716
      @finalinstinct2716 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jdrosy4414 I am truly sorry for your loss, my deepest condolences to you and all the families that lost their loved ones. Rest assured they will all be rewarded even though it may seem like a loss to us, unlike the fate for those responsible and their cowardly acts of escaping and claiming bankruptcy and commiting fraud.

    • @jdrosy4414
      @jdrosy4414 Před 2 lety +3

      @@finalinstinct2716 thank you friend, it's been 30 years & often think what could have been for her as well as the other souls. They were taken so quickly & senseless. It sickens & saddens me to know what heartless people there are, taking dirty money over flesh, blood & spirit. However, the good Lord don't pay on Fridays but when He does, judgment is precise. Again, thanks for your kind words, stay well 😊

  • @kaydee8300
    @kaydee8300 Před 2 lety +24

    I still remember this tragic accident when I was young kid going home from school and plenty of people are by the fence looking at what is left of the crash…
    it was such a sad moment, additionally many families had to find bodies or part of bodies on their roof and on their streets as passengers started falling off the plain.

  • @Rahkoi
    @Rahkoi Před 2 lety +29

    What a nightmare. May the victims rest in peace.

  • @jackieronaldwayerston6723

    People onboard trapped in a flying coffin of smoke and fire in the air.
    Burning corpses and flaming debris raining down from aircraft even before it even hit the ground.
    And all of this fiery crash was caused by a couple of flat tyres.
    The company had ONE job to maintain the aircraft. Of course not only they failed, they falsified the documents of the not-maintenance.
    Oh yeah, BTW thank you for uploading a video (and also particularly a simulation) of this crash.
    After watching an Air Crash Investigation episode of this tragedy, I tried for quite some time finding more videos about it, but they were scarce (although there was a video showing a simulation of the crash made via, well... uhhh, Besiege, but I couldn't find that video anymore).

  • @maxb4074
    @maxb4074 Před 2 lety +170

    This blind rush to make $ is exactly why airlines should not rush for "return to normal" during an active world pandemic, which is not over yet. Only bad consequences are likely to happen for the airlines and the flying public. Not a crash, but bad consequences.

    • @bigballz4u
      @bigballz4u Před 2 lety +15

      Yeah, so instead of people flying, they will drive, which is far more dangerous than flying, even with this "pandemic." If you think about it, they should get back to normal ASAP!

    • @timmygressler7468
      @timmygressler7468 Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, we are really getting this stupid , holy hell help us

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bigballz4u It has to be seen as a whole. More accidents are possible but less disease is spread. There is not a single way that is best for every circumstance.

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 if you watch the same news channels that say children are dying like crazy and that we need to wear masks even if vaccinated you will also hear them say that flying isn’t that bad, unless they have changed their tune on that as well. As of a year ago biden said you shouldn’t get a shot now that’s changed, they said if you are vaccinated it’s all good, now that’s changed, and you say driving will spread less disease but I don’t think you thought about it as a whole either. Those people driving across the country are stopping at gas stations and restaurants every few hours and contacting others going in every other direction. I don’t think COVID is a hoax I know people have died from it but how is our economy supposed to live if we don’t do shit and pay people to stay at home forever? We have to get back to normal and if you listen to those same people they make it sound like we are all dying even though we are following all these rules and staying home. Or they blame another political party for not following the rules. Both sides lie to suit their needs

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +2

      @@alanluscombe8a553
      Each political party is just a side of the same corroded coin.👹😡

  • @AidenTheAviator
    @AidenTheAviator Před 2 lety +37

    Another great video, well done mate. An interesting accident that I think you should do eventually is Air Canada Flight 621 in July of 1970. A DC-8-63 (Similar to Nationair 2120) was on approach to Toronto, Canada with 109 people on board. Moments before landing, the First Officer unintentionally deployed the spoilers rather then simply arming them. This caused the plane to hit the runway hard and caused one of the engines to break off, the pilots managed to perform a go around but the fuel leaking from the plane ignited and eventually caused a series of explosions that destroyed nearly the entire right wing, the plane went into a sharp nose dive before crashing into a field, killing everyone on board. It's a prime example of pilots going against company procedures and doing whatever suits their needs. The captain and first officer had fears that arming the spoilers during the pre-landing checklist increased the risk of them deploying in mid-air. So the captain would usually arm the spoilers during the landing flare while the First Officer would deploy them manually on touchdown. but on Flight 621, the Captain told the First Officer to arm them on the flare. Out of habit, the First Officer accidentally fully deployed the spoilers rather then arming them.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Před 2 lety +2

      kinda weird that the four worst disasters involving Canadian airlines (Arrow Air 1285, Nationair 2120, Air Canada 621, Trans-Canada 831) all involved a DC-8. and none of them had survivors.

  • @germanname1990
    @germanname1990 Před 2 lety +25

    I stated in another video about this incident that was recently uploaded here that this ranks up there, along with TWA 800, as one of the most disturbing aircraft accidents ever to occur. I continue to think about how awful it must've been for everyone on board Flight 800 and Flight 2120. I didn't know about what happened to some of those on board Flight 2120 before watching this, and it was dreadful, horrifying, and very difficult to listen to.

  • @XLeon_S_KennedyX
    @XLeon_S_KennedyX Před 2 lety +31

    Entire accident is avoidable if the tires are inflated at the correct specification instead the airline choose to save $$ over the lives of the entire people inside the plane. Hope those involved the cause of the accident will not sleep soundly for their rest of their miserable pathetic lives!!!

  • @nyanbinary1717
    @nyanbinary1717 Před 2 lety +14

    I’ve found it very hard to find information about this accident, so I’m happy you covered it!

  • @dew9103
    @dew9103 Před 2 lety +34

    "For many passengers on board flight 2120, this was the ending of a once in a lifetime trip." I'm pretty sure that it is for all of them

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Před 2 lety +11

      This wasn't even about getting to the Hajj on time, it was about going home after all had attended it. There should not have been this crazy pressure. Couldn't even send in proper tires, let alone another plane? When they could have known that rolling a blown tire in the super hot weather could raise it to literal burning temperature? SMH.
      I'm not Islamic, do not believe in it, but still wouldn't wish such a disaster on this crowd. It reflected badly on the west. God have mercy.

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 Před 2 lety +5

      @@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 right? There is no need for the rush on this trip back home but corporate greed decided to push it anyway..

  • @allanferguson8810
    @allanferguson8810 Před 2 lety +4

    31 years ago today we lost our friends. Still missed, still loved IFD Kay Smith. Your friend Allan

  • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
    @SuperNuclearUnicorn Před 2 lety +14

    Ah, my favourite channel to listen to while I go to sleep uploads right on time. Always love your work!

  • @Blessan_
    @Blessan_ Před 2 lety +10

    This breakdown is very heavily informative, good job on these videos!

  • @islamicllamas8142
    @islamicllamas8142 Před 2 lety +8

    Thank you for posting this! Helps get me through my work day. Put on some ear buds and listen

  • @MrWaheedulHaque
    @MrWaheedulHaque Před 2 lety +68

    Silly crash was very avoidable, this is what happens when people try rush safety procedures, not acceptable, im glad they went out of business, also the pilots should have aborted takeoff when their tyres popped, again i feel the company might have been applying pressure to them to keep flying to keep on schedules

    • @Elzrydo
      @Elzrydo Před 2 lety +15

      "Silly" crash? That's a literal understatement of what happened

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +4

      Management had the flight crews " tits in a wringer" over keeping to the schedule come Hell or high water. Hell won that battle in spades.

    • @MaddoxKillgore
      @MaddoxKillgore Před 2 lety +2

      If the pilots were African, the comments would be harsher. They like to taunt Africans.

    • @patrickmollohan3082
      @patrickmollohan3082 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MaddoxKillgore
      Excuse me, who is going to taunt African Americans?
      These kind of posts seem to start more crap, than they solve anything.
      If this comment makes you believe that I'm racist..that's on you sir.

    • @MaddoxKillgore
      @MaddoxKillgore Před 2 lety +7

      @@patrickmollohan3082 I'm talking about African airlines. Any time they crash people tend to be overly critical, yet these errors occur everywhere.
      They do things like question the competence of the pilots, and eventually dub them African before anything else.

  • @balazsvarga1823
    @balazsvarga1823 Před 2 lety +26

    I noticed a pattern about fires that can't be seen from the cockpit.
    Wouldn't it be easy to mount cameras looking ath the underside and onto the wing and tail fins, for the engineer to check?

    • @timmygressler7468
      @timmygressler7468 Před 2 lety +17

      Airbus is starting to install them very cameras, I'm sure Boeing will be next to install if not already

    • @iankemp2627
      @iankemp2627 Před 2 lety +6

      Easy, yes - cheap, no - therefore it will take time.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Před 2 lety +3

      So glad to hear this is finally starting to be actioned (even if slowly)... There just seem to have been so many accidents & serious incidents where this would help pilots pick up on hazards, or determine whether weird computer signals are due to genuine damage or a computer failure...?

    • @KSudS_
      @KSudS_ Před rokem

      2 tyres under inflated. this is corporate negligence.

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 Před 5 měsíci

      @@iankemp2627Camera systems themselves are incredibly cheap these days. Even for aviation applications. One of the problems is finding more space in the pilots already crowded and visually overwhelming cockpit to put a place to display things like underside, engine and tail facing cameras.

  • @joblow9250
    @joblow9250 Před 2 lety +4

    I love your videos and appreciate the research you put into them. Could listen to you for hours.🙂

  • @timothymartell5112
    @timothymartell5112 Před 2 lety +11

    I’m a regular listener every Saturday for a while now. I love the content! Have you ever thought about making a video on a railway disaster?

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 Před 2 lety +14

    As i mentioned on another flight channel about this incident, executives involved what a shock. (Sarcasm). As the saying goes "Money is the root of all evil", certainly sounds like it here.

  • @KOTalk
    @KOTalk Před 2 lety +3

    Here is is!! 😁😁 Been waiting for this

  • @louigee1450
    @louigee1450 Před 2 lety +6

    Amazing topic this week. Thanks again

  • @josephconnor2310
    @josephconnor2310 Před 2 lety +2

    Great detail and production on this horrific accident

  • @Vacaneu
    @Vacaneu Před 2 lety +1

    great video man 👍

  • @jaki8739
    @jaki8739 Před 2 lety +3

    Again a great explanation

  • @813sports5
    @813sports5 Před 2 lety +7

    First TheFlightChannel, then you. Wow. Both incredible videos.

  • @yasirmohammedali
    @yasirmohammedali Před 2 lety +1

    Hi ... Thanks for the video

  • @Eric_Hutton.1980
    @Eric_Hutton.1980 Před 2 lety +7

    Would you consider a video about Pan Am flight 7?

  • @javacup912
    @javacup912 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video. One small correction; the DC8 did not have speed brakes, but just flight and ground spoilers. Reverse thrust was used as designed, in lieu of the absence of speed brakes. The left wheel well houses the hydraulic reservoir and the aux electric hyd pump. Fire in that particular wheel well would have burned aileron and flap control cables, and when fire breached the cabin floor, the elevators and rudder cables would have burnt. So, no hydraulics and no cables, means no manual reversion either. Unfortunately, some airline management have no clue what it takes to operate an airplane, and are only concerned about the profits (and to this day). Glad they went out of business, but at a cost of so many lives, as well as the mechanic that paid the price. Extending the landing gear is a logical explanation for the fuselage break up, and it puts a lot of stress on the center box, and the box keeps the airplane together. What a preventable tragedy. When I flew the DC8 overseas, (FE) we carried two main, one nose tire and a brake in our flyaway kit. Took some bulk room in the cargo areas, but gave us peace of mind.

  • @Charger1917
    @Charger1917 Před rokem +3

    I had a sudden vision once
    So…. I was at Jeddah as an ATC and
    I suddenly saw a plane up in flames
    So I told the plane to land on any runway
    And then I saw flaming bodies falling from the aircraft
    And it would fall apart peice by peice
    And then it would explode over Jeddah
    Kind of a combo of Nationair 2120 and Trans World Airlines 800

  • @tdestroyer1882
    @tdestroyer1882 Před 2 lety +10

    Amazing video! I cant imagine how horrifying it would’ve been to be on the flight

  • @Monothefox
    @Monothefox Před 2 lety +41

    There seem to have been an awful lot of DC-8 accidents. Were these planes really that common (like the 737), or did they suffer from an abnormally high accident rate?

    • @00muinamir
      @00muinamir Před 2 lety +13

      You're not wrong, they were involved in a lot of accidents. I think it doesn't help that they were often involved in the "worst accident ever" for several countries.

    • @kcindc5539
      @kcindc5539 Před 2 lety +33

      Into the 90’s there were a ton of geriatric DC-8’s still flying. Their first-world owners had long since retired four engined narrow bodies in favor of twinjets. Since they still had life in them they wound up in the fleets of third-rate charter outfits contract cargo haulers. Most of those 25-30 year old aircraft were still airworthy but they’re expensive to maintain, and none of these outfits had that kind of money. Repairs (if done at all) were minimal, often with salvaged parts, and consumables like tires were ignored until they basically fell off the wheels. At the same time the loooooong DC-8 Super 63 variant in particular had such a high passenger capacity for a narrow-body (250 pax), they were hugely popular among overseas charter companies. That doesn’t mean they took good care of those birds, as was the case here. They were all on borrowed time.

    • @kuro9410_ilust
      @kuro9410_ilust Před 2 lety +7

      doesn't help the fact that it's old plane so ineviatbly maintaining the aircraft is expensive, and also MD had a lot of history of cutting corners in the first place

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Před 2 lety +4

      @@kuro9410_ilust that was only with the DC-10, but even then the DC-10 was actually a safer airplane than the 747. I know, hard to believe.

    • @budwhite9591
      @budwhite9591 Před 2 lety +3

      @@GiordanDiodato but hey they outsold the LC1011. High five for McDonald Douglas! Who are still alive and well today building DC737 Max’s

  • @jamesx4952
    @jamesx4952 Před 2 lety +4

    YO I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO DO THIS VIDEO NOT SURE IF I DID.BUT I WATCHED THIS SHORT VIDEO ON THIS WAYS BACK YOUR AN AMAZING CZcamsR KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

  • @monikathomas4985
    @monikathomas4985 Před 2 lety +4

    The fact that corporate heads pushed this plane to operate and caused this is disguising! They should all be in jail

  • @eucliduschaumeau8813
    @eucliduschaumeau8813 Před 2 lety +4

    When they lowered the gear, the fire would have "blowtorched" and there was no positive outcome after that.

  • @AlternateCesarT
    @AlternateCesarT Před 2 lety

    Great we get more nation air/nigeria airways 2120 crash videos.

  • @sintes88
    @sintes88 Před 2 lety +6

    So how did they expect to land with blown landing gear? It's baffling they didn't abort the take-off.

    • @Samsonschizovsky76
      @Samsonschizovsky76 Před 2 lety +1

      During the takeoff, there was no indication of any problems, it was only when airborne when the crew noticed problems

    • @spongebubatz
      @spongebubatz Před 2 lety

      Landing with a blown tire is, although of course not completely safe, still doable and an option

    • @tabby73
      @tabby73 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Samsonschizovsky76 That's not true. At 6:00 it is said that they were still rolling when the pilots heard the tires blow but took off anyway. It could be of course, that their speed was to high already too abort at that point.

    • @admiralsnackbar69
      @admiralsnackbar69 Před 2 lety +9

      If they were at V1 they can't abort takeoff

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 Před rokem +1

      The field length calculation method the flight manual is based on accounts for a time delay in taking action to reject the takeoff following a decision made right at V1. As well, the flight-test demonstrated stopping distance has a big factor of safety slapped on it by the FAA calculation method... and no "credit" given for the reverse thrust which would be available in most instances. So there can be a significant (though unknown to the pilots) amount of time past V1 during which a takeoff could be rejected, just in terms of the actual physics. In this instance, working to the negative side for stopping distance would be that the blown tire(s) were not available to provide braking force.

  • @malachi9690
    @malachi9690 Před 2 lety +2

    our hero has arrived

  • @jumaclo
    @jumaclo Před 2 lety +2

    This is the definition of a nightmare come true

  • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368

    I wonder how many lives Get-there-itis has claimed in the history of aviation.

    • @vixen4327
      @vixen4327 Před 2 lety +3

      Too many 😔

    • @teresajennings1243
      @teresajennings1243 Před 2 lety +3

      Way too many.

    • @erickamcc1701
      @erickamcc1701 Před 2 lety +7

      Too many. Even, Tenerife, the worst aviation accident had “get-it-there-itis” as a major contributing factor.

    • @tessabakker662
      @tessabakker662 Před 2 lety +1

      I don't think this was even Get-there-itis on behalf of the pilots, this was management incompetence and maintenance failure

  • @direxioner
    @direxioner Před 2 lety +2

    So random seeing a Finnair plane randomly on this video 😅 a Finn here binge watching your videos

  • @lauriepenner350
    @lauriepenner350 Před 2 lety +8

    You know that one patron is just paying to hear you say "Where Are My Cheetos" in your serious announcer voice.

  • @rossmartenak5517
    @rossmartenak5517 Před rokem +1

    How did the bad shape the tires where in escape detection by the Flight Engineer, during the preflight exterior aircraft walk-around inspection?

  • @joaquinlezcano2372
    @joaquinlezcano2372 Před rokem +1

    You know was the most infuriating thing about that? For most of the passengers was the first time ever they ever fly a plane. Imagine the families getting traumatized to fly ever again

  • @alicelopes4693
    @alicelopes4693 Před 2 lety +2

    I wasn't prepared for the sight of the Concorde 💔🐸 *cries in french*

  • @lemmysandberg4516
    @lemmysandberg4516 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm flying out in 3 days... well at least I'm flying with SAS at Arlanda, and those both have very good safety records.

  • @Chaz-videocreator
    @Chaz-videocreator Před 6 měsíci

    The passengers melted and stuck to the seats and walls?! 🤮
    That's about as disgusting as the actions of the crew involved in the maintenance of Flight 2120!

  • @walterfortner849
    @walterfortner849 Před 11 měsíci +1

    A little more detail as to how the investigators discovered the altered tire pressure entries...
    As per standard aviation investigation procedure, it is routine to find and review all paperwork associated with the tail number, especially leading up to the accident flight.
    Upon examination of the paperwork that the pilot had received and accepted as proof of aircraft flight worthiness, the investigators located the pre-flight ground maintenance entries listing the actual pressure of each tire as measured upon final check, where each tire's pressure is certified as accepted if within min and max limits.
    As is routine for all paperwork entries particular to the tail number and flight to be hand written in ink, the investigators more closely examined the pressure entries and noted potentially misleading alterations made to the pressures of at least two suspect tires, both on the same landing gear.
    The investigators employed the services of a document forgery specialist who then used a laser light source at different wavelengths as a way to differentiate between different ink formulas as well as ink batches that will fluoresce more or less at different wavelengths.
    As noted in the final report, ground maintenance had altered the pressure entries of the two suspect tires to make it appear that they were within the expected range while they were actually below the minimum, e.g. given a minimum acceptable pressure of 170 psi and ground maintenance entering 160 psi as measured, someone using a different pen altered the top of the '6' to make it appear as an '8', thus making the tire appear acceptable at 180 psi.
    It was likely assumed by ground maintenance that the tires were good enough for this flight and did not want to delay the departure by bringing out the pieces of equipment required for tire pressurization, letting the next ground crew handle topping it off as it were.
    Keep in mind that the tires of an airplane require not only much higher pressures compared to automotive tires, i.e.180 psi vs. 32 psi, but they also require nitrogen rather than air for pressurization since the oxygen degrades rubber over time but more importantly would be a potential source of oxygen that could feed a fire.
    In the end, the country whose ground maintenance was sourced accepted the final report's findings and conclusions but did not formally investigate the matter further to narrow down the individual(s) responsible.

  • @JamesJones-yj8ku
    @JamesJones-yj8ku Před 25 dny

    I don’t understand why they think they have to go back to the airport when flying over the desert. What I’ve read is if a plane has a fire on board you only have about 8 minutes. They was only at 2000 ft. Get the dam plane on the ground any unoccupied place.

  • @abdullah3739
    @abdullah3739 Před 2 lety +6

    الله يرحم الركاب كانو يرجعون مكملين الحج

    • @mathis8007
      @mathis8007 Před 2 lety +1

      I am a Christian but I believe this is similar as a baptism, it will grant you the mercy of god upon your death if you lived a sin free life

  • @nilamelody
    @nilamelody Před 2 lety +3

    Waiting for that South African Airways flight 295 video.

  • @Cirelgasp
    @Cirelgasp Před 2 lety

    just commenting to be early,but still,thats sad.

  • @ascensionvaldes1412
    @ascensionvaldes1412 Před 2 lety +6

    how many accidents caused by the need to arrive on time🤦

    • @BN-uh8cm
      @BN-uh8cm Před 2 lety +2

      A lot of them at this point it wouldn't even be surprising

  • @georgeconway4360
    @georgeconway4360 Před 2 lety +3

    The prime reason for the accident was the Captain did not reject the takeoff when the first tire failed. The contributing factor was the Captain was relatively inexperienced in the DC8. The video mentions the speed brakes on the DC8. The DC8 didn’t have any speed brakes. It did have Spoilers which are similar but do not serve the same function. The DC8 uses in flight reverse thrust rather than speed brakes. Normally you can not open a door in flight because of pressurizations. Since it was reported they could not pressurize it would be possible to open a door or emergency exit. Long ago in the 1960s-70s when the F/O was flying the F/O could and would perform a rejected take off because the F/O had his hand on the throttles until V1. That was changed so the Captain always had his hand on the throttles until V1. The tire failure for this airplane occurred around 50 Kts and there was no excuse to continue. The Captain made a stupid fatal mistake causing deaths of every occupant including himself.

    • @alexandercolvin4547
      @alexandercolvin4547 Před 10 měsíci

      Then again tho, he was able to get essentially a burning Pringles can within 2 miles of the runway, even though he had no control services apart from trim tabs and throttle differential (perhaps a bit of ailerons) and I’m pretty sure you can’t tell that a tire has burst on an aircraft. The real fault was the maintenance crew, who didn’t inflate tires (also the captain was never informed about the tires)

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 Před 10 měsíci

      @@alexandercolvin4547 The prime cause of the accident was the crew did not reject when they had the first tire failure. The crew and the airline had little experience in large jet aircraft. They knew they had a tire failure at 50 knots. They all died because they didn’t have the experience to make the correct choice.

    • @alexandercolvin4547
      @alexandercolvin4547 Před 10 měsíci

      @@georgeconway4360 I think we can agree that the prime cause of the accident was the maintinece crews in accra cutting costs, i can see hat your saying as combined the cre nly has 2550 hours on the dc-8 (but i can assume if nationair traied them on the dc8 thy would train them on tire blowouts). and also with 2550 flight hours combined, they got a plane, by using noting but trim tabs, throttle differential and the smallest bit of ailerons, were able to line up what was essentially a buring skleteon to the runway. and perhaps if they climbed slightly higher and they knew about the gear, they couldve made a belly landing and made it.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 Před 10 měsíci

      @@alexandercolvin4547 They should have stopped at 50 knots. Landing gear can get very hot when everything is as it should be. Airlines don’t train for blowouts, that comes with experience. I was the F/O on a DC8-61 at max weight taking off from an airport in southern Spain for Lomé, in Togo West Africa. At about V1 minus 15 knots we had a tire failure. I called the failure, but the Captain just continued and I called V1 and Rotate. We advised ATC and after a long while they came back and said they found no evidence of a failure. I talked to to the Captain about rejecting and the Captain said we would not be able to stop with the tire failure. Halfway across the Sahara the SELCAL went off from Berna Radio with a company message that we had blown a tire and divert to Accra, Ghana. We had blown two tires and had damaged to the wheel well.

  • @Greatanotherchannel
    @Greatanotherchannel Před 2 lety +2

    Saudia and this one are horrifying

  • @ginnykang943
    @ginnykang943 Před 2 lety +3

    I think this accident was also The Flight Channel's most recent post as well. Talk about a coincidence.

  • @takase5037
    @takase5037 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank god this airline don't exist anymore

  • @alf513
    @alf513 Před rokem

    Could the fire on the landing gear have been put out if they continued flying with the gear down in the open air?

  • @teresajennings1243
    @teresajennings1243 Před 2 lety +3

    Takeoff should have been aborted when pilots heard the pop. Well, hindsight is 20/20. RIP to all who died in this crash.

  • @Weep_TTV
    @Weep_TTV Před 2 lety +3

    -me wanting to watch more and more videos> -realizing they’re based off true stories
    -still wanting more

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 Před 6 měsíci

    Unfortunately, Canadian airlines haven't exactly had a great history in terms of aircraft safety.......
    Back when I was about 10 or 11, in mid 80's, my Mum flew on a 747-200 with a Canadian airline called Wardair to see her brother in Canada, they were absolutely rubbish.
    This aircraft flew from Stansted Airport when you could almost saunter up to the aircraft, the airport was really small back then.

  • @virginiaviola5097
    @virginiaviola5097 Před rokem

    That’s just sad.

  • @LearnCompositionOnline
    @LearnCompositionOnline Před 8 měsíci

    Pls write when was this

  • @Braden366
    @Braden366 Před 2 lety

    Also I don't understand, if the controllers are monitoring the planes taking off, one of them would have spotted the planes burning wheel as it took off, told the crew that they had fire on there landing gear, then the crew returns.

  • @Handlename31
    @Handlename31 Před 2 lety

    Your videos are better.

  • @zew1414
    @zew1414 Před 2 lety +1

    But did the mechanic actually take the flight? I've been a mechanic for 27 years, and knowing what he knew, I not only wouldn't get on but I would protested the flight even try and fly

  • @lyzario1602
    @lyzario1602 Před 2 lety +1

    Lesson learned: DONT WATCH THIS AT NIGHT it will give you nightmares

  • @bugbankey5947
    @bugbankey5947 Před 2 lety

    How many people can nation air Boeing 747-200 carry?

  • @edwinolandag4846
    @edwinolandag4846 Před 2 lety +2

    I was working in Jeddah in a car maintenance workshop close to Jeddah airport and witness the last horrifying moments of this plane crash accident. I witness the plane was on fire at the rear portion, as it pass overhead from the workshop I noticed the plane door was opened and some passengers jumped off the plane as the fire continues and slightly bend the fuselage at the middle portion. It looks like the plane went for a go around back to the airport due to the fire . While on its descend for a landing approach and align to the runway . The plane apparently loss control and nose dives as it passes the airport perimeter fence and the highway ...it hit the ground i( a few meters to the runway).. it exploded with a big flames of fire and thick black mushroom like..no one survives. A heart breaking incident where all passengers cannot do anything .

  • @mickdunne981
    @mickdunne981 Před 2 lety +2

    Omg the poor passengers what a horrible way to die mat they RIP 🙏

  • @DaemonetteLeilu19
    @DaemonetteLeilu19 Před 2 lety

    As soon as i heard that they retracted the landing gear, i was ohhhhhhhh sh*t 😰

  • @illumiNOTme326
    @illumiNOTme326 Před 2 lety +1

    RIP to all who perished in this horrific accident.

    • @GCarty80
      @GCarty80 Před 14 dny

      Or perhaps we should use the Muslim equivalent: "Inna illahi wa inna ilayhi raji`oon" (We belong to God and to him we shall return).

  • @williampeaslee9857
    @williampeaslee9857 Před 8 měsíci

    Was anyone involved in this case also involved in the investigation of Saudia flight 163? Both were cases of flights catching fire shortly after takeoff and there could have been similarities between the two incidents.

  • @ryanle9070
    @ryanle9070 Před 2 lety

    Can u make avianca flight 011

  • @autumnleaves2766
    @autumnleaves2766 Před rokem

    Shocking that Nationair weren't prepared to replace the tyres. The mechanic should have told the Captain about the problem with the tyres. The Captain should have aborted the take off when they heard the tyres pop. The flight crew clearly felt under pressure to get going on time. Retracting the landing gear then made the whole situation worse. An appalling air crash that should not have happened. Safety of all on board must always come first.

    • @GCarty80
      @GCarty80 Před 14 dny

      Would just properly _inflating_ the tyres have been enough?

  • @Show_quality_trash
    @Show_quality_trash Před 2 lety +1

    Can you do a video on MH17?

  • @antoniobranch
    @antoniobranch Před měsícem

    I believe some of the passengers opened the emergency wing hatch(s) to escape the fire.

  • @Payne_
    @Payne_ Před rokem

    Holy shit😮😮😮

  • @bigballz4u
    @bigballz4u Před 2 lety +5

    Disaster Breakdown is still looking for his Cheetos to this day.

  • @stuartlee6622
    @stuartlee6622 Před 2 lety +1

    Northwest flight 710, PLEASE.

  • @kdfulton3152
    @kdfulton3152 Před 2 lety +2

    Doesn’t ATC share any responsibility for not keeping eyes on the jet taking off?

  • @nilstragelehn4532
    @nilstragelehn4532 Před 2 lety +2

    All those people could be still alive

  • @zew1414
    @zew1414 Před 2 lety

    Also the ATC didn't notice and tell them they're wheels were on fire???

  • @andrefiset3569
    @andrefiset3569 Před 2 lety

    I worked in in the aircraft industry for years and i knew a guy who work on airplanes who fly poor muslims for their only pilgrimage to Mecca. He said about these peoples; i respect them but many had never been in a bus before so they travel in old planes.

  • @jayrandolph9328
    @jayrandolph9328 Před 6 měsíci

    Dont airports have spotters watching every takeoff and landing for like...this *exact* reason?!

  • @joynakibuuka2848
    @joynakibuuka2848 Před 2 lety

    Why do pilots delay when they hear of än issue, if

  • @aaronmichaels807
    @aaronmichaels807 Před měsícem

    Lord Jesus, what a horrible nightmare.

  • @alderlake12th
    @alderlake12th Před 2 lety

    Gears are?????

  • @honeydate
    @honeydate Před rokem

    the most horrifying and gruesome plane crash in history!