First Time Reading DUNE || Book Review
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- My review and opinions on Frank Herbert's DUNE
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in star wars: i hate sand
in dune : sand so good , the entire galaxy wants it
Or at least the worm poop on the sand.
@@KujoPainting Dune: i am joining the war on drugs on the side of the drug dealers
I mean spice is very valuable drug in star wars as well, it's among tye things star wars took from Dune
its an allegory for oil and the middle east guys, i bet you didn't know , i am very smart.! t. Frank Herbert
@@j.2512 shut up
The Books are so dense, I’m amazed that the Films were able to make the chapters of the story flow like they did.
Same. The books retain the philosophical and heady weight that can't really be portrayed on screen but the latest movies by Denis did a fantastic job capturing the essence of Dune
They are not, they are just boring, chapters go on and on with very little happening.
@@j.2512
Imagine being this wrong.
The whole 'Paul is the bad guy' claim people are making is a bit of an oversimplification of what Frank Herbert actually intended. Paul was intended to be a critique of 'Heroic' leaders that people blindly follow out of religious beliefs, their charisma, or because they have elevated the 'hero' into something that the hero themselves know they're not. It becomes much more apparent in the next book that Paul is disgusted by the things that he is pushed into doing by the religious movement he has been forced to lead but can't control, and by the way that people blindly serve him even though he knows the religion is hollow. Frank Herbert always intended Paul to be this heroic figure by the end of the first book only to deconstruct the idea in the second.
If you think this book is an deconstruction of the chosen one trophie wait until Dune Messiah
Paul is the ultimate Mary Sue
Oh man, can’t wait for your reactions and reviews towards the future books in the series if you do decide to continue.
Things just get crazier, but at the same time you are continuously blown away by this incredible story Frank Herbert created.
Especially looking forward to your review/reaction to God Emperor of Dune once you get to that book lol. My personal favorite, and definitely one of the most cerebral of his works
I found the movies very impressive. I like how it had me rooting for Paul and Jessica but at the same they became a bit scary. It kinda shows the shadowside of the powerfantasy. I also appreciate how they are direct descendants of the Baron who is extremely hateable and how the doctor both betrays and helps Leto. I like the nuanced way the story shows good/evil.
You made me curious for the books as they are somewhat different and more elaborate.
I like how the story of Dune is still relevant despite it's age. It must have a timeless quality.
Chani is described in the book as killing Fremen challengers to Paul within Sietch Tabr .. although yes, it's brief.
Shes more akin to a priestess or aid to the Reverend Mother in the text.
About your point of circumstances pushing someone into evil, you are right. In Spec Ops: The Line, the main character's friend gets murdered by a bunch of civilians in a war zone and the player has the option to open fire on them. And many players do that.
Hell yeah this is my favorite novel, first read it as a teenager and since then I've read it 15 more times (I'm 40 now). I've gotten a bunch of my berk friends to read it and i even got BerserkDude on youtube to check it out so it's great seeing you read it as well👌
Oh thats dope😮
Ryan please also read blood meridian and make a review of that too, wanna hear your take on it.
Yes! That would be a great fit for Ryan’s taste I think. As a non native english speaker it was a challenging read tho but unforgettable.
wendigoon top that video good
Books are good for you
Good books are good for you*
Reading in general
I heard Butcher's Crossing is even crazier
Depends on the book.
Dune is D tier , there's much better science fiction out there
Great video! I also read the book for the first time a couple days ago, and something I noticed is that Paul only likes chani because it’s something of his own doing… if that makes sense. Basically, he loves chani, someone he’s not supposed to love as a fuck you to the Bene Gesserit, and paths he sees he’s going down. His love for chani is something he did out of his own free will
I think you'll love Children and God Emperor once you get to them
God emperor changes the way you see the world. So good.
In the book Chani does kill Freemen who come from different Freemen groups who want to challenge Paul. Paul has trained her in the Bene Geserit fighting style. He is concerned learning this and Chani explains that word will get out that Mua’dibs mate will out fight you before you can challenge Paul. It will cut down on challenges.
This is so cool I am a huge fan of dune read every book and it’s cool seeing one of my favorite CZcamsrs enjoy the dune universe.
Wow crazy! I've been reading this book too on and off for the past few weeks, only have 200 more pages to go and it's mind blowingly good. I hated the first Dune movie, then fell in love with the second movie, and when I heard of the direction the series goes I knew I had to read the books. My only real complaint is that getting into the world of dune was pretty complicated and I kept having to go to the encyclopedia for everything, until things finally started making more sense. Paul having the trip with the fremen after eating their food was scary, when it was stated that people that take spice typically push a lot of thoughts into their subconscious, but for Paul, whos mind was trained by his mother, a bene gesserit, and who was also on the way to becoming a mentat, the trip would have a huge effect on his mind compared to others.
The detail the author goes into is insane, how Paul saw all these different paths, that the cave was a nexus point to all these different possible futures, where Paul just wanted to sit down and do nothing because it was too much for his mind to handle, but then the realization that even sitting down could effect the future made it so that he could never really relax, and was constantly aware that any action could cause new paths to open, and others to close. Really really loving the book, as soon as I finish I'm jumping straight into Messiah.
SPOILER COMMENT:
May I also add that one of my favorite parts, if not my favorite part of Dune, was little Alia going Full Metal Jacket running around slitting the throats of the wounded. Fucking hard core man!
Given that you have read/ watched very similar things as I throughout your life, I feel that you should read some Cormac McCarthy, starting probably with the road, and then Blood Meridian, which is basically berserk as a western.
Need that Messiah review Now!!!!!
Apparently, FH wrote Dune in response to two US presidents. Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy. While people were rightfully quick to criticize Nixon, people had blind faith in Kennedy. He believed JFK to be the more dangerous leader as due to his popularity, few were willing to call out his BS.
He was absolutely correct in that. Nixon and Kennedy were quite similar in ways people don’t realize because Kennedy got good press. Kennedy even stole his election in a far shadier manner than Watergate.
I read Dune about a month ago (currently reading Children of Dune) and you’re about to make me read it again. It’s so damn good.
It's fun to try and find which tropes started in Dune.
Indeed😮
Mary Sue protagonist for example
@@j.2512you’re not the brightest, I see. 😂 because Paul doesn’t have an assassination attempt on his life, has his entire house exterminated, has to flee into the desert, has to flee before even getting used to his new home, has a sandworm chase him, has to live up to the legend of being a God, (something he never wanted) and along side all of that had major FLAWS that keep him moving on the path towards his jihad. But Paul is a Gary Sue??? Where?
I used to read about 3 scifi books a week ... i was also unemployed during that time.
I’m on Dune Messiah, crazy good series
I too feel Jessica is the main character of the book. She did things out of her own will going against BG and other etc. Her character seems to have more agency than Paul. Loved her in the book
Thank you Ryan!
Man I am REALLY considering getting into the Dune books. I'm not a quick reader, so the fact there's 7 of them does intimidate me, but I can't stop thinking about this story since watching part 2 in the cinema. I might just have to go for it.
Definitely do it. It gets weirder and crazier. Doesn't end with Paul.
@nc1901 I have ordered the first book. Looking fwd to it.
@nc1901
I have now the book
However, I am on page 13 @nc1901
@@allahalkareem8055how’s it been going? What do you think so far?
Its going to be interesting to watch as you read the other books. I think your analysis won't change much as you progress but will be refined a bit. Things start getting wacky after the 2nd book. One of my top 5 book series I've ever read. And the Paul actor must be very difficult to cast. Someone who can be a semi-innocent 15 year old -> battle hardened, jihad starting, cold blooded dude in a couple hours of film..
Awesome man, Dune is really breaking through to new audiences right now. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Messiah, it’s a lot shorter but it’s been controversial since it released!
Im glad you enjoyed it! Dont forget paul was also a mentat. Basically, it's a human computer. Some people say the next books arent the same but i think there are some ideas in there you will enjoy.
Glad you read dune. The movies are spectacular too. Im kinda new on it also. I saw the old movie as a kid. So when i saw a remake was coming i studied up on the lore and reading. One of the best movies and books in my opinion.
Don’t let the cowards talking you out or the work of Brian Herbert and Kevin j Anderson I think they did an excellent job
Chani kills a Fremen who came to challenge Paul, she then made it a new policy that any Fremen challenger who wanted to fight Paul to the death had to fight her first. Also Jessica only pushes the religious stuff when first meeting Stilgar and tribe. Every other time during or after the time skip, she is warning Paul to not lean into religion so much because its dangerous.
The books 📚 are usually better than the movies, because they are so much more complex and detailed. I do think that they have done a great job adapting the books into film given time constraints.
Have you read all the books? I have watched Dune 2 on a MEGA screen in the cinema. This is an experience hard to beat!
@@allahalkareem8055 movies are amazing but they still don't surpass the book. The most struggle in movies in my opinion was rough pacing which the books don't struggle with
@MultiQwasar
I am going to buy the Dune books but I am still intimidated, even though I will read them!
@@allahalkareem8055 i highly recommend an audiobook with a good voice actor. Thats how i started and it made it much easier to follow the story and dialoges
Start with the first book 📕 and take it one page, chapter at a time. No pressure. You got this.
Love dunes heady concepts and high sci fi lore, even picked up the first novel during the pandemic. Never did finish it, really have to now because I ADORED part 1. Still need to watch the weirdo david lynch version too!
This makes me happy! Hey, even if the movies got you into it, we approve! Heck the 84 movie got me to read Dune when I was a kid! I have never looked back! My favorite series hands down!
My boyyy ryann looking good bro no diddy
😳
@@RealLifeRyan no diddy basically means no homo lol
no diddy?
no donkey?
no dixie?
no kiddy?
no funky?
no chunky?
@@mrsticky005 no dweebs?
The thumbnail of this upload
is BADASS
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe"
or as the most recent adaption states:
"Power over spice, is power over all"
I like the first quote, but the second one really fits the theme of the second movie. This is war for spice
I think if you found this one easy to follow despite the few complex plans and concepts left out of the films you’ll find the rest of the series easy to follow at the very least. They don’t get significantly more complex, though of course the plots and writing change.
I love Frank Herbert's writing, the DUNE saga is phenomenal, at least the first 4 books, I am waiting for my Heretics of Dune copy. I can't wait.
i love dune awsome that you read it
Nice to see you adding book reviews to your ever-growing repertoire, and what a great way to start with Dune (hopefully, it will be also algoritm friendly given the success of the recent movie adaptation).
I have the feeling that you will enjoy the direct sequel Dune Messiah, which good news is much shorter and quick to read.
But if you'll go on with the series, I am looking forward to your review of God-Emperor later this year. 🪱😁
It sounds so complicated, all these weird names, in other reviews of the movie I hadn’t got a clue what they were talking about haha.
I've started it too and it is so good. But I haven't finished yet. Even the first one
God Emperor of dune is the best.
I can't wait for you to read God Emperor of Dune. Everyone who reads the Frank Herbert Dune books considers it to be the best (or near best) or is completely alienated by it.
I plan on reading all the books I also got into them through the movies I started buying the books
you should review the dark tower, I can see them behind you fellow gunslinger :D
Gender swapping Kynes worked in the movie, but it also doesn't really fit into literary Dune because gender roles are heavily entrenched which is one of the reasons the Bene Gesseritt exist. The BG give women a place of power within the strict feudal system. The Fremen seem a bit more freeform meritocracy but not entirely. I do feel like a longer form series of Dune would want to keep a male Kynes to highlight the feudal overtone of the Duneiverse.
I hope one day we get a proper adaptation of the entire saga in a long tv series.
please read on the books only get better my favorite being book 5 God Emperor of Dune.
I’ve watched the Despot of Antrims video about these new movies and he loves them. He just did a really long video about the second movie and it sounded like a great movie. But I don’t watch any movies anymore so I won’t bother watching it.
should i read the book first or watch the movie then jump into the book
I would advise you to read the first two books, before you go into the films. Otherwise you might get a wrong idea about the story. The films aren't quite as nuanced as the novels. However, they are far less dialogue-heavy and bring images to the screen that are completed in a few sentences in the book.
I honestly feel really bad for Paul. I think his character development is tragicly sad
My favorite part of DUNE: DUKE'EM
was when the villain said
"SPICE TO MEET YOU, DUNEMAN!"
I highly recommend the witcher books and the vampire hunter d novels
The witcher was the author's Elric of Melnibone's fanfiction bootleg
The day has finally come!
Never read the books. Never really watched the movies (old or new)... I did watch about the first 10 minutes of the first movie and was bored to tears by it lol could have just been bad timing for me to sit down and watch it though. I'm watching this review to see if I want to try watching it again. If I like the movie, I'll probably read the books
Liking and commenting on the video but coming back later cause I still haven't finished the first book 😭
It's a good ride & I am glad you are enjoying it
Do wheel of time next.
After 5 more Dune Books…😊
Thumbnail is 🔥
Awesome im at work but cant wait to watch this later
Thanks Ryan! I look forward to your perspective on the Dune universe. Can't wait for you to meet the God Emperor!
Very cool 🎉😮🎉
Awesome
book 1 SLAPS but messiah is where it gets really fun imo
Neat. Glad you like it :)
Don't follow leaders :).
I think they changed Dr. Kynes in the movie because her sex and race aren't integral to her character
Dr. Kynes role is dramatically reduced tho.. he's effectively the leader of the Fremen in the books, father of Chani, and his dream of changing the face of Arrakis is one of the key themes.
Not to mention they outright didn't potray the dinner scene.
DV cutting Alia's role out of Part Two was the single greatest unforgivable sin from so many standpoints, and as much as I have tremendously enjoyed these new adaptations (and never really cared for the other ones), this among other questionable changes in Part Two really tarnished the overall experience for me and makes me wonder what the hell they have in store for Part Three...
Fingers crossed...
Dune is one of the greats. It inspired many series like Game Of Thrones. A great book series you might like, that’s also is inspire by Dune, is The Wheel Of Time. Slight spoilers, the main character is the chosen one but it’s the most realistic interpretation of the chosen one trope you’ll ever read. Also don’t watch the horrible Amazon show it’s actual garbage!
How many of y'all want Ryan to get back to One piece?
Na it’s for children