Plenty of Young Talent and Cap Space for Utah to Build with This Summer
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- It's Utah's turn.... It's going to be weird not having a team in Arizona next season.
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Please, keep thinking there is nothing to do in Utah, and please never move here. 🙏 -everyone in Utah.
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What a divorce... All Arizona got was Meruelo :-/
And the team name. Which is sad that’s all they get given where the team appears to be headed, but they will get an expansion draft if Meruelo gets it together.
And we'd rather have gotten rid of him.
Utah got what Arizona fans actually wanted, the team without Meruelo.
Wings fan, living in Utah for 25 years. There is a lot to do in Utah. Ski slopes, hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, and snowmobiling, reservoirs and lakes for boats. World class national parks. The cities have nice clean parks with lots of young families, the economy is good.
Whoever says this really should come spend a week here in the mountains.
Exactly. If all you care about is booze and hookers, then there’s nothing for you in Utah. If you care about quality of life and actually doing fun shit then Utah is awesome
@@DM-bu6to Even if you care about booze we have some phenomenal local spots.
LGRW
It's not that the market didn't work in AZ. It's the multiple crappy owners that didn't work.
Look at Atlanta. The market worked, but it was shitty owners who didn't.
Hockey will work in the desert but like you said bad ownership really doomed them
Both cities have populations of over four million, yet neither team could make a profit. The fans must bear some of the responsibility.
The fact that Florida turned around as soon as Vinnie Viola let the hockey men do hockey things (and got competent ones in place) shows that you don't even need to change owners, it's all about the owner realizing his point in the enterprise. Arizona never had that, their owners were either too lackadaisical or too meddlesome, and many seemed more concerned with monetizing the surrounding environment than with what the team was. Who knows, maybe none of them thought plopping a hockey team in a city of transplants could work, especially since the other franchises in the city have had their own attendance woes through long stretches of their existence. (Then again, what Arizona team HAS fielded a consistent winner in their history? The Cards got cursed with the Bidwills, the Suns pop up for about three years every decade then vanish and the D-Backs don't know what the hell they are - although a measure of props is warranted for that NL Pennant last year.)
@@gtl81199 no, it wont work in the desert.
Try again.
Utah is one of the best States for outdoor activities, everyone always refers to some sort of nightlife with clubs. No one talks about the 6 plus lakes within an hour of salt lake city, or the hundreds of miles of trails across the state. World class ski runs. Vegas is a 6 hour drive or an hour flight. And there are plenty of good places to eat and have a good evening downtown.
“There’s nothing to do in Salt Lake City.”
No one who has been to Salt Lake City has said this. That is an area PACKED with natural beauty and things to do. Skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking, hikes, trails, are SO immediate to the area. You’re right off the salt flats for speed week. There may be minimal party scene because of the LDS, but San Jose has a minimal party scene (because only boring people live in San Jose), and that team was fine for a big old bunch of years.
From San Jose and can confirm boring tech people live there. Also, hockey players are boring athletic people
I've heard it like this: There's nothing to do IN Salt Lake City, there's tons to do JUST OUTSIDE the city.
@TheBalloonHoax I threw away half of my 20s going to raves, clubs, and bars in SLC. Other than casinos, all the degenerate things you find in any city are very prevalent in downtown. Aside from Temple Square and City Creek, Downtown exists as a counter-culture to the LDS culture.
As for all the cool shit, it is outside of Salt Lake City.
There are parties, you just have to know the right people.
Team should be called Salt Lake Serpents
Some of the greatest national parks in the USA are in Utah. I'm sure people with plenty of disposable income can figure out how to have a good time.
The median age in Utah is 32, which is the youngest out of the 50 states plus Washington, DC by at least 3 years. The median age in Arizona in 39, which is fairly high. Live events, especially sports tend to draw a younger demographic.
I would actually disagree with this in reference to hockey. The costs of going to games tends to limit it to people in their 30s+ that are more financially stable. It's not like football games where people in their early 20s go out and tailgate before sitting in $15 seats located half a mile up from the field
I think the Utah team will have a terrific year owing to a mental boost from having stability and ownership that cares about the players.
Crouse is another great player coming to Utah on a great contract, huge part of the team
Thank you. So helpful. And as a Utah resident, we love the perception that there is nothing to do here. No one should ever move here. 😉
lol. I live in Salt Lake and if you want something to do here, it’s easy to find. Short of surfing and (legal) gambling, I don’t think there’s much you can’t do here you can do anywhere else
Well Utah more or less got the deluxe edition of a hockey team
Why? They're not pure garbage like years past, but far from a contending team.
@@kuningaskolassas4720no, but they have a ton of picks and cap space, plus an owner who wants to win. That's normally a pretty good combination.
@@csolivais1979 Most owners want to lose?
@@atlasfeynman1039 who said that?
@@atlasfeynman1039 I never said that. But, for instance, there have been, and probably are now, owners who don't really care if their team wins a cup, they own it more as a status symbol. Or, in Arizona, the owner wanted the team so he could start a sports book (gambling.) Id bet a dollar or two that if the law changed and he didn't need to own a sports team, he would sell if he could get the right price for it.
I really hate this. I don’t know when I’ll get over losing my team. The fact the future is so bright makes it all so much worse.
Super excited to see what the summer brings for the Utah NHL squad. Can’t wait for them to start play!!
You deserve 7.1 million for your knowledge and videos! You should on Sirius radio. And a weekly spot on espn!
No, don’t ever want him associated with ESPN ever.
RIP Yotes :( will probably root for Utah still though if they keep the core. Love those guys
Highly unlikely Ryan Smith blows it up. He usually tries to stay out the way as much as possible
That core is going to be great
Liam "Spicy Tuna" sure sounded like he wanted to stay with the team at that welcome party. I saw that he also led the team in penalty minutes. Every team needs a little spice!
I loved the coyotes goal horn. That howl was epic
As a recovering Coyotes fan, the only advice I have for the Utah fanbase is to not get too attached to any particular player - especially during a rebuild. I love Liam O-Brien but "Spicy Tuna" may not even be on the team next season (so fans will soon see what I mean). Hopefully Ryan Smith keeps GMBA (because he's a genius).
We have Danny Ainge carving up the Jazz the last couple years so we're definitely used to it
Utah and the Smith organization is going to treat the new team so well that it will be a desirable destination for players. That city is booming. Park city is 30 minutes away and it is one of the best celeberity destinations. It is on par with Aspen and Jackson Hole.
Great Summation! Thank you
There's literally a dinosaur called the Utahraptor. Just do it.
It seems so obvious! Yes, I've seen the arguments about the Toronto Raptors or the Ogden Raptors, but who cares? Other pro or amateur teams with the same name will NOT be a marketing/branding issue for anyone! This team SHOULD absolutely 💯 be named the Utah Raptors!
Thanks for making this video! We are so excited for September/October to come around so we can start cheering on the boys!!
They may not be able to use the name "Coyotes," but the "Utah Phoenix" is viable to rise from the ashes.
I honestly love this idea so much!
@@jerhaden It's not my idea, I heard it on Overdrive, but I also like it.
Thank you, I recently found you because of the move to Utah. With a 30-90 min drive from SLC you have skiing both water and snow, ATV trails, hiking, biking, wide variety of dining options, motor sports. We do not have a huge party scene but hey I’m ok with that. We love our outdoor activities
Like you said, they have that much cap space even with those anchors on them…holy
Could be a good rivalry with the Avs like the Jazz and the Nuggets.
Jazz and Nuggets don't have a rivalry. There really aren't any rivalries in the NBA anymore, which is another reason the NBA sucks
Yesssss. Guenther, Maccelli, Doan, Cooley, and Keller!!! All slept on
I haven't been an NBA fan since the mid '00s. I know nothing about the Jazz or the owners. But considering they just paid $1.2 billion for the team, I'm assuming the _Utah Generics_ aren't going to be a discount franchise anymore. If they're at least *willing* to spend to the cap, that's going to open up so many opportunities.
When a player had a limited no trade clause, you could reasonably assume Arizona was on that list. Those days are over. You could reasonably assume any notable UFA wouldn't go there. Those days are over. You could assume that they'd never take a run at a high profile RFA. Those days are over... especially since they have a zillion draft picks.
I'm not predicting Utah will find the immediate success like Colorado did, in moving from Quebec. But the situation in Utah changes everything. They have money to spend. The stink that was on Arizona from all the mismanagement is probably gone. And Armstrong won't have to factor in all the ways he's handcuffed anymore, when making deals or signing players. Again, they aren't guaranteed to be good next season, or even soon. But Arizona was in a position where every decision had to be perfect for the team to succeed. That's not the case anymore. They have wiggle room now, to take risks and make mistakes.
I'm pretty sure that the "there's nothing to do in Salt Lake City" line is code for "Salt Lake hasn't got any good places to drink." I don't know if that's true or not - I expect it's probably true that in terms of numbers per population it's pretty sparse, and the nightclub scene is probably not as strong as you'd find in another similarly sized city. I mean, I don't drink so I've never been looking for such places myself, so I could be wrong. And I know that Utah in general tends to be more restrictive of anything to do with alcohol than any other state (though it has loosened up somewhat over the last 20 years or so). But if you're looking for that sort of thing, and especially if you're making the kind of money the average NHL player makes, I'd be surprised if you can't find enough good places to keep you happy. And if your life doesn't revolve entirely around drinking SLC compares quite favorably to pretty much any mid-sized city in terms of things to do. That's aside from the fact that it's probably way above average when it comes to outdoor activities and natural beauty of the surroundings.
As a 23 year old who lives in Utah and doesn't drink (not for religious reasons, I just don't like alcohol) I think it says a lot about our society when people say they wouldn't want to live somewhere because they can't wasted on a nightly basis, lmao
People that say there's nothing to do in Utah likely have either never been, or went there 20+ years ago, or have only been to the airport.
The UT Scrabblers! Genius!
12,000 unobstructed hockey seats and about 16,000 for hockey total. So, yes the Mullet Arena era had to end.
I live in Utah, and am all in for supporting this team. The only player that sticks out to me when thinking about this team the last few weeks is Spicy tuna. thats who most people out here remember from that event. Not that it would hurt them by letting him go elsewhere but I do think It would go a long way here in utah to have him from a marketing stand point. A hard working drop the gloves guy that has already connected with this fan base.
There won’t be a change to coach or gm in the offseason. Ownership already committed to them.
Also I don’t think a new arena is coming. Isn’t it a renovation that’s happening?
Renovation to increase seating/improve sight lines. However, with the Olympics likely to be hosted by SLC in the future they’re looking at a new building too
Yeah I agree.Utah could well be one very good team next year.
I am excited for UTAH next year. There was too much failure attached to the couotes they needed a freah start
They’re not getting a new Arena. They’re remodeling the Delta Center instead because the City Council didn’t want the pro teams anywhere other than downtown and there’s no land to build on there. The $900m can be used towards renovations.
The new arena would likely be part of the Olympic bid
@@JD200_ I doubt it since they want to completely update the exterior in addition to the interior renovations. There would be no need for a new arena at that point.
@@rugustus4300 you’d think so but you know how crazy Olympic infrastructure gets lol.
Arizona never advertised their hockey team. I have friends that still don't know we had one. Which is why this whole thing happened.
Utah Gophers ❤ Go go Gophers
What hurts the most about losing the Coyotes is like you said the team was getting better, deep prospect pool, so many talented young players, the insane amount of draft picks and all the Cap space.
Which means nothing with an incompetent owner...
Hiring the right GM is the most important task for Utah! A good GM will make a contender out of this.
Bill Armstrong is a good GM. Alex Mereulo was the problem. Heck, with $50M, a monkey could make this team a contender next year.
@@joeleonard5783 Sure, keeping a good GM is also a solution.
It's never as easy as it looks, but they sure are in a great spot.
Utah Mastodons!
50M of cap space - so they can add a top-6 forward line, a top-4 defensive pair and a decent goalie, and still have more cap space to also add a 3rd line.
Cooper to Utah. Heard it here first
it hurts so bad man
Utah should avoid spending sprees in FA.
Well. This hurts.
Utah Peaks/Summit. Yetis are in Asia
We got the samsquanch here though
Imagine if they had the plan for arena done two years ago with this young talent and cap space. I think they would have been able to sign Austin Matthews away from the Leafs
I think if the SLC, invest have those draft pick to NHL depth like the Avs did with good scout to fill up holes that they have, center and defense, 2 to 3 player to help that young core. Or even offer an offer sheet for other young stars. Then, the 2026 goal wouldn't be so far off
Utah is mainly desert, it's just called the high desert, or colder.
Not true at all. Only 33 percent of Utah, all located in the far south, is classified as a desert. About 3 percent of Utah, a strip located along the Wasatch front which includes the entire Salt Lake City area, running from the Idaho border almost to Nephi - is categorized as humid continental-hot summer. Annual precipitation exceeds the amount of water that can evaporate from the soil and plant surfaces. In this area, when moisture-laden breezes rise to clear the nearby Wasatch Mountains, cold temperatures force air to give up moisture as rain or snow. Industries and communities are concentrated in the humid continental-hot summer portion of the state.
"I don't know, if I was making seven point one five million dollars like Clayton Keller I might be able to put together a pretty good game of scrabble." _killed me_ 😂🤣🧡💛🧡
The Utah hockey team
Right when the coyotes start to build the franchise correctly!! LOL
Keep liam!!
I want to know where you are playing scrable? 😅 Just kidding, there are a lot of cool things to do in Utah.
Utah Dum-Dum-Dum-Dum-Dums!😂
“With the 6th Pick, Utah selects Joseph Smith of Brigham Young University…”
the extent to which meurelo royally fumbled this bag is INSANE.
I'm going to say this team is at least going to finish at 500 next season
It was me who asked about O’Brien lol
That's fine. I'd keep him. They need toughness and mean players in their lineup (even though he can be a hot head at times)
@freiflug83 and that's why they call him Spicy! Lol But despite his PIMs, he's definitely a gritty character player that needs to be brought back.
Yo carrollavirus, you a real og in this game my dawg
There’s only the best mountains in the world in Utah, but sure there’s nothing to do…
I calculated that if they sign all their RFA's for reasonable cap hits, they'll basically have a full roster and still well over 30 million in free cap space. The only hole is in defense, where you probably want to add a veteran or two so that you don't need to rush your prospects.
Moser Soderstrom Valimaki Durzi Kolyachonok Kesselring all need waivers to go down at this point. All 6 will be on the roster (one veteran D signed for 7D?) or somebody is being traded or going on waivers
@@kingtchenka628 I was thinking more along the lines of if the group they already have can be considered a legitimate NHL level defense corp, at least yet. In my opinion there's at least one too many inexperienced young player for that to be the case.
In contrast, I would say that the forward corp is already at least average for the league standards even without any upgrades. As such, the 30+ million in cap space means a lot more than if there were a lot of obvious holes in the roster requiring to be filled.
@@romaliop i get what you're saying. but in practical terms, if they want to add more than 1 D this summer, they're going to need to put Kesselring or others on waivers. Or trade a young D out. Maybe that's fine but. it would have to happen. There's no possible way to add D but not trade or waiver anyone. Unless you add only one.
They have the cap space, people picks and prospects to grab a high end defenseman a team may be saddled with.
$50M in cap space, a couple of young potential stars and a stocked pipeline? This is far better than any expansion team could hope for, especially not being forced to pick from a random bag of journeymen and hitting a cap number with crappy players you can't necessarily off load. Armstrong now has the ability to flex and make this team a playoff team ASAP. If they were that good last season with one skate tied behind their back, this team will be dangerous when they grab the best FAs off the market. I could see them overpaying Guentzel who might struggle to get what he wants elsewhere.
Yotah
They’re not building a new arena. They’re renovating the delta center.
Utah Spartans
So why can't they draft in those spots? Could you help me understand that.
I'm from Utah, I've never really been into Hockey. Utah getting a team as made me a Hockey fan and I'm actually really looking forward to watching them play this upcoming season! Let's go Utah Yetis! (That's the name they should choose IMO)
Here's a crazy thought (Yes, crazy) Toronto finally decides to break up the core-4 after another 1st round defeat. Matthews gets traded to Utah, since they're the only possible team with the cap to take on his contract, further twisting the knife into the AZ fans. (As a Yotes fan, this hurts my heart just saying it)
Second crazy thought.. Winnipeg continues having attendance issues and the team is sold to.. Wait for it.. ARIZONA!
You spell Marner wrong 😅
Matthews and Rielly won't be traded. They're the core of the core.
Call from Treliving to Utah... Have we got a deal for you.😅 ...serious question though. What happens to players who have a no trade clause or limited teams list? Do they have the option to add a new team to their list?
Not that I've heard. Contracts do not get amended when teams move so players with No Trade to AZ can be traded to Utah since it isn't AZ.
Years of mediocrity just to get to this point…I will continue to support
maybe they have space for justin holl and Andrew copp
They are going to sign Stamkos.
Do you think 🤔💬 the organization will move their AHL franchise as well, sometime in the near future, I don't know maybe 🤔 Reno Nevada? A interesting choice 😄
Smith Entertainment Group will need to either build a new AHL team or sign a long term partnership with one of the existing AHL teams. Meruelo is keeping the Roadrunners.
I find the situation unfortunate lol... They have cap space, good young players, some decent draft potential. And a pretty good looking future.... Just in time to leave Arizona
I’m confused where they’re going to play next year. Do they plan on finishing the arena before next season starts?
They are going to renovate the Delta Center over the course of 2-3 years.
The city wanted them to stay in that area, save money, and the team also couldn’t find places to build a new arena around there due to logistics, and time constraints.
@@Carrollavirus oh gotcha. Makes sense
@@willygoat4113keep an eye on the SLC Olympic bid. A new arena is likely to be included with that
A new arena for the Jazz and NHL team was already in the planning phase before this Coyotes deal happened. There is public money allocated for it and more money for an MLB stadium. It's down to selecting the location, most likely on the west side of downtown SLC, and figuring out the tax structure that pays back the public bonds. Delta Center is temporary for now with renovations happening to better accommodate the ice sheet and viewing angles. There are renderings out there of this new entertainment district.
@@dnapiwocki
They are not building a new hockey arena anywhere in SLC. That has been made official.
The only new sports building would be a stadium that would be built if they were to get an MLB team.
I have a feeling they’ll pick up some the guys the Knights need to resign this year. Although I fully expect us to resign Marchy this year imagine him he ended up in Utah?
Post Malone lives and loves living in Utah. And who doesn’t love posty 🤷🏻♂️
The future of professional hockey in Utah looks stellar. The Roadrunners look not so bad either.
When you said Matthews there i think evwry Leafs fan watching threw up 😂
All things being equal, they would have rather had an expansion team. This video explains why all things are not equal.
I miss my Yotes.
I got to thibk that they end the rebuild and use all that cap space and draft capital surplus to bring in the bluekine they need to get back into the playoffs. With even an average blueline, they probably would have finished where St. Louis did this season. Does anyone else agree that they finally go for it?
They can have all the young talent and cap space - I wouldn't want to play there.
Probably have Murello the Billion so he could secure the land auction easier and setup the next expansion fee bottom line, all while turning a franchise losing money into one that'll make more. Even if it is only "6 years." That's within the window to make money in the desert again.
Go Jets/Yotes/Yetis!
utah racoons would amuse me .
Yes. Us diehard Coyotes fans were excited to see GMBA's rebuild come to fruition. Thanks to another crappy owner, we get to watch those results from one state over but hey, Muerelo made sure we get to continue watching them on local tv next season as a consolation prize. 🙄
dude, buy an apartment building in utah for the hockey players, everyone just lives in phoenix still if they liked it its not THAT far
If you believe in conspiracies, NHL is going to have Utah win the lottery this year.
About time for them
Too bad Arizona got stuck with Meruelo!
I think this team with all there cap space ,good young players draft picks and a pro rink will be ascending in the standings oh ya not to mention a new enthusiast billionaire owner that talks about how Vegas has done in such a short time. This team is a short cut to the playoffs within next 2 or 3 years
UTAH UNEARTH
UTAH APEX
UTAH UNDERDOGS
UTAH COUGARS
Team should be called Salt Lake Serpents
Hockey works in the desert, just not the NHL
Utah Jazz have never drafted 1st either, I have no faith that utah's team will EVER get a number 1 pick, no matter what sport.
What IS math??!?
People who say "nOboDy WaNts tO PlAy iN (enter city name)" are just flexing their ignorance
So... am I the only one who thinks they should not dump all 43-50 mil in one summer? Because they have all these stockpiled prospects and draft picks I think they should view their first year as a bit of an experimental and start handing out the big bucks in 2025-2026 at the earliest. If they make the playoffs -> great! But I think most fans will understand that a better record than this season is already a decent improvement. =)