Redrafting the First Round of the 2020 NHL Draft
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I'll always remember the draft for having Alex Trebek announce the pick for Ottawa.
RIP Alex Trebek
Oh wow good call. Guess he and I both shared a love for random bs trivia and being fans of bad organizations lol.
Same here. Very classy move by the Ottawa organization.
RIP Rodion Amirov 💙🤍
Poor family. Life is so unfair... RIP #20.
@@jeffreym.8957 RIP Rodion. Once a Leaf, forever a Leaf.
Another sorely missed Luc Bourdon RIP
Hopefully this is the year where a lot of these players level up and take that next step in their careers
RIP Rodion Amirov.
He had so much potential, he will be missed
I do love seeing these redrafts from you.
You might say that hindsight is…
* puts on sunglasses *
…2020
YYEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
I use to hate puns, but that was good.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nice pun, son.
Hendrix Lapierre may have not made this version of the redraft, but he definitely will make it next time round
Yeah weird omission, I'd definitely draft Lapierre over Holz, Greig and a couple of others on the redraft list.
Winning back to back Calder cups and being named playoff mvp and after a solid rookie season in the NHL. Hendrix imo has been a steal and I am extremely happy with how his development has gone so far
Was shocked he dident get into it tbh. I would have had him 100% as a leafs fan
Ah the 2020 draft, otherwise known as San Jose's Folly. The single reason in the future that every first-round pick that can be is now top ten protected. As a Sharks fan, this one stings.
The worst thing about it was I did not think any single NHL player at that time would have won the sharks the cup anyway. Doug Wilson should have fired himself for even doing that bad trade in the first place.
Believe me, the Sharks probably did try to make it top 10 protected. They were hoping that Karlson would push them over the top and show the same as he did with the Sens. The consensus was with Karlson, they'd be more than just a playoff team. So they accepted the deal.
@@DBeau73 That first round pick was projected to be a late first at the time of the trade. I am sure the sens would have agreed to the top 10 pick protection since that was very unrealistic at the time. I highly doubt Wilson even asked for it. Dorian was not known for being a genius in his moves.
Based on math all rental players still give playoff teams at least a 90% chance to lose. 1 team wins per year and looks smart but all the others look quite foolish doing trades like that.
It is smarter to use math in your favor the majority of the time. Like the sharks contract with Toffoli is not good for the sharks math wise compared to other moves that cap on him could do.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants SJ was thinking about the same that it wouldn't be a top 10 and didn't.
@@DBeau73 I literally just explained that to you.
The idea of Lucas Raymond wearing a Sens sweater makes me physically ill
rabble rabble rabble pitchforks and torches
How amazing my sabres got Quinn and JJ. Both are absolute studs, easily 30+ goal scorers. I can see both hitting 40-50 in their careers.
Absolutely true, even so Faber > both of them together... potentially... Faber is awesome....
Lundell over Jarvis, Byfield, and Laf is SPICY! last year Jarvis almost had as many goals as Lundell did total points
so true , even laff is close with 28g...
Honestly, this is the most I've ever disagreed with thg
Jarvis and Byfield are friggin phenomenal
Watching him move up and down the lineup all year without a loss in production from 1st or 2nd lines, watching our third line shut down 1st and 2nd lines throughout the playoffs, and Lundell scoring clutch goals and apples throughout the playoffs, we’re pretty happy with the pick.
I would put Lundell straight to 1st. How is it even possible to be 22yo, play top line minutes in playoffs, have cup and have an absolutely ridiculous 54,9% faceoff win percent last season. You're supposed to have those at 30 yo, not at that age.
Hendrix Lapierre gonna pop off this year, trust.
And Shakir Mukhamadullin has a solid season in the AHL and is likely on the cusp of full time NHL play! He’s gonna be a good one!!
💯 terrible to no have him in the first rd
Caps best player in the playoffs IMO then sent to Hershey where he picked up a Calder Cup MVP no big deal
very possible with the upgrades Caps made
I was high on Stützle already in 2020 and thought back then that he should have been picked 2nd if not 1st.
Ok
This was Sabres Gm Kevyn Adams’s first draft. It feels good to have good drafting in Buffalo after years of mediocre to poor drafting.
Nikishin. He is amazing in the KHL and is a huge OFD. His potential is high. At least a honorable mention.
I project him to be a 60+ points 1st pair dman
I remember people being shocked that Ottawa picked Sanderson instead of Drysdale. The Hockey Guy even said ‘good luck with that.’ It’s why I trust Ottawa’s scouts even though most other fans don’t.
Ottawa scouts are very hit or miss tbh. They find gems but often skip on a great/pretty sure value prospects. Saw that w Tyler Boucher
@@Oshkino Boucher has just been injured. No one has really been able to see what he’s about. I expect, if he stays healthy, a monster season from him this year in the AHL.
@@deltagolavista1we’ll see ig
@@deltagolavista1 That's some serious cope dude. Boucher had no offensive potential from the very beginning. Injuries have taken him from a player with a 4th line ceiling to a non-NHL player.
*Tyler Boucher (top10 pick) has entered the chat
Ottawa really would have hit a home run if they had picked Stutzle's buddy JJ Peterka at 33 instead of Jarventie as Buffalo snapped him up at 34.
I remember being so mad that they didn’t take him, especially because I had watched the world juniors and saw how good peterka was, they had great synergy together. They also traded Jarventie a couple days ago haha
@@Oshkinohindsight is 20/20.
@@teamsaunz Sometimes scouts get "too smart" - Tyler Boucher...
The fact Mavrik Bourque is already 25th and has only played 1 game in the NHL is insane
He is 22 bro.
Watching THG take Ghule away from the Habs and give him to Toronto in his fun hypothetical fantasy redraft made me irrationally angry lol don't you dare take him away from us!
I had the opposite reaction. It made me happy we got him!
@@alcarlin5827 haha fair! Would definitely help Toronto's problems on the blue line.
I just cant help feeling so sorry for Amirov. anyone dying from a tumor at that age is just wrong at all levels
😂😂
@@Nathanielhiggerson66 Yes or it could be a blessing. Depend on how you see it.
Didn’t realize Tyson Foerster was so under appreciated
20 goals as a rookie on a team that couldn’t score, and such a great two-way game. I was expecting 15-20 range.
Was quite a stacked draft. It isn't because Foerster is under appreciated, it's more others in THG's mind would be better for Philly.
Ya a few guys a head of him i don't agree with. He should be in the teens if not late teens in a redraft. He will be a 30 goal guy in this league.
I suspect it's just to a Rangers fan. I mean he put Schneider over him 🤣 🤣
@DBeau73 none of those guys available would be better for Philly, Foerster is the perfect fit for flyers, he will be on the first line and he has the size and 2 way play they need to pair michkov with
Alexis Lafrenière has definitely not disappoint since he’s been with the rangers I feel like he’s gonna have a breakout season this year a lot of players from this draft class did not disappoint at all
He was fire on the playoffs!
@@nathanjones8771 couldn’t agree more as a rangers fan the casuals are mad at the offseason moves but they don’t realize we still have a very good team and lafreniere can easily be the reason we play better this year once he gets going then kreider Mika panarrin fox miller scheinder even are enforcer rempe I even see trouba playing better didn’t even get started on Igor 😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
Zary continues to be criminally underrated
I'm just happy he's on the list and not surprised he's on the bottom half. A bunch of the players on this list have more than 1 NHL season under their belt
Facts
Underrated? The guy just put him over Foerster, that's overrating
Foerster put up some of the best defensive metrics in the NHL (earning some Selke votes) this year as a rookie on a bad team while still scoring 20 goals. I would slot him higher up the board, personally, rather than lower than he was originally taken
I dont know what to think about the Flyers , they made great draft picks lately but also made some of the worst. But looking the team and the pipeline , they are going to be hard to play against in the near futur.
Exactly. Some guys on the list haven't done a thing in the league yet, guy looks like the teams 2nd or 3rd best player after Konecny/Tippett. Guy is a legit player across the board.
@@jeromelasonde8672They’ve actually drafted well since Fletcher/Briere took over for Hextall. Still gotta develop guys, but I’ve been impressed with what Brent Flahr has done
Here before the sound 😆
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I remember watching these videos in 2020 when you made them during the pandemic they were absolutely amazing I look forward to seeing them. so excited they’re back, probably my favorite series on the channel
Still so many guys who can move up and down in this. Someone like Drysdale could be outside the first round or in the top 5 depending on his health the next few years
@@PhillyL492 Yeah Drysdale was thrown at the wolves in Anaheim and has been unlucky with injuries. Look at Josh Morrissey, an elite d-man now. Took him a little while to develop, but you could tell that the talent was always there. That’s how I feel about Drysdale.
@@justinhochman2171 He'll have to change his game a lot if he wants to glow up anywhere near a Morrissey level. Despite his skating skills he's still just such a perimeter player. I definitely think he can be serviceable if he can get healthy, but I never liked that pick for the Ducks.
@@LeylaDerben Definitely. I think the skill is there tho. Hopefully it can all come together, along with confidence.
As a Blues fan, i love Jake Neighbors..He just got started.
It was wild watching a 20 year old absolutely bully so many veteran players.
Same here probably would have scored 30 if he didn’t get hurt at the end of the year
I don’t see how Lapierre isn’t still a 1st rounder
Hendrix Lapierre disrespected af
Looks like Sens and Panthers are the biggest winners
Sens drafted 2 best players (so far, according to THG) with 3 and 5 plus Greig.
Panthers drafted one of the best with 12 and a good goalie at 200+. And this goalie was a part of the package that brought them one of the crucial pieces in their Cup runs.
Everybody clowned Buffalo for taking Quinn over Rossi
If not for health issues that came later, it may have stayed that way.
Jack Quinn is a gamer. Dude can play. So can Paterka. Buffalo has no business not being good.
@@axe2grind244 All teams have some good players but a few good players does not make a whole team good.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Buffalo is absolutely loaded…that’s the problem. Quinn and Peterka are studs yet they’re barely top 10 talents in this organization. It’s absurd.
@@axe2grind244 If they were loaded they would have already won in the playoffs recently.
Love that my panthers got Lundell.
good but overrated, he would be more like 15th best player of this draft when it's all said and done, good redraft tho
@@mannyoliveira776 He only played a big role for Florida when they won Stanley Cup. Overrated, really?
for real!
@@mannyoliveira776 43 goals in 3 years supports your argument.
Seth Jarvis has 64 goals in that same amount of time.
@@ericscottstevens Jarvis is offensive player and Lundell is 2way player, also Lundells playoff performance was incredible
I understand why most would say the opposite, but most Sabres fans would still have Quinn above Peterka. The only reason Quinn didn't have the same breakout as Peterka this year was because he was hurt. He has been ahead of Peterka at every stage and when he played last year, it still seemed like that was the case.
Next year this time, I think you'll have Quinn closer to 5.
Agreed. He’s a goal scorer but also might be their best playmaker now that Mitts is gone. I was really surprised he didn’t miss a beat when he came back from injury. Thought it would take some time. Kid just needs to stay healthy.
Rip Rodion Amirov
Stutzle in the draft video glimpses prior to draft..he absolutely stood out. His quickness intensity and compete so palpable easily my first pick. And with Ottawa he reminded me of Nate MacKinnon..a talented player ready to go but requiring patience to be part of a rebuild. Not easy.
Excellent as always. I absolutely support the making teams out of draft year video idea ❤
Rip Rodion
FYI. Brock Faber wasn't drafted by the Wild. He was acquired in the fiala trade. Everyone makes mistakes😂
All I heard him say was that Faber was drafted 45th. Didn't hear him say who drafted him.
Just food for thought: Lafreniere was 2nd in EV points last season in this 2020 draft class. He got virtually no powerplay time because he got delegated to the 2nd unit that the Rangers literally never deploy.
Dang what an absolutely stacked dradt of 2nd liners!
Underrated comment. Not a lot of HHOF potential with this so called stacked draft...
Hope you enjoy(ed) vacation Shannon! Looking forward to the 2024/25 season!
I think Laf will continue to grow higher on redraft boards as the years go by.
Next time he does a redraft of this year Hendrix Lapierre will be top 20, mark my words
As a Glyers fans I'd switch Foerster and Drysdale. Rookie Foester put up 20 Gs this year and is unexpectedly a sound defensive forward
Flyers*
Might not be the case right this second but I think lafreneire will prove he’s worthy of being first overall in a redraft in a few years. He’s got way more playoff experience and finally the points came for him last year. Love seeing Schneider get some recognition. He’s really starting to grow into his own
I still believe in Rossi but Faber is a monster steal and we didn't even pick him ourselves! With Khusnutdinov as well, this draft was strong from the Wild. Unreal drafting by Ottawa getting 1, 2, and 24, too
I'm still a believer in Lafrenière as #1. On a team where he could have had a bigger role, and some actual PP time, he'd be the clear #1 still. 8 playoff even-strength goals this year, too. But I'd still have Stutzle and Sanderson next, they're great.
It is crazy that you don’t value Connor Zary higher. His points per game was up with league leaders for rookies.
Hard agree, he’s definitely better than guys like Holtz (who just got traded for a bag of bags) and Chinakov (who’s ceiling is a premium third liner)
@@BB-rh2ml to add to this compare him to a guy like jake neighbors he has better point %, much better plus/minus, and he generated significantly more from 5v5 yet jake is rated a fair bit higher then him I don't really get it.
@@theking-im5fe Yes what you are saying is true but to be fair you need to tell he's got 27 goal last season. Goal are more valuable in the league just saying.
@@jeromelasonde8672 Zary played 14 fewer games, had 14 goals compared to Jake's 27 but Zary had 34 points and plus 12 compared to Jakes 38 points and Minus 16.
Zary was on the ice for 28 more goals than Jake.
@@BB-rh2ml okais , doesn't change the fact he as double his goals ... i know their stats btw ...
Sens did well this draft, i would hate to watch stutzle on any other team
he's overrated
@@mikedufour4829 90 points is overrated yeh bud 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@snake9549 I love how you don't mention the 20 point drop from that he had this past season
He had a broken wrist all season 😂 qnd still put up 70 @mikedufour4829
@mikedufour4829 ..so you don't like 70 point 21 year Olds...stop your nonsence 😂
Laff was a the only 5v5 the rangers had in later rounds the playoffs when things got tough. He fought like hell when other skilled players completely disappeared. Points isn’t everything. He showed is true colors. Laff stays at 1. Warrior
A NHL team should ask Shannon to be a consultant 🤷♂️
Why?
Amen! Canucks, please.
It took LaFreniere 4 years to figure it out as a #1 overall pick. That right there indicates that while sure this can be a deep draft of good players, it lacks elite super star players.
As a Sabres fan you could have just given us Peterka again? (He's my favorite player) Haha
I’m pretty sure Tim Stutzle was Yzerman’s guy no matter what. With lottery luck, I wouldn’t have been surprised if he picked him first overall.
But, Raymond is phenomenal and I hope he wears the Winged Wheel for years to come
As a kings fan I wanted stutzle, im happy to see how byfield is doing now . I have it going stutzle , Sanderson , byfield for my top 3
Such a deep draft. If these guys keep progressing it will be one of the best drafts ever
I’m shocked Foerster didn’t move up
In a real redraft he goes top 15 easily
Tim Stützle: "Oh boy, I can't wait to play meaningful power play minutes for this wonderful New York Rangers organization!"
Gerard Gallant: 😏😏
NYR. Where draft picks go to die. Laff goes anywhere else and he florishes.
Byfield and Reichel could make some of this look a little silly
@@dangshnizzle6929 in 4-5 years it will probably look more like Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson, Byfield
@@jonahbanks2950 could be but for me lafreniere still going to be ahead of Byfield. Last year was a break out season for both players (28g 29ass laffy , 20g 35ass for Byfield) Byfield played more in the AHL so he's only at 179 nhl game while laff is at 298 but the Rangers are way more stacked then LA. Also the first coach played him 4 line so many time , Laff isn't a 4 liner and will never be ... One of the reason i'm saying that is how clutch he was in the series this year with 8g 6 assist in 16 games. i think he's going for 30-35 goals 35 assist this year even more if he plays with Panarin all year.
Someone gets it
@@jeromelasonde8672Byfield is a better skater and Puck carrier than Laf fr
Sandy and Stu will still clear him sorry..A 90 point center at 20 and a first pairing defender will always go ahead of a two way top 6 winger..
Edmonton passing on hometown boy, Kaiden Guhle whom won later with the Oil Kings is all kinds of misfortune.
Then passing on Wallstedt in 2021.
As a Kings fan I've always believed they made a mistake not taking Stutzle with that 2nd pick. He came ready to play and probably would have helped A LOT more in one of those last 3 playoff series!
No, I think Buffalo will keep Quinn and Peterka. We are fine on D, don't need Faber
Redraft in 4-5 years and Byfield is top 3 if he stays healthy🙏
This video made me realize how much Ottawa cooked in real life with this first round
And then the next 4 years happened :/
It does not matter if you draft a good player if the rest of the team is still bad. Giving that good player an expensive extension or contract can help the team stay bad too since they get more meaningless wins which hurts the draft and the rest of the team is still bad.
That cap could be spent smarter if you know you will not win anyway.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants this has nothing to do with the point i was trying to make
@@mikeyschwartz3355 Drafting well has very limited meaning until the rest of the team is good enough it matters. It does not take away from good scouting though for this draft.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Drafting well is always important. Sure the management can mess things up and trade a top prospect for a fourth-liner... cough... cough... Matt Savoie for MacLeod, but it doesn't take anything away from the greatness of the top scouting team.
Laf is still the best pick. None of these other guys have played as well as he has in the playoffs.
Slip of the tongue I'm sure but Faber was not drafted by MN, he came over in the Fiala deal to LA
Originally taken 45th overall, he never said by MN, slip of the ear I guess.
@@lucasanderson7688 He said 'much better than where MN originally drafted him' at the end of the video 26:52 . Slip of the stopped watching too early I guess.
@@Rhysing my apologies , don’t remember why I was looking at the comments at that point anyway
If you did this redraft in 4 years, this list would like entirely different.
As a Rangers fan, I think Laf is about to take that next step, he’s going to have a similar development cycle to Jack Hughes, who also took a few years to become a star.
Would’ve been amazing if rangers had drafted Stuztle instead of Lafreniere
This ranking not gonna age well
Dang. The Senators did well with those two early firsts, eh?
I'm biased as a Habs fan, but Guhle would comfortable fit in the Quinn/Mercer range at 10th-11th overall. Guhle took a step back offensively, but he was locked into Top pairing minutes against opponents' top lines and he weathered it well. At the very least, he needs to be ahead of Schneider. Guhle outpaced Schneider in almost every category outside of a bad statistic on giveaways, and Guhle didn't stay totally healthy. I mean even the fact that Guhle was a top-pair defenseman on a team with a -49 goal differential and he was -8? I think that's pretty good. Especially because the habs tied for 5th-most goals against last year.
Anyways. Rant over.
Overall though, I love stuff like this. Thanks for doing this Shannon!
Laf will be back at number one !!
Nope. Keep dreaming.
Dylan Holloway going 28th is wild. I would personally think he’s a top 20 pic. Only time will tell.
The idea of Seth Jarvis being anything but a Cane is too awful to bear 😭
Smart man
It was some of the darkest and bleakest times of the sens timeline but to look back and think we got two pillars of the team at 3 and 5 after thinking that was the worst drafting scenario we could’ve won, I’m a happy camper
I think 5 years is a minimum for redraft
I agree. I’d like to see it at 5 - 10 - 15 and finally 20.
Naw I’ve seen people do a redraft of this draft last year and this year. It’s crazy seeing the movement and different development paths. This is a super interesting draft
@@noorkidwai especially with Goalies who take longer to develop.
This is brutal, Forester at 26 horrific
Foerster put up 20 in his rookie year while playing elite defense. Kid got Selke votes. He will be a 40 goal scoring winger with elite D. He's already a top 4 forward on the team behind TK, Tippett, Michkov.
Time will tell but i really think that lafreniere would have been better (stats wise) if he wasn't draft by the Rangers... he played in the league pretty early but didn't play as much as he should and the first headcoach didn't trust him at all (kakko is another one that i found had the same progression problem with the rangers) with another team i think he would probably already be a 1pts players.
Tyler Kleven is gonna break onto the list after next season
Looking forward to this redraft getting outdated by next year 🤞
I'd take Lucas Raymond at #2
I’m a huge Jake Sanderson fan and I would have been just as happy with Raymond!
I almost always agree with Shannon but there is NO world where i take Lundell over Laf. Maybe recency bias is in play, but the tools Laf showed last year and in the playoffs should have him at least above Lundell, possibly raymond
The Kings drafted Faber in the second round and traded him to the Wild in the Fiala deal. Plus a first that became Liam Ohgren. Good trade for the Wild imo
It's funny how out of all of the names in this redraft the only one who stayed at the same spot is the guy who was the biggest draft surprise so far this decade. I love Chinakhov.
decade? lmao settle down
I think the biggest draft surprise of the 2020's has to be Shane Wright. I've never seen a consensus #1 become a consensus #4! lol
Good redraft, but I would personally put Faber 1 or 2 but yeah it was quite informed and I enjoyed it
Ottawa gets the 2 top guys...and havent seen a playoff game yet..
Id Put Sanderson #1, then Stutzle. I think Sanderson js going to age very well and get much much better in the next couple years
hes been voted the best skater to ever come out of UND and that includes some really good players like toews and boesser.
damn lol so Ottawa would've ended up with Raymond and Laf instead, nuts
So Ottawa really nailed this draft. I like it. Cheers from Ottawa, Canada 🍁
They messed it up with the extensions though.
Solid list. Your 12-26 are pretty much all interchangeable depending on preference. Though I do think Nikishin should be on here and probably quite high too
Some Sanderson recognition. Nice
No way you put Lundell over Lafrenière after the season/playoffs Lafrenière just had
Ridley and his empty net clapper has me 😂
Raymond ahead of Sanderson for sure. Could see him being number one if this was done again in a years time.
What a deep draft this was. Ton of good players even beyond the first round.
Flyers drafted Tyson Foerster in this draft and he's been a pretty good player.
I think if you do this again in a few years, Chinakhov will be higher. I think the dude can play and has great scoring ability. He has 30 goal potential if he is healthy. Glad to see the pick pay off after the announcers didn't know who he was during the draft.