American Reacts The German Military will become Europe's most powerful - Here is Why
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As somebody who is in the German Army, I can tell that it's not too bad!
German Equipment is considered unusable when for example a tank has a scratch, because Germans want to be perfect in everything.
Exactly. For example. A lot of helmets where considered unusable just because a tiny plastic piece of the chinstrap was missing. In war nobody will care about this stuff. The helmets are actually fine and so is most of Germanys "defective" equipment.
The "only 50% operational" comes from german standards. Things are not considered as operational in our army if one light doesnt work or is a bit flawed. In other countries those vehicles would still count as "operational" but here every flaw instantly makes it not "operational" in the statistics
yah if a mirror breaks off it would be not operational because it would be illegal to drive on German road
@@Fief13 and that isnt a german problem. The britsh army is in a similar state. But they have a navy and airforce which works at least. So many dont care.
@@xxklesx1 yah the german airforce is terrible. Personally i hate the European projects they take forever and get over complicated. Germany should go back to making their own war planes. The tiger helicopter was expensive and useless and no one wants it but hey its cheaper of you can get 50 other countries to join a program
@@xxklesx1 You mean the royal navy with their type 45 ships who lose power and propulsion every once in a while? because that is hopeless even by german military standards.
It's also quite a bit of neglect
Restrictions? We are in 2022, not 1922.
Germany is a NATO member and is the country with the most NATO / US bases in Europe. mah.
I don't know what hes talking about. The only restrictions are nukes, but even then US nukes were almost always in Germany.
They do have restrictions. When Germany was reunified, the treaty they signed limited their armed forces to 350k personnel max
@@InquisitiveBaldMan the restrictions he is talking about were WW1 and WW2, the WW2 ones were lifted after the US needed West Germany as a bulwark against the UDSSR
@@fusssel7178 in fact restrictions were lifted with the 2+4 contracts that gave germany full sovereignty back.
Dont think the USA are in Germany for its defence... its here to keep it down and splitting Russia and Germany
The Bundeswehr were alway very efficient and professional. I had friends in the German Army and I worked closely with the Luftwaffe at Rheine in NRW when I was on an RAF cross-servicing team in the nineties. Re-unification cost a lot, how else would you pay for it? Don't think its incompetence so much from the Bundeswehr. Because much of their equipment is ageing, lacking spares and due replacement, it costs an exorbitant amount to keep it serviceable, plus the loss of experienced personnel! We had a similar problem in the late eighties keeping the Lightning aircraft airworthy, amongst other things. And, all three forces believe they should be the priority!
Today’s Bundeswehr is a bit of a joke and mismanaged. But it can still become a powerful military again. If you were stationed in Rheine, maybe you know of the NATO airfield in Hörstel 😄
@@fusssel7178 Our army would be full in a day and proud if they wouldnt fight for US corruption 🤷♂️
Many left and spoke out after Kosovo and im proud that we have many that would go but just dont because of the NATO corruption o7
There are no restrictions on the German military. Japans restrictions are self imposed and have now been overturned which is why they have 2 carriers that operate F35s.
Those are helicopter carriers which can also start some F35s but they aren't real aircraft carriers
Isnt germany restricted to 370.000 Soldiers?
The "Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany" from 1990 restricts German forces to 370k personnel, with 345k maximum number of army and air force. No WMD, even when made by other parites. No foreign troops or foreign WMD in the east of Germany. It is the reason why Germany refused shared control over french made nuclear weapons in 2007, when France asked them.
You have to worry when Mitsubishi start producing fighter jets lol
have u heard of the 2+4 treaty
5:39 What Military restrictions? We are not in the post WW1 era when Germany was only allowed to have a standing army of 100.000 men. The only restriction that exists is that nuclear weapons are a no go for Germany, and that's it.
The Bundeswehr is restricted in manpower post reunification. It is not that bad though, since germany can't even reach that number (i think it is 370k)
Well there is one factor that is missing , EU intergration of units . Germany has close ties to the Netherlands , many of the armoured vehicles and ships have been joined ventures. Even now a dutch ship builder won the tender as head contractor of a new 10.000 ton frigate Using state of the art dutch radar and combat management systems, Dutch troops are integrated in to german tank batalions , where german sea batalion is beeing integrated in to the dutch navy. even sharing a JSS combat suport ship with the german navy .
The Benelux is also cooperating with a singel command structure for airforce and navy assets. with germany procuring new JSF aircraft there would be no suprise if they teamed up with the benelux as they already have a joint procurement and logistics in place.
Simular integrations have been going on as well with belgium and france . france and italy . the core six nations of the EU are higly cooperative and integrating each others reasourses plus specialised equipment.
An EU military is not far away .
What restrictions are you talking about for Germany ? We are not at the end of WW1 or WW2. Germany is a NATO member and the US has constantly pushed them to level up and reach the 2% NATO goal in order to have a powerful army.
The limitations on aircraft Carriers and nukes.
No "Restricitons" here, only bad politics and NPT. And remember: the NPT is basically self-imposed. Germany absolutely has the capabilities to arm itself with nukes within half a year, if it REALLY wanted to (eg. Russia, after beating Ukraine, starting aggressions against Moldova and Romania. ANY Country that has nuclear reactors is, in principle, able to construct nukes. If they also have any domestic rocket or airplane manufacturer, you can get to mid-ranged nuclear missiles relatively easy. Which btw makes the whole North Korea stuff pretty darn hilarious if you ask me. How an entire country committed to the task took as long as they did to get where their nuke and rocket program is, is kind of peculiar. On the other hand, they are under a lot of embargos.
What I REALLY do not get about that chart at around 8:00 is, why it only considers "Destroyers" an U-boats as part of the navy. Germany relies on self-developed corvettes and frigates, with part of their frigates being built to fulfill the role of destroyers while being smaller than other NATO-members' vessels fulfilling the same role.
The "not straight shooting" service rifle stuff mentioned at the start was, by my estimation, absolutely ridiculous, and while I do not personally know a lot of soldiers, the guys from my school days who went into the military I still occasionally meet will tell you that the rifle was fine.
German helis and aircraft are imo where the REAL embarrassment is to be found.
German „not operational“ is Americas „not perfect, but close enough“
German here: there are no real restrictions, incompetence, naive pacifism and bureaucracy are the main problems
of course there are still restrictions from ww2. incompetence however is our biggest problem, i agree.
of all the politicians in our government only ONE person was in military service, and no, it´s not our defense minister, who is a disgrace.
@@weisthor0815 we are way below restrictions though
@@weisthor0815 and yeah Lindner, who was the architect of the 100 billion funding for Bundeswehr
If Germany increases it's military strength then so will France and UK. Somethings never change
I don't agree in regards to the UK. There is no public support for a large increase in military spending. Even the last relatively minor increase was opposed by a lot of people in government.
@@maxisussex Especially with the general cost of everything going up. Unless we were directed attacked, I don't think it would get support. Most people would want VAT reductions or other similar things.
The main difference will always be the nuclear weapon though.
@@liamloxley1222 For those countries like Germany that haven't been paying their way and can afford to spend more but the UK already spends 2.7% of its GDP on the military and there has been no indication of a large planned increase by the UK government.
why should they? Germany is just taking its place when spending at least 2% of its gdp. no need to raise your own military spending in the UK even further.
If ww3 happens
Gonna be weird having Germany on the Ally side
That's some serious character development
If ww3 happens there won't be any sides to ally with!
Won't be weird for long, as everyone will die quickly in a giant nuclear mushroom. That's also why it probably won't happen.
And regardless, it's not like western countries can afford a total war nowadays, the low birthrate from our current lifestyle makes it a suicide even if it was limited to conventionnal warfare. In short, we're incapable of waging a "total war". That being said, Russia and China too.
Nah they'll call in sick then 2 days later sat images shall show massive German columns moving towards Paris again!
@@packersfanforlife7903 you Do know bc of beeing in Nato they have to help lmao
@@jonasnather2850 I know it was just a cheeky little banter. German people are great, I just dislike them when Football is being played.
In Germany, a tank does not count as ready for action if it is just missing a small item, such as a shovel. So it doesn't mean he can't fight
As a German how can explain somethings within the millitary. 1/3 of the Operational say for instant tanks as an exampel are fully functiont.1/3 are in maintenence for repairs and 1/3 are in the industry for upgrades. the "operational" means everything works, if someone say 1 lamp in a cockpit is defect its not operational in peacetime,they can be used to defence they are not broken. but to discuss that wider then i need a lot more time and words whats wrong with the german millitary from outside.
Funny enough. The whole thing about the German Army Equipment being Desolate is mostly due to Peacetime Regulations.
This comes from 3 Big Factors.
1.
Even Minor Defects result in Equipment being considered Unusable and thus being Send for Repairs.
For example. A Combat Helicopter had a small Leakage in the Hydrauliks which would have meant the Hydrauliks would have Malfunctioned after about 30 Hours of Usage.
Meaning the Helicopter could still be used perfectly fine in Combat without any Problems. But this is not up to Regulation. So its Grounded.
This of course would be Ignored Immediately in any Wartime Scenario as a Frigging Mechanic would simply refill the Hydrauliks every Mission making sure the 30 Hours are never Reached.
And this kind of thing is insanely common. Any Minor Defect anything no longer passing Tight Security Checks is Grounded and Send for Repair.
More than Half of this would likely be either be Ignored entirely in a War. Or would simply be Patched over with Makeshift Repairs on the Spot.
2.
Cheap Civillian Repairs are Prioritized.
Basicly. Instead of having the own Personnel Repair the stuff Quickly. It is Send to a Private Contractor to be Repaired and Returned in like 6 Months.
This is much Cheaper because the Civillian Contractor has a Designated Team that basicly keeps Working through the Orders one by one in their Workshop with Workers doing the normal 8 hours per day 5 days a week with no Extra Payments for Late and Night Shifts or Weekend Work etc etc.
Always maintaining Rigid Control and Paperwork.
But also means that these Vehicles are often gone for Weeks, Months or even Years. Because they just work through the Orders.
In a Wartime Scenario this would never happen. Both Civillian and Military Mechanics would Work in Shifts 24/7 to get stuff back in Action as fast as Possible.
3.
And then there is exactly that Rigid Control and Paperwork. Everything is Documented and has to be Checked. For Bigger Equipment stuff will often sit there in one phase of the Repair for Days before someone Checks on it to Confirm the Repair was done Properly. Before its then Continued.
And every little Part and Workhours etc etc of course need to be Recorded for the Invoice and Documentation.
Not only that. But many Parts are only ordered if a Repair requires them. Meaning the Civillian Contractor will often wait Months for a Specific Part to first be produced before he can then use it for the Repair because he only keeps more common parts in Storage.
In Wartime the Repairs would instead be done using the Spare Part Stockpiles from the Military.
The much Bigger Problem for the German Army is actually from a different thing.
A.
Lack of Manpower.
Thanks to Conscription being Paused the German Army will have trouble actually increasing its Size.
B.
Regulations and Blockades.
Procuring Equipment for the German Army is Complicated and often Riddled with Legal Challenges. Which makes it really difficult for them to Quickly increase in Size.
Same is true for Recruitment and Workplace Regulations which make it Difficult for German Armed Forces to Operate Properly.
C.
Lack of Combat Experience.
German Forces have Participated only very Limited in any Nato Combat Missions. Thus lacking Experience on many Levels.
D.
Multiparty Government Coalition.
The Current Government could really not be Worse for this. As there will be a Difficult Legal Battle for almost every Decision here.
As already Showcased as the 100 Billion Fund is now effectively Removed.
Instead it now basicly being the Increase to 2% instead of having it as a Starter which can then be Build upon by Future 2% Spending.
This alone already means that German Rearmament has been thrown back by 3-4 Years.
And likely there will be further troubles here as well.
What we mostlikely going to see is, Germany becomes a mighty military. Same is going on with Finland, we are working on to build up well enough so eastern neighbour wont even think about bothering us. :)
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No, I do not think its the restrictions that holds germany back these days - its the general dislike to be part of any military action in our society...
The restrictions would still prohibit some things - but we just dont need aircarriers due to our location, we do not want nuclear weapons (the restriction could not stop Germany if we were willing to build those - everything we need is already here, all the tools needed are build here anyways and the know how ... well guess who developed all the basics in the first place). And considering hightech military stuff ... I guess german companys are kind of leading edge there, exporting it to all around the globe - if we wanted that stuff for our own military we would just need to procure it before delivery ;-)
The guy talking this rubbish is obviously a German apologist, because he’s misrepresenting the reality completely with his graphs and theories. This is not Germanys new annual defence budget, it’s a budget increase, which is temporary. The British government for example are spending $180 billion on the Trident nuclear program and subs, outside of our annual budget and another another $30 billion on ships, Stealth fighters, Aircraft carriers. New tanks and vehicles. Germany are no where near this. Our budget over the past five years with outside spending is $100 billion, per year. Germanys new temporary budget includes outside spending as well, plus the annual budget to run the forces, which is $76 billion. The UK budget and outside spending since 2010 is approaching $850 billion, Germany is half that.
Russia's data is at war times while the other armies are shown at peace times. E.g. Russia has 2'800 tanks plus reserve, not 12'000 active tanks.
Thankfully that number is now lower and here's to Russia having less than 10,000 to 9,000 in the future.
There are no restrictions on Germanys military that aren't self imposed. These self-imposed restrictions are falling in an attempt to meet new challenges.
i think the Russian numbers are everything including ww2 era tanks rusting away in scrap yards and fields
Yes, they stockpile everything but the maintenance budgets are stockpiled in the Generals offshore accounts.
Here's to them having to use these Soviet style tanks. Fight in shit tanks that represent your shithole of a Nation the USSR. What a depressing place that was, even the architecture looked shit and depressing!
And now about 3 months later, almost all of that shit is gone and the Army once thought to be the second strongest in the world is merely the second strongest in Ukraine
The problem is a mix of a complicated administration and high regulations, the ordering of a single screw can turn into a nightmare of multiple month because some civilian office worker thinking its not a necessary reason to spend money, combine that with regulations that take vehicles out of service as soon they just have as much as a scratch and you got a constant battle between the two sides that will takes weeks or months to get cleared.
There is also the problem with contracts, for example our government bought helicopters that rust as soon they get in contact with seawater..... They bought them for our navy....
When it comes to operational and maintenance of equipment it's nothing compared to the situation in Russia, out of the (mostly old soviet era) 12k tanks one estimate tells that only 2k to 3k if them are operational and/or available.
This type of military equipment require a huge amount of maintenance, it's a weekly maintenance at best in order to maintain them operational.
There are satellite pictures of huge muddy a rusty outdoor tanks deposit in Siberia Russia from which these estimations have been extrapolated
The american mind cannot comprehend why someone wouldn't invest in their military even if they're allowed to, and have the money to do so.
Most of that money is gonna magically disappear into the pockets of „consultants“…
Numbers aren't everything in regards to military prowess. Just look at what German Luftwaffe Aces and Panzers did to their Soviet counterparts. One Ace had in the 300s of confirmed kills against the Soviets. Germany as of today may be not fully aware of it (because military is rarely in the news here) but Panzer and armed vehicle technologies are HUGE in Germany, so far so that we export around the globe. It's just that the politicians weren't gonna give the military the money needed to maintain their equipment so it naturally takes damage over time. Things are looking up from now on, there's even talks of going back to general military service like it used to be. At least where I live the idea is very popular.
Germany is more than capable of having a strong military, more so than the UK and France but they need to have the desire to want to build a stronger military.
In the past, they didn't have that and it's understandable because of the first and second world war, but Germany is a very different nation today than it was back then.
As for nukes, I don't think Germany needs them but I see no real technical reasons why they couldn't build them, Germany have the economy and skill set to be a big military power in Europe if they choose to be.
Personally, I think it would be better if countries like Germany, France, Italy, Spain and a few others combine resources to build a stronger military at the EU level, it's all well and good building a strong military but the world is different with superpowers like the US and China and the only way for the European countries in the EU to compete with that is by pooling resources, the economy, skill set and resources are there, it's weather the will is there to make it happen.
Personally, I think it's just a matter of time because the US and China are not going anywhere and their military might is only going to widen over European countries as the decades go by and that is what I think will push Europeans to be more pragmatic and pool resources together so they can compete.
Germany is a colony of not only Russia but also of Britain and America. Germany can't even rebuild it's army without UK's/USA's say so, and they will never be trusted to be given the materials for nuclear warheads given their military history. Keep dreaming.
@D Anemon but france and UK have a weaker economy, so spending is limited. I mean the numbers are pretty clear: Germany spending 2% of its gdp meaning spending more than 20 billion more than the UK with already 2.7% of its gdp.
Germany is just the economic power in europe, so it also should be the leading military power.
0:37 average american reaction when they see that Germany Japan and Italy met this weekend
Restictions after WW2 ? Thats a untrue legend !
Later 1970s till 1992, in the cold war , West-Germany had :
- 550000 + 500000 reserve
- 2500 Leopard 1 +
-2500 Leopard 2
- 1000 artillery systems
- 250 Anti Air Tanks
- 500 attack helicopter
- 1000 fighter jets
- many and very good anti air systems
etc. etc. etc
Because there was no chance to win a war against the Sowjetunion in europe without a very powerfull and big german armee .
German here, my thoughts on some topics... biggest problem is, spending money wisely, and not wasting it.. followed by often demanding "fantasy" equipment from the manufactors, that is incredibly expensive, because it should be capable of everything... if we can get rid of these issues, the budget will be more than enough for a capable, well-equipped army. The "operational rates" mentioned here in the video may seem terrible, in fact, they are not much below average, for most militaries, some even above. What is true is the fact, the Bundeswehr is not very popular throughout the German society, so they have to work on that, too... in general, we DO have top notch know-how in many fields, but mostly sell high-tech equipment or build it in very small numbers. That's just my take on it, as someone who tries to follow the developements in these topics here in Germany, have a nice weekend.
erm, i don't know where the guy who u are refering to has his facts from.. it is true that the germans where spending less than the usa, russians and chinese, but we used to have/or still have armed forces during the serbian-kosovo incident, in africa and so on under the flag of the nato and/or united nations.. so the claim of germany hasn't been involved is a pure false claim.
This Comparison with France, UK and Russia is quite of misleading. Germany has maybe 266MBT, but MBT are not the only measurement for strengh of ground force. E.g. Germany has around 800 heavy tracked IFV which are very modern like the Puma, while Frankce has non (only light wheeled vehicle), Germany has 130 heavy tracked modern artillery (PzH 2000), while france has non (only few light wheeled), Germany has 40 MLRS while france has 10 or so, UK looks not much better here. The comparison on Navy....Germany has 11 Frigates of which 3 are classified as destroiers (F124 Sachsen class) and only called Frigates for political reason + 5 Corvettes und 6 Submarines...so not that bad as shown here. There are 6 Destroyer class ships in production (F126 Saarland class) and 2 more subs (U212 CD). So all in all not such a big difference sown here..but of course it is not reflecting what Germany could be. If it spends the 2% each year for e.g. 5years in a row, it would look much different.
The biggest Problem in germany is kinda that nobody wants to be in the army. Sure the Bureaucracy is holding germany from buying or inventing new military stuff but it´s useless when u have vehicels when nobody is driving them.
The restrictions were over in 1990 with reunification.
As you aptly said, when it comes to Russia, Germany has always been strong and will be "on the spot" when it comes to Europe and NATO. America hardly needs to worry about that. In an emergency, Europe can do this on its own.
Just because the German government has passed a law to spend larger amounts of money on equipment and recruitment doesn’t equate to a more powerful or effective fighting force. You only have to look at Russia
If Individual German soldiers do not have a fighting spirit or will to be belligerent they need to build structures and educate people to want to fight an enemy when required.
I have the Spirit to be submissive to you and let you Use me Paul. Use my hole Paul.
Just imagine Germany would spent 8.3% like Saudi Arabia...
Regardless nations that do not have nuclear weapons have never attacked a country WITH nuclear weapons so to have such power requires a country to have its own nuclear weapons .So saying Europes most powerful is misleading, there are just too many variations . The Ukraine had over 1,000 nuclear weapons before America,Britain and Russia pusuaded Ukraine to get rid of them i believe some promises of protections were talked about in any event i cant help but wonder if Putin would have invaded a nuclear armed Ukraine.
we dont have restrictions bro
I know its been 11 months, lots of questions have been answered, maybe no one reads this. Germany isnt even pushing its limit in military personnel, the restrictions arent the reason germany is chilling. Its more the WW2 hangover, even tho I love the army, not everyone feels that way. Also you might need to watch out with the army restrictions on us. Me personally I dont hate the west as much as I hate the east due to recent history, however left wingers and right wingers are pro Russia. Lifting these restrictions now, whilst east germany is already in the hands of the right wing party (alternative for germany, which I vote aswell), they also gain popularity in the west. In the west they have 14 percent, but in entire germany they are already the third largest party, about to become second largest by two percent. The party wants to leave NATO and the EU, and ofcourse get the German Mark again instead of the euro, and might cooperate with russia which I dont like since my family is quarter ukrainian.
The restrictions hasnt to do anything with it. After WW2 and the Cold War society till the Ukraine war society was opposed to a strong military or the role of leading Europe through having the biggest military and the policy also accepted this path and therefore our german policies were focused highly on diplomacy, devolpment projects and economic partnership to build a bright spectrum of partners and friends - in order to no need a big military. Germany went on with the attempt of having East-West policies despite being part of NATO and trying to work mostly as a middlemen between China/Russia and the West.
The new investment and military plan called "zeitenwende" - "change of times" now see's the responsbility to stick away from many of this tasks and focus more on a standing unified military in europe and partnerships that make it a bad idea to attack europe at any part in the future. But as german - dont trust and praise the goverment before you know where they all spent that announced money.
germany is not allowed to have any aircraft carriers my us post ww2 and there are many many more restrictions
They can do basically whatever they want, minus nuclear weapons, they just don't because don't look cool.
The final lines really are the most important here. Should the EU have an army. It's safe to say that thanks to NATO and to a lesser extent the EU, Germany has military allies in the region and so if say Russia invaded Germany, it would be able to rely on France, Italy, Spain, etc, plus nearby UK for immediate fast response. And with all the militaries combined, NATO/ the EU would be more than a formidable opponent. However, this would be multiple allied nations not necessarily in sync. It is a problem which we have run into before. Germany managed to take so much of France early on because Britain, Belgium and France were not working together. It was only when they combined forces under a joint leadership of (i believe) the French that the allies won WWI. WWII was better but even then, with no 100% clear leadership, there was disagreement within the allies. For example, Churchill pushed for the invasion of Europe to begin in Italy, Eisenhower wanted Northern France. Both happened but only because of, not failures, but certainly less than expected results. And again, Britain managed to push successfully for Operation Market garden which was a failure and something which may have been avoided have America just said shut up, we are in charge. If Russia invades Germany, could Germany, France, UK, USA, Spain, Italy, Greece, Denmark etc work together to repel the Russian invasion, or would it in fact be beneficial to have just USA, UK, EU work together. Or would NATO bring in it's own unified command. I guess at the end of the day, Germany only needs to worry about being the best in Europe if it knows that the EU would fight as nations divided and if NATO would fight as nations divided. If they unite under a common leadership, Germany has no reason to step forward to take any sort of lead. Especially since I doubt America would let Germany, or any other country take the lead.
"Germany managed to take so much of France early on because Britain, Belgium and France were not working together. It was only when they combined forces under a joint leadership of (i believe) the French that the allies won WWI."
It's a bit more complicated, even if you're right regarding the importance of joint leadership.
When WW1 started, most of the allied troups on the western front troups were French, in numbers it's overwhelming. Britain didn't have conscription yet, and had only a very professionnal but small army of around 150k-200k. So overall, and without belittling the importance of the other allies (Serbia, Belgium, the UK...), on land the allied effort was mainly carried by Russia and France.
It will change drastically (but gradually) throughout the war. The British army will grow enormously, and when Russia will be taken out of the war the western front already wasn't the same anymore. Also, while all sides were exhausted, Germany suffered a bit more due to the naval blockade which was finally showing effects.
Add to that anyother thing: to finish the war at all costs before USA commits too many soldiers, Germany made a bet and gave everything they had a left in vast offensive, the last one. After it failed, Germany was weaker than ever (didn't have much ressources left), the US soldiers started to be more numerous, and it's only at that point that Ferdinand Foch will be given the task to be the Allied supreme commander. So why it helped, the circumstances toward the end of the war (exhaustion, larger allied armies in the west...) were the main reason for that change.
I went slightly off-topic and was a bit long, sry about that.
Ich will nicht angeben, aber wenn die Bundeswehr mit ihrem Material an die Front geht, muss der Gegner mit AUA rechnen!. Ich selbst habe mein Wehrdienst kurz nach dem Mauerfall begonnen. 12 Monate. Ich bin Richtschütze im Spz Marder, habe eine FM Ausbildung und schieße dir mit dem G3 aus 1000m ein Auge aus!
Dran, drauf, drüber Panzergrenadiere! 4.Pz.Gren.Btl.162
The problem will be also the shrinking demography of Germany. It could cause a lack of manpower.
I've been to the military - don't underestimate the Germans. (!) ...
We all know how this goes…
What restrictions man ?
08:57 That "This is like a Dragon..." was kinda ultra-cute.😂
It is not a big debate who started WW1, some serbians shot the austrian prinz, the austrians gave a ultimatum to the serbians, they said "F U" and the war started, everything after that is a different story.
Also the differens in fleet size between the UK, France and Germany... yeah, UK and France have a tiny bit more of coastline
😂
and why so little is working... mainly because the ways how they have to request the money, I think... thought german bureaucracy is complicated, try military bureaucracy
Germany has a navy with destroyers..some of them are brandnew and the most modern in the world. The Tanks in russia are mostly soviet era and only on paper. for every 100 Tanks there are in reality only 80 or 90 physically available ann from that who knows how many less ready for battlet
7:49 perfect! i couldn´t say it better. He is spittin facts!
With the money the Bundeswehr has received, it should be one of the ten best armies in the world. It is far from that. More money will not change anything, as long as the bureaucratic water head remains.
i dont think there are any restrictions besides the nukes and other countries that will wet the bed at night with a powerful german army, even japan is doing a 90 turn because ukraine even tho Japanese are even less anti army then germany
06:15 most of them trash like t50s from second world war..
Now they mostly scrap metal...
There were no restrictions on the military after 1954, when Germany was re armed and joined NATO as a full member.
Since the reunification there are restrictions. You can look it up in the 2+4 treaty.
@@Monsterstrike7 The only restriction brought in was a reorganization of the national service law's,no East German could be made to serve. I believe that they stopped national service, could be wrong on that,
There were not really restrictions that kept germany back. Its more the overall acceptance.
I would say that most germans do think of the army as a "real" defence.
And when it comes to the Ships, lets say the german frigates are well oversized ;)
henstly, we are a member of Nato. Our allies (the US, UK and France) have the strongest and biggest navies in the world. A navy is crazy expensive and we don't have that much of a coastline to defende + we don't have any overseas territories.
We should specialize on land warfare and airforce instead and thus add to eachother
Germany will always want to be a military player within a greater body like NATO or the EU army so it is a positive move for the west to respond to Russian and Chinese aggression.
The video is not quite correct in many aspects. Therefore, I would not rely so much on it, because many data are not correct.
What you are forgetting is that we don' t kNow shultz's will. The modern populations are more sensitive to drops in standard of living, due to thThe relative comfort of the modern world aand services available.Germany is already going to have a massive drop in the standard living, when they either realise they have limited gas to heat themselves in winter, or they have, to spend less on services they currently do, because they are spending more to get Russian gas.This is a massive short-medium-term problem.If they ramp up in military spending as well this will also have an effect on what they can spend on services, that they take for granted, right now.
Their population, and generations right now will just vote Shultz out of office; HitlerDidn't have this problem,. Get ready for mass protests, or even riots, all over continental Europe this autumn and winter
nonsense
Germany has a very good economy in this vid . The present future outlook for Germany is far from looking good as for most countries .
Remains to be seen. Germany has the benefit of a relativly low national debt and some reserves in that capacity. With regards to fossil fuels now lacking they provide a stop gap solution. Plus the ECB is yet to increase the prime rate, as they already did in the US. Obviously not great but many see it as an incentive to shift towards renewables, which became much more profitable and marketable solution due to higher energy prices
such nonsense
We have weathered the last financial crises (thanks for the crises USA!) better than most countries. Also, many countries would not have been able to cope with the costs of such a reunification.
@@Kommentareable The birthrate, the rest are just details tbh.
But I admit it's not just Germany, most European countries have a big birthrate problem, Italy's population for example is totally similar with Japan's in that regard. Some countries do better (Scandinavian countries and France) even if they don't reach the replacement level fertility either, far from it.
they will build
We have no limitations beside no atomic weapons
THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM?
The Russian tanks i mostly outdated Old ass equipment :D
We will bring Germany back to glory. We will not get to over 10 mil on soldiers because that would be a bit much like back in the times ;)
"Does an EU army makes sense?" Wtf is that quesion? Every country needs his army
yeah, but the EU isn't a country.
So? Doesn't mean you can't combine forces under joint command.
Not going to happen. They have a tiny arms industry and that isn't built over night. Germany has done what's best for Germany, take care of its own people first and foremost. After having most of their fighting aged males annihilated in two world War losses, that also coincidentally are still paying off to this day, it's no wonder why they're reserved to dedicating anything militarily again
No.4 Weapon Exporteur Germany
tiny arms industry XD yeah sure....
Yes. german machinery is good but not as good as the german bureaucracy machine
against EU army , we are not sending dutch man to fight a france or german war!
well, in fact you already would have to do that, as NATO and EU membership mean exactly that. And I would say that's pretty selfish to look at a potential war in europe and say: "We don't want to help our european partners".
No fault of yours, McJibbin, but I was about ready to punch my screen if I were to hear nuculer once more when he was clearly TRYING to talk about something nuclear. Was he practicing to sound as stupid as Bush the son? Grrrrrrr
12k rusty bathtubs, nice.
After WW1 lost lot Land that why WW2 came about get there land back
My god, what a nonsense. At least you should listen to the video you comment on. If you did not understood at the end of the Video that the Bundeswehr was underfunded , I am sorry for you. And please.... forget your WW2 nonsense: exactly those countries that fought Germany in WW2 now demand more military strength from Germany.
Germany had to transfer 1.500.000-000 Euro to rebuild East Germany.
If a country surrounded by friends overspends on defense, this is not smart politics, but paranoia.
ww2 has start in japain
All fine and great until you start to hear Erika being played from a far again. Russia vs Germany round 2 soon.
I kid I like the Germans... only not when it comes to Football. 1996 still lasts in my memory forever more!
There is no restriction to the german armed forces
The reason why the German military is so inefficient and only parrtly operational is because for the last 30 years all expenses for the military have been cut to a minimum. The Yearly budget got invested into consultants and lobbyists who just ripped off the army, so lots of millions just went into some peoples pockets. No spare parts were ordered, repairs were overdue, and the whole armys hardware fell into ruin. Even the 100.000.000.000 that Schulz ordered for the Army will not solve the major structural problems that the Government and the Army have built up themselves over decades, and it will take Dedicated and serious politicians to sort this mess out. Sadly Scholz is not Dedicated, serious, intelligent or truthful, and few in the new government are.
Russia 12420 tanks was per BS
He (and many others) consistently ignore purchasing power. Just because they have more money, doesnt mean they can actually buy equally more stuff with it. Many countries with developed military industry can manufacture and produce weapons of superior quality at a much lower price, simply because of difference in purchasing power. So to believe that just because one country has a military budget of more dollars than another country it means this country must be stronger is a very delusional belief. Further, that guy in the video overly relies on paper strenght.
10:07 "It can't be because of incompetence" Yes it can. Do you think that germans are somehow less corrupt or lazy than others?
Turns out, the special fund IS the 2% NATO goal. They will stretch it out over the next years to meet the 2%, and after that, it will be back to the old budget.
If a country could be sure it could take out ground, sea, and air [and perhaps space in the future] launched nuclear missiles M.A.D. would no longer be a protection but that as far as we know does not exist yet, so M.A.D. applies. One reason defensive weapons can be looked on as offensive weapons would be if such a system were to be invented that guarantees to take out all of the enemies nuclear weapons because it takes only a few to get through to make each other think again though there are war games that think it worth fighting if ONLY 50 million of their own people are killed, the scenarios are as in any war no guarantee that equipment will work or plans go as thought. Any use of nuclear weapons is reckless and at this point illogical as those elitists in their deep underground bunkers play their war games not knowing if their plans will work in practice.
well they got no chance trying uk we have nukes they will leave us alone
And France, they have more jukes and territories and influence all over the world
Germany has access to nukes as well. We just don't 'own' them. Didn't need to invest money to build them, don't need to maintain them - that's _German_ efficiency!
@@srccde good on them that is fine
stale mate no problem with Germany and no problem invading then .
@@srccde how?
@@srccde what access? They don’t . Stop lying
not as many generations away: only 3. To be honest, I would be so pissed, as a French living in Germany to pay more tax here to rearm Germany.
But in reality, most people don't support it. There's still so many people living in poverty and it's generally very expensive here. We don't need higher military spendings. We're not the US nor do we want to be.
That money Saudi Arabia spent went to the UK and US, they paid for British planes and American tanks, they then pay for the Americans and British to do all the maintenance and ensure that those machines are in a condition they can be used, they even pay the British to attach the bombs to the planes because nobody in Saudi Arabia has a got a clue how to service a tank or a plane so their military isn’t able to function independently and employs Brits and Americans to run the show for them, without either the tanks wouldn’t work and the planes wouldn’t fly.
Germany will never be the most powerful military in Europe, Britain and France have nukes, Britain and France have done for centuries what Germany never has and Germany has no historical credibility when it comes to finishing the job, assuming they will be powerful on what assumption?? They’re crap at fighting wars, it’s not what you do at the start it how it ends and the Germans fail, they don’t plan they don’t predict and they don’t see it coming. Don’t assume this defeated failure of war will suddenly become something it has never been.
Germany lost two world wars through incompetence, don’t assume they are competent by nature. Their country is what it is because it was rebuilt by Britain and America who occupied for 45 years after the war. Britain proved far more competent during the war, and German was absolutely annihilated, left in a state of ruin like no other country in history. No country has ever been battered so badly. They ain’t got a clue.
Educate yourself
@@adatek7399 educate myself on what? Germany having a dream though completely unproven
The history of the countries of Europe at war and how France and Britain have a long and proven list while Germany has about 9 wars and 5 of them were squashed rebellions against tribes armed with sticks and stones, we’ve all been there we’ve all done that, the only wars they won were when they sided with the British or defeated France. Only delusion would see them as credible and accomplished, look at other countries and how much they have achieved, Germany ain’t got nothing but an overinflated ego and a narcissistic dream.
Or shall I educate myself on the history of German politics which includes one of the biggest cock ups through incompetence the world has ever seen and includes lesson after lesson of what you shouldn’t do. Or maybe we could compare East German and what Russia did when people risked life and limb to escape with the West overseen by the allies in the name of freedom and democracy which makes up 90% of the German economy and then maybe we could experience the most evil act since people were stoned to death in the middles ages and murder 6 million Jews, because competence, getting things done and being the very best ever is what Germany is all about.
Shamefulness littered with mistakes.
When Göering asked his pilots what they needed the answer he got was a squadron of spitfire. When Rommel was so talented he lost everything in Africa. And when Germany was desperate they thought Hitler was their saviour. What a clever place. German history (how ever short) is a clown desperate for importance. Nothing on Russia, Nothing on France, Nothing on Spain, Nothing on Portugal, Nothing on the Dutch Nothing on the British, Scandinavian countries had the Vikings Italy had the Romans and Germany is deluded thinking it belongs amongst any of them.
Selling stuff labourers make in factories while Brits sell services from the office, making bloody cars while Britain makes planes, and ships. Paying for the EU to exist because they ain’t got the global links and need to make up for the past.
Less to be proud of than everyone else, and nothing in comparison, just a wannabe that no one else wants to be.
You can build the biggest ship, it still has the same weakness as any other.
Take countries who aren’t prepared by surprise for no actual valid purpose, siding with the Italians and making enemies with the rest.
Starting wars with the whole wide world why would you do that?
Do you think you’re Mars?
And yes you do make cars,
but we make flying aeroplanes so shove that up your a**e
And that is the reality.
The dreams are unproven in the nation of delusions.
Don't awake German military aspirations...they will take it very seriously.
That's all we need, another strong German military. 😅
Germany is dying. I am at a loss.
India has already reached 78billion$ 2021-22😆Germany will be forth in money and 6-7th(if lucky) in power
you can´t compare indian military with german military. the latter is far superior in every aspect if desired. the only things inida has going for itself are numbers and nukes, but not quality.
china is wild
Just another step in escalation
i dont think france is more powerful than the UK, the UK is an island nation our borders protect themsleaves, we can focus on having a small technological advanaged army,
The water may have protected us in the 1940's, but I'm doubtful of how much it would help now.
We need some investment in our defence. The new carriers are great but not enough
Exactly the UK is so great that it has aircraft carriers that are not operational without escort ships from other countries, e.g. from France.
@@nettcologne9186 yes because it’s NATO. So it’s a mute point.
@@nettcologne9186 the RFA is responsible for replenishing the aircraft carriers not foreign nations.. the uk has warships spread around the worlds supporting friendly nations.. friendly nations also support the carrier strike group. The uk can operate a carrier strike group independently of other nations but we would have to reduce commitments elsewhere.. multilateralism is a strategic advantage.
man, the french army is easily the most powerful in europe, by far. Just look at their missions in africa, they are just very well equipped, well trained and well organized.
That's why I think it would be great to have an EU army (sorry UK), where we can combine forces and also our military technologies.
Makes no sense to spend that much money and not have a strong EU army with it.
I doubt it. France and Germany are in competition to see who is the most fake. In terms of veterans, Ukraine will have the best army and air force. French navy isn't bad however. Russia had the most powerful military in Europe ... but if they don't stop soon, except for nukes, Ukraine will be more powerful than them.
russia "had" over 12k tanks. over 10k is got stolen from Ukraine tractors :D