How Do German Schools Teach About WWII?
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In the video today, we do a deep dive into how exactly German schools teach about WWII and some rather unique things about all this from how most countries teach about their own historic wars.
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After watching this it, now has me curious about how colonial countries/states taught history during colonialism and after said country/state change how they teach their country/state's history.
Very interesting I've wondered what it was like and you gave great insight to that cause well here in America I feel it's very opposite we always portray ourselves as the great victor who stops all tyranny goin on
As an American though I don't agree while our involvement in many a conflict has most likely stopped many a horrible thing from continuing i think all global powers need to really get together to make the world a much better place no one is better than anyone else we all bleed red and we all need to come together to make the short time we currently have to make things great for the ones to come and tbh we've done a terrible job
Bring peace to all you encounter and share in the joy that is real humanity
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History, no matter how bad, should never be brushed under the carpet or changed. We can not change history. How are we supposed to learn from our mistakes otherwise? I wish the left would realise this.
I have a question for a video... how/why did 'The Nutcracker Suite' by Tchaikovsky come to be so closely associated with Christmas?
I think the reason why germans click on every video that has "germany" in its title is because we are always curious how people from other countries view Germany....
Also, could just be me but I think because people don't really talk much about us, except they talk about the world wars or something big is happening in Europe so that our government has to give out a statement. So it's a nice change of pace when people talk about us and it's something different for once.
Don't worry, french people do the same
Same with Indians bro
Yeah I was asking myself the same question. I often catch myself watching vids that portray Germany in a good light for once, so maybe thats also a reason, idk...
In England we think Germany is a pretty great place. I love your language.
I went through the german school system and i can say, this is quite accurate. I do however disagree a bit on the "original sin" point. We were never told that what happened is in any way our fault or even really related to us. What was strongly implied however was that it is our "duty" to make sure nothing like that ever happens again.
True. There was no talk of sin at all, rather of resposibility. The responsibility of our teachers to inform us about what had happened and by extension not allowing for this history to be forgotten, aswell as our collective resposibility not repeat what our ancestors did.
Yeah, its not "our fault" , its always "our responsibility"
When did you attend school? I went from 1980-93, and back then, they still made us feel a little guilty about the Nazi-regime. It was also often used in politics, by other countries trying to get Germany to make concessions by pulling the Nazi card... Attitudes changed a lot after the reunification, I think.
@@lenkacfk7155 i finished in 2016 (i think lol) and i didnt really feel like they were trying to guilt trip us. Might have been different back then.
@@Wufgang yeah today the schools also focus a little more on what the germans went through before the nazis. it's no surprise to me, that they wanted revenge and domination.
Crazy to think that I hated sitting through lectures like this in school, but as an adult when I actually WANT to learn things, it's the most fascinating thing on the planet.
Its more like its fun to learn on our own terms and not being forced to by an education system
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
As a freshman nah CZcams just makes it better becuase you are not forced to do it it’s hard to explain and I love learning about history and etc also we get to choose what to learn about not have a schedule for when and how
Most schools do a very poor job and making information engaging
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I visited Dachau concentration camp once and a school party was there. The teacher was describing in detail what happened there. Some kids were visibly shocked and one was crying. The teacher didn't try to comfort than. She let the horror of the place sink in. You can guarantee that those kids will never forget what they learnt that day!
in the usa we were shown movies documentairies, about the concentration camps. i remember it , and we all learned what we will not allow to happen here either. but it is sometimes falsley described , so it must be done truthfully . we saw a lot of stacked up corpses etc and other horrible things. It was so scarey . " Night and Fog"
@@theCosmicQueen same. American schools did a good job of drilling the horrors of nazi camps.
I'm an American who visited back in 2008 and to this day, it was one of the most humbling things in my life
There is still a smell when you are there that unless you have been you can't understand.
@theCosmicQueen it's crazy to think it can't happen here when we literally did that to the japs at the time
Dachau is an disgusting propaganda invented by England and USA to guilty the German people, all victims there were dead German soldiers and people showed as Jews to brainwashing all other European people
"How do German schools teach about WWII?"
Me, a German: Interesting question, let's find out
When you forgot everything you learnt in school so we have to watch this video
I mostly remember that we were though about the cold war and the differences between east and west germany etc
Idk what exactly we learned about the wars
But I remember that almost every student teached himself something so everyone could say something
Same
Unser Lehrer hat jahrelang nur WW2 durchgenommen und ich konnte es irgendwann nicht mehr hören :/
Same xD
@@000CherryBlossom000 ich musste zweimal durch. Einmal in der Mittelstufe und einmal in der Oberstufe
As a german who is currently in 10th grade I can say that we don’t talk about the World Wars only in History class but in several different classes on different levels
Even though the history class is probably the class which makes the damage done by the nazis extremely visible. Next on my list would be German but that probably depends on the book you read
@@minerskills in our school it’s actually religious education
I'm German as well and I can totally agree. Of course, it was a very important topic in history class, but we also discussed it in German, Politics, Music, Religion and French class
You gonna learn about it more in your Abitur
Same but Im in 8th Grade
I can say that we had a whole hour talk about the mustached man in economics it is pretty weird but hey at least we’re discussing it and we will learn about it in 9th Grade I believe 🤷🏻♂️
I am an American and lived in West Germany in the early eighties. One day myself, my German friend and his wife went to a Gasthaus (neighborhood bar) for a few beers. One old man at the bar was drunk and started talking loud. The only thing I caught was "Mein Furher". Without saying a word, the bartender came around from the bar, grabbed the man by his shirt collar and belt and literally threw him thru the front door onto the sidewalk. My friend told me that the old man was spouting off about how he had been an SS officer in WWII and that "Mein Furher" was right in trying to exterminate the Jews. Then my friend said, "That piece of shit is lucky the bartender didn't put him in the hospital"
jesus.... that is some story, to think that it was just 80 years ago when those atrocities were committed... wish the bartender beat the shit out of that scumbag
Damn how old man like that who thinks Hitler did great things was still free to walk in the 1980s? He was maybe in his 20s or 30s in WW2 and was still pissed that Germany lost WW2.
Holy cow what a story!
I'd do the same and I'm not even German.
Or called the cops. Pretty sure you can go to jail for that. Not sure how much far right shit you have to do till it comes to that though
I think I was 13 years old when me and my German school class (most born in 1966) visited the Dachau concentration camp for the fisrt time. We were kind of traumatised by this visit. At the same time the TV series "Holocaust" was partly shown and discussed at school. For months and even years I felt directly responsible for all these cruelties. So I can confirm that what we were tought was a clear message of this must never happen again. Still I think we were a bit too young for this. Today this is handled more cautiosly but still unmistakably.
You were responsible my god you weren't even burn then. Tw your teacher to go to hell
What about the Indians the blacks and Stalin's cruelty. Just as bad. The Jewish people always think they were the only ones who suffered
I meant born then. They didn't edit my comment I thought they did. But being of German descent I must admit I'm tired if hearing this over and over again. You hurt my feelings. I'm proud of my German heritage and the Germans gave the world many wonderful things. America would have not gotten to go to the moon if it weren't for the inventer of rocket technology Werner von Braun. What about the Indians what about the lynching of blacks in the south what about Stalin's atrocities what about cannibalism in africA and yet we mostly hear about this over and over again why?
I was taught all of this information when I was 10 years old (most of us born in 1999/2000) I really hope that the people that teach the children now wait a little longer before teaching them this information I had therapie because I ended up having class about the war almost everyday single day (I am from The Netherlands so it could be diffrent in German schools back in my middleschool year but for me it was horrible)
But please know that you have done NOTHING wrong I get that you felt that way because it happend in your country But you where not even born back then so it has nothing to do with you anyways and I love Germany people are very kind and nice overall 😊
Thank you. It was a total horror. This is what happens when a deranged maniac is allowed to take power. I read about Dr mengele and his Nazi experiments and I have come to the conclusion that these people were pure evil
The Jewish people were very successful and happy in. Germany before world war two a lot of them fought on the German side in world war one. That is something good not bad. My mother also told me that when she was a little girl in Germany her Jewish doctor came to the house and stayed there and held her hand during the night until she. Was sure she was okay. Then the family never saw him again after that because he is as taken away by the Nazis. The family loved him very much.sooooo sad. God bless all those poor souls who perished in the Holocaust let us never forget th
Me: Is going to a school in Germany.
Also me: I wOnDeR hOw WwIl iS tEaChEd In GeRmAnY
Taught*
Ah yes Teached!
Taught
Welche Klasse bist du ? Ww2 kommt ab der 9ten
Same
Now we just need to get japan to do something similar. They don’t even acknowledge their atrocities
Japan: What attrocities???
@Alex Reinheart Allied Forces: what attrocities?
@@jeffthevomitguy1178 i don't know of atrocities we committed in world war 2, but we certaily aren't facing the unrelated atrocities we are still commiting to this day with respect to racial hate, injustice (concentration camps for immigrant children) and the genocide and desecration kf religious sites of the native people's who mostly still live in opressive poverty, on land we forced them to, and to this day are still victims of genocide in the form of cultural destruction and unknowing/uneilling sterilization.
Fr they tortured and experimented on Chinese prisoners
I think they know about their ww2 history but the fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki we're nuked down let them deal with it in a whataboutism way.
I'm Polish, and I visited Auschwitz a couple of times (it's located within the Polish borders). I was very happy to see many German tourists there! They were very respectful and kind.
I really admire that they do teach history that way in Germany. It's a very valuable lesson, and it reminds me of a quote, "those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them".
This could be a whole series. How Do British Schools Teach Colonialism? Or the Westward expansion or slavery in the US? Stalinism in Russia? WWII in Japan? Etc. etc.
British schools barely cover colonialism
Here from the U.K. We basically just learn about it how it is. Well as far as I know
US would be hard to say, because states have varying curriculum standards
Slavery in the US is grazed over. There is talk of abolitionists and certain figures are glorified for their acts of racial heroism: Harriet Tubman, Abe Lincoln, etc. But the overall atrocities are nowhere near as in depth as when we get to the Halocaust. Teacher showed pictures of piles of bodies at a Nazi camp. I think that it is much easier for most parties to point out other groups mistakes in a sense to lighten the burden of their own misdeeds, but idk. Another interesting thing, I'm from Los Angeles. I would love to know how things like the civil war, which tore the country and families apart, differ in teachings.
Product of a British education here. I remember being taught about the British Empire but it was part of a wider topic of European Colonialism, including Spain and Portugal etc. However this might even have been later in school after most students had given up studying history. I took history up to age 18 and we never studied US history - the American War for Independence and the American Civil War for example. I was always aware of those events but most of what I knew came from American TV (the Simpsons is a big one), films and some video games like Assassin's Creed 3. I don't think it's considered very important in forming the UK into the place that it is today.
German schools: ok kids something not that chill happened in the 1940s...
how does this not have 20k likes yet?
@@nanochad2979 cuz its a new comment?
Lmao
@Sometimes Blue no.
@Sometimes Blue ok, that goes a bit too far
The War effort is only useful if your studying Military History. But the General History is Why it happened , When and Were and the outcome. And everything must be taught in context. Especially the Social Ethos of it all.
Yeeeees this is very accurate!
@@AYVYN No its not
100%
Which is the most horrifying part of this video. They teach everything but what led to it all while repeating it currently. Violating human rights and allowing the proliferation of anti-semitic, anti-western ideology. Hitler took power 10 years before it all happened, and they're not teaching about what moves he made to secure power. They don't teach people about how much islam influenced him toward anti-semitism. They don't teach that high-ranking SS officers were required to renounce Christ and encouraged to convert to islam. Or how hitler's plans for the architecture of Germania included massive mosques. They teach WHAT happened, but not a speck of WHY or HOW.
Nightmare fuel.
Not even close. Military History is /much/ more than that narrow view. Military History is /actually/ everything that happens during wartime, from rationing in the UK, to wedding dresses made from parachute fabric. Military History /does/ teach why (jus ad bello - the [hopefully just] reasons for going to war), as well as jus in bellum (the conduct of troops during the war); when and where (not 'were') and the outcome are not that important, in fact just knowing the outcome is like reading the last chapter of a novel. When and where are more 'War History' than proper Military History.
As a German in ninth grade i can say this is spot on. I actually visited the former Concentration Camp Memorial in Dachau just a Month ago and it was the most desolate place i have ever been to.
The best word i have to describe the feeling in there is hopelessness all around you. You feel like you have no rights, no dignity whatsoever. It is something everyone should do at least once to prevent anything like this from ever happening again.
This feeling of hoplessnes i felt to. Like a creeping fog, judging your every move.
I'm german. I spent a year abroad in 10th grade and people I met asked me if I'm a nazi. They weren't joking, they really thought that most germans are still nazis. Smh
(Edit: typo)
Now that Zionism has taken over the world, I would think you guys would have been the first to figure out what’s going on...
Beyond obscure, of course most Germans are not Nazis. People need to stop with that stupid idea of thinking it is a “joke” to call someone something they aren’t based on what one was taught in school.
@@diabetesman4030 Lmao no, stupid question of yours unintelligent one.
@@JR-hh7kv I was asking magnus bane
@@diabetesman4030 Mm, still, dumb question. I got the notification and it was under my comment. 😊
As a German who went trough the German school system, I can say: The video is quite on point, well done.
At what age do you start to learn about that part of history?
9 - Age 14/15 is holocaust. i think the whole timeperiod including ww1 is starting 8th(maybe 7) class. but in the 9th class you mostly only have WW2 in historyclass
@@LadyNikitaShark if I remember correctly, I was 13 when the NS regime was first thought in school.
Should be grade 7 or 8. Many schools will do trips to concentration camps when the students are older
@@LadyNikitaShark As this is rather recent history its taught later in school - for me (Realschule) around the age of 15. It's not just history class though we also read books in German lessons (my German teacher was also my histrory teacher so I am not sure how universal this is :_))
@@LadyNikitaShark as soon as we learned reading, we red a book about it elementary school. I think it was 2nd or 3rd grade. The book is called Damals war es Friedrich. It's a book about two boys growing up in Nazi Germany, one being a jew.
Also, I’d like to add that I’m glad that the schools decided not to dig deeper into military conquests. In my opinion, you’d just be glorifying more violence and more murder and spreading nationalistic views and the feeling of “we had so much, and we had to give it up” (which is NOT TRUE), which is the whole point of what the in depth lessons about it are supposed to prevent. Also, maybe this is just me, but frankly, I also don’t really care all too much about how far we “got” considering what we did to others to achieve it.
Yet it's an important subject even if it does promote some nationalism. What I am saying is, it would be a great example of Germany's false sense of security early in the war.
The INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS WAS IN CHARGE OF COUNTING BODIES DURING THE WAR AND THEY SAY THAT BETWEEN 750 THOUSAND AND 1.2. MILLION JEWISH PEOPLE DIED, AND MOST OF THOSE DEATHS CAME AT THE END OF THE WAR, ... DUE TP OUR BOMBINGS.
German student here! I’m in my last year of school rn and graduate next week. When we talked about WW2 in history class this year there was one history lesson where our teacher put on a documentary about the holocaust. Of course all of us already knew of the events in detail from reading about it in class not only this year but in previous school years as well so I thought the documentary probably wouldn’t be all that shocking to me. I was wrong however. Before starting the video our teacher told us that we were allowed to leave the classroom if we needed a moment, as the documentary was quite graphic. The documentary showed the aftermath of the mass genocides in concentration camps. Mountains of dead, naked, starved bodies being thrown into huge graves like they were dolls or something. Videos of mass shootings not only of adults but children as well. Lifeless bodies laying in the streets of the Ghettos.
It was beyond shocking and horrifying to see, I couldn’t help but cry. You can read about it all you want but I don’t think it fully clicked in my head before that those things actually happened, that those lifeless bodies had minds and souls once, it suddenly all became real.
Yeah I think it’s safe to say that I will never forget or underestimate the gravity of the crimes against humanity committed by germans in the NS time.
Do you happen to know the name of the documentary?
There is also a soviet movie called "come and see", highly recommended, graphic AF
Heul leise
You should do one called "How Do Japanese Schools Teach About WWII?" You'll find it's very, very different. And that's putting it gently.
I have a couple friends from Japan. They were never taught about WW2. When they moved to the US they were surprised we were once at war with them.
Unit 731
They don't
The US send big sun bomb
Fair enough even we in Germany basically skip over all of the 'oh and there were allies and we called ourselves axis powers' part. I only learned about that because our teacher had a Japanese wife and then when I changed the school a year later (in history class we now learn about the aftermath) my new history teacher basically fell from his seat when I asked "and what happened to Japan??" Turns out some history teachers don't even know...
So much respect to Germany for owning up and acknowledging their country’s dark days. Takes a lot of courage to take ownership of something like that, but the Germans do it with such grace. Hats off to you Germany!!
I agree! For me Germany and Japan are two countries I respect probably the most in the world! Don't know even why...maybe because they are very hard working people.
@@povilas007 kinda funny that you agree to his comment and say you respect japan in the sentence after that.
(I mean, it's ok because they are working f*cking hard but...)
@@martinfranzer2254 I always pair them together ;)
Povilas D well japan haven’t ever owned up or apologised the way the honourable krouts do.
Infact a Japanese embassy once complained that a memorial to comfort women offended them. I think it was in s.korea or the phillipines or something.
@Jacob yt
What? WHAT?
A forgeiner telling A German what is ok and what isnt? When ? If i Remember correct Germany told Greece what to do Not the other Way around. And most of the Immigrants that live in Germany are either from EU or Turkey meaning that they came to Work for Germans Not to make Germans Work for them.
And what Communist Take over?
In Germany there is a saying:
"If you arent a Communist or a socialist at 20 You have no heart..
If you are still a Communist at 30 You have no brain."
Most Germans are old and hate Communism so who exactly wants Communism in Germany ?The young? Once they Turn 30 at the age where they are finaly a full member of the productivity of Germany they nologer want Communism.
And Nobody denies in Germany what the ALLIES did. Rape, Deportation, theft ( mostly by UDSSR but a few Americans and English did it too) but they pale in comparison to Killing 6 000 000 Jews, Killing 20 000 000 Russians and Killing POW.
Germans know what happend at Königsberg so what exacly are you talking about?
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*Kid opens it and Father takes it away.*
Father: "He said he wanted Minecraft, not Mein Kampf."
I went through the German school system and I can’t believe how accurately you described it 🙌 Great video!
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We don’t just talk about WWII in history class. We talk about it in german class, in geography class, in philosophy class and others as well. And we talk about it with out grand- and great grandparents. We don’t allow us to forget because democracy is incredibly fragile.
plus countless documentaries and related movies all throughout the year on TV and memorials for the victims of the holocaust in most every town and city
We don't talk nearly enough about all the N@zis who were still employees of the state after the so-called de-n@zification, though.
GDR im a joke to you ?
We even talked about it in maths
Do you talk about firebombing of your cities or mass murder and rapes by Soviet soldiers
That’s so on point. Great summary
Thank you so much for doing all this research and making this video.
“So this Austrian guy came over...”
Haha Damn Austrians...
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"...and overthrew our great Weimar Republic which had stood for 1,000 years."
I am a German History teacher and I focus on two things mainly: a) the events and flaws which led to Hitler's chancellorship and how he managed to turn a democracy into a dictatorship (to make them aware of the dangers democracy may face in the future) and b) the Holocaust (how ordinary people could turn into heartless killers)
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Do you also teach kids about the Communist Party and who were its leaders after the WWI ? Is it allowed to talk about the German citizens from Danzig and how Polish administration threaten them with cutting all ways of traveling on Polish soil to and from Germany ? Is there any chapter dedicated to ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia , from the Sudeten Mountains , who were humiliated and beaten on the streets just because they were Germans ? I hope you do not . It is impossible to explain WW2 without explaining how in the WW1 German people had to fight and die in another war of another country who inslaved surrounding nations for hundreds of years , another German country that created its own empire and did not take responsibility for its own actions . I cannot find a purpose or a way how to tell kids that after WW1 all Europe hated ethnic Germans because of Austria . How to tell kids that Germany was punished severely after the WW1 instead of Austria and the communists took advantage of the situation creating more instability ? Kids do not care about politics . WW1 and WW2 are like a football game , you cannot talk only about the second half , better remove this chapter completely from the books than lying about it .
@@gigirigips Do you mean the communist leaders Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht who were both killed by conservative secret service members in Germany? Tells us a lot about the democratic attitude of the Conservatives, doesn`t it? 😉🤣🤣
@@MrMielten Yep ! Apparently both possibilities were bad . The thing is all Europe had national parties at the time and the only multiethnic party was the Communist Party . What is a national party ? It is a party made entirely out of citizens that are ethnics of that country and could not accept members that do not meet this criteria . Considering the social and economical conditions in Germany after the Great War , with the national pride shaken , it was easy for any national party to rise into power . So , why the Nationalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ? Easy ! Because the other national parties did nothing for social security or to improve life in Germany a little bit at least and the only active party was the Communist Party . Well , in that time in Germany lived a lot of other non-Germans and they were part of society too , but they had no party to get in or to represent them , so the only option for them was the Communist Party . From this point it is easy to understand why most of the communist leaders were Jews and how this thing was exploited by the Nazis turning slowly the propaganda against communism into propaganda against its leaders and because most of the audience was hungry and angry and looking for someone to blame for losing the war and for all that came after , people just associated the danger of communism with the "foreigners" and put all the evil in behalf of communist leaders and later extended the hate to all Jews , communists or not . When the mind is blinded by hatred mixed with false pride and hunger and it is very likely to overreact and take the wrong decisions . All this chain of awful events that happened to Germany was triggered by Austria in 1914 when Franz Ferdinand was killed and culminated with the split of Germany during the Cold War .
@@gigirigips *enslaved
This is quite fascinating. Thank you for an interesting and informative video.
These the type of questions i kontemplate.. Thank u sir. Another great video for the intelz.
"those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it."
Japan:
Good thing i love history
Know your history...
I would say that this quote is missing a word: from. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it; learning history isn't always the same as learning the lessons from said history.
then we better stop teaching hitler
@ai jao Not what the quote means.
People who know history will start hearing alarm bells when someone in a mustache starts shouting in german.
We, the people of germany today, are not responsible for what has happened in the 30's and 40's of the last century. But we are very responsible that something like that must never happen again. That is our collective resposability today.
Well put!
@Ivy Agreed!
Well said.
Exactly
so maybe you can finally return all stolen goods - mostly art masterpieces and pay reparations for countries almost completly grounded during war? German people living in 40s and 50s somehow didn't feel like doing it...
Very nice Video.
Im German (19yr) and just finished school this summer. And i remember exactly when we had to go to a concentration camp in 9th grade. It is mandatory and even the people who were sick that day had to do this trip with the classes of the following year.
We were all about 14-16yrs old. On the way to Dachau there was a lot of laughing and joking about the the time back then and what the people had to endure. I know that was very f'ed up, but you know how teenagers are.
But just after arriving and standing at this huge open field where all these poor souls arrived too back then and seeing just how big the complex was, we all went silent pretty fast. Not because we were scared or anything like that, but because you can feel that very bad and frightening thinks happend here. Its a feeling i cant really describe to be honest.
The tour was fascinating and our guide could literally answer every question we could think of. But we all had this depressing and ashamed feeling the whole time. We were ashamed and also kind of surprised/shocked that the n*zis did this to others.
The first shock was then seeing how the people had to "live", crowed the whole time, sleeping in beds five at a time where one person could barely fit in. And even know i can still remember the smell of that place. But the most shocking thing was not seeing the gas chamber and listening to the guide explaining what these marks on the wall are (scratching of these poor panicking souls, realizing that they wont escape) no, it was the 20 minute video we saw.
The End of the tour is always the cinema. There you will see a small documentation of the camp. From the building to the arriving of the first prisoners, the day by day humilation, the killing etc. and even videos of the freeing through the russians.
You see the skinny people who are almost skeletons. You see how scared they are. No hope, no happiness. Its a depressing feeling seeing the last moments of people. Even after they were dead, they were not treated with dignity of any kind. Just thrown in a pit, burned to ashes. I can't imagine how its must have felt being inside one of these camps.
I know this didn't make it sound like a fun tour for the whole family, because it isn't and it shouldn't be, but i still recommend it. If you ever are in poland or gemany, go and book a tour. It is a very humbling experience and i promise it will change you. Because on the bus ride home there wasn't a single person joking anymore and we were all pretty quiet and in our thoughts.
Fascinating, thanks for making this video.
Acknowledging ones mistake is infinitely more honourable and glorious, than trying to bury them or lie about them.
Wish half of America understood this
I live in Lithuania, country, which was occupied in WW2 by RUSSIANS first (pact between Molotov and Ribentrop) and then Germans. I won’t go into the details of soviet education or rather indoctrination based on lies - our parents and grandparents worked hard to persuade us, kids that what we hear at schools are shameful lies.
My impression of grandparents thoughts was that they thought Germans were rather saviors than true occupants. My parents didn’t think Germans were bad because of ADolf Hitler, because Stalin was ten times worse. The rest of the world still doesn’t know how many people have been killed by soviets. The soviets themselves did not bother to count.
That leaves us with the present day. As Lithuanian, I always respected Germany and germans, I liked their country and culture. Unfortunately, I see the souls of german people are crippled: they are not proud of their country and history. I recognize indoctrination when I see it. Maybe german people themselves do not feel like been castrated, their national pride removed, but I know Merkel would never happen if majority of German population would not feel certain way. I saw here removing national flag, I saw her making crime if bringing millions of immigrants to Germany, I saw her lying to her people. What I fear is that Germans will have to flee their own country. We will shelter them, of course, but it makes me mad how country can be lost without a war, without much of resistance. Socialism/feminism is a cancer. I wonder whether it can be stopped before destruction of this civilization.
Kyle Gibbs all of America*
@@ramsa01Yt The second wave feminism was the good one. This current wave is rather messed up. It was created originally to help women gain the rights they deserve. The ones who put everyone else down are just assholes. The feminists who acknowledges the problems men face, along with LGBT+ people, etc. So the thing itself should never be stopped. It's the third toxic wave which needs to be stopped.
*Cough cough* japan
Also the movie “Die Welle” (The Wave) is commonly shown in school. It’s a movie about a teacher who tries to show his students, that even now they might be more accepting of Nazi tactics than they like to think.
Oh I remember, my school actually performed a play of this book and we read it in class, for me it was even before we started talking about ww2
By the way: The book bases on a true story from a teacher in die US who made this experiment with his students because they thought that this couldn't happen again and he wants to proof them otherwise. When the experiment went terrible wrong he was getting arrested.
In the original book there's an interview with this teacher when he was in prison.
F*cking good movie.
There are more than one movie called the wave.
We actually also read the book in german class and also watched the movie. It still gives me the chills how all of this could just happen all over again...
Pretty accurate tbh. I had the luck to have an amazing History Teacher - sepcially with that Topic - beginning of the "Golden 20's" (wich started everything tbh .. having no job, no money - heck, they went to the backery store with a trunk FULL of Money to buy ONE bread) and than this one idiot, telling all the loudmouths what they wanted to hear) till the end of the war.
And yes we get taught more about the "social" stuff and not too much about the regional effects of the war (as mentioned with the expanding).
But my Teacher always told us - "Guys - this by far isnt a funny Topic .. you must not feel guilty about it, but treat it with the respect it deserves!" Which is what at least i did. I am not proud about the younger history of my country and i understand if people have a certain way of feeling about Germany, but it was not my fault and i certainly have nothing to do with the ideas these people had - which i say, because there are so many people out there, pointing the finger at "us" and still recall everything bad that happend at that time - which is nearly 100 years ago.
Many people in comments say nice things about Germany - either they spent time here for their holidays or even moved here to study or to work - quite frankly that is fantastic! Thank you!
Thx for writing an essay
I have liked everything Mr. Whistler has been in. I like this format very much. Thank you.
German here: just fnished school. Quite accurate but I would say that I personally have never felt responsible for those atrocities rather it‘s a sense of responsibility to not let something like this happen again that I gained from those classes, which is way more important and more constructive imho. Also please visit a memorial concentration camp if you ever get the chance to. It‘s terrible and really gruesome but it really let‘s you see and feel the horrible things that were done and empathize with the victims. A museum about the Holocaust or WWII in General can be a similar experience if it‘s done well. (There‘s one in Berlin which really made me cry)
I'm British and I agree. I don't believe that the Germans of today should be held responsible for what happened 75 years ago. This was an interesting video. And it's interesting to read a comment from a German person on the subject 👍
it is the grim silence of walking around a holocaust memorial that makes one realise the horrors of the nazi regime. in my opinion everyone around the world should see it and realise what hate can do. And not just hate but ignorance as well.
for we should never forget: its not just the nazis who practized genozid and caused horror among the people. in fact it is still happening today around the globe. and it makes me furious and desperate. totaliterian regimes are on the rise again, but what can we do to stop it? how can we prevent or at least end it?
we can at least question our governments decisions and our own prejudices and fears. speak openly about racism, talk to new people, hear new opinions, engage in politics and always know:
there ist no 'them and us', we are ALL part of the human race.
thanks for reading through it all. greetings from germany.
As well you shouldnt that's like saying as an American I should feel responsible for slavery. You can be taught to have disdain for the actions committed by our ancestors without the guilt
True you should not feel responsible or guilty at all! Even if you had family that were Nazis. You have no control over any of that. Learn from the past and live so it never happens again.
No German need to apologize to me. And no German should apologize for WW2, none of them needs to pay for the madman on the leadership.
The teaching about Nazis and their crimes is not supposed to make you feel guilty, but to make you feel responsible to never let such things ever happen again. There are right wings in germany who call this history a "memorial of shame" and want to change the way we look at our past, but I feel proud for the way we get teached history considering how history is teached in other places.
Well it is kind of a memorial of shame. The fact that they let this happen back in the day. But it should also serve as a memory to not let this happen again and that's what the average citizen is telling people to not let this happen again that reminds them to never let that type of brutality enter their country again and I agree with that no country should be that way at all
The Germans suffered enough in the aftermath. Fascism, as with all forms of authoritarian socialism, must be guarded against, and never should it's Marxist roots be forgotten. The participation of the Soviets against the fascists, and so their position as victors, allowed them and their trash ideology to slip through the cracks and infiltrate the West with relatively little resistance, in part because of the disingenuous presentation of Marxism as somehow diametrically opposite to fascism; it is certainly not. Fascism is gone. Marxism is an ongoing and vile threat, however.
Not being mean just trying to help based on the assumption that English is a second language (it’s my first and I still make mistakes). The past tense of teach is taught.
@@doubtshadow1 fascism is very much NOT socialism💀 fascism is far right authoritarian ultranationalism.
Fascism opposes marxist/socialist ideologies completely.
Someone did u wrong in your edu there bud...
@@bradjohns6442 I wanted to correct OP too but I didn’t know how to correct them without unintentionally sounding rude. Glad you did it whilst sounding nice lol!
Hey! Just came across this video, I would be very interested to see a similar video regarding the Cyprus problem, being a Turkish Cypriot myself I have attempted to expose myself to both sides of the story but some of the "grey areas" would be interesting to hear.
I find your program extremly valuable, real food for thoughts. Only one tiny proposal: Could you speak little bit slower? It will help your listeners to reflect during you speak. Good job!
Considering recent events, I feel like Jana aus Kassel wasn't taught about Sophie Scholl and WWII properly
🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
If youre wondering who the hell Jana aus Kassel is, she is a girl/young woman who compared herself to Anne Frank because of the Corona Lockdown. All whilst participating in a completely legal demonstration and trying to hold a speech against said Lockdown.
Needless to say, she is being mocked quite a bit.
@@darnoc4470 as someone from Kassel, i would be pretty happy, if i would see positive headlines some time in the future. But maybe this city is just to messed up xD
@@darnoc4470 sorry to correct you. But she said she related to Sophie Scholl, the woman mentioned in the video as well. Though an 11year old girl stated before at a similar event, that she feels like Anne Frank. The Anne Frank thing was “popular” to relate at the start of the pandemic online, not just Germany but general, I believe.
@@duchessred5426 Damn, mixed that up, thanks for correcting!
Having visited Germany in 2016, as part of a exchange programme... they wear their history on their sleeve. They are not proud of it, but they will not deny it. One of the German students I spoke to told me how they must always strive to ensure they never go back to that. They are truly committed to being fantastic people.
Wish I had kept contact with my host family, I'd like to make more German friends.
Of course they won’t deny it wtf 😂 damn near everyone knows about wwII , if they were to deny it they’d look like hypocrites maybe like sympathizers any smart German would definitely not deny it
@@myron8676 And Japan should probably take queues from Germany on that front
@@myron8676 as much as this angers and enrages me there are Americans who dont believe that the Holocaust happened...WW2 hurts their feelings and it scares me so much as personally i love history and my kids WILL know the real history when i feel like theyll comprehend it. I dont know if by then they will even teach it in schools here at least what really happened because this can never happen again
@@myron8676 the US, particularly the south, has been denying our racist past for the last couple centuries...don't think people won't deny it.
@@JoeMcknart69 don't understand what their problem is about accepting and moving on and trying to be better. Don't understand why they wouldn't actually deny something like that and makes no sense to me. Unless they figured denial makes the shame go away. And yet it doesn't
From the German people that I've known, they've sort of taught me how much their people have come from a logical and moral standpoint. I asked my good friend about her experiences learning about the nazi regime growing up. I've always been curious about what it would be like to be taught that your country and people had been responsible for some of the most immoral and disgusting atrocities in human history, but there was a very interesting perspective that she had that, yes the Germans had fallen short and made alot of these mistakes and it's apparent to most Germans growing up how horrible these atrocities were, but from that they had used their empathy and experiences to move forward and create some pretty steadfast moral ideologies in order to stop themselves from making those mistakes again. She even posited the idea that Germans are very direct for this reason: they have learned from an early age to point out the flaws and irregularities in certain thought processes and are quick to point them out. They are well aware of their mistakes in the past and are very sure to correct them. Sadly, as an Australian, it's unfortunate that we aren't as aware of the history of our country. We were conquered by the English and there was slot if atrocities that the they committed toward Aboriginals that slot of us aren't even aware of.
This was beautifully outlined
Very interesting. Will you be covering post-WWII Japanese education? I would be interested to learn of it in this format.
As far as I can tell they think the war was a 'mistake' and otherwise avoid dealing with it. Mistake does not seem to be much of an admission that it was wrong. But I don't even live there. Its just what I have read about it, and that was not much.
I would be interested in this as well. Same thing for Russia/Soviet Union/former countries that were a part of the Warsaw pact.
I second that motion
That would be interesting to know.
Blow up these comments with likes. I wanna see these videos happen. Particularly the ones about Japan and the USSR.
Germany: we accept our atrocities and strive to make sure they never happen again
Japan: world war what?
“Huh”
I mean, this can be applied to many major countries like the US and the UK. From what I now, the schools don´t really emphasize the bad things from the past. If I am wrong, please correct me.
@@adrianbollmann2088 I’m English and they never taught us about most of the atrocities and racism and shit the empire did or how Irish people used to be really oppressed. To be fair we do lean about some bad stuff the country did from medieval times and Henry VIII but not really anything in the past 100 years.
Edit: I feel like I should point out that I only did history in secondary school and not collage or anything like that so there’s chances that you learn about the empire more later on in education.
Lmfao
In Russia: We are proud of our Soviet history. Killings were necessary for the greater good. Gulags were for bad people. The collapse of the Soviet Union was set up by the west and Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin were traitors for letting it happen and Stalin was a hero while Lenin revolutionized Russia. Putin is doing good for the country and the world.
this is super interesting, keep it up 🎉
As a german student I can say that everything he´s saying is quite right and well researched. Well done!
I am German and I can still remember 2 years ago, we visited the concentration camp dachau in 10th grade. You just felt so uncomfortable standing in that wide gravel field and the enormous tree lined pathways, knowing that thousands had to suffer through the worst thing imaginable day in and day out.
my class did that aswell we where 15 and honestly we could not take it serious at that age also there where like 5 germans in the class the rest where turkish and russian kids so we joked a lot about the nazi times all in all nobody cared exept for the teacher we wanted to see guns and all the cool stuff but today i can reflect back to that moments and can remember what i saw so it served its purpose even tho half of the class was drunk like on almost every school trip
Do you feel the same way walking in cities that were bombed into complete destruction? If not, you've been emotionally manipulated
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 im just not attached to it i mean yeah that people had a really bad time but that does not make me feel bad i was not there so i dont feel the pain. I also have enough things to worry about in my own life so if i would get sad by something like that i might aswell get myself into an mental asylum
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 I did feel bad when I walked through Dresden for all the people that died during bombing but it's completely different than visiting a concentration camp. Like srsly, those places were literaly factories made for killing people as efectively as possible, that's the most inhumane thing ever.
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 I still do when I walk through Berlin. Because of WW2 and the iprisonment and spying on of innocent people in the DDR.
Watching this as a German makes me feel like Hermione taking Muggle Studies.
Did not expect a Harry Potter reference in the comments, but I love it.
Yes that's quite accurate comparison. As a German you know what should be in the Video and you are curious if they get it right and how much you will see which isn't correct. I think it was a really good Video that paints a good picture of how it is taught here in Germany. The only thing i was missing was a mentioning of the film "Schindlers Liste". Everything else was definately there.
Some of us from the States think Uber means “car for hire”. We want to know this stuff.
Kristie C well sorry but Uber is not a word. Only the Americanised version on an actual word. The word you mean is über and even that usually doesn’t comes close to the meaning Americans attribute to it 🤣
is that something from game of thrones or something?
I’m a German student in history advanced class and that’s accurate tho we also learned the events of the war itself but not that much in detail
As the spouse of a GI, I spent 3 years in Germany in the 1960s, 20 years after the war ended. I visited Dachau. There were still some large buildings bearing pockmarks from the war. But Germany was largely rebuilt. I wondered so often how the people felt about the Nazis and the war. We had German friends. We were welcomed wherever we went. I never asked questions. One elderly couple rented us an apartment. The wife proudly told us that her husband had been a major. I had decided in my mind that he must have been in the Wehrmacht rather than the SS. I always wondered what kids were taught in school, what people were told afterwards. Your video explains all this very clearly. It’s important to know everything you brought up. Thank you!
I looked at the thumbnail and my mind instantly went like: *"hey vsauce, Michael here!"*
Same
Me too
I was confused when i heard his voice, I thought it was Vsauce 😅
Took the words right out of my mouth
“Hey Michael, vsauce here!”
Video title: *has "german" in it*
60% of the comments: "As a rare german in the wide foreign fields of englishspeaking youtube, I can..."
We feel a strange sense of acknowledgement when America-senpai notices us.
@@Karash770 He's British not American
@@georgehh2574 Britain, America, Canada and Australia, same thing
Miqseri GX That’s funny
@@miqseri Ask a Bavarian if he's the same as a Prussian. Or a German if he's the same as a Austrian.
Idk why this video popped up for me.
Im now a new sub
I, as a recent German high school graduate, do agree with the point of history lessons being a bit to focused on this topic, but I also find it extremely important that people like me who otherwise wouldn't know much about all of this are sensitive towards this topic and groups of people and their ancestors who it has effected in horrifying ways both in and outside of Germany. I'm glad that I am from Germany, I'm very blessed to have grown up in a country like Germany but I'm still deeply ashamed of the past this nation has had. For me the most important thing is that something like WW2 or 1 for that matter (best case scenario any war) ever happens again. There should be nothing more important than freedom and happiness for people who just want to live their lives in peace and respect others. I mean no matter where you are from we are all the same just trying to live our lives happily trying to protect the ones we love. Why are there so many people who can't see what they are doing to others because of such irrelevant things.
yeah, hitler was gassed in ww1 and went crazy, then he became addicted to hard drugs so.... yeah. INSANE. but sure such terrible war must be avoided!
Being German, I have to say that atleast from my experience not a feeling of 'original sin' as you say, but more a responsibility to never let such a similar thing to happen again. A task we seem to be failing at considering our non-commital stance towards China's cultural/ethnic cleansing of minorities and other cases
Sadly humans are destructive by nature and they need to evolce past their ego and grow eq and self awareness
That sums it up pretty well. The mantra which is taught is less "you did that" and more "Never again". It is our job to learn from history and ensure that it will never happen again. And frankly, it should be the job of everyone, not just us.
Exactly
@jdtrickster4 and Israel too. The amount of human right violations and illegal activity they partake in without punishment is insane. Like how the US *would* be punished for selling weapons to N.Korea but Israel *did* get away with it.
hydro wolf Israel is the only democratic country in the Middle East, country’s have done worse than selling weapons to n nkorea
I’d love to see a video on How do Japanese Schools teach WWII. You’ll be amazed.
There's nothing wrong with how it is done here. If you want to feel guilty fine lol
Joo dee: there was no massacre in Nanjing
@@ExtraVictory so... no problem with historical revisionism or the mistakes of the japanesse educational system when teaching WW2... right.
@@ExtraVictory mate, Japan completely ignore their dirty hands against of East Asia. This is why there is still some Japanese student that didn't know they do a genocide to this day against ton of countries
Japan approach:
-Rape Nanking way too hard
-Loose WWII even harder with 2 atomic bombs
-Play victim
As a german Student who is learning all the stuff mentioned hear right now I can say that this video is really really good!
My gr 12 teacher was a legend. Wrote his own textbook. Recited it all from memory not like he was reading but just telling a story. He talked about Stalingrad being the turning point for the Germans losing the war. The Russian winter
I'm a German who spent a year in America, going to High School. When I found out that the pledge of allegiance was a thing it made me feel extremely uncomfortable and despite some teachers' outrage, I refused to participate. Took me a little while to understand just why I found the POA as well as the national anthem being sung at assemblies so unsettling. Many years later now, I do. And this video makes quite the point for it. I wish this existed in 2012 so I could have shown it to all my teachers who gave me dirty looks for not standing and saluting a flag.
Huh. I wonder if they had expected an American student abroad to salute a foreign flag and pledge allegiance to that country...
@@Quallenkrauler Can't speak for other countries but in Germany that surely would not happen :'D
I mean, germans are patriotic, we just arent as loud about it. Its quiet, behind closed doors and never accompanied with some song or flag, just a few sentences hushed when watching the news and some foreign country/politician/company fucks up again. Overt displays of patriotism are just viewed as childish in germany, so what you felt probably was some type of lowkey cringe when everyone stood up to hail some flag.
for us we didn’t have to pledge if we either A didnt want to or B weren’t from the US
I'm American but as a kid I always refused I dnt remember why but I think the teachers said I just had to stand I didn't have to put hand to heart or say it. But I think another teacher mightve said I could stay seated.
As a Dutch person, I have always wondered why our eastern neighbours are so conscious about their history. After seeing this video and reading the comments, everything makes sense now.
Germans are I think one of the most polite folks of Europe nowadays. They have truely built an amazing nation which I have had the pleasure of spending a couple of holidays in.
Viel Liebe einer Ihrer westlichen Nachbarn.
thank you so much! Thats soooo cute und viel liebe zurück
Hey from germany. Its nice that you find us nice. Same goes Back to you. Dutch people are so lovely
Hey, thats very nice to hear as a german. But believe me, Germany have a lot of political problems too. Not as much as the USA or even authoratic states, like Russia and China, but we have worrying right wing parties and stupid people, who call themselves "Querdenker" or people, who deny the climate change. This parties and people call the democracy in Question and are a very serious danger for our Country. But still I agree, we have mostly very good history lessons and this is something we can proud of.
Wenn sie das deutsche Volk so betrachten, waren sie sicherlich noch nicht auf Mallorca.
Germans....."....polite...." ....haha....that might be you ........both mine and others has several experiences with Germans being mind blowing rude/aggressive, including being physical violent..... Personally I found it a relief to get across the border into the Netherlands. I know people who travelled to Germany to attend a science conference..... They were never able to get to that conference, but left Germany immediately.... ...a country which they will never visit again......guess why.... There are certainly good and friendly people also, but there are to many in that country with to much arrogance and aggressive genes.... I have been in a lot of other countries but never experienced something like the German style....
I expected the worst when i read the title because many people think germany doesnt deal with its history but i got to say you have done really good Research, thats actually the way we get teached in germany, at least i hope so, i had luck with my history teacher but i sadly have to say that sometimes it gets portrayed in a fascinating way more than it makes people fear war, which sadly is showing in recent politics...
Thank you european vsauce. This was very informative and entertaining.
I always wondered what the Russians teach about Joseph Stalin.
It's quite obvious... Considering that Russia denies any occupations and war crimes done in the occupied territories (not even mentioning the large list of crimes done inside the USSR before the war) and plays the victim. It's triggering and disgusting.
Spaniard triggering lol
@@dacoda8220 The hypocrisy of it all triggers me.
@@armands3153 The Soviet Union was awesome and needs to come back
@@harryt.5068 ah yes, war crimes and forceful compliance a plenty.
I taught History in Hamburg, Germany from 1972 thru 1979. Believe me, those.kids got the whole story. Parents were upset and complained, but the school.backed me up and the whole story came out a number of times, school.grade by school grade.
I agree those kids need to know that shit happend there all of that torture those peoples were expirienceing it isnt humane
JEWISH OPINION BTW
@@LaVilder should it be something special cause its a "jewish opinion"?
Do you guys teach all your history? Because in Canada we teach about all the horrible things we did to native Americans but I have never heard about what we did to Asians. I only learned about the atrocities we committed against asians through my mother. It’s like focusing on the Holocaust, but only The Holocaust and nothing else.
Frankly, I thought it was to much / to often. At one point I just stopped caring about WW2 at all because every school year there were month' of history class dedicated to WW2 and I just thought "I got it, it was bad and the Nazis were bad, I get it, you don't have to repeat it for the 100th time".
What do you mean by “the whole story “?
Excellent, Simon.
I’ve always wondered this thank you
There is a quote by Juli Zeh: "If you've been raised in Germany after the 1980ies you've had the topic of the Holocaust in every school-subject exept for maybe maths at least once."
Just thinking about how ridiculus it Sounds, its probably true. History, German, Englisch, Music, Politics, even Biology at one point
@@eliasgerlin609 Not to forget education science about the Hitler youth!
@@eliasgerlin609 we talked about it also in geography, art, economy. We even briefed the topic in programming and Physics
Yup like we've been constantly told how awful we are in every bloody subject
There used to be two Germanies. Two different educations.
DDR changed education at school in 1990 at the earliest.
Remember, there used to be a wall in Germany.
The Wall came down in 9th November 1989.
It is nine-eleven put down the German way of writing dates.
Sachsen, Thüringen, Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern were GDR.
They had to change school programs after reunion with BRD.
They had to change from Russian as a second language to English as a second language.
Geography was mainly taught Eastern Europe as they were not allowed to travel to western countries.
So history was taught different in GDR, I guess.
No matter on which side of the wall, education was important. It was for free for everybody.
I grew up in western Germany. Remember being sick and tired of WW II and Holocaust as I had it at school minimum three times.
Anne Frank's diary in German language class was OK and interesting. Kids still have Anne Frank's diary nowadays.
Families in GDR with educated parents and grandparents always found a way to gather knowledge. When Western families came to visit,
books, tapes and information as well as certain foods and other items wiggled through to people in GDR.
Border patrol always took their share.
A classmate was very proud. She smuggled a tape with Bee Gees music to her cousin in her bra.
Young people cannot imagine nowadays how it was back in the 1980ies.
Internet takes any music to any place on earth.
My classmate took a high risk. Her parents did have no clue and the music was highly appreciated from her cousins, friends etc.
Lots of movies show this time of Germany. Even comedies are being made.
Watch
das Leben der anderen mit Martina Gedeck about GDR
Good bye Lenin mit Daniel Brühl about end of GDR, a comedy.
Expected him to say “Hey Vsauce, Michael here”
Same
I thought he was Michael
Same 🤣🤣🤣
Same lol
He would look like Walter white if he shaved his beard a bit likes Walters
As a German teacher, I can agree with every single word in this video. You have done incredibly good research on that, guys!! Well done!
Gernan History A-Levels here. We had the full package. Contemporary Witness accounts, three tours to concentration camps and all the things you describe. It could almost get a bit overwhelming sometimes, the sheer amount of it. But considering the level of importance, it seems necessary. Our teacher went to Auschwitz with us during Winter, so we could get an impression of the most dire conditions. It is very humbling to imagine people suffering on these grounds, malnutritioned, no proper clothes, with no dignity and no hope of coming out of this alive.
We also re-enacted a situation in a 1x2m „standing cell“, where 6-8 people where squeezed in so tight that they had no room to sit down or even go to the toilet. Back then they had to stand in there for long periods of time. The thought of having to endure this is so inhumane, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg…
This guy speaks in the longest sentences I’ve ever heard.
He’s German just look at the German language there’s ur answer
He speaks how research papers write
Your statement shocks me.
Severe wordiness
I like it. I wish I could speak so well and really purely expressive using the most accurate terms possible. It does sound long-winded, but he isn’t hemming and hawing, um-ing, or wasting breath on points that aren’t important.
Funny story: I'm German and went to a high school in Japan for a year. My world history teacher taught about WW2 at this time (we even watched Schindler's List during class) and asked me seriously, if we Germans view Hitler as bad or good. Smh
maybe she meant like are there people that see him that way? idk you’d know how she meant it but just throwing it out there
In India, people view Hitler as a sort of an "amusing grump".
I think that in Japan many people might not know much about modern European views on history but I may be wrong
Comes down to what she actually meant/said. Did she mean all germans or parts of the population? Because we still do have quite a lot of nazis in Germany, which often are very open about their ideology and don‘t act "undercover"
Joey Simek There are many organizations that are extremely right and beyond that there are extremists/neo-nazis that aren’t in organizations. And probably many that will be in a few years. They don’t seem to decrease, so I think it‘s a serious issue. If nazism keeps being taken so lightly, history may repeat itself.
We hosted a German student during the 99-2000 school year, and during a discussion one night I was able to play a recording of part of one of Hitler’s speeches. The young man said he had never heard his voice before ( this was before CZcams) and found what he was saying to be fascinating.
I have an amazing history teacher this year. He is making sure that not only do we get to know the history through texts, films, documentaries, photos, propaganda analysis etc, but that we also get a sense for those "politicians" as people. Showing photos that weren't intended to be seen by the public eye, talking about their upbringings etc. He is teaching us that especially Hitler wasn't some kind of special person, and that his entire public persona was precisely manufactured by using said propaganda. He was just a random guy with terrible views who managed to climb the ladder of politics and caused immesuarable pain and suffering. That his intelligence made him so much more terrifying. Anyone could try to do the same, and that it is our duty to make sure that we never, ever let anything like this happen again.
My teacher puts all those public figures of the past into perspective so we get a feeling of how close this history is to us still.
As a German Student myself this is pretty on point.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm genuinely impressed with the research he made.
It fits with my experience as well
How is ww1 taught? What about Franco Prussian war?
@@cv4809 we don't have time for that. German history lessons are basically French revolution and Nazi regime again and again.
That's the point of the video...what did you think this was a fiction channel LOFL?
As a guy born in Poland, with Polish ancestry, I never once had ill feelings towards Germans of today. I did however always hate Nazis from a young age, not because of indoctrination by the school system or my parents(neither of which ever happened) but rather as a result of being aware of the war as I was growing up. My grandfather's life was spared by a German soldier by the way. His village was being rounded up by the army into trucks, likely to be sent to some sort of a camp. He asked a soldier if he could go to the bathroom, and the soldier answered with a yes. So my grandfather went behind a barn, and then started running for his life across a farm field. He looked back to see that the soldier saw him running but didn't raise an alarm nor try to shoot. He just let him go.
Anyways, you can't blame an entire nation today for the evil deeds of their relatives from the past. That's stupid. They are not the ones who committed the crimes. Let it go and move on, sheesh. If your grandfather was a thief does that make you one too? No.
The Americans could learn a thing or two from this post.
.....Of course if anyone still feels bad, I'll take some German chocolates :D
What a beatiful story
You're absolutely right. No one should be blamed for something their ancestors did. I watched just this morning a documentary about a son from the main war criminal Hans Frank. And he tries to educate people who think for example that the Holocaust never happened or who want the immigrants should "go there, where they come from".
I just hope it doesn't get worse with the anti-Semitism but as the last month's and years showed (e.g. the attack of Halle) many people haven't learned from that bad time age.
Greetings from Germany/Halle
I agree with your thought that the U.S. could learn from this. I feel like the racism in this country has gotten so ugly and out of control. And white people today are targeted as bigots and that we owe other cultures for the slavery of generations ago-even if our families weren’t even American at that point, most not emigrated over yet. I’m white and I’m not racist. I can’t help the systematic racism that some experience, nor did my family ever have any part in owning slaves. In fact, white Irish immigrants were sometimes forced into slave labor once in America. But you don’t hear those descendants berating today’s population. I’m made to feel like I’m hateful, and prejudice, and entitled. When I don’t feel like I am any of those things. It’s so bizarre to me. Blame the actual problem. But why create so much division and hate toward a demographic of people who aren’t the problem?
Can I have some?
“Systemic Racism” in the U.S. is a farce and a ploy used by Marxist groups like BLM.
As a student in Austria I can say that we basically spend about 8-9 months just learning about WW2 in basically every single subject (but mostly in history, german, biology and arts) and we learn how terrible it actually was, seeing gruesome pictures, visiting Mauthausen/Auschwitz everybody has to do about 3 presentations with something concerning WW2 and we have a Memorial Day per year for the jews who had to leave the school because of antisemitism in ww2 (For most of them it was the first step to being murdered) And for this day we also have to write a text or poem/make a presentation/make a video. Also what rarely happens is that someone who lived during WW2 comes to our school and talks about their life- then often even the media comes to listen. So yea we do a lot about this subject
I’m from Florida and the teachers I have had most definitely changed the way I see United States history. In the past, things I had learned were glazed over and chalked up to mistakes anyone could make. The last two teachers I have had have shown me that though these were mistakes anyone could make, many of those people CHOSE to make those mistakes, thus making them responsible and needing to be held accountable for their actions. The shortcomings the United States and associated parties felt due to these individuals or groups were sometimes simply ignored for greater agendas pushed by more powerful individuals or groups who simply pushed things they themselves enjoyed on others. There was a major lack of empathy and compassion for other humans simply because of how hatred was bred towards others simply because of inner struggles that pushed this hatred outward on everyone. Overall, the teachers I have now completely allowed me to see that what went on in my country’s history was far worse than it was made out to be.
We germans love videos from not germans about Germany because we can not really say something good about us. Its quiet a nice and good feeling watching some people arround the world say nice things about germans :)
I’ve heard generally Germans have alwys been very accepting and kind people so when the whole thing with nazis happened it was a bit of a surprise to many
I can write you something else: my Polish grandmother, when asked which occupation was worse? German or Soviet? Without thinking, she stated that the Soviet one: the Germans had rules, they were people, and the Soviets were the wilderness, animals.
I feel sorry for you that you cannot be proud of heroes and war history. The blood on the flag stained the bravery.
Everything then came from pride, hope and poverty. Today, it is a pity that you still treat others with contempt, although, for example, your attitude towards Russians is strange and incomprehensible.
A friend of mine in 1994 died in an accident caused by the Neonazists, he was a Pole and a great actor.
I feel best in Bavaria, there is not so much aversion to Poles there. Unfortunately I don't have the inscription on my forehead that I have half of my family German and brother fought against brother.
@@wa_demon__9156 bruh when "the whole thing with the Nazis" happened Germany was f*cked and already startet a world war a few years before so i guess that wasn't that surprising.
I think Jan Böhmermann summed it up pretty well: "We are proud of not being proud"
100% richtig
The sentence we get to hear the most in history class in germany is "it happened so it could happen again and it is your responsibility to not let that happen"
Thats why history is a subject in school and not only in university
@@philippm9927 history is a subject in school in literally all of europe.
In fact, I'm pretty sure the US *is* the only country that doesn't have it as a mandatory school subject.
@@11Survivor it was for my school
As someone who grew up in the public school system in America's deep South, I think we should take note of this method.
I grew up in the Persian Gulf where I attended an English Private school attended by other expats all over the world. There was a small number of German kids who were with us. All I remember was how they would LOOSE IT whenever we teased them about their country’s Nazi history. The Japanese students in contrast had no freaking idea about Imperial Japan’s atrocities which led to a lot of awkward tension with the other Asian kids (Korean, Chinese, Filipino).
Whenever I get called a nazi because of my origin I get super angry. Most german folk do anything in their power to let fascists know their place. I would gladly injure neo nazis if I had the choice, so when I get called a nazi I feel very attacked.
my Opa came from the Germany and was eventually conscripted after trying to leave by the Nazi's as an engineer , that all I've been told. he never talked or mentioned it, i only found out when my parents told me. but I'm also half English and my grandpa fought for the allies. neither actually ended up on the frontlines. I'm from Australia as both my parents family's had moved here at some point after the war. so here i am being a bit of both. i enjoy learning about these topics as school did an appalling job as we spent a term tiptoeing around, some times actually learning stuff but i feel like i had only been introduced to the topic when we changed to a different one.
i find it interesting tho to see how other country's learn about the war's
This is why I love the quote "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it." I wish we'd get better history teaching in America :(
I guess Putin didn’t learn history
@@iHaveACrushOnPrincessDiana I dont see how?
To be honest with you I wish our entire school system was a lot better.
@@iHaveACrushOnPrincessDiana well it was the exact opposite in russia cause they were the winners. my colleague (born and lived in moscow for her entire childhood) told me that when ww2 (or great patriotic war, as they call it) was taught, it was all on "heros against nazis". No mention of Finland, Poland or anything bad on the russian side. she at first didnt even believe me when i told her about Poland and Finland. she was so shocked when she read about it. makes you wonder....
That quote was by the same guy who said, “ History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people
who weren't there.”
He also believed history changed and should be constantly rewritten. Not that the quote is necessarily wrong, but if he believes truth isn’t even real, it makes you wonder
As a German: how did other countries teach their children about the crimes of WW2?
In South Africa, we were taught about what triggered the war and how it played out with key dates and people of interest. But essentially painting Germany and Russia to be the bad countries. I am always one for 2 sides of a story but couldn't really get anything back then (2004) as South Africa is always behind with technology. Our textbooks were, to me were very outdated. I am a 3rd generation half German on my mother's side as my great grandfather fled the country and would love to visit Germany in the future :) I feel the past is in the past and no one now should be held accountable for things that happened back then.
When I was in school (in Sweden), we learned about the war like described in this video. Every year in my old school the pupils in year 9 went to Berlin to visit a concentration camp, the remains of the Wall and other areas of historical importance. What was the most emotional to me took place before the trip. It was a visit from a survivor of one of the camps who came to Sweden after the war ended as he had no family left.
in the us we talk about what caused the war and the holocaust. heaviest focus on the holocaust. we talk a bit about what drew America into the war. its just generally excepted that the Nazis were horrible.
In Poland we are familiarised only with our perspective of the story.
We heroicise our own nation and have major problems with admitting any singular examples of collaboration.
Oh. And having a thousand years old animosity towards germans we call nazis germans, rather than nazis.
Many poles believe that we were betrayed by our sworn allies - France and Britain, which then backfired on these traitors, because they lost the chance of a favourable military position.
In the Italian part of swizerland, we learned about key points and not really on a philosofical way. We had to learn German too, and there we had a second "hisory" class, from WW1 to the fall of the URSS and how it influenced Germany. So for around 6 month we touched the problem of nazism from a philosofical view instead of a stratigic one.
Interesting video, ty for video
It’s nice to see that they are not avoiding it and are clearly doing all they can to ensure it never happens again.
As a German I wanted to write a comment how accurate it is until I saw the 12000 comments starting with "as a German" XD
As a German, i can say:
Agreed
As an American I'm startng to wonder if all of these people are really Germans.
@@waluigi3515 It’s a German Tradition to watch every Video about German things and after that to write a comment. As a German I also noticed that this got a meme for some Germans.
@@waluigi3515 we are germans🗿
@@youju26 jep, wir übernehmen jede Kommentarsektion, die das Wort "German" im Titel hat...It is honestly really funny to me, just saying...
German schools: that was not very cash money of us
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my price went up, I made it
Bahahah
I have never thought about this until new
This was a really well made and accurate description of what they teach us. For my finals I had the speech of Hitler before he started his attack on the Russians. I had to pick apart the text and unravel the lies told.
Sources like Speeches and Postcards are commonly used by upergrade teachers. (And yes, we can even listen to the original speech recordings of Adolf Hitler)
But on one part I think this video didn’t do the German History classes Justice. We learn much more than just German history. We start at Greek and Roman folk, over Medival times, enlightenment, Napoleon, Imperialism, WW1, WW2, Cold War up to reunion of Germany and end of the Cold War.
I basically clicked on the video to find out how close it is to reality.
It's really accurate to what I learned in school.
I am here for the same reason
And you think what you learned in school was true? What a sheep
Tom Joe tell me what true then, PLEASE! :P
@@tomjoe1599 There are for sure many families which believe every word from the government but there are also german families which questioning the TV and instead believe their own grandfathers or old people from towns and villages.
But in general germans are quite dumb, naiv and easy controlled by fear.
@Kurt Barryman oh boi, u picked up alot of false info
I'm from Germany and everyone I asked was on the same page with me:
We, the new generation are not at fault for the crimes our ancestors did, but we are responsible for stopping history from repeating itself.
Ünd dö möchen wir doch gröde ähnün öchd güden Jöb im Ösden, gel? "Wö word ihr sölvöstah" - Göschüchde wörd sich schon nüschd wüderhölen!
@jotri
That's basically how we (mid US) view you too
@Flawed and Beautiful - I once knew an American exchange student who honestly asked me if Hitler was still King of Germany...
@@MaxMustermann-hy9in
😂😂😂 just wow. It sounds like that person Really needed that exchange
And now its repeating again ... leider
I’m 27 now, but most of the stuff we learned in history class stuck with me, though of course you’re bound to forget some minor details with time. As a child though, I always thought “yeah, I get it, we fucked up, but do we really have to spend so many years just focusing on this instead of other countries?” I am happy we learned about everything now, but I think I was just a child uninterested in history overall. This interested sparked up way later, way after we visited Dachau concentration camp which is why I didn’t really try to really understand what actually went on there. Nowadays I have a better grasp on those things, which is why I’m honestly scared of the political shift that’s going on right now.