Customer support for Proxima is superior. They sent me a video of my watch on a timegrapher, with the lume, and of the watch in daylight before sending it to me. Absolute legends.
I just purchased the Steeldive. After watching your review, even though I liked the Proxima, I think I made the righ choice. Your reviews are very good (you cover all the bases) and fair, and your after-thoughts are very informative. I'm liking your channel more and more.
Overall I think it is the right choice if you're after a Tuna that is great value for money. Thank you for that detailed comment, I do generally try to give alot of thought to my review and like to add something which I personally have learnt or would like the subs to take away.
Got my SD1970 today ,absolutely love it,love quality of build for the money is incredible. Just got the itch again just ordered a SD 1954 hope the quality is equally as good.Its all down to your reviews that i discovered this brand
As far as I know Proxima is more expensive at around 200$ and Steeldive is 130$. I think it's actually a huge difference, and while both of the watches are practically the same, I'd choose the cheaper, which in fact I did (I got my Steeldive Tuna for 100$ on a sale)
I had one, pukka watch, looks like a proper Tuna and better in many ways than the £1,200 & £1,500 Prospex Tuna's. Definitely better looking than the "Street" versions too. You can mod the Tuna-Lite but thats added expense on an already £400 watch (that should be the same price as your Tuna) can't go wrong. I think their SW200 version is good value at £250 tho'.
I think at the price I'd take the SteelDive. Definitely becoming spoilt for options in the Seiko Homage area now! Some very good options at some very affordable prices.
Think the Proxima shroud is the same as the one I put on my Seiko Tuna-Lite, identical design anyway. You can't really tell from Proxima's pics online but then that's the beauty of watching The Watcher's excellent reviews. Thanks.
My Proxima Tuna arrived about an hour ago! It has the same red dial as your Proxima Samurai model..I am more than impressed. Got it on the rubber strap for £138 in the 11.11 sale which I think is a bargain!
Fine vid Sir. Like all collectors/addicts, I have a couple of real high end watches (In 1969 @ 15 I bought my first Swiss Chronograph….a Baylor/Heuer Bi Pax World Timer…….from my Dad, a 14K Omega dress watch from the 70’s) etc. But what I LOVE to collect are in the $300.00 to $2K. The 2K is a new limit 😭. That is for my Fortis Classic Cosmonaut with a 7750. Wow! You do good reviews in detail. Thanks!
Great review, very objective and detailed, thank's I have a SteelDive 1970 "Captain Willard" on it's way. Steeldive's tuna is next. Maybe the yellow sunburst dail.
Hi, can you tell, what tool you was using at 18:39 , to remove the shroud of Steeldive ? My one , all three screws/Bolts were rounded, can't pull them out of it. Thanks and happy new year.
Great informative video. Bought a SteelDive black PVD version because it was available. Very good value for the money considering it has a Seiko movement. Weighs a ton though.
Steeldive can't compare with Proxima. I have yellow Tuna Steeldive and Proxima MM300. Overall impression that Proxima looks and feels much expensive, Steeldive have that cheap feeling and very sharp edges on watch and sharp edges on bracelet, nice dial, but for 100 dollars more you are getting much more quality from Proxima, with how it looks and feels on hands. When you look at the video, you can notice the difference.
Once again a to the point ,comprehensive review. Steel-dive do seemtohave trodden on Proxima spacey offering a variety of dial color options,andall forlessthan hundred quid.
I like the Proxima far more mainly because of the indices. I would also choose the proxima The different bezel insert. Another difference that I am seeing and maybe it’s just the way the cameras picking it up Is the AR coating Is reflecting as a much brighter blue… What does it look like in person?Show the great review!
I want to like the Proxima but it's too shiny! Also what's with the bezel insert? Had the Steeldive for a while and after replacing the bezel insert for a non lumed with a pip I thought that was ok, especially given the price. These days I have a Seiko SNE 497 the Tuna-Lite, modded with stainless steel shroud and bezel insert plus a Strapcode President bracelet. My only non automatic diver. I've considered going all out for the Full Steel saturation diver Prospex but can't bring myself to spend £1,500 on a battery quartz. Great video as always.
I love the channel and review, very detailed and informative. I'm a recent sub and have been following your channel a bit, really helped make smarter buying decisions in the homage watch market. For the sake of clarity -- These two watches represent two different Tuna designs (Proxima = SBBN007 and Steeldive = SBBN031) and should have been noted to be more accurate in why certain style features differ between the two watches (such as crown design, bezel insert and dial face). I actually wouldn't be cross shopping these two against each other, rather I'd try to find the best SBBN031 homage as that is the one I prefer (for example). Not a complaint by any means, just a note to say some of us are after very specific homages. Also, are any of the homages properly sealed for the depth rating? Or is it only for casual swimming only? (Something I've always wondered with these higher quality homages).
Hey, I love your comment and i think you've made a fair comment too. I will be honest as I can't keep up with the different styles of tuna out there, there are as much tuna variants from Seiko as there are homages to it. Specially when it comes to the Tuna, so I actually rely on enthusiasts like yourself to put their info into the comments. I've said that from early on in my reviews, I really enjoy having the type of subscriber base I have as they fill in any gaps in my knowledge. The reason for the comparison, most of us don't have a clue of which specific tuna this is homaging and it is just a tuna vs. Tuna. Rather than compare likeliness I try n focus on actual build quality differences. Stay subbed and feel free to add your input into the comments. I will be sure to mention any useful info in a next review. That being said I have another 2 Tuna's coming up, a homage and the real deal 1KM
Rinaldi studio press Thanks for your insightful minutia. To most, it's TUNA vs. Tuna and much as I Love SEIKO watches, Particularly the TUNA I never knew each TUNA had distinguishable, subtle identifiers. Thanks again. SBBN0331 is my favorite also.
Looking from afar, it is obvious that the proxima is way better on the looks and finishing and, off course, double the price. I would choose steeldive, tough, cause it's better value for the money. Anyways, them both are awesome watches.
I do love the Seiko Marine Master so in the future i will buy one.I currently have a Marine master homage one.it is called LTM or UTM.It has a NH36 movement.The watch is pretty heavy.They claim it is sapphire crystal which has a blue tint,it feels very thick and strong.I replaced the original strap with a Rolex style butterfly one.Think i paid 160/70 quid i do like it,it feels strong.
I have a Red SD tuna. Got it for 94 bucks on sale. I love the lumed bezel. No way would i pay another 100 for the prox. Steeldive rocks. Have a 1970 SD In green and in black. Now i think i need a 1972 in blue compare against the seiko king turtle. I suspect there wont be much difference… except the Steeldive bezel will be lumed :)
I would say imagination, both dials are 28.5mm. The reason proxima looks smaller is because the crystal has a chamfered edge, therefore visually reducing the diameter slightly. The steeldive has no chamfer
Nice video, thank you. What size hex bit did you use to unscrew Steeldive shroud? I tried to use 1,5 mm, but its too small. 1/16 inch maybe? I’m confused
Just bought a Heimdallr Ocean Monster, are you going to do a review on it? I previously owned a Heimdallr Tuna, and it was excellent, however I decided I just didn't like the design. I believe they are indeed made in the same factories, but the rand owners specie finish and spec.
Hi just started to watch your channel excellent content. In this video comparing the proxima and steel dive tuna ,can you tell which bronze watch are you wearing ? As I am looking to purchase one. Have you completed a review on this? Also what the other watch please ? Thank you
Possibly, maybe using finer brushing material but its machine brushed and circular. You'd have to be careful not to mess with that. It's not thay big of a deal to be honest, its just that Proxima appear to have done it slightly finer
Hi great review as pernomal I haven't bit the bullet as got concers that the 2 steel bracelets won't fit my 9 inch rist can you help does the steeldive going to fit out the box
The próxima page of ali express does not exits any more, i cannot find this watch on the Internet and I want to buy it, can you please help me? Thank you.
I'm sorry, my English is not so good, so I can't understand everything. Which one is the netter choice? One more question: Is it possible to get the Steeldive with a steel bezel like the Proxima?
The Steeldive Tuna is closer to the real Seiko Tuna even the way the shroud is cut. Grading the Steeldive case and stem winder lower is wrong since it is a true copy of the Seiko Professional Tuna.
@@TheWatcherReviews thanks. I cannot get an hex of the proper dimension even if I have a full set of screwdrivers. One is too big and one is to small...
So you need to get a different set, i think you have metric/imperial. Buy a set of hex keys. Going back to your question you dont need to remove shroud to change crown
Customer support for Proxima is superior. They sent me a video of my watch on a timegrapher, with the lume, and of the watch in daylight before sending it to me. Absolute legends.
I just purchased the Steeldive. After watching your review, even though I liked the Proxima, I think I made the righ choice. Your reviews are very good (you cover all the bases) and fair, and your after-thoughts are very informative. I'm liking your channel more and more.
Overall I think it is the right choice if you're after a Tuna that is great value for money. Thank you for that detailed comment, I do generally try to give alot of thought to my review and like to add something which I personally have learnt or would like the subs to take away.
Is it good to buy??
Got my SD1970 today ,absolutely love it,love quality of build for the money is incredible. Just got the itch again just ordered a SD 1954 hope the quality is equally as good.Its all down to your reviews that i discovered this brand
As far as I know Proxima is more expensive at around 200$ and Steeldive is 130$. I think it's actually a huge difference, and while both of the watches are practically the same, I'd choose the cheaper, which in fact I did (I got my Steeldive Tuna for 100$ on a sale)
Yes better value for money
I had one, pukka watch, looks like a proper Tuna and better in many ways than the £1,200 & £1,500 Prospex Tuna's. Definitely better looking than the "Street" versions too. You can mod the Tuna-Lite but thats added expense on an already £400 watch (that should be the same price as your Tuna) can't go wrong. I think their SW200 version is good value at £250 tho'.
Very smart. The Steeldive is way closer in design to the real Seiko Professional Tuna including the shroud design and stem crown.
Really appreciate how thorough that comparison was.
Think I'll wait until Proxima upgrade the bracelet clasp.
Pretty much agree with the all your points mate. That said, id still take the proxima
The Proxima just offers that little bit extra
I would take the cheapest. Will go with steeldive.😁😛
I think at the price I'd take the SteelDive. Definitely becoming spoilt for options in the Seiko Homage area now! Some very good options at some very affordable prices.
I think most people would but i think the real enthusiasts would prefer Tuna. Their dial / overall build quality and QC speaks for itself.
Love the Proxima SS 12hr bezel, the Steeldive is fantastic value for money!
Think the Proxima shroud is the same as the one I put on my Seiko Tuna-Lite, identical design anyway. You can't really tell from Proxima's pics online but then that's the beauty of watching The Watcher's excellent reviews. Thanks.
My Proxima Tuna arrived about an hour ago! It has the same red dial as your Proxima Samurai model..I am more than impressed. Got it on the rubber strap for £138 in the 11.11 sale which I think is a bargain!
Banging! Yes I have one too. Review will be up soon
I have the steel dive with a rubber band on, awesome looking with a great lume on watch and bezel
Fine vid Sir. Like all collectors/addicts, I have a couple of real high end watches (In 1969 @ 15 I bought my first Swiss Chronograph….a Baylor/Heuer Bi Pax World Timer…….from my Dad, a 14K Omega dress watch from the 70’s) etc. But what I LOVE to collect are in the $300.00 to $2K. The 2K is a new limit 😭. That is for my Fortis Classic Cosmonaut with a 7750. Wow! You do good reviews in detail. Thanks!
Great review, very objective and detailed, thank's I have a SteelDive 1970 "Captain Willard" on it's way. Steeldive's tuna is next. Maybe the yellow sunburst dail.
My steeldive arrived yesterday, boy i am just so happy.
I bought the steeldive tuna and was really happy and satisfied with it. Im planning to buy the proxima.
Thanks for the honest and accurate review
Hi, can you tell, what tool you was using at 18:39 , to remove the shroud of Steeldive ? My one , all three screws/Bolts were rounded, can't pull them out of it. Thanks and happy new year.
Very detailed review! Thank you!
I love Proxima. Great product and great to deal with too.
Great informative video. Bought a SteelDive black PVD version because it was available. Very good value for the money considering it has a Seiko movement. Weighs a ton though.
Cool video, really thorough and detailed. Very helpful!
Steeldive can't compare with Proxima. I have yellow Tuna Steeldive and Proxima MM300. Overall impression that Proxima looks and feels much expensive, Steeldive have that cheap feeling and very sharp edges on watch and sharp edges on bracelet, nice dial, but for 100 dollars more you are getting much more quality from Proxima, with how it looks and feels on hands. When you look at the video, you can notice the difference.
Once again a to the point ,comprehensive review. Steel-dive do seemtohave trodden on Proxima spacey offering a variety of dial color options,andall forlessthan hundred quid.
Been eyeing the steeldive tuna and your review has definitely assisted in emptying my wallet yet again!!😄
Steeldive for me , they're a great little watch for little money
This is the best in detailed video I have seen of the tuna!
Fantastic!!!!!
Glad you liked it!!
I think that lume test Pretty much made them score even
I like the Proxima far more mainly because of the indices. I would also choose the proxima The different bezel insert. Another difference that I am seeing and maybe it’s just the way the cameras picking it up Is the AR coating
Is reflecting as a much brighter blue… What does it look like in person?Show the great review!
Nice review....I'll keep to the sterile tuna by steeldive.
I want to like the Proxima but it's too shiny! Also what's with the bezel insert? Had the Steeldive for a while and after replacing the bezel insert for a non lumed with a pip I thought that was ok, especially given the price. These days I have a Seiko SNE 497 the Tuna-Lite, modded with stainless steel shroud and bezel insert plus a Strapcode President bracelet. My only non automatic diver. I've considered going all out for the Full Steel saturation diver Prospex but can't bring myself to spend £1,500 on a battery quartz. Great video as always.
Great video. Very instructive indeed
Steel dive sterile! But if going for a logo tuna homage... Heimdallr's shark looks great. Plus options for monoblock 1k or two piece.
I love the channel and review, very detailed and informative. I'm a recent sub and have been following your channel a bit, really helped make smarter buying decisions in the homage watch market.
For the sake of clarity -- These two watches represent two different Tuna designs (Proxima = SBBN007 and Steeldive = SBBN031) and should have been noted to be more accurate in why certain style features differ between the two watches (such as crown design, bezel insert and dial face). I actually wouldn't be cross shopping these two against each other, rather I'd try to find the best SBBN031 homage as that is the one I prefer (for example).
Not a complaint by any means, just a note to say some of us are after very specific homages.
Also, are any of the homages properly sealed for the depth rating? Or is it only for casual swimming only? (Something I've always wondered with these higher quality homages).
Hey, I love your comment and i think you've made a fair comment too. I will be honest as I can't keep up with the different styles of tuna out there, there are as much tuna variants from Seiko as there are homages to it. Specially when it comes to the Tuna, so I actually rely on enthusiasts like yourself to put their info into the comments. I've said that from early on in my reviews, I really enjoy having the type of subscriber base I have as they fill in any gaps in my knowledge.
The reason for the comparison, most of us don't have a clue of which specific tuna this is homaging and it is just a tuna vs. Tuna. Rather than compare likeliness I try n focus on actual build quality differences. Stay subbed and feel free to add your input into the comments. I will be sure to mention any useful info in a next review.
That being said I have another 2 Tuna's coming up, a homage and the real deal 1KM
Rinaldi studio press Thanks for your insightful minutia. To most, it's TUNA vs. Tuna and much as I Love SEIKO watches, Particularly the TUNA I never knew each TUNA had distinguishable, subtle identifiers.
Thanks again.
SBBN0331 is my favorite also.
Looking from afar, it is obvious that the proxima is way better on the looks and finishing and, off course, double the price. I would choose steeldive, tough, cause it's better value for the money. Anyways, them both are awesome watches.
Nice video, thanks
I do love the Seiko Marine Master so in the future i will buy one.I currently have a Marine master homage one.it is called LTM or UTM.It has a NH36 movement.The watch is pretty heavy.They claim it is sapphire crystal which has a blue tint,it feels very thick and strong.I replaced the original strap with a Rolex style butterfly one.Think i paid 160/70 quid i do like it,it feels strong.
I think LTM is San martin, but the factory brand LUGYOU
@@TheWatcherReviews You are right it came in the orange San Martin plastic case.
I have a Red SD tuna. Got it for 94 bucks on sale. I love the lumed bezel. No way would i pay another 100 for the prox. Steeldive rocks. Have a 1970 SD In green and in black. Now i think i need a 1972 in blue compare against the seiko king turtle. I suspect there wont be much difference… except the Steeldive bezel will be lumed :)
Is it my imagination or is the Proxima dial actually smaller than the one fitted to the Steeldive.....
I would say imagination, both dials are 28.5mm. The reason proxima looks smaller is because the crystal has a chamfered edge, therefore visually reducing the diameter slightly. The steeldive has no chamfer
Is the próxima tuna with the meteorite dial worth it? Or would it better to just modify it myself?
Nice video, thank you. What size hex bit did you use to unscrew Steeldive shroud? I tried to use 1,5 mm, but its too small. 1/16 inch maybe? I’m confused
Just bought a Heimdallr Ocean Monster, are you going to do a review on it? I previously owned a Heimdallr Tuna, and it was excellent, however I decided I just didn't like the design. I believe they are indeed made in the same factories, but the rand owners specie finish and spec.
Heimdallr ocean monster? Do you mean the monster homage ? Yes i have one en route, should be here very soon
Who makes these undecorated movesments? are these made by Seiko or is it clone of the Seiko NH35.
Made by Seiko Epson and released for 3rd party use
@@TheWatcherReviews Thank you again
Hi just started to watch your channel excellent content.
In this video comparing the proxima and steel dive tuna ,can you tell which bronze watch are you wearing ? As I am looking to purchase one. Have you completed a review on this? Also what the other watch please ?
Thank you
what happened to your left thumb?
What about San Martin tuna? Are you going to do comparison between the three of them?
Have you mod the bezel insert on the steeldive? Does the insert size match any other seiko watch? Like Skx or turtle maybe?
I think the bezel insert on the Tuna will accept skx 007 bezel inserts
@@TheWatcherReviews okay, thanks for the info
What o you think is superior in this kind of comparison... Steeldive or heimdallr
Steeldive and Addiesdive tuna are the same? There is $22 difference between them.
Are the shroud interchangeable ?, can you use the shroud of the proxima on the steeldive ?
I believe so but not tested
What size are the Steel dive screws? Nothing I had fits them. Thanks!!
Can man brush steeldive so it becomes better?
Possibly, maybe using finer brushing material but its machine brushed and circular. You'd have to be careful not to mess with that. It's not thay big of a deal to be honest, its just that Proxima appear to have done it slightly finer
Hi great review as pernomal I haven't bit the bullet as got concers that the 2 steel bracelets won't fit my 9 inch rist can you help does the steeldive going to fit out the box
The steeldive will fit and do should the Proxima. Steeldive more so as i think the bracelet is bigger
@@TheWatcherReviews thanks forgetting back to me what type is the steel bracelets have the to watches thanks
The próxima page of ali express does not exits any more, i cannot find this watch on the Internet and I want to buy it, can you please help me? Thank you.
The video is too old and some links don't work, best looking at a newer video. I've covered Proxima in great detail.
@@TheWatcherReviews Thank you for your respond, help me find a watch like this one in 48mm... I will be very greatfull with you.
I'm sorry, my English is not so good, so I can't understand everything.
Which one is the netter choice?
One more question:
Is it possible to get the Steeldive with a steel bezel like the Proxima?
The proxima is finished better, Higher quality of parts. Steeldive bettee value for money. The bezel insert is same as skx007
The Steeldive Tuna is closer to the real Seiko Tuna even the way the shroud is cut. Grading the Steeldive case and stem winder lower is wrong since it is a true copy of the Seiko Professional Tuna.
Thats not what the criteria was, it was better quality between the 2, not closest to the OG but good points 👍🏽
Which screw are you using to remove steeldive crown saver?
Its a hex screw, it needs to be the right screw and turn slowly with force
@@TheWatcherReviews the dimension of the hex? I have a full set but I cannot find it
@@davidepalmaghini7693 i haven't measured the dimensions
@@TheWatcherReviews thanks. I cannot get an hex of the proper dimension even if I have a full set of screwdrivers. One is too big and one is to small...
So you need to get a different set, i think you have metric/imperial. Buy a set of hex keys. Going back to your question you dont need to remove shroud to change crown
What make /model is that bronze watch on your left wrist fella?
The proxima samurai bronze
@@TheWatcherReviews nice one, have you done a video on it?
@@fractalofgod6324 yes i have..just look through my videos and you'll find the bronze Proxima
@@TheWatcherReviews yeah I just watched it brother... Thanks man.