my 2012 skidoo 600 tec sounded like that, changed ecm, tps, gas sensor, still sounded bad like urs then i plugged off the rave valve sensor and it started very well, then changed rave valve sensor/clip thing and now it runs and goes like a dream :)
Thanks for this video. Appreciate you taking the time to make these vids. I dont have a tester (can you link that one you have?) but hope you can help with my issue. '15 800r etec is new to me and has been starting fine. It's been below zero fahrenheit the last couple days and this issue just started in that time so wondering if its related to temps. Anyway the screwdriver trick (thanks for that) started the sled. Whats interesting is that if I run it, then turn it off to do a gas fill up or something it will start after. However if I let it sit for more time (30 mins or moreish) it wont start and I'll have to jump it again. It sits on a trickle charger most of the time so battery is full. Any thoughts? I swapped both fuses too and issue persists.
Same problem on my 2012 800 looks like the same sled. Thought is was the relay so I replaced it and still nothing at the start button. Fires up when I cross it so I will follow your steps and we will see. Thanks for the tips!!
HELP! I'm new to sledding and bought a used Ski Doo 2008 MXZ X 800r. Having issues with hand grip warmers....at idle, I turn the switch on and the grips heat up right away (shows on the display) then shuts off approx 15-30 seconds but still showing ON on the display. Took it out Friday and ran it up and down the trail at high RMP with same result. If I flip the switch off then back on, it does the same thing. Also, the thumb warmer does the same thing. Thanks!
Very helpful video, I don’t have switch power but everything else’s test out. I jumped my fuses but still had and issue. Any ideas on what else it could be?
Hey Bobby, and ohters I have a 2012 GSX SE 1200 with the same exact symptoms. It has been to the dealer 2X where they changed out the battery and then the battery ground wires do to corrosion IF I do the solenoid screwdriver post connections, It will try to fire but fuel pump etc is not operational by doing this so it will not start but turns over. I have swapped the 2 relays with known working ones (identical sled) as well as start button fuse and main fuse with same result. ***The only way I have had any success in getting it to run is tipping on its side and letting it fall, or picking it up from rear bumper and dropping it a few times.*** Once started, it will run as normal (even go into reverse) until you shut it down again. Looking to see what your thoughts are. My next task I think is to look at the wiring at the starter motor itself (Thinking something is loose where it starts if you beat it up) Thoughts?? Thanks for your time. And keep up the great videos
how (what type of wire) and where would i ground my solenoid? When you say at the end of your video you jumped the fuse what did you do. I can't see in the video what you had done. Thanks
They can! Once water gets in there and feeezes it’s all over. Sounds like a starter issue. Try hitting the starter when it’s not turning or jump the starter manually
Thank you , I’m currently on the road , I will give you a more detailed repsonce shortly. I se BRP has a new part number for the control . If I’ll you in as to what I found in my diagnosis in the future Email.For now Thank you for your prompt reply
man I wish it were this easy on this 2013 rev xu 600. I did the screw driver trick on the solenoid but no spark, used the handle bar start button but there's a super weak connectivity and barely spits out the starter. a few other wrench savy guys had looked at it and tried adding a ground wire to see if any change. nada. all new fuses, a new solenoid, new electric starter, no spark. what else could this mean? any input would be greatly appreciated.
So start button and reverse not working. I jumped the solenoid, it started the snowmobile. So if my solenoid is no good it won't allow my RER to work as well as start button?
I took apart the start button control and all looks good in there. However the start button/RER go to a micro switch. Do you know if they go bad? Or am i having to chase wires. 2012 600 etec
@Bobby Rebussini hi there I'm having the same issue, only starts when I bypass the solenoid with a screwdriver. I bought a new solenoid and still doesn't start. I have power coming from the plug that goes into the solenoid. My button works though because it goes into reverse no problem. What did you do at the end when you took the fuse out? Did you just replace it and that was it? Could it be a I got a defective solenoid? Odds are slim but that's all I can think of Thanks
@@bobbyrebussini1466 I don't know for sure, my friend had a test light and the plug that goes into the solenoid has power. So it should according to that I'd think. I'm no mechanic just trying to rule out something simple before removed everything and chasing wires
@@bobbyrebussini1466 when I use my start button it's dead, no clicking or anything. Battery is strong. I just meant the button functions because I use it for Reverse no issues.
Similar problem with my 2012 TNT 600 Etec, but it’s the 30A that keeps blowing. Seems to be related to the combination of accessories that I’m using. Hand grips heat ok, but with hand, thumb, and shield all on, fuse will blow. Seems like a 12v short somewhere...any ideas?
All at once or can you isolate it? Assuming you can’t isolate it I would imagine stator related. If you’re not putting out enough power the current draw increases which will blow the fuse
@@gregroylang1570 no problem let me know I’m curious. Ohm out both heated grips and thumb warmer swperately to see if they are low. Also swap the heated shield plug
Bobby, this information is probably relevant: due to a rollover, I had new handlebar added this summer, which mean that the grips and switches were redone...likely that is where my problem is.
I’m having the exact same issue I took the 5ap fuse out but still nothing what does this mean? and when I take a screwdriver and put it on the two screws on the relay if fires right up
@@bobbyrebussini1466 I replaced the fuse and did the screwdriver thing in the screwdriver thing started it though sorry not very good at explaining it😂
Damn need help my skidoo tundra 600 efi key start switch/reverse doesn’t work it was only start when I jump start the solenoid and all the fuses/solenoid are good I tryed changing the key switch off a 550 tundra still didn’t wanna start im not sure what’s wrong wit it started happening last week it’s close to 3K kms
I found the problem on my 2021 tundra 600 EFI its the ECM thats not working a few of my buddys have the same problem and their buddys damn these new tundra 600 efis they should be recalled lol jk guess ill just have to buy 2 ecms every yr thats if they make them i think they do ? I added a pull start but no reverse working not until i get a brand spankin new Brain the ECM lol
Bro mine gets stuck in reverse. It goes right into reverse but then I have to shut the sled down to get it in forward. It shuts down but comes back on in reverse. I’m lost
Any idea for an 05 GSX 600 SDI not going into reverse? Estart works fine. Run fines. Hit the rer button and the engine dies. Estart continues to work fine. Just seems to be a reverse problem
Why would you buy an electric start? Just one more thing to go wrong especially since they appear to have added compression bypass to make them super easy to start. My 82 year old twig thin father starts his own sled with a pull cord.
Great tech tips buddy you know your way around a sled. It’s all really good stuff Thanks Buddy. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks man i appreciate it
my 2012 skidoo 600 tec sounded like that, changed ecm, tps, gas sensor, still sounded bad like urs then i plugged off the rave valve sensor and it started very well, then changed rave valve sensor/clip thing and now it runs and goes like a dream :)
so vaccum leak? makes sense!
Thank you for saving me hours of work
Glad to hear it!
Once again, amazing content. Thank you!
thanks so much!!
very well done .....thank u👍
Thanks for this video. Appreciate you taking the time to make these vids. I dont have a tester (can you link that one you have?) but hope you can help with my issue. '15 800r etec is new to me and has been starting fine. It's been below zero fahrenheit the last couple days and this issue just started in that time so wondering if its related to temps. Anyway the screwdriver trick (thanks for that) started the sled. Whats interesting is that if I run it, then turn it off to do a gas fill up or something it will start after. However if I let it sit for more time (30 mins or moreish) it wont start and I'll have to jump it again. It sits on a trickle charger most of the time so battery is full. Any thoughts? I swapped both fuses too and issue persists.
Cool. Good to know before I have issues.
That was awesome and understandable and actually u were 100% rt on my sled to ty
Glad to hear it!
I have a 2015 grand touring 900 ace le I got to switch it to reverse and get 3 beeps and says rev fail. Think it’s a relay issue ?
Thanks! Helped me trouble shoot my 16 xm.
Glad I can help!!
Because it's a Skidoo.
True lol
Same problem on my 2012 800 looks like the same sled. Thought is was the relay so I replaced it and still nothing at the start button. Fires up when I cross it so I will follow your steps and we will see. Thanks for the tips!!
No problem dude if it’s soemthing different lmk
HELP! I'm new to sledding and bought a used Ski Doo 2008 MXZ X 800r. Having issues with hand grip warmers....at idle, I turn the switch on and the grips heat up right away (shows on the display) then shuts off approx 15-30 seconds but still showing ON on the display. Took it out Friday and ran it up and down the trail at high RMP with same result. If I flip the switch off then back on, it does the same thing. Also, the thumb warmer does the same thing. Thanks!
Great video. Thank you!
Very helpful video, I don’t have switch power but everything else’s test out. I jumped my fuses but still had and issue. Any ideas on what else it could be?
you have switched power where?
Hey Bobby, and ohters
I have a 2012 GSX SE 1200 with the same exact symptoms.
It has been to the dealer 2X where they changed out the battery and then the battery ground wires do to corrosion
IF I do the solenoid screwdriver post connections, It will try to fire but fuel pump etc is not operational by doing this so it will not start but turns over.
I have swapped the 2 relays with known working ones (identical sled) as well as start button fuse and main fuse with same result.
***The only way I have had any success in getting it to run is tipping on its side and letting it fall, or picking it up from rear bumper and dropping it a few times.***
Once started, it will run as normal (even go into reverse) until you shut it down again.
Looking to see what your thoughts are.
My next task I think is to look at the wiring at the starter motor itself (Thinking something is loose where it starts if you beat it up)
Thoughts??
Thanks for your time. And keep up the great videos
bump please.
how (what type of wire) and where would i ground my solenoid? When you say at the end of your video you jumped the fuse what did you do. I can't see in the video what you had done.
Thanks
I just stuck a wire across the 2 pins. Any wire from ground to ground
12 GSX are the handle bar control switches a common failure? I m having the same issue ,start is intermittent ,reverse works fine.
They can! Once water gets in there and feeezes it’s all over. Sounds like a starter issue. Try hitting the starter when it’s not turning or jump the starter manually
Thank you , I’m currently on the road , I will give you a more detailed repsonce shortly. I se BRP has a new part number for the control . If I’ll you in as to what I found in my diagnosis in the future Email.For now Thank you for your prompt reply
@@TA-bw3pp no worries. Feel free to email me if you want me to walk you through it bobby@coastalmarineengineering.com
man I wish it were this easy on this 2013 rev xu 600. I did the screw driver trick on the solenoid but no spark, used the handle bar start button but there's a super weak connectivity and barely spits out the starter. a few other wrench savy guys had looked at it and tried adding a ground wire to see if any change. nada. all new fuses, a new solenoid, new electric starter, no spark. what else could this mean? any input would be greatly appreciated.
Hmm have you tried directly jumping the starter?
what do you recommend looking at after finding there's no power on pin #3 on the harness side?
Pretty sure that comes from the pcm
So start button and reverse not working. I jumped the solenoid, it started the snowmobile. So if my solenoid is no good it won't allow my RER to work as well as start button?
Sounds more like the button/ connector. Bet you the solenoid is not getting triggered.
I took apart the start button control and all looks good in there. However the start button/RER go to a micro switch. Do you know if they go bad? Or am i having to chase wires. 2012 600 etec
@Bobby Rebussini hi there I'm having the same issue, only starts when I bypass the solenoid with a screwdriver. I bought a new solenoid and still doesn't start. I have power coming from the plug that goes into the solenoid. My button works though because it goes into reverse no problem. What did you do at the end when you took the fuse out? Did you just replace it and that was it?
Could it be a I got a defective solenoid? Odds are slim but that's all I can think of
Thanks
So the solenoid is getting triggered?
@@bobbyrebussini1466 I don't know for sure, my friend had a test light and the plug that goes into the solenoid has power. So it should according to that I'd think. I'm no mechanic just trying to rule out something simple before removed everything and chasing wires
@@jeremipolsky5775 add a ground wire to the solenoid and see if it helps
@@bobbyrebussini1466 when I use my start button it's dead, no clicking or anything. Battery is strong. I just meant the button functions because I use it for Reverse no issues.
@@bobbyrebussini1466 what exactly do you mean. What would I be doing.
Thanks for these replies really appreciate it
my 2003 skidoo bomadier 600 mxz 007 wont start with the electric start and pull start is broke and dosnt start when i jump the solenoid
Battery? Starter/loose connections
@@bobbyrebussini1466 battery seems to be good i think the connections are good thinking it is magnetic key
Do you know where is the fuse box in this skidoo? can't find mine on my mxx 2010 etec 600 adrenaline
There really isn’t one! Just 2 fuses by the battery
Similar problem with my 2012 TNT 600 Etec, but it’s the 30A that keeps blowing. Seems to be related to the combination of accessories that I’m using. Hand grips heat ok, but with hand, thumb, and shield all on, fuse will blow. Seems like a 12v short somewhere...any ideas?
All at once or can you isolate it? Assuming you can’t isolate it I would imagine stator related. If you’re not putting out enough power the current draw increases which will blow the fuse
I’ll have a pocket of 30a relays this weekend, and then will try to isolate. Thanks for the prompt reply.
@@gregroylang1570 no problem let me know I’m curious. Ohm out both heated grips and thumb warmer swperately to see if they are low. Also swap the heated shield plug
Bobby, this information is probably relevant: due to a rollover, I had new handlebar added this summer, which mean that the grips and switches were redone...likely that is where my problem is.
@@gregroylang1570 ah. Always go to the scene of the crime..
My wires r so tight u can tell someone had fix this before
I’m having the exact same issue I took the 5ap fuse out but still nothing what does this mean? and when I take a screwdriver and put it on the two screws on the relay if fires right up
did you jump the fuse? are you getting power to your solenoid?
@@bobbyrebussini1466 I replaced the fuse and did the screwdriver thing in the screwdriver thing started it though sorry not very good at explaining it😂
@@connerwiltshire7528 gotcha. So test voltage at the solenoid when the switch is pressed
@@bobbyrebussini1466 alright I’ll let you know what happens.
@@bobbyrebussini1466 the weird part is the bottom still puts it in reverse
Damn need help my skidoo tundra 600 efi key start switch/reverse doesn’t work it was only start when I jump start the solenoid and all the fuses/solenoid are good I tryed changing the key switch off a 550 tundra still didn’t wanna start im not sure what’s wrong wit it started happening last week it’s close to 3K kms
fuses, relays, wiring, pcm, in that order
Probably it’s the ECM I started jump starting the main relay nothing only starts bypassing the solenoid lol
@@sinclairnorth5870 switches are different heat to year so keep that in mind
I found the problem on my 2021 tundra 600 EFI its the ECM thats not working a few of my buddys have the same problem and their buddys damn these new tundra 600 efis they should be recalled lol jk guess ill just have to buy 2 ecms every yr thats if they make them i think they do ? I added a pull start but no reverse working not until i get a brand spankin new Brain the ECM lol
@@sinclairnorth5870 Jesus that sucks. Brand new 600 efi? Is skidoo standing by the warrantee
Bro mine gets stuck in reverse. It goes right into reverse but then I have to shut the sled down to get it in forward. It shuts down but comes back on in reverse. I’m lost
Yikes. Consistiently? Like will never stall into fwd?
After some quick research I would check belt deflection and then compression in that order.
how many times are you gonna fondle the wires
as many times as id like
Any idea for an 05 GSX 600 SDI not going into reverse? Estart works fine. Run fines. Hit the rer button and the engine dies. Estart continues to work fine. Just seems to be a reverse problem
Idle speed carb adjustment then check compression.
See that's my problem not the fuse it's the wires go to the sel
2015 MXZ pull start with reverse. Reverse not working
A million reasons why. Is it a carb model,
@@bobbyrebussini1466 yes mxz 600 sport
@@tuckernadler4893 carbs clean? Idle speed correct?
@@bobbyrebussini1466 yes, was working earlier in the season
@@tuckernadler4893 test battery then check compression. Also just bc it was working earlier doesn’t mean your carb is still clean.
My etec has a issues similar to this every 10 to 15 times it doesn't work then i hit the control and it works any idea whats wrong
hit the control?
@@bobbyrebussini1466 yes the controls then it works
@@brandondoucet9236 its probably the button then. can you test the button and play with it/ jiggle wires until it acts up?
@@bobbyrebussini1466 alright ill try that thank you so much
@@brandondoucet9236 no problem let me know what oyu find
Very helpful but I would just use the recoil
I'm assuming that if I have no continuity from my switch that means my switch is fucked 🤔
Pretty much
Why would you buy an electric start? Just one more thing to go wrong especially since they appear to have added compression bypass to make them super easy to start. My 82 year old twig thin father starts his own sled with a pull cord.
If you know what it means why the hell do you say "what does that mean"
its rhetorical. you'd know what that is if you passed the 4th grade...
Lol😂😂😂
Do you know what your even doing ?
Wtf I don’t even know you
@@bobbyrebussini1466 don’t be a dick now stick with your low views bud