Spock & Uhura Use Music Theory || Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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  • čas přidán 26. 05. 2022
  • Taken from Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, Season 1, Episode 2 "Children of the Comet"
    An awesome Musical Moment where Mr. Spock and Lt. Nyota Uhura use their Federation music theory class knowledge to crack an alien code.
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Komentáře • 16

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks Před rokem +12

    Uhura is known for having a talent in singing and music. They didn't portray a scene of Zoe Saldana singing as Uhura.

  • @beyourself2444
    @beyourself2444 Před rokem +3

    I love this ST, best one since TOS

  • @MONSTERDR451
    @MONSTERDR451 Před 2 měsíci

    path of totality

  • @zeromt3577
    @zeromt3577 Před rokem +4

    This scene gets so many things right... Uhura's haunting singing, the gorgeous background responding, Spock (who we know can rock a lyre) keying into the theory, and even La'an being the believably-clueless security chief. Still, with ALL of that going for it, the script drops the ball on the one yard line. The math here (and the scene is all about math) is wrong.
    While it's true that any frequency x2 is raised a perfect octave (12 semitones up), the script goes off the rails after that.
    Let's fix it! We're good up to 42 seconds into this clip, it's just the next 14 seconds that we MUST rewrite:
    UHURA: That's the "2" in our code...
    SPOCK (looking over her shoulder): Yes, and if we only multiply by three halves, we get the perfect fifth interval-
    UHURA: Which gives us our "3!" Now, let's find the four and five...
    SPOCK (after a half-second introspection): A factor of five fourths would be-
    UHURA: the Major third interval! Which makes this term.. a Major chord! And the others... all fit diatonically! Which means now we just have to solve a base-7 encoding.
    LA'AN: Why would an alien species write music the way we do?
    [At this point we could return to the script as-is at the 55 s point. The scene is still limping, but at least the math is better (a fifth is SMALLER than an octave, so, needs a multiplier that is smaller than two (3/2 not "triple"), a Major third is even smaller (5/4 not "five times") ). But since we're fixing stuff anyway, how about we remove Spock's useless, revisionist Vulcansplaining from the end of the clip and, instead, let Spock and Uhura say something actually scientifically meaningful:]
    SPOCK: These ratios are intrinsic to every acoustic instrument. A string shortened to two-thirds its length increases its frequency by three-halves, and so on, reciprocally. The simpler the ratio of the frequencies heard, the easier they fit together, constructing music instead of dissonance.
    UHURA (distracted by her tablet): ...aaand then any species with ears will clearly hear those intervals as the opposite of noise... pleasant... (smirks, no longer distracted) and meaningful! (grinning confidently, as she completes her work on the tablet).
    Yes, speaking those lines would take a (very) few seconds more to the length of what is presented here, but in a scene all about math, the math could then actually be correct (or, at least, less incorrect)! The writers and editors shouldn't just let the script throw all the numbers out with the bathwater when, with just a few changes, it could legitimately showcase the coolness of harmonics (music theory) and even the reciprocal nature of wavelength to frequency (physics).
    Good info here (esp. the column called "5-limit tuning (pitch ratio)" ):
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(music)#Size_of_intervals_used_in_different_tuning_systems

    • @neildasilva8050
      @neildasilva8050 Před 4 měsíci

      "triple" the frequency is still a fifth, just an octave higher. To bring it down an octave you divide by 2. Five times the frequency is still a third its just 2 octaves higher. Thats why you divide by four. The math wasnt that far off at all just the terminology.

  • @CharliHarvey
    @CharliHarvey Před rokem +2

    little bit silly bc like different cultures do music theory different ways, hell the SAME places do it different ways in different time periods so an alien species would most likely write music entirely differently.

  • @be6386
    @be6386 Před 8 měsíci

    Who here seen the musical episode of Star Trek strange new world

  • @stub2022
    @stub2022 Před rokem +3

    The writing is absolutely atrocious. "Omg! I'm a linguist and they're actually expecting to do my job!" Every scene is full of nauseating explorations of everyone's feelings.

    • @Ronariverah
      @Ronariverah Před rokem +13

      oh no feelings are gross. if only the were all robots

    • @RAdaltonracer
      @RAdaltonracer Před rokem +9

      Remember she was a linguist by talent, not by assignment. She was on cadet rotation on the Enterprise, so hadn’t yet figured out her calling just yet. The fact that they had her, and could use her advanced lingual skills, which could definitely include music theory by the way, was a happy coincidence.

    • @galwitprifor001
      @galwitprifor001 Před rokem +2

      She's a cadet - still training, and this is her first away mission on Enterprise.

    • @pocketheart1450
      @pocketheart1450 Před rokem +4

      Wow, did your daddy hit you every time you showed a feeling or something?

    • @captainbroady
      @captainbroady Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@pocketheart1450 the dude probably didn't even watch TOS before haha