Lesson don t pissed people off sam got it easy when spock had his emotions suppressed forva long time now they are unleashed well u got a very ragefull spock
Seeing spock be so happy to indulge in high amounts of emotion, to then go too far with gluttony, lust/happiness, anger to an unhealthy point is really sad.
Don't forget that Spock's human emotions and behaviour are unrestrained by the Vulcan side of him, the mental discipline it takes to control both sides must be near impossible for him.
Honestly, this reminds me of teenagers when they go off to college. (Or perhaps myself. Ha.) Exaggerated here to be sure. Though the entire mythology of Vulcans, even going back to TOS, is that their emotions have always been more intense than humans, but that they learned to suppress them. So it makes sense he'd go through all of this (but thankfully it's mostly played for laughs here and not tragically).
Some faiths or creeds have tried to deny the true wonder of bacon........but they all know it (plus light, pillowy omlettes and a drizzle of maple syrup) is the meaning of existence.
Well he's always been a neat freak, he's just more emotional about it as a human, but the bit about bacon is embarrassing because Vulcans are taught to avoid eating meat if unnecessary.
Despite his cowboy image, James was a pretty squared away guy both personally and professionally. He had good table manners in order to host official dinners as captain and his room was always clean when they showed it on TOS. Though god help anybody that dared use a tricorder or black light in there.
When he's laughing and grasping Una and she's kind of laughing but also a little uncomfortable too and La'an smiling broadly but you can see she's eyeing him up wondering if she'll have to put him in an arm bar or something😆
I forget where I read it but back in the TOS days Spock admitted that Vulcans do have emotions but they are so strong that they have to suppress them or go mad.
it has been explored a few times in different shows, but Vulcans have very strong emotions, stronger than humans, (a bit like elves/eldar in warhammer if you're familiar with them) but that also made the incredibly violent, to the point where they almost went extinct because they fought each other iirc. So they eventually decided to suppress their emotions and embrace logic to save their species. But Vulcans also have a much higher mental discipline (probably something that inherently comes with being telepathic) than humans. Without that discipline he can't control his human emotions, so even though they are not as strong as Vulcan emotions, this is the first time he experiences the full brunt of all emotions and not just the rare flare of one. La'an also explains in the episode that mentally, Spock is basically going through puberty, when all the human emotions are heightened as well.
@@Olochgu I mean we've seen quite a few "illnesses" that are basically associated with Vulcans losing the ability to suppress their emotions. The pon farr is the most depicted one on screen - they get super horny and can be pretty aggressive. Pa'nar syndrome (what T'Pol got) also affected vulcans neurologically. Sarek had Bendii Syndrome in TNG, making him lose the ability to control his emotions. Then there was that thing that Tuvok had at the end of Voyager. Don't know it's name. But it's the one that caused him to end up to live in a care centre in the future, having lost his mind. Forgot which series it was, but I remember a Vulcan talking about how violent Vulcans were in the past before they learned to control their emotions, more so than humans ever had been. And that learning to control their emotions (and be logically emotionless) caused them to 'develop' past their aggressive, primitive, era.
@@StromjirIt was probably the TOS episode All Our Yesterdays. .McCoy and Spock get lost in a planet's ice age. Spock starts to mentally regress to how the Vulcan species was at the time. He eats flesh and falls in love with the woman who rescues them from the cold, someone who was exiled there from her time in the future. Kirk gets lost in a separate later period of the planet. He gets mistaken for a witch. They have to make it back to the time portal control room in the planet's future and escape before the sun goes boom. I think that's how it goes. 😄
I wonder what Leonard Nimoy would think of this. Maybe they could've done an episode where we see both halves of Spock share the screen. That would've been interesting to explore in the original series.
Yes, but he's fully human now. It was the chance of a life time. Eating bacon was a necessity. I bet he ate a big T-bone too. Porterhouse. Rare, as it should be.
Haha sorry lol... I was using OBS to screen-record it and meant to stop it right before that scene entirely, but wasn't fast enough on the button. I don't have video editing software, I mostly threw this up for the express purpose of texting it to a buddy because I been trying to rope him into watching this series 🤣😂
Everyone talks about how Spock eating bacon goes against his vegetarian diet, but I don't think I've seen anyone point out that Vulcans also don't eat food with their hands, so Spock is going against two Vulcan traditions by grabbing bacon by the handful.
@@nivekian Its a valid comparison. That being said it has less to do with Quinto and more to do with JJ Abrams approach to the character. Nimoys Spock spent a lot of TOS chewing the scenery with the rest of the crew. Those characters really benefited from the movies. Hell the Scotty and Spock we saw in TNG are probably the best interpretation of the characters.
Y'know... As long as Paramount is spitting out these alternate Trek timelines... Why not have a timeline where Spock was raised on Earth. As a half Vulcan human boy. (Maybe Sarik dies when Spock is baby and Amanda takes him home to Earth)... That might be interesting. Or even just a SNW episode with this scenario) Btw... To me .. They're all Star Trek. I just see it as a "Trek Multiverse"... Since every film and series deviates from previous works.
This isn't alternate, it's a prequel, meaning that now canonically the Nimoy Spock was briefly turned into a full human while serving under Captain Pike.
@@Mr-RinnYeah, there's been some weird gatekeeping attempts by (some) trek fans about this show and "Well, obviously, it's not the _real_ Trek-verse" etc
@@Tao_Tology then the gatekeepers aren't worth listening to. enjoy what you enjoy. you don't have to justify it or force others to view it a certain way. world's too shitty to add more toxicity to it
Ahem! This is the prime timeline. Literally EVERYTHING in Star Teek, except for the mirror universe and the Kelvin verse, is the prime timeline. I am getting so sick of these stupid, patethic statements from posers pretending to be fans of Star Trek!
I believe they're vegetarians that never touch food with their hands while their females have a heightened sense of smell... according to the Enterprise pilot. 😅
I think they take something that suppresses their sense of smell in order to muffle the stink that humans give off if they're serving aboard a ship with them lol.
ok he's missing his Vulcan DNA and there is "nothing technically wrong with him"? I can't even begin to understand this episode. it's just so goofy and off the mark. WOW. Clearly his behaviour demonstrated that there was something seriously wrong with him.
I mean functionally Spock can still walk, talk, perform independent functions, and he doesn't possess some kind of disease that's going to kill everyone aboard the ship. From a medical standpoint there's nothing really wrong except for the DNA change
I seriously question anyone and everyone that finds this amusing. Seriously, watch Wrath of Kaan and then this and tell me how this version is still Spock. Alternate timelines or not this is literally a completely different character given the name Spock so you like him less and favour the new characters, nothing more. If you want humour fine, spock had humour in the originals mostly with his interactions with Bones, the writers were smart enough to find humour without resorting to him literally eating bacon, and the over the top laughing at a joke is something we find in teen dramas about the nerd trying to fit in, and im sorry Spock wouldnt care about fitting in so he would never resort to this.
what are you talking about, this isn't supposed to be TOS Spock, this is Spock after a ~space anomaly~ turns him into a full-human with zero experience with human emotions, he's not SUPPOSED to be acting like Spock, that's the whole point. It's like watching a clip of McCoy after he drugs himself in City at the Edge of Forever and going "this isn't how McCoy would act!!"
@@Brian-rt5bb Spock came back from the dead with next to no memory in The Voyage Home and he still behaved more like Spock than this guy has in 2 seasons.
Great episode - this show continues to impress. even their woke inserts aren't too over the top - the vulcan father got close to being ridiculous, but not quite.
I cant belived. SNW is a big joke from beginning to the end. I'm sorry but THIS is and will be never Star Trek. I mis the old days, back in the past with all the others. To created and filming that show was a mistake. No passion, no sense nothing. How that could be happening?
TOS is packed with fun and goofiness. I'm super stoked this series doesn't take itself as seriously as the other current lot. I like the others as well, but this one is my flagship. You say it's not Trek, but to me, it is everything Trek is meant to be.
Honey, stop hitting your keyboard with your tiny, tantrumming fists. The show is made by the company that hold the rights to the franchise. It's canon.
2:34 "Don't test me, KIRK! I will BREAK YOU!!!!" 🤣
McCoy in a few years: “I can’t believe I’m agreeing with the Vulcan. But sometimes I feel that way towards Jim’s antics.”
@@benwasserman8223 it's his brother Sam
MCcoy: I Know.
I now see why McCoy hasn’t been introduced yet.
If he ever does I hope he writes his will….
I'm pretty sure that's what Spock said the first time he lost a game of chess to James.
Honestly tho spock losing it on sam kirk is so relatable for me
same here i hate messy ppl.
Oh god yes.
@@mk17173nSameeee 😂 I’m quite a perfectionist 😅
@@mk17173n It's even worse when inside their 🚘
Lesson don t pissed people off sam got it easy when spock had his emotions suppressed forva long time now they are unleashed well u got a very ragefull spock
Seeing spock be so happy to indulge in high amounts of emotion, to then go too far with gluttony, lust/happiness, anger to an unhealthy point is really sad.
Don't forget that Spock's human emotions and behaviour are unrestrained by the Vulcan side of him, the mental discipline it takes to control both sides must be near impossible for him.
Honestly, this reminds me of teenagers when they go off to college. (Or perhaps myself. Ha.) Exaggerated here to be sure. Though the entire mythology of Vulcans, even going back to TOS, is that their emotions have always been more intense than humans, but that they learned to suppress them. So it makes sense he'd go through all of this (but thankfully it's mostly played for laughs here and not tragically).
Spock’s reaction to bacon is unkosher, but VERY logical.
Spock in the original series was a total non-meatatarian.
Some faiths or creeds have tried to deny the true wonder of bacon........but they all know it (plus light, pillowy omlettes and a drizzle of maple syrup) is the meaning of existence.
I wonder if the bacon that Spock smells is the real deal or plant-based?
If it's the real deal, then when he changed back, what would happen to his stomach?
@@coinsilver3 I couldn't say. McCoy knew more about Vulcans' physically than I do.
Human Spock was only in a dream sequence he can't hurt you
2:36 Human Spock...
"I hope this isnt a mistake." Followed by a montage showing that it was indeed a mistake. Not a new joke by any means but a reliable one.
You're calmly washing dishes & nothings gone wrong: 0:48
When someone puts an extra plate in the sink: 2:38
Spock loves beacon and is a bit of a neat freak.
Well he's always been a neat freak, he's just more emotional about it as a human, but the bit about bacon is embarrassing because Vulcans are taught to avoid eating meat if unnecessary.
I can personally - and happily - confirm that bacon is wonderful.
Makes me wish that both Jim Kirk and Bones were in this episode.
God, if Spock was like this around Sam, I'd hate to see what he would do around James!
James would have to fight harder than he fought against Khan just to keep the smile off his face.
Forget James Kirk. Imagine Spock losing it on McCoy in the future XD
Despite his cowboy image, James was a pretty squared away guy both personally and professionally. He had good table manners in order to host official dinners as captain and his room was always clean when they showed it on TOS. Though god help anybody that dared use a tricorder or black light in there.
@@benwasserman8223 alternate timeline McCoy or the real McCoy ?
@@HepCatJack I'd say they're equally annoyed by Spock, so it doesn't really matter.
When he's laughing and grasping Una and she's kind of laughing but also a little uncomfortable too and La'an smiling broadly but you can see she's eyeing him up wondering if she'll have to put him in an arm bar or something😆
I know this is already going to be my favorite episode of the season. One of the best of the series so far.
Spock: I am going to get such a good grade in being human. Which is both a normal thing to want and possible to acchieve.
His reaction to humour is like - Ooooh! Now I understand! I never got it before and now I get it!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ok now I’m going to enjoy this! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Strange new worlds keeps getting better and better
Star trek will never die!!
Maybe when McCoy is finally introduced, they will have a Hatsfield character that doesn't get along with him.
BANGS ARE A VULCAN GENETIC FEATURE LIKE THE EARS. They flattened back out when he became Vulcan again.😂😂😂🎉
I forget where I read it but back in the TOS days Spock admitted that Vulcans do have emotions but they are so strong that they have to suppress them or go mad.
There were a few episodes of Enterprise about it, even with Vulcans who lived as hermits on a ship without their society’s regulations.
it has been explored a few times in different shows, but Vulcans have very strong emotions, stronger than humans, (a bit like elves/eldar in warhammer if you're familiar with them) but that also made the incredibly violent, to the point where they almost went extinct because they fought each other iirc. So they eventually decided to suppress their emotions and embrace logic to save their species. But Vulcans also have a much higher mental discipline (probably something that inherently comes with being telepathic) than humans.
Without that discipline he can't control his human emotions, so even though they are not as strong as Vulcan emotions, this is the first time he experiences the full brunt of all emotions and not just the rare flare of one. La'an also explains in the episode that mentally, Spock is basically going through puberty, when all the human emotions are heightened as well.
@@Olochgu I mean we've seen quite a few "illnesses" that are basically associated with Vulcans losing the ability to suppress their emotions. The pon farr is the most depicted one on screen - they get super horny and can be pretty aggressive. Pa'nar syndrome (what T'Pol got) also affected vulcans neurologically. Sarek had Bendii Syndrome in TNG, making him lose the ability to control his emotions. Then there was that thing that Tuvok had at the end of Voyager. Don't know it's name. But it's the one that caused him to end up to live in a care centre in the future, having lost his mind.
Forgot which series it was, but I remember a Vulcan talking about how violent Vulcans were in the past before they learned to control their emotions, more so than humans ever had been. And that learning to control their emotions (and be logically emotionless) caused them to 'develop' past their aggressive, primitive, era.
@@StromjirIt was probably the TOS episode All Our Yesterdays. .McCoy and Spock get lost in a planet's ice age. Spock starts to mentally regress to how the Vulcan species was at the time. He eats flesh and falls in love with the woman who rescues them from the cold, someone who was exiled there from her time in the future. Kirk gets lost in a separate later period of the planet. He gets mistaken for a witch. They have to make it back to the time portal control room in the planet's future and escape before the sun goes boom. I think that's how it goes. 😄
@@LoriCiani It's true. All of it.
I wonder what Leonard Nimoy would think of this. Maybe they could've done an episode where we see both halves of Spock share the screen. That would've been interesting to explore in the original series.
Great episode, the writing on this show is superb
I would’ve loved to see Amanda’s reaction
And to think Vulcans are taught to avoid eating meat if unnecessary....
Yes, but he's fully human now. It was the chance of a life time. Eating bacon was a necessity. I bet he ate a big T-bone too. Porterhouse. Rare, as it should be.
Spock reminds me of a teenager here lol
Bacon do dat to everybody, even Vulcans! 😂
Spock crosses his arms singing i'm the ex the same way as when he talks to la'an.
I wish their talk at the end wasn't cut off.
Haha sorry lol... I was using OBS to screen-record it and meant to stop it right before that scene entirely, but wasn't fast enough on the button. I don't have video editing software, I mostly threw this up for the express purpose of texting it to a buddy because I been trying to rope him into watching this series 🤣😂
Lol. I get that.
I appreciate having this chance to watch the highlights. ❤
Spock totally wasn't awkwardly flirting with La'an lol
Everyone talks about how Spock eating bacon goes against his vegetarian diet, but I don't think I've seen anyone point out that Vulcans also don't eat food with their hands, so Spock is going against two Vulcan traditions by grabbing bacon by the handful.
Uhura's fearful flinch reaction to spock slamming his hand on the table at 1:58 is fuckin gold lmaooo
Kind of remind me of the voyager episode when belena got split into her human and Klingon self
Or the Voyager episode where Tuvok and Neelix are merged.
@@Tao_Tology Why would you bring that up? like ever?
@@Olochgu Ermagarrdd, like I don't care if you understand.
👍🏻
@@Tao_Tology Great I was trying to supress that memory
@@Olochguand janeway killed him 😅
Loved this episode, but I was surprised Pelia wasn't in it considering the tone and connection to Amanda.
Agreed, but at least they didn't completely forget the connection by giving her a shout out.
I feel like either 1) Carol Kane wasn't available on the filming days or 2) it would have distracted from the plot/timing too much
why does he smile like a cross between Jack Nicholson's Joker and Bill Skarsgard's Pennywise tho? lol
This guy is so much better than Zachary Quinto.
Yeah...ZQ was medicore at best.
Unnecessary comparison.
@@nivekian Its a valid comparison. That being said it has less to do with Quinto and more to do with JJ Abrams approach to the character.
Nimoys Spock spent a lot of TOS chewing the scenery with the rest of the crew. Those characters really benefited from the movies. Hell the Scotty and Spock we saw in TNG are probably the best interpretation of the characters.
Quinto was amazing. Especially at that whole "having emotions without having emotions" thing. Also, Nimoy approved of Quinto.
People put stuff in competition with each other way too much. It’s like we’re not allowed to enjoy both portrayals.
Bruh this reminds me of Helluva boss s2 e5 where moxxie suffers from 2nd hand embarrasment 💀
I mostly respect his reaction to Kirk. "I WILL BREAK YOU!"
Tonight's show watching.🤗 Maybe a few more episodes afterwards
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Y'know... As long as Paramount is spitting out these alternate Trek timelines...
Why not have a timeline where Spock was raised on Earth. As a half Vulcan human boy. (Maybe Sarik dies when Spock is baby and Amanda takes him home to Earth)... That might be interesting. Or even just a SNW episode with this scenario)
Btw... To me .. They're all Star Trek. I just see it as a "Trek Multiverse"... Since every film and series deviates from previous works.
This isn't alternate, it's a prequel, meaning that now canonically the Nimoy Spock was briefly turned into a full human while serving under Captain Pike.
@@Mr-RinnYeah, there's been some weird gatekeeping attempts by (some) trek fans about this show and "Well, obviously, it's not the _real_ Trek-verse" etc
@@Tao_Tology then the gatekeepers aren't worth listening to. enjoy what you enjoy. you don't have to justify it or force others to view it a certain way. world's too shitty to add more toxicity to it
@@Zreen001 "...or force others"
There it is.
Ahem! This is the prime timeline. Literally EVERYTHING in Star Teek, except for the mirror universe and the Kelvin verse, is the prime timeline.
I am getting so sick of these stupid, patethic statements from posers pretending to be fans of Star Trek!
Maybe the idea of suppressing emotions causes more harm than good to Vulcans.
Spock is so gd fine! 😍😍😍😍😍
Uh Spock you are a vegetarian, this will not end well.
The power of bacon
I only recently got diagnosed with autism in my 30s and my wife tells me this is basically me when I struggle to regulate.
I don't care what hardcore star trek fans say, I love this show xD
Yeah... hilarious... wow.
Vile.
pike is not wrong about whisking .
MMmmmmmmmm..........................Bacon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from being only half human to fully human yikes
😥😥
Do vulcans have limited sense of smell and taste
I believe they're vegetarians that never touch food with their hands while their females have a heightened sense of smell... according to the Enterprise pilot. 😅
I think they take something that suppresses their sense of smell in order to muffle the stink that humans give off if they're serving aboard a ship with them lol.
🥓😯🤩
This is spock?
He’s rapidly becoming my favorite Spock.
After an accident that left him full human instead of half human/vuclan.
ok he's missing his Vulcan DNA and there is "nothing technically wrong with him"? I can't even begin to understand this episode. it's just so goofy and off the mark. WOW. Clearly his behaviour demonstrated that there was something seriously wrong with him.
I mean functionally Spock can still walk, talk, perform independent functions, and he doesn't possess some kind of disease that's going to kill everyone aboard the ship. From a medical standpoint there's nothing really wrong except for the DNA change
It means that he is completely healthy human.
He said TECHNICALLY. His life was in no medical related danger.
I seriously question anyone and everyone that finds this amusing. Seriously, watch Wrath of Kaan and then this and tell me how this version is still Spock. Alternate timelines or not this is literally a completely different character given the name Spock so you like him less and favour the new characters, nothing more. If you want humour fine, spock had humour in the originals mostly with his interactions with Bones, the writers were smart enough to find humour without resorting to him literally eating bacon, and the over the top laughing at a joke is something we find in teen dramas about the nerd trying to fit in, and im sorry Spock wouldnt care about fitting in so he would never resort to this.
'Gatekeeping, gatekeeping, gatekeeping.'
I like both classic Spock AND this new version, whether you are emotionally equipped to handle that fact or not is up to you.
U lame
what are you talking about, this isn't supposed to be TOS Spock, this is Spock after a ~space anomaly~ turns him into a full-human with zero experience with human emotions, he's not SUPPOSED to be acting like Spock, that's the whole point. It's like watching a clip of McCoy after he drugs himself in City at the Edge of Forever and going "this isn't how McCoy would act!!"
@@Brian-rt5bb Spock came back from the dead with next to no memory in The Voyage Home and he still behaved more like Spock than this guy has in 2 seasons.
The writers of this show know nothing about Vulcans.
Just as you know nothing about relationships?
Ah this is funny because obviously did not watch the episode
there are no Vulcans in this clip
Great episode - this show continues to impress.
even their woke inserts aren't too over the top - the vulcan father got close to being ridiculous, but not quite.
'even their woke....'
Get over yourself.
@@Tao_Tology just saying - even that stuff is well done and not terribly annoying.
@@freeman7296 "just"
Nope, you were whining.
@@Tao_Tology Don't want another great show destroyed by that nonsense...I'm actually quite happy with it - it's a great show.
@@freeman7296 "by that nonsense"
Cry more, dear.
I cant belived.
SNW is a big joke from beginning to the end. I'm sorry but THIS is and will be never Star Trek. I mis the old days, back in the past with all the others. To created and filming that show was a mistake. No passion, no sense nothing. How that could be happening?
It's Star Trek to me and my family, maybe that's enough. You don't have to like something but it's arrogant to assume other people can't enjoy it.
Agreed and except for Picard S3, it's the best we've gotten from Kurtzman since 2017 and his contract extends to 2026, at present!
it's so sad what they've done to this character in the name of I do not know what....
TOS is packed with fun and goofiness. I'm super stoked this series doesn't take itself as seriously as the other current lot. I like the others as well, but this one is my flagship. You say it's not Trek, but to me, it is everything Trek is meant to be.
Honey, stop hitting your keyboard with your tiny, tantrumming fists.
The show is made by the company that hold the rights to the franchise.
It's canon.