@@SantanKGhey1234 it’s def not 1000% more reiable. Maybe a little bit more reliable but that’s expected since the Panamera has about 5x more horsepower than a corolla
Personally, I love the PTS. It's a smooth ride, especially when im reading my financials with my airpods in. My wife's boyfriends love it too, it almost makes me forget i work a desk job.
I've driven plenty Panamera Gen 2 Models on the Autobahn (not only but like 80%) including the Turbo with 550HP and you can do 150mph with 2 fingers on the steering wheel with no issue. The whole car is stable like a maglev train, the ride quality is just something else. Whoever I see with such a car (or any other) Porsche I congratulate them and are happy for them.
@@redwhite_040 cause they are much cheaper and also more practical. A Panamera is a very long car for little luggage and 4 people. Porsche SUVs are the "can do all" if you only really need 1 car. Panamera is great to drive on highway /autobahn, but in the city not so much. Finding parking space is really an issue and the maneuverability is meh. Cayenne is 15cm shorter.
@@redwhite_040 a Cayenne or Macan are also real Porsche. In their respective class they are the sportiest/fastest and among the most luxurious cars. Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT achieved 7:38min around Nürburgring, that's exact the same time as a 2006 911 Turbo, Lexus LFA or Lamborghini Gallardo. It's also faster than a 2004 Ford GT, Shelby Mustang GT500 or an Audi R8 V10 plus. Of course that's the top of the line model and most Cayenne are probably base models but compared against other base models they are usually faster (which doesn't matter to anyone who buys the base model). Anyway, I have driven lots of Macan and Cayenne, they are freakin sport cars and real Porsche. Only a little bit higher maybe.
Nah, it will have been just coming off lease in three years. The few who actually buy them will keep them safely in their bank-vault garages and almost never drive them.
@@VaunShiz ain’t that the truth. There’s just something about that sound and feeling of an engine wanting to jump out of the car when you smash the throttle.
I’d say that it’s a competitor to a S8 and S63 AMG rather than M5 or E63 both size- and experiencewise. It’s over 5 meters long, has the even longer LWB version, has those small touches like stepless door opening. I definitely wouldn’t put it on the same notch with 5 series, E-class, A6 and their derivatives, it’s a top-notch product.
I talked to porsche about this. I understand it(panamera) was built to compete against the s class. That said i think due to its dynamics and size, specifically the normal and wagon variants its at the faster trim levels primarily shopped against the m5, rs6 and e63s.
I was thinking the same thing, however I believe you can cross shop it against both S8/S63 and M5/RS6/E63’s of the world. The Porsche Panamera is like a Universal Luxury car that competes with everything on every level performance wise.
@@jackholmes8105 come on that’s definitely not true. who is shopping a Panamera against the M5, RS6/7 or E/GT63S? the Panamera is much more expensive, even more expansive than the S-Class, 7-Series, A8, LS and Quattroporte. It’s available with a normal and long-wheelbase like the S-Class, 7-Series, A8. even as wagon cause Volkswagen always wanted to have a wagon in the upper class (Audi Avantissimo). the previous Panamera 970 even was on the same platform as the Audi A8 D3, VW Phaeton, first and second gen Bentley Continental GT, Continental Flying Spur, first gen Flying Spur! do you really think Bentley would build their cars on the same Modularer Standardantriebsbaukasten (MSB) platform as the 971 if it would compete with lesser cars like A6, 5-series, E-class and co? definitely not. and don’t say again "due to its dynamics and size", so what? It’s a Porsche, of course they are going to make the most dynamic one compared to the S-class and co, and the size isn’t so far off the normal wheelbase competitors from the upper class. the BMW 7-series also used to be a lil bit smaller and much more dynamic compared to the S-class, now they are not really different anymore because that’s what the market demands.
@@jackholmes8105 agree and disagree at the same time - I believe that there are some people that would cross-shop those, but as you said - Panamera is a no drama car, while M5 and E63s kinda give some of that drama and that’s why I think it’s closer to a S8 or AMG S-class and I think that most of the clients for Panamera are looking for this smooth, no-drama swiss-army-knife-car experience, which Panamera delivers… … or at least I did while ordering Cayenne GTS (yes, the baller variant) - I didn’t even look at X5M Comp, even though it would be way faster and cheaper both in regards to sticker price and running costs, but it just can’t match Porsche refinementwise.
It's hard to grasp it but this thing is the fastest sedan on the track at Car and Driver's Lightening Lap competition. The ride, luxury and all that performance, it's perfection and you pay dearly for it.
That’s not a scientific test. The Cadillac had inferior tires and the M5 had only one tire set. Both those cars would have posted better times in a more legitimate test run.
I dunno. Working with a network requires a lot more foreplanning and coordination -- basically, everything you see on a network or streamer was probably initially planned a year or more ago and might have been canned almost that long. If they were on a network they'd gain a lot of audience and $$ but the show couldn't have the relatively fast turnaround time that to me is one of its most appealing characteristics. So I'm not sure I'd like to see them go that way, though I definitely agree they are some of the very best at what they do and deserve even more popularity and success.
@@MLHunt I totally get that. I literally look forward to their reviews all the time. It really makes my morning go by on a high note, and I know I’m not the only one who gets excited when we get a new video. And not to mention their fine print series, mini documentaries. It’s just great automotive content like no other. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love what we get now, but honestly these guys are just that good.
You guys are perfect! Please keep up the good work. I've been watching your channel for 2 months but i can already say that you guys are my favorite car magazine cahnnel all across youtube. I was searching for a channel that gives technical information about cars not babbling and i found you. Wish you good healt and enjoying this all new video.
Agreed. Not only do you get much better rear headroom so you can scare your friends, you also get more interesting and distinctive styling. This conventional hatchback looks nice, but somewhat generically Porsche.
It’s like a Golf R x2.Not figuratively, almost literally. 2.0L I4 x2 -> 4.0 V8. 315 hp x2 -> ~630 hp (technically 620) 157 hp/liter vs 155. ~Low to mid 4 seconds -> ~mid to upper 2’s. 3,200 lbs -> ~5,000 lbs (ok x1.6) AWD 4-door hatchback-> AWD 4-door “hatchback” DSG-> PDK Only thing that’s not “double” is MSRP but I don’t think the Turbo S is wildly overpriced, just mildly for the segment... a base Turbo is plenty
Customers: people who have structured their business and personal finances around tax laws so leasing a $200k car will result in the car not only being free, but paying the owner/lessee.
@@coolsahib Just have to claim it's a necessary business expense. You need to impress clients and make it to meetings in Pittsburgh faster than you could fly. The IRS doesn't catch the frauds because they aren't given enough money to investigate them.
@@kevinponce8525 VW is already putting them on the rear axle of the ID.3 and Continental is even developing drum brakes that are as good as disk breaks😂
My first car was my 1973 VW Superbeetle which I owned for 18 years and took me through many ups and downs from high school through graduate school. Fast forward, I own a 2011 Maybach V12 6.0 liter with 620 hp/738 lbs ft of torque. Something very special about German cars, regardless of price point or generation(s).
Its funny that the more I learn about high performance super vehicles the less I can see myself wanting one. More car than I can use is right! Perhaps 10 times more than the car I can use. Tells me that design is perhaps more important to me than I thought, and that a humbler experience is closer to ideal.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ I never said “cheap used car.” A 12 year old car that’s still in the 30’s isn’t exactly cheap. Fact remains that they do look the same. You know what nobody has REALLY never said? “Wow that Porsche Panamera looks like a $200,000 car!”
I’ve got an all black 2021 Panamera Turbo S Executive Fully agree with this video! The car absolutely blows my mind! (actually, I disagree with the comment regarding not liking the brakes at low speeds….the brakes are wonderful at all speeds) I gotta go drive somewhere….
Who cares that nobody knows you're driving something so expensive as long as you enjoy the vehicle itself. My 2 favourite luxury brands are Lexus and Porsche, both have unquestionably amazing cars, and both of them are pretty stealthy about it.
I know people loved to hate the first gen Panamera but I have always wanted one. When Porsche makes a new vehicle they kill it in the what ever segment it’s in.
3 months ago I replaced my previous 2018 Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo with my new Turbo S Sport Turismo, and just completed a 600 mile ski trip yesterday. I run snow tires for winter, PS4S tires the rest of the year. As much as I loved my previous car, and as fast as it was, I can only say "Wow" about the new one. Obviously there's no Autobahn in the US and no place to truly stretch the legs of this car. But for me, it's all about passing trucks and campers on a two-lane road. Passing is almost instantaneous. It will go from 60 mph to "highly illegal" in the blink of an eye. Even with snow tires, it's a great drive on a (dry) winding mountain road. Even on snow and ice, the traction, braking and handling are as good as anything I've driven in 50 years of skiing. I simply can't imagine a better car for the purpose. I even did a lap on an autocross course a week ago, snow tires and all. I took our AX chairman for the ride, and his eyes almost popped out of his head when I did a launch control start. Nobody there could believe that such a big, heavy beast could be that fast! Yup, this one's a keeper!
@@pakigangsta5 Nowhere close to what this video implies. I'm retired, from a couple of pretty good government jobs and still working part-time. But not married, no kids, so I get to spend it on cars!
hmm yes, quite exquisite. As an intellectual and totally someone who can afford a Porsche, I’m suddenly highly intrigued by this model in particular. I can’t wait to make my decision for my upcoming 22nd birthday as a gift to myself. There truly is no better option than Porsche.
I think, maybe a 3 bedroom house is better value for the same money, and when I leave skid marks, I don't have to worry about replacing expensive tyres.
At about 10:15 he says how hard it is to go back once you have driven such a car. I totally agree, my thoughts too. I own a Cayenne Turbo (my first ever porsche) and it is one of the first things I said to myself. Even if it is an older model, I do not care, it is all I will drive (and I am sure the Turbo Panamera is equally great).
I've been really considering this being the next step up from my s5 sb looking for a 2020 by next year , I don't know about a S model here but I do worry a bit about real long term maintenance buying new the price is great at the start but then add in all the knick nacks you'd somewhat expect in a near 100k base 4 but it's a tough one to gripe for now ..
I was fortunate enough to experience one of these across Europe for a month. An amazingly capable product, everything you say is true. Back home in Oz, such a thing is utterly and shamefully wasted, but to me, still very desirable.
I have a 1997 Outback and just picked up a used 2012 base Panamera 4 (6 cylinder). Everything everyone says here is true. Knowing I can never go back, at least I have a few remaining steps up before hitting maximum Panamera :-)
after having the lucky chance of driving one (one of the very few perks of being a designated driver) this car became an aspirational car for me; not like for example a LaFerrari, any Lamborghini or even a 911 where I like the machines but I don't want to own then, I actually want one even though I don't need nor can I afford it
@Savagegeese I enjoy watching all your content. Im 26 right now and make 50k/year doing HVAC work. When im around 40 years old Id love to be able to afford some of the nicer cars you review!
Ah yes, my older girlfriend lets me drive her Panamera Turbo, she says I drive it better than her husband who she says is too conservative with his approach to lifestyle but that he needs to vet his prestigious position in society.
200k? You can barely afford a base model Panamera with zero options in my country with that low of a budget, America sure is a heaven for car enthusiasts.
We have a Panamera Sport Turismo GTS and love it! The engine is crazy, the exhaust note makes me want to hit the gas every few seconds!! Would love to get into the Turbo S next!
Loved this videos, very concise and professional, subscribed liked and all the bells and wistles. Also i had the chance to drive the panamera turbo gen 2 has well, and i agree with everything you guys said, its the most germanic sports luxury sedan off all, over engineered, the best built cabin on the market honestly, and very very capable indeed. Loved it
Porsche there is no Substitute. I went to Stuttgart US High School. And on the way to school on the bus I saw the first 959, and the shop mechanic working on a 911 by hand early in the morning. The window was open so anyone can see! Relative of the 928!
I drove one on a Porsche sponsored track day. The difference between the bloated cow of the standard Panamera and the TS, is astounding. When you mash the pedal or hit a corner in the TS, you can't help but cackle like a child.
Kind of ugly, to my eye. Impressive, yes, but it reminds me of the homely 1st gen Panamera. The Taycan seems more like a technology showcase than a cohesive car. A good EV performance car should be much more efficient than it is.
I sat in one at a Porsche showroom event in a shopping mall in Hong Kong and made vroom vroom noises, does that count as having the full experience in this car?
Porsche, the only company that can simultaneously peddle incredible BEVs while also upstaging their one party trick with ye olde dino burner. Incredible car.
This is what I need to get away from the stressful tedium of growing my shareholders' wealth. This car makes it easy, unlike my CFO, Darius, who expects me to understand what his damn numbers mean every month end. I only care to know that I'm making money and that's it. Like Porsche gets it, why can't he?
Just a side bar here but you guys need to take a look at the BMW M8 competition gran coupe a direct competitor to this Panamera but easier on the wallet and better looking
I really dont know why I chose a Corolla over this. Everyday I kick my self about it.
because its 1000% more reliable than this turd
@@SantanKGhey1234 Jealous? Porsches are reliable
If you have to ask about the prise - you cannot afford it. This is the best car if this happen to be you.
You should kick your staffers.
That's what they're there for.
@@SantanKGhey1234 it’s def not 1000% more reiable. Maybe a little bit more reliable but that’s expected since the Panamera has about 5x more horsepower than a corolla
The way that rear wing extends out of the car is just beautiful.
Agreed, an elegant and sturdy art piece
Shazam
AGREED!
For me its the only thing i dont like about this car...
@Steven Strain Like an old Lincoln sagging in the back?
Personally, I love the PTS. It's a smooth ride, especially when im reading my financials with my airpods in. My wife's boyfriends love it too, it almost makes me forget i work a desk job.
I’m afraid to ask your current mental state. Stay strong brother.
@@danielelim8276 just jokes. Thanks tho
I laughed
😂😂😂😂😂
META-Varnsen
I've driven plenty Panamera Gen 2 Models on the Autobahn (not only but like 80%) including the Turbo with 550HP and you can do 150mph with 2 fingers on the steering wheel with no issue. The whole car is stable like a maglev train, the ride quality is just something else. Whoever I see with such a car (or any other) Porsche I congratulate them and are happy for them.
But why does 70% of Porsche buyer end up with a Cayenne or Macan. So sad.
@@redwhite_040 cause they are much cheaper and also more practical. A Panamera is a very long car for little luggage and 4 people. Porsche SUVs are the "can do all" if you only really need 1 car. Panamera is great to drive on highway /autobahn, but in the city not so much. Finding parking space is really an issue and the maneuverability is meh. Cayenne is 15cm shorter.
@@computercrack A SUV is a middle of the road thing. A real Porsche is a sportscar, coupe or cabrio.
@@redwhite_040 a Cayenne or Macan are also real Porsche. In their respective class they are the sportiest/fastest and among the most luxurious cars. Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT achieved 7:38min around Nürburgring, that's exact the same time as a 2006 911 Turbo, Lexus LFA or Lamborghini Gallardo. It's also faster than a 2004 Ford GT, Shelby Mustang GT500 or an Audi R8 V10 plus. Of course that's the top of the line model and most Cayenne are probably base models but compared against other base models they are usually faster (which doesn't matter to anyone who buys the base model). Anyway, I have driven lots of Macan and Cayenne, they are freakin sport cars and real Porsche. Only a little bit higher maybe.
@@redwhite_040 The Macan and Cayenne allow the company to thrive so they can keep making sports cars. Also they are great daily drivers.
Porsche engineers are wizards. The constant battle against physics because of the 911 engine placement made them the best in the business.
So true! Just imagine what they can do with a mid engine car where the physics work with you. Hint, get a Cayman.
It's a common misconception that rear engine only has cons. It has pros too, like monster amounts of rear end grip and better stability under braking.
They’ve been inching it forward too.
this is such a legendary company all around they're just that amazing , Porsche the goats !
@@GuyGamer1 Works great on track when you trail break in and fast out
Can't wait to afford this after 3 years and 5 owners.
Just like most wives
@@aceofspades6667 The champion.
@@aceofspades6667 mah nigga
@@aceofspades6667 lol
Nah, it will have been just coming off lease in three years. The few who actually buy them will keep them safely in their bank-vault garages and almost never drive them.
It looks so much better than first generation. Great vehicle.
Looks are subjective, first year had way more road presentation
Yup. The first gen car looked like it was squatting. This is pretty, though maybe a little too blandly Porsche-esque.
I love that I can fit my body guards, rifles and several suit cases of gold bars. It's so practical. A value actually.
I believe the Taycan Turbo S has a slightly lower 0-60 time which is imperative for me to tell my friends at Cars and Coffee
Um… in the real world, who cares other than the arm chair posers at C&C
Kevin!!!
But what about the Panamera Turbo S Hybrid? It's got major bragging rights, too. The Taycan is just a little too weird.
Yea but a V8 is way better bragging rights then "my EV has big electric motor" 😂
@@VaunShiz ain’t that the truth. There’s just something about that sound and feeling of an engine wanting to jump out of the car when you smash the throttle.
I’d say that it’s a competitor to a S8 and S63 AMG rather than M5 or E63 both size- and experiencewise. It’s over 5 meters long, has the even longer LWB version, has those small touches like stepless door opening. I definitely wouldn’t put it on the same notch with 5 series, E-class, A6 and their derivatives, it’s a top-notch product.
I talked to porsche about this. I understand it(panamera) was built to compete against the s class. That said i think due to its dynamics and size, specifically the normal and wagon variants its at the faster trim levels primarily shopped against the m5, rs6 and e63s.
I was thinking the same thing, however I believe you can cross shop it against both S8/S63 and M5/RS6/E63’s of the world. The Porsche Panamera is like a Universal Luxury car that competes with everything on every level performance wise.
@@jackholmes8105 come on that’s definitely not true. who is shopping a Panamera against the M5, RS6/7 or E/GT63S? the Panamera is much more expensive, even more expansive than the S-Class, 7-Series, A8, LS and Quattroporte. It’s available with a normal and long-wheelbase like the S-Class, 7-Series, A8. even as wagon cause Volkswagen always wanted to have a wagon in the upper class (Audi Avantissimo).
the previous Panamera 970 even was on the same platform as the Audi A8 D3, VW Phaeton, first and second gen Bentley Continental GT, Continental Flying Spur, first gen Flying Spur!
do you really think Bentley would build their cars on the same Modularer Standardantriebsbaukasten (MSB) platform as the 971 if it would compete with lesser cars like A6, 5-series, E-class and co? definitely not.
and don’t say again "due to its dynamics and size", so what? It’s a Porsche, of course they are going to make the most dynamic one compared to the S-class and co, and the size isn’t so far off the normal wheelbase competitors from the upper class. the BMW 7-series also used to be a lil bit smaller and much more dynamic compared to the S-class, now they are not really different anymore because that’s what the market demands.
The S8 is a boat
@@jackholmes8105 agree and disagree at the same time - I believe that there are some people that would cross-shop those, but as you said - Panamera is a no drama car, while M5 and E63s kinda give some of that drama and that’s why I think it’s closer to a S8 or AMG S-class and I think that most of the clients for Panamera are looking for this smooth, no-drama swiss-army-knife-car experience, which Panamera delivers…
… or at least I did while ordering Cayenne GTS (yes, the baller variant) - I didn’t even look at X5M Comp, even though it would be way faster and cheaper both in regards to sticker price and running costs, but it just can’t match Porsche refinementwise.
It's hard to grasp it but this thing is the fastest sedan on the track at Car and Driver's Lightening Lap competition. The ride, luxury and all that performance, it's perfection and you pay dearly for it.
That’s not a scientific test. The Cadillac had inferior tires and the M5 had only one tire set. Both those cars would have posted better times in a more legitimate test run.
I REALLY hope you guys make it to Netflix or Prime or something. This content and the quality deserves to be a real series with seasons!
I dunno. Working with a network requires a lot more foreplanning and coordination -- basically, everything you see on a network or streamer was probably initially planned a year or more ago and might have been canned almost that long. If they were on a network they'd gain a lot of audience and $$ but the show couldn't have the relatively fast turnaround time that to me is one of its most appealing characteristics. So I'm not sure I'd like to see them go that way, though I definitely agree they are some of the very best at what they do and deserve even more popularity and success.
Then the authenticity would drop because Netflix or Amazon would have the final say of how the show goes, not them. It would be neutered.
@@MLHunt I totally get that. I literally look forward to their reviews all the time. It really makes my morning go by on a high note, and I know I’m not the only one who gets excited when we get a new video. And not to mention their fine print series, mini documentaries. It’s just great automotive content like no other. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love what we get now, but honestly these guys are just that good.
Quality content comes from home. The geese are 11/10 a true luxurious symphony that is their work. I hope to continue meet them someday!
They dont have a black lesbian, so its a no from netflix :/
You guys are perfect! Please keep up the good work. I've been watching your channel for 2 months but i can already say that you guys are my favorite car magazine cahnnel all across youtube. I was searching for a channel that gives technical information about cars not babbling and i found you. Wish you good healt and enjoying this all new video.
This car is in a league of its own in every respect. Personally, the Turbo S Sport Turismo variant would be my choice.
Agreed. Not only do you get much better rear headroom so you can scare your friends, you also get more interesting and distinctive styling. This conventional hatchback looks nice, but somewhat generically Porsche.
Well there goes my plan of buying a $70,000 Genesis G80 sport, LOL. I think this at $199K, will do nicely.
It’s like a Golf R x2.Not figuratively, almost literally. 2.0L I4 x2 -> 4.0 V8.
315 hp x2 -> ~630 hp (technically 620)
157 hp/liter vs 155.
~Low to mid 4 seconds -> ~mid to upper 2’s.
3,200 lbs -> ~5,000 lbs (ok x1.6)
AWD 4-door hatchback-> AWD 4-door “hatchback”
DSG-> PDK
Only thing that’s not “double” is MSRP but I don’t think the Turbo S is wildly overpriced, just mildly for the segment... a base Turbo is plenty
The combined laughter at 7:09 is a thing of beauty. Also, those 8 cylinders causing it.
Customers: people who have structured their business and personal finances around tax laws so leasing a $200k car will result in the car not only being free, but paying the owner/lessee.
or a $600k a year neurosurgeon in nyc
I must be dumb, tell me how...exactly..?
@@JS-sy8mo you can deduct the lease costs from your business
@@coolsahib Just have to claim it's a necessary business expense. You need to impress clients and make it to meetings in Pittsburgh faster than you could fly. The IRS doesn't catch the frauds because they aren't given enough money to investigate them.
@@tt-nm4yj close to 1 million in shithole NYC
Never seen Savagegeese smile. Even when he was hooning the Honda Odyssey he did it with a straight face
3-5 years from now the brake rotor will just be completely covered with a caliper.
Drum brakes making the comeback we never expected
@@kevinponce8525 Full circle, so to speak 😉
@@kevinponce8525 VW is already putting them on the rear axle of the ID.3 and Continental is even developing drum brakes that are as good as disk breaks😂
It will be needed when Porsche builds an 8,000 pound EV that goes zero to 60 in 1 second.
12 to 24 pistons in a circle on a disc is common on airliners. Be careful looking it up, because it is serious brake porn!
I could watch hours and hours of Porsche technical material and discussion. Moar!
@8:11 to @8:17 Those spolier wings opening and closing 🤩🤩
Great review. Watching your videos is like hanging out with old friends.
The filming and editing is awesome. Always improving each video 🤙🏻 love the content as always
This is the first car I'll buy after I short sell Tesla
Good luck bro
My first car was my 1973 VW Superbeetle which I owned for 18 years and took me through many ups and downs from high school through graduate school. Fast forward, I own a 2011 Maybach V12 6.0 liter with 620 hp/738 lbs ft of torque. Something very special about German cars, regardless of price point or generation(s).
Its funny that the more I learn about high performance super vehicles the less I can see myself wanting one. More car than I can use is right! Perhaps 10 times more than the car I can use. Tells me that design is perhaps more important to me than I thought, and that a humbler experience is closer to ideal.
This car costs double what my house did.
You can't tell me you wouldn't want one if you could have one haha
Nah been the opposite for me man you only live once i wanna feel the thrill of insanely fast performance cars
I love the timing of the jingle after closing thoughts. Reminds me of a PSA. And your vids are definitely a public service
This should fit right at home in my gated community where no one would dare park a vehicle in their garage that does not cost at least 6 figures.
To 99% of people it looks like a $30,000 2010 Panamera.
What a stretch
No one looks at a Panamera as a cheap used car lol. You’d be the first. It’s not a 2008 328i or e350 with tint and big rims
@@Youcallthesebagels_ I never said “cheap used car.” A 12 year old car that’s still in the 30’s isn’t exactly cheap. Fact remains that they do look the same. You know what nobody has REALLY never said? “Wow that Porsche Panamera looks like a $200,000 car!”
Agree totally. It's a really strange category of sleeperism...any other new $80-$100k car/suv is gonna give off substantially more "wealth" vibe...
I agree. No non car people are impressed by any Panamera.
You never disappoint.
Mark's smile is the most genuine thing I've seen all year
Warms my heart 🥲
I’ve got an all black 2021 Panamera Turbo S Executive
Fully agree with this video! The car absolutely blows my mind!
(actually, I disagree with the comment regarding not liking the brakes at low speeds….the brakes are wonderful at all speeds)
I gotta go drive somewhere….
Who cares that nobody knows you're driving something so expensive as long as you enjoy the vehicle itself. My 2 favourite luxury brands are Lexus and Porsche, both have unquestionably amazing cars, and both of them are pretty stealthy about it.
I know people loved to hate the first gen Panamera but I have always wanted one. When Porsche makes a new vehicle they kill it in the what ever segment it’s in.
3 months ago I replaced my previous 2018 Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo with my new Turbo S Sport Turismo, and just completed a 600 mile ski trip yesterday. I run snow tires for winter, PS4S tires the rest of the year. As much as I loved my previous car, and as fast as it was, I can only say "Wow" about the new one. Obviously there's no Autobahn in the US and no place to truly stretch the legs of this car. But for me, it's all about passing trucks and campers on a two-lane road. Passing is almost instantaneous. It will go from 60 mph to "highly illegal" in the blink of an eye. Even with snow tires, it's a great drive on a (dry) winding mountain road. Even on snow and ice, the traction, braking and handling are as good as anything I've driven in 50 years of skiing. I simply can't imagine a better car for the purpose. I even did a lap on an autocross course a week ago, snow tires and all. I took our AX chairman for the ride, and his eyes almost popped out of his head when I did a launch control start. Nobody there could believe that such a big, heavy beast could be that fast! Yup, this one's a keeper!
Brooo what's your annual salary?!
@@pakigangsta5 Nowhere close to what this video implies. I'm retired, from a couple of pretty good government jobs and still working part-time. But not married, no kids, so I get to spend it on cars!
hmm yes, quite exquisite. As an intellectual and totally someone who can afford a Porsche, I’m suddenly highly intrigued by this model in particular. I can’t wait to make my decision for my upcoming 22nd birthday as a gift to myself. There truly is no better option than Porsche.
I think, maybe a 3 bedroom house is better value for the same money, and when I leave skid marks, I don't have to worry about replacing expensive tyres.
The people paying 200k for a car won't want to live in a place a 3 bdrm house only costs 200k
@@TheChannel1978 probably, but in the UK we also have a sense of humour.
At about 10:15 he says how hard it is to go back once you have driven such a car. I totally agree, my thoughts too. I own a Cayenne Turbo (my first ever porsche) and it is one of the first things I said to myself. Even if it is an older model, I do not care, it is all I will drive (and I am sure the Turbo Panamera is equally great).
I've been really considering this being the next step up from my s5 sb looking for a 2020 by next year , I don't know about a S model here but I do worry a bit about real long term maintenance buying new the price is great at the start but then add in all the knick nacks you'd somewhat expect in a near 100k base 4 but it's a tough one to gripe for now ..
I was fortunate enough to experience one of these across Europe for a month.
An amazingly capable product, everything you say is true.
Back home in Oz, such a thing is utterly and shamefully wasted, but to me, still very desirable.
I was considering either a Subaru Outback or this thing and your video convinced me to take a second mortgage on my home and buy this powerful wagon
I have a 1997 Outback and just picked up a used 2012 base Panamera 4 (6 cylinder). Everything everyone says here is true. Knowing I can never go back, at least I have a few remaining steps up before hitting maximum Panamera :-)
@@SSLOOOWWWWTunes Nice! So long as you are the one driving it and can't see its reflection then it's a great car!
Porsche never disappoints
All I could think of was Bevis and Butthead when Mark floored it and hear the laugh. 😂
2:53 oh wow, just one shot of this?
This looks amazing
after having the lucky chance of driving one (one of the very few perks of being a designated driver) this car became an aspirational car for me; not like for example a LaFerrari, any Lamborghini or even a 911 where I like the machines but I don't want to own then, I actually want one even though I don't need nor can I afford it
2:58 - those gold bars bust me up every time I see them!!
I have a '21 GTS with PDCC .. amazing engineering ... I've had several 911's and the drive is pretty much identical .. thanks for the review !
It would be a great video to show the Panamera Turbo S in its natural habitat, the Autobahn! An amazing piece of unobtanium.
@Savagegeese I enjoy watching all your content. Im 26 right now and make 50k/year doing HVAC work. When im around 40 years old Id love to be able to afford some of the nicer cars you review!
Ah yes, my older girlfriend lets me drive her Panamera Turbo, she says I drive it better than her husband who she says is too conservative with his approach to lifestyle but that he needs to vet his prestigious position in society.
Bet you drive her better too 😂
A few non-car people have mistaken my TLX Type S for the Panamera.
200k? You can barely afford a base model Panamera with zero options in my country with that low of a budget, America sure is a heaven for car enthusiasts.
We can’t afford it either
a base version with 0 options costs 328k in my country 💀
I don’t know about this…going to have to watch the Kia Sportage review before deciding.
We have a Panamera Sport Turismo GTS and love it! The engine is crazy, the exhaust note makes me want to hit the gas every few seconds!! Would love to get into the Turbo S next!
Loved this videos, very concise and professional, subscribed liked and all the bells and wistles.
Also i had the chance to drive the panamera turbo gen 2 has well, and i agree with everything you guys said, its the most germanic sports luxury sedan off all, over engineered, the best built cabin on the market honestly, and very very capable indeed. Loved it
Love that the song title in the opening interior shot is "Piano Black".
7:06 The "I love driving and making 6 figures" laugh
I feel like the S8 would have all the luxury and performance I would need in a car this size and you could save over 80k.
Starting to see some early model ones in the hood out here. Cloudy headlights and bald tires
Nice review, keep it up guys.
Kinda bummed this one didn't come with Burmester. Makes a huge difference over the 'whatever' Bose
"Ahh Jack, This is completely necessary!" HaHaa, Stil laughing, Love you guys, always enjoy your technical reviews. :-)
I was waiting for the drink container to jump out of the holder and end in the back seat when Mark did the acceleration test.
The gold bullions in the trunk killed me… 🤣
Sport Turismo ( wagon) is the only decent-looking one out of the body styles.
These guys deserve way more attention.
Porsche there is no Substitute. I went to Stuttgart US High School. And on the way to school on the bus I saw the first 959, and the shop mechanic working on a 911 by hand early in the morning. The window was open so anyone can see! Relative of the 928!
I drove one on a Porsche sponsored track day. The difference between the bloated cow of the standard Panamera and the TS, is astounding. When you mash the pedal or hit a corner in the TS, you can't help but cackle like a child.
it is cool with rear camera views, watching the wing deploy in the back
I have an ugly 2010 Turbo. The thing is absolutely amazing. Straight bargain compared to anything even close to its build quality and performance.
11:10 the spoiler expansion is a beauty
The other thing about this car is the way it shrinks around you when driving.
Beautiful video. Always informative and entertaining.
Panamera with gold bars
Hopefully you guys can get the Taycan GTS soon, that car is amazing.
Aren’t all Porsches amazing? 😂
Kind of ugly, to my eye. Impressive, yes, but it reminds me of the homely 1st gen Panamera. The Taycan seems more like a technology showcase than a cohesive car. A good EV performance car should be much more efficient than it is.
I sat in one at a Porsche showroom event in a shopping mall in Hong Kong and made vroom vroom noises, does that count as having the full experience in this car?
Marcellus Wallace brief case in the trunk was a great touch
The capabilities of this car far outstretch our roads here in the US. Still want one though.
Porsche, the only company that can simultaneously peddle incredible BEVs while also upstaging their one party trick with ye olde dino burner. Incredible car.
Finally my dream car is reviewed
That wing shook me
One caliper on that thing has the same number of pistons as my entire car.
Creates using Dell Technologies and Patagonia Clothing…
Keep up the great work fellas (and people behind the fellas).
Look at that torque curve
The 0-60 time on this car is about the same as my attention span
I have the 22 GTS. Unbelievable car.
7:07 - Never gets old. I love you guys! Pop Tart gang reporting for duty haha
I’ve finally seen the inside of the MacGuffin
That cup is making me so anxious...
Maybe I missed it, but for 200k does this have dual port injection?
I want a half hour video of Goose and Jack laughing 7:08
Im here for the pure pleasure of viewing.
Great review once again! Would suggest cleaner driving experience video segment without the styrofoam cup next time.
Beautiful inside out
Great review guys!
Jhonny Porsche is right, without the Autobahn you will never truly fully experience a product like this
I'm so excited -- when my corporate overlords harvest my kidneys, they (my kidneys) might get to experience Porsche horsepower.
This is what I need to get away from the stressful tedium of growing my shareholders' wealth. This car makes it easy, unlike my CFO, Darius, who expects me to understand what his damn numbers mean every month end. I only care to know that I'm making money and that's it. Like Porsche gets it, why can't he?
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Just a side bar here but you guys need to take a look at the BMW M8 competition gran coupe a direct competitor to this Panamera but easier on the wallet and better looking