2020 Porsche Macan S | It's Hard To Accept Reality
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- We review the 2020 Porsche Macan S. Many will complain about the SUV and CUV market takeover. Lets get real, people are buying more and more of them and we dissect whether or not this is a good or bad thing for the Porsche brand. With other vehicles like the BMW X3, X5, Alfa Stelvio, Jaguar F-Pace, Audi Q5 you had better get your schedules cleared to test drive all of them.
Index:
00:00 - 00:53 Intro
00:53 - 7:51 Interior Impressions
7:51 - 12:14 In the Shoppe - Front Suspension and Body
12:14 -14:32 Rear Suspension and Manufacturing
14:32 - 16:25 Engine Details
16:25 - 23:32 Driving Impressions
22:32 Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I prefer to have a ton of buttons than having all the options buried in the infotainment system. I hate having through dig through menus while I’m driving!
Yup. What happens when the screen crashes and you can't turn on the AC.
Me too, I think the center console looks awesome, like you're piloting a jet plane
Flip phone likes! 🤣🎛️📻
@@ponrixI’ve lived with multiple cars that had touch screen HVAC controls. If it “crashes” you reset the screen. Problem solved. It’s literally not even a problem
Agree!
I started watching this on my phone then immediately moved into the theater room to appreciate the cinematography and soundtrack. Excellent work, Mark.
WILSON, Mr. Goose makes the prettiest car videos on CZcams.
I moved into my conservatory with some cognac
Gladly threw it up on my 180 inch screen.
Same, put it up on my private Imax cinema
Same, except I’ve rented it out an entire cinema for a week and will now play it on every single screen. I will not leave the building for the whole week, and will survive solely off the most expensive meal on the menu.
The camera work is outta this world 👌🏾
Best car review channel out there.
hugolafhugolaf hands down!! These two are the pinnacle of car reviews love it!! The most knowledge and honesty out there!!!
It always is!
Savagegeese is top-tier
The open aperture blurred out background interior shots are some of the best I've seen in car reviews.
I definitely like your style. You're blunt, honest, and still keep it light. And putting cars on a lift for a different perspective is great. It's not something anyone else is really doing. Keep up the excellent reviews.
Andrew Allen glad you liked the video.
@@jackholmes8105 No one goes underneath a car for a review but it’s crucial for a comprehensive eval. 👍 I’d like to see reviewers weigh the cars using a portable commercial vehicle scale to get a better understanding of curb weights because those numbers are often ignored or they vary all over the place.
Best motoring did it decades ago.
these SUVs earn Porsche so much money, they’re the reason why they can continue to make 911s and not worry about low sales.
Um... that’s not really true.
Despite people claiming things such as: “Manufactures only make SUVs to fund their sports/supercars” is untrue.
Firstly, the margins Porsche makes on their supercars/sports cars is crazy. You spend $80,000+ on a base level Porsche car with nothing in it. They incentivize you to equip your car with options.
Alright, now back to the main point.
While the SUVs saved the Porsche company itself, they don’t dump most of their money into supercars/sports cars with revenue collected from SUVs. They put it back into the SUV’s research and development for their next generation.
Companies aren’t stupid. They know SUVs sell. If they dump most of their RND budget building supercars/sports cars, sure, they’ll boost their reputation-but they’ll take a huge hit in sales when the competition starts coming out with nicer SUV’s and Porsche would have nothing to compete with in that market segment.
@@de_stroyed thats a cute tldr but op didnt say they use their suv revenue to put into 911s, he just said it keeps them safe revenue wize to not have to cut into sports car rnd and or production.
hmm hmm such wize words
@@de_stroyed right... 911 earns most margin over any other vehicle
Skylar jesus christ what is this comment
This is one of the best car reviews I've ever seen- the camera work, the mechanical highlights, and the understanding of the vehicle and its intended audience is just fantastic. You've completely sold me on the car too. It's now my dream daily driver
Originally wasn’t necessarily a fan of your channel, I passed over your videos although sometimes skipping through your videos. I did however recently give your Ford Explorer a full watch and was very impressed because it mimicked my impressions I got from multiple ford products recently yet in a much more in depth way. Definitely a channel for people who truly care about more than just 0-60 and basic driving dynamics. Keep up the good work
This is arguably the best car channel on YT, how could you not have been a fan in the beginning ?
3 Pedals People can have opinions and can change their views. Flexibility exists. Fuck off
Girls girls what’s with the sexual tension? Get a room , no one is watching .
I'm not an SUV guy by any means - especially "sporty" SUVs - but the Macan is my guilty pleasure.
Don't categorize yourself. You're placing limits on life.
16:07 Thank you savagegeese! We love to see the weight distribution of the cars you review. Please keep this as a regular part of the show!
I'm surprised at the difference between left and right.... never figured it was that much.
You guys are in another level compared with the other youtuber reviewers, love it every min
Mr. Goose isn't a CZcamsr. He's a filmmaker.
Nice review, great meeting you yesterday at the Home Depot!
"You could put a Porsche badge on a dumpster, and I would tell you about that dumpster's racing pedigree"
At least he can admit it.
802 Garage haha yup. we all have our guilty pleasures. If you ever get a chance go drive a 911 or cayman/718 hard it’s pretty mind altering. We did a 911t minus the red eye it was my favorite press car of 2019.
@@jackholmes8105 I've only driven a Boxster and a Cayenne. :'( I know Porsche is special though. I'm sure I'll get to drive some 911s and such eventually. :)
And it would have dynamic crossweight.
Crazy honest!!!!
You guys are next level with your reviews. You really stand out on a platform inundated with "car review" channels. Great work. I really enjoy your videos.
The cpo price for these is pretty reasonable compared to what these go for new. Personally, having your first porche purchase be an SUV is hard to get over...
True, but it will be foolish to drive these in any someway other than leasing.
@@nsbioy Perhaps, but porsche certainly aren't as poor as Merc/BMW reliability wise. Leasing is a total waste of money anyways, so I don't really see your point whatsoever. Less headaches potentially and that's about it.
@@aiGeis Agree on leasing being expensive. It makes sense for a couple of scenarios: (i) you are willing - and can afford - to pay extra to drive a new car constantly; (ii) you are thinking of a BMW/Merc/VW or (iii) you are planning to die in 3 years. So yes, sometimes leasing is a good option.
I bought a 2018 CPO for $40k with 3800 miles. CPO gives you a total of 7 years warranty with the last two years unlimited mileage. It’s better warranty and cheaper than leasing one.
aiGeis leasing is actually quite cheap, my mom
Is driving a 60k Mercedes suv for $630 for 30 months. She gets to swap the car 6 months earlier for no charge and doesn’t have to worry about anything. Oil changes included, tires , rotations, etc etc. we’ve had a great experience with the service so far too. Of course the cars are never yours but it makes sense if you just like having the newest vehicle for a lot less.
I really enjoy how your channel puts the cars on lifts to see the real details. Gives consumers and potential buyers a much better idea. Thank you for not just being another CZcams channel that just reviews car and has cool footage.
The production quality of your videos is amazing. Thank you so much. It’s very much appreciated. In years to come a new generation will watch this and still think Fkn wow!
Keep up the great work dude. You have some of the best quality videos in the automotive reviewing space
Ive driven this exact spec of the Macan with the Chronopack and for the power and type of vechile it is, it drives insanely good. It does comfort, sport and practicallity better than 95% of the competition.
You are really setting the benchmark for every aspect of car reviewing--presentation style, information presented and the manner in which it's presented, the audio and camerawork. Just amazing and a real pleasure to watch. I just saw a neighbor who bought a white Macan S 2 weeks ago, and although I've always loved how they look, never knew much about them. What a well thought out, well-engineered vehicle that seems to do just about everything well. Thank you!
"this hood costs more than both of us combined" hilarious yet most likely accurate. In would say the air suspension here probably rivals it in cost
I've had a new Macan S since May 2019 - every day is an enjoyable adventure !
I am utterly uninterested in this vehicle but I am watching the entire review because I respect how much time and effort you put into each review.
Thank you for making your videos and sharing. You definitely throw a different but much appreciated spin on auto videos. Great job. Many more to come. And looking forward...
This post really surprised me. I'm thinking of buying this exact model, and from the reviews i've watched, this is head and shoulders above the rest. The camera work is fantastic - beautifully shot. And the level of detail, on items that people actually want to know about, is great. Coupled with some very well explained mechanical information, this is the best car review on CZcams i've seen.
I have a 2020 Macan S without the chrono package and air suspension, but well equipped otherwise. Your review is spot on per my own experiences after 5000 miles of ownership. It is a joy to drive and the quality of assembly and attention to detail is worth the additional cost if you are the type of driver/owner that can appreciate those differences. Keep up the great work, your reviews are among the best in my opinion.
Still have it? How’s it going?
Love the tour of the undercarriage. Much more informative than tour of the interior.
This would have to be one of the best reviews on CZcams. Excellent work guys.
Awesome review and use of the lighting for the video sections!! Love it when we get to have both of you in the driving section to be honest.
The best review of Macan I've seen. The important is to spec the car to your needs. The basic 2 litre riding on the steel suspension is a very different car to S or even the new GTS on the air suspension.
Anyone else catch “Ford” flashed when he’s talking about panel gap?
No Tesla
Old lay enough my f150 is fine with panel gaps. Must be either the new stuff or anything but the f150. Toyota and Nissan are worse.
yes I did at 12.42 #FORD
@@FishFind3000 Toyota is worse? Toyota is known for having some of the highest quality manufacturing processes, especially when concerning their architecture. Ford is far worse, and their newer vehicles are awful. They've been pumping out shit engines coupled with shotty build quality, as shown on the new ranger and their explorer, savagegeese specifically roasted the explorer on its panel gaps.
You have no clue what you're talking about, I don't know how Nissan is doing but Toyota is and always will be miles better then ford, I mean hell they have completely different approaches to manufacturing vehicles to begin with(Reliability + refinement over tech). You're a bafoon do you even watch this youtuber, have you learned anything? Pathetic ford shill you're either deceitful or purposefully filter out information you don't want to hear.
FishFind3000 Toyota is known for being quite good with exact measurements
Best car channel ! All reviews are technically superior to all other channels. Concise and on point inputs and recommendations. Great job
Throwing your review vehicles on a lift and getting us under the skirt views is an epic hook. It's a view a lot of us rarely get, and it can tell us more about quality, best practices, and where corners have been cut than anything else. Easy to create a body that looks decent, but under the skin is where the truth comes out. Awesome.
Coming from a 2018 Macan GTS I can safely say it is a very good all around car. Fun when you want it to be but extremely refined and comfortable for the commute. It’s very apparent to me why Porsche sells so many of these. Thanks for the review!
I've been waiting so long for your review of the Macan. Agree on all points. Have gotten Macan, Macan S or Cayenne loaners whenever my car needs a service. What stood out for me vs. other S/CUVs are 1) steering 2) brakes 3) suspension control, 4) quiet. Surprised to find that the base 4 cyl, despite being slow and sounding like aToyota Corolla, was more fun to drive around town. The lightness helped steering and playfulness. But either was superior to the previous Cayenne. Would love to hear your thoughts on the current Cayenne.
I find it disappointing that they basically gave the same 4 cylinder as from the Q5, but you might be right. I have a X5 40i but the X3 30i I test drove was definitely more engaging in town, despite being slower. I think Porsche is the only brand that beats BMW in terms of driving dynamics in their SUV line up. Q5's are not impressive at all. It's not as quiet as a GLC, and doesn't have the combination of fineness and performance from the X3. Macan however is almost universally agreed as the best handling small SUV, and is obvious that Porsche did a lot of work on this car.
Hands down the best vehicle review channel. It keeps you engaged without getting into too much detail like demero.
Everything is perfect with you! It's relaxing watching your videos even if I'm not interested, I still be here. Thank you for not screaming/trying to be funny! That's why I subscribed.
Ive had the 2015 Macan S for 3 years now. It's hands down my favorite car I've ever owned. Because of how simple the button become and the easy steering wheel controls. I bought this car firstly because the seat coolers worked so well! No other car that had seat cooler came close to the macan. It's just really well put together and I will miss her because I had to put her up for sale recently due to a baby coming. But I loved how this car did everything so well. But I do believe porsche did not push the bar forward with the new generation. It looks worse than previous gen and not enough was done to interior to call it a new model. This was the facelift it needed in 2018, not the new model.
How was the reliability over the 3 years? Any mechanical problems?
What baby had to do with you giving up the macan? I’m asking because I’m considering macan because I’m having a baby. 🤨 You mean you changed your macan for a cheaper car or wasn’t the space enough?
The back seats are not very big. You need space to fit the baby seat. Also going to be hard on your back lifting the kid into that back seat. So traded for a mercedes e450 wagon.
@@huynh4880is the wagon better for baby duties?
I'm exactly like the dude above, looking at Macans as I have my first baby on the way. Is it unsuitable?
Another contender is an M340i touring (I'm in the UK)
Once again a superb review guys TY. I have a 2018 Macan Turbo and you captured it. The Turbo's extra power is transformational btw versus the S. Feels more like a GT car or very high end sports sedan. Great for long trips. Back seat is fine as long as you are not LARGE. You feel the Porsche DNA in how it puts the power down coming out of a turn. It squats and shoots forward like my 993. Porsche style great brakes and steering, but very quiet and relaxing at high speeds. BTW.. on the 2018 I think if u got Burmeister sound system you lost the collapsible spare tire and got a can of goo.
The random outburst are welcome & a nice touch man, great reviews as always!
Love this channel, best man in the business. Mr Geese probably grew up reading issues of Automobile magazine like I did, even the columns that seemed only tangentially related to cars. Sublime reviews, keep them coming.
Love the 80's track on the driving scene.
I understand the point you were trying to make about this car being “non-aspirational” however, I myself cannot see an 83k vehicle as anything but aspirational.
Nate it is a luxury vehicle, but it’s pretty obtainable as far as Porsches go.
@@adamchu1315 in my country it almost cost double around 130k USD
I think he means it in the sense that kids aren't pasting posters of the Macan on their bedroom walls. It's expensive, but it's not really a dream car.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri exactly! I mean there are people that aspire to own a 911 Turbo or a GT3 or something someday, but the Macan is just a luxury CUV for people who can afford it.
Lightly Used macans are going for 30s
What you said about the suspension is so true. It's spot-on.
Personally having driven this car through downtown Philadelphia over some really rough roads, and aggressively, it's incredible how composed and comfortable it is no matter where you take it or how you drive it.
I just recommended this channel to a friend who is a mega car nut because even if you’re not interested in the vehicle that is being reviewed- Kia Soul i.e.- the review is so good that it’s fun to watch. Keep up the good work Mark!
I'm wondering how much Jack's curling with these massive guns. :)
Great content. Showing exterior in the pond was a great idea ;)
“All the things you want from a fun sporty whatever you want to call it”
NEW CATEGORY NAME
Shitbox
This is one of the best video reviews I have ever seen. Great work.
This channel has the best production quality AND music selection of any car youtuber. Keep it up Mr Goose!!!
I recently purchased the 2020 Macan (4cyl) amazing car especially in the corner, my only regret is that I should’ve bought the Macan S
Is it worth spending the extra money for the S?
Best car review channel on CZcams
Very detailed review. The roads look super smooth where you are. Makes driving even more fun !
Love this channel and appreciate all of the work that goes into making these videos. Shocked that you didn't slam the plastics on the door panels and rest of the interior as hard as you do in other cars/videos. We now know your pet brand.
You know.... I've been waiting for this review for a while... Comes 2 days after picking up a Sapphire Blue 2018 Macan.
Waste of money
@@lethalpenguin61 Actually, if you go with a CPO, its quite a value. Less than the Discover Sport I traded, and even lower insurance. This review is pretty spot on, and the vehicle is a pretty fantastic compliment to my Boxster S. Different strokes.
Very good car, you,ll enjoy it very much.
lethalpenguin61 I can promise you, it is not a waste of money
Lethalpenguin61 somebody just bought a car. Show some respect
Porsche did a superb job of integrating the infotainment screen into the dashboard on this, instead of having one that sticks out like a sore thumb like in most other recent cars.
Well done review. I'm lucky enough to have one of these and a 991S in the garage and this test is pretty much spot - on.
Definitely in all honesty...maybe on of the best reviews you’ve done man!
Dam...you sold me on the 2019 Acura RDX. We chose the RDX over the Macan at the time (it was...uh..complicated lol). I’ve always loved the Macan since it first came out. And my wife and I are perfectly happy with the RDX. But here you go again SG, turning my automotive lust upside down.
I absolutely love the 80s spin you put on the intros and your candidness
You guys rock!! Honestly youtube should just get rid of all the other reviewers on the channel.. they cant even light a candle to u guys.. awesome job fellas keep up the great work
In a car that is very well covered, I think you guys have done a wonderful job in sharing factual insight about the car as well as great personal insight. Job well done
The Macan drives like the best and most-sorted GTI without the constant understeer and inability to put down power.
So like a golf r?
Sergey No, like a properly sorted RWD car. Golf R is nose-heavy and runs a FWD Haldex system so it's really just a faster RAV4. Go drive a Macan, Porsche actually made it into something special.
@@Ficon Rav4 lol
Outdoor Layne Golf R is an overpriced GTI. Macan runs a modified Carrera 4 AWD system. I used to own a Mk 7 GTI, it was so frustrating to drive.
Sergey Four cylinders, front wheel drive with on-demand rear. The same setup as every cute-ute on the market. Go drive a Macan. I used to hate Porsches until I drove one (and then many more) too.
I can confirm the front and rear control arms are directly off the Audi Q5. I just rebuilt a Q5 on my channel, and the rear lower control arm I bought used off a Macan S. As long as you match suspension options from both vehicles, they are identical other then spring stiffness.
Not correct, the Macan does not share a single spring and damping component that is relevant to driving performance with a Q5. Everything is unique. The axle components are the same though as explained in the video
@@computercrack Could it be a generational thing? When I was looking up the replacement parts for my 2015 Q5 the information I was given was that they were swappable. Unless I misunderstood what the parts guy meant by interchangeable or he was also mistaken 🤷♂️.
@@sbscars depends on what specific part you are talking about. All control arms should be swappable @front and rear axle and some of the suspension components like the damper fork. Damper, steel springs and air suspension are unique for sure (1. Gen Q5 didn't even have air suspension this was developed by Porsche first for this kind of middle size SUV). Also Macan offered a continually controlled damper (same like in the air spring) together with steel spring setup which the Q5 didn't have (and still doesn't have today I believe but I'm too lazy to look it up).
@@computercrack The parts guy just made a blanket statement along the lines of "oh yeah the control arms and suspension stuff is pretty much interchangeable". Last time I ever accept information from my local parts goon 🤦♂️ shame on me I guess, sorry for the confusion!
@@sbscars no problem :)
Great review. Thank You. I’m heading to there website now to configure. Been looking for a new daily Driver and never gave this one any thought. Thanks again
Earned my subscription on this one! Fantastic review, great quality video.
Great review! What about new Q&A with Todddddd and Scott? By the way, where is Turbowski?
Test drove Macan Base and was impressed. Although, to truly appreciate its power you have to at least go with Macan S.
New subscriber, i think this is my favourite car review channel. More information, great camera work, less dry humour and other stuff.
Awesome video! I have been to the factory in Leipzig and they almost handbuild them there. Also they track every single unit for a couple laps on their own race track right next to the assembly line, so they do track Macans all the time Jack. There even is an offroad course specially made for the Macan. That is why every new Porsche will have some miles on the clock already, they do not turn them back after the test.
This is a beautiful SUV, I’d love to have one.
You had my attention from the very beginning, but that launch, that damn launch...
Man I wish I made the kind of money needed to get one of these.
Practical, and fast?
Hoo boy.
Very well thought out review...
I would buy it for my wife and I.
Size is just right for an almost empty nesters like us.
It would be a very good replacement for my wife's 2004 Honda Odyssey!
Gotta have winter tires for the winter. That's for sure!
Keep doing what you're doing, Guys!..
Exactly why I bought a Macan S. Perfect blend of sports car and CUV that I love to drive everyday!
That launch is insane! I felt it through the screen!
I like Porsche cars and SUVs. For the reasons you mentioned in your video, Quality. They focus on giving their buyers a quality product.
A quick story. I remember the first time I saw a Macan was at a gas station. The person driving it was a young man in High School. Of course I thought his parents bought it for him but I was wrong. Turns out he had a successful online store and was able to buy the Macan for himself. Very cool what can happen if someone is given a good example by their family. (:
Great review. I loved the layout and the index. I drove one yesterday and agree with everything you've said. Instant subscribe.
I have watched a few reviews here and I am impressed. A notch above what I would even hope for from CZcams. I wish you would have told my why the hell it needed an active front grill though.
Is Scott Turbowski ever coming back or did him and audience member run off together?
Qugie he ran off with Toddd
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT what happened?
He has a full time job at another shop
You actually miss him?!?
Did I see a 0.5 second flash of the word FORD at around 12:42 when the narrator spoke about panels having different gaps in their fitting?
Philip Shim: Yup, very clever. Nice little Easter Egg.
I started watching this from my cardboard box, and quickly moved to my trash can to appreciate the cinematography and the soundtrack. Bravo!
This is my first tie at your channel and I will be returning. You guys are great...thx!
Loving the content
16:44 LOL that's a crazy launch!
Damn holds at 5k for the launch!
HOLY SHI*!
Great review (tho I'm biased as a Macan owner...) - really enjoying your videos. Also love the fact that you're local to me... I spot ALL those roads, same ones I go run around on!
Coming up to 2 years of ownership in March, still in love with my Macan s and just bought another 4 years factory warranty for piece of mind.
Wienerschnitzel review?
I'm interested.
Mhm
I was actually thinking of a different type of food when reading "Macan".
buttons is the most attracting thing in this interior.
In all the Porsche reviews I am surprised by the complaint that the steering wheel heat button is “hidden” on the steering wheel. Once you know it’s there, it’s always easy to find. Many other car’s steering wheel heat button is in plain sight somewhere on the dash among a forest of other buttons, forcing you to take your eye off the road to find it. I always can find my hidden button because it’s in the most convenient location ever.
No body does it better than Mark. Hands down the best reviewer out there. Thanks for the hard work and effort.
Right up there at the top .. check out Thomas (AGF) 🇩🇪 too… 👍🏾
I love all the little jokes and easter eggs in the videos.
LMAOOOOO the 'Holy Shit!' at 17 min is hilarious......!
Great Review.
I never took this car seriously, (I had my mind set on Cayenne) Until I bought one. Driven it for a month now and have totally changed my mind. This car is not trying to be like anything else on the market. It's not blistering fast, (But definitely fast enough) it's not a super car, but it is practical, and an absolutely wonderful car to drive daily. It is beautifully Porsche if you give it a chance.
I have a Cayenne S that is used and licensed as an emergency vehicle, and in the winter with studded tires, it gets to emergencies on steep hills that other vehicles more commonly used (fire trucks, Tahoe's, pickups, etc) can't get to, even with tire chains. Precisely one of the reasons why I bought that car, the four-wheel-drive system is excellent.
Love this channel
Ignoring money, I think it's a beautiful crossover. I would never buy one unless I had heaps of money to throw away. But we're car enthusiasts. We want cars that make us feel a certain way, and this ain't it. That's okay. It allows Porsche to make the cars we like.
Lobster Johnson I good CPO S model will be in the $40-50K range. I drove many of them. Good as new. Go that route. It’s just a great, great car.
Hands down, best car reviewer around! Great work as usual.
Slammed my Macan S down low w a KW coilover and $1,200 cobb tune. Now it's a 4 second little street hot hatch Eater. Love my Macan. Our Boxster S is my weekend car and love love love them both. Thank you Porsche 🎉
I prefer a lot of buttons to a touchscreen
As someone who owns a Macan, it fits almost anything! My friends model X can't fit half things in it!
That introduction was so good I had to watch it twice.
HONESTLY SOME OF THE BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY I HAVE EVER SEEN WELL DONE