So if the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) asks for title to be erased by Ali (may Allah be pleased with him), this makes that person a deviant Sahaba? Ofcourse not, it's a mistake out of wrong opinion, Omar (may Allah be pleased with him) was referring to RasulAllah (SAW)'s severe sickness and this was his reasoning and wrong opinion, which is a mistake just like the former.
The Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, was on his deathbed and was very stressed, and Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, may God be pleased with him, wanted him to rest.
And when Prophet PBUH commands the people not to curse his Sahabah, you obey. And when Allah SWT commands you to only worship and call on him alone, you obey.
Right? No sources, all excuses and speculation. The more I watch these types of videos trying to counter the teachings of Shiasm, the stronger my faith in it becomes.
@@hf8547 He doesn't have to provide sources since the source you use backfires at you. Ali didn't bring the pen and paper, Ali disobeyed the prophet, Ali isn't infallible, Shiism is false.
Replace Ali(as) with Umar (LA) in your sentences. Disrespected gods greatest creation in the Prophet pbuh and attempted an assassination and you worship him and his daughter more than Allah and Muhammad astaghfurallah. Subhan Allah you have the protectors of umayads who killed the prophets bloodline and the protectors of the prophet and his family. Fear god.
Ali slept in Prophets bed when Prophet made the Hijra to protect the Faith while Umar fled from the wars, WHY? Explanation will be appreciated for your argument @@abhmd4481
So the Prophet a literal messenger of Allah alive in front of you asks for a pen and paper to write something that WILL NOT LEAD YOU ASTRAY. Yet you call him seriously ill and say the quran is enough. There is no excuse for that. Why would you ever reject something this important especially before the death of Rasool Allah
Why would the man RA who fought in the name of Allah and His Prophet SAWW, who gave his daughter to Rasullullah SAWW, who killed his own family members for oppressing his Islamic coreligionists, who would follow The Prophet SAWW's teachings even if they sometimes didn't make sense to him, who rejected his(SAWW) death, even threatening people's lives for acknowledging his death before Abu Bakr RA consoled him, do so for anything other than a fear for the Prophet's SAWW health while he was seriously ill and they hoped against hope that he would get better? What if he believed that he(SAWW) would be able to give such a message at a better time? Is it kufr to have concern for the Messenger SAWW and hope for a better time for the message?
what do you mean say the message at another time, in gahdeer the prophet said i am leaving this world so how else can he give the message, he would simply if omar would just shut up for a sec and do something like smack abu huraira or question the prophet then questioning abu bakr the prophet would have easily given by a pen paper and not only that THEY ANGERED THE PROPHET AND TOLD THEM GET UP AND LEAVE. its like the prophet smiled when he said that.@@ibrahimihsan2090
@@Ishi1XP No it doesn't. Is this really what you Shi'ites are taught? I understand that the words of a prophet are very important but we have to consider that he(SAWW) was human and that people would worry about his health at the time. We have little reason to believe they thought he was about to die(in fact, he may have died a few days later) so it is easy to argue that Umar RA was simply concerned for his health and hoped the Prophet SAWW would give his message at a later time. Also, can you curb your conspiracy theories and at the very least acknowledge that when it comes to this Sunni hadith, the Prophet SAWW wasn't talking about succession but about certain Islamic rulings, most of which he eventually got the chance to inform them about?
Points to refute in summary: Is it Ammar's words or Sahih hadeeth? Is the Qur'an truly enough for us?When it comes to ibadat atleast? Are hadeeth compilers wrong then? Would you deny a man with the best decision making, protected from mistakes and sinning and greatest leader in the world something he wants no matter the situation? Did Umar make it clear that he will ensure Rasoulullah gets them at a later time? If Umar did it out of love, why is he being chased out? (NB companions NOT Family chased out) :) Umar din't say teach us hadeeth. Rasoullullah asked for it. He asks. You obey. Simple
Sayed Ammar provides facts on this matter Farid provides his personal opinion on the matter ... ahlul sunna is amazed by farid 🤣 Always amazes me how easy it is to misguide people The prophet pbuh has appointed imam ali at ghadeer khum , dont deny history.
✝ ( 📖 1 TIMOTHY 2 : 5 ) There is ONE God & there is one mediator between God & Men, the MAN Christ Jesus ➜ According to this verse the mediator between God & men was a MAN, this proves Jesus is NOT God
This shows how deflection is seen as the best argument farid has for his fanboys. Never mind he defending blatantly disobeying RasoolAllah to his face. Not just what but telling RasoolAllah what is enough for Muslims.
5:43 totally weak argument. He said: The Qur'an is enough not "wait until you(oh prophet) get better" or "until the prophet gets better". It Simply doesnt work.
It says in the beginning, "the prophet may peace and blessings be upon him is seriously ill", and then adds that in after, why would he say the prophet is seriously ill if his opinion was only that only the Quran is sufficient for all of time even after him becoming better? It was a wrong opinion of his and a mistake like any human, but you unfortunately will take this as evidence but not the other praises of Umar Al Farooq (Allah be pleases with him).
@@kaiquecrisostomo846Then why did he have to bring up the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) being severely ill? It would be pointless according to your narrative because he should have just said "tHe Quran is enough". Handwaving is not a proper response. How about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) did said "no" to RasulAllah (SAW) and did not erase what he commanded? You will give a good twist to that, but not to this due to your bias?
@@everythingandroidois You disobey RasoolAllah to his face then claim this person was great enough to be prophet! That is where your & farid logic is at gutter level
the prophet pbuh lived for 3 more days, and even gave a sermon in which he said what he would've wrote. so you majoosis stay coping, because you got no evidence for Ali's successorship after the prophet and the infallibility of the 12 ''imams.''
Are you going to defend Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) when he was asked to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW), but he refused to and swore to not in front of RasulAllah (SAW) thereby disobeying RasulAllah (SAW) for a reason he thought was right. So disobedience to RasulAllah (SAW) is relative and cannot be looked at in a way of a human mistake whereby the person thinks for instance RasulAllah (SAW) is severely sick so therefore does not grab pen and paper, a mistake but condemnation forever? No.
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
Narrated by Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her): "When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in his last illness, he asked for a sheet (to cover his body), and he wore it as a garment; then he fainted and, when he recovered consciousness, he asked for a pen and a paper and wrote, 'Write: No one has the right to be worshipped but Allah; and Muhammad is His Messenger.' " (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 64, Hadith 468)
Amazing how the Shi'a claim to love Ali, yet interpret hadith to portray him as a coward incapable of standing up to Umar. Here we have Umar somehow stopping the guidance of the Ummah, and Ali's just letting it happen? A bit like the lies about Fatima's house. Again, Ali, the infallible Imam and praised warrior, fails to stand up for what is right.
He denied pen and paper just because he was caring so much about the PAIN of holy prophet but didnt denied when he was asked to leave and acted upon it 😂. If he was really that much caring person why did he left the prophet in pain instead of staying .
also them saying if Allah really wanted it to happen it would have happened. He would have gotten the pen and paper. it is like saying that if Allah really wanted His creation to worship Him then He would have created us as robots. It is like saying if Allah loves His prophets H e would have given Nabii Nuh and Lut obedient sons and wives. Weak arguments. Anything to defend Umar. Funny thing when he says Ammar says.. no it is not Ammar but Saheeh books
When RasulAllah says he wants something to stop people from going astray, if you truthfully believe his Nubuwwa you would not say anything and you would listen. If the Prophet kicks you out on his deathbed, YOU did something wrong. Wake up akhi, Umar has done a lot of wrong in your own books. It's time we stop making excuses. Politics was as real then as it is now
@@andrewsarinas1180 All the shias in the comments. It's funny everyone says this is "insufficient" and he "needs evidence" when they don't understand that intepreting the text Nakshawani brings forth is using evidence since you could take a bad turn or good turn depending on how you know the person and what people after did. For instance, after this incident, Ibn Abbas RA actually stated that Prophet Muhammad SAW passed away being pleased with Umar RA. We should also make notice that they are humans and they will make mistakes because their judgment of what they think gets in the way like Ali RA refusing (swearing) to erase the title of RasulAllah at treaty of hudaybiyyah. People could take this to a bad turn or good turn, but we know through context that this person was loved by RasulAllah SAW so similarly when Umar RA refers to severe sickness we can assume it was because he RA did not want more pain to Prophet SAW at that moment and knew the message of Islam was complete as Allah revealed so he thought later but he was wrong ofcourse as was Ali RA in that case, so he would wait and the Prophet SAW had three days to say whatever he wanted SAW.
An entire video by Farid and his laanthi face trying to “refute” and the most you took from the video is this 🤣 Mentally challenged and intellectually diminished lot
Oh ok. So according to u the incident of Ghadeer e khum never happened before the Holy Prophet pbuh passed away? He didn't announce his successor before? The incident of hadees e kisaa never happened where Allah said he has kept all types of impurities away from the ahlulbayt?? And said that they cannot ever commit a sin, let alone talk back to the Holy Prophet. Secondly i dont understand why u defend someone who has been a kafir for 40 years and only accepted islam out of fear of being killed. Then he angered the only remaining daughter of the Holy Prophet pbuh, burned her door, pushed it upon her, killed the Child in her womb (this is all in ur books btw) and she died angry with him and abu bakr I mean, seriously, to what level will u go to in defending him? As if speaking above the Messenger of Allah is not enough, let alone calling him delirious nauzobillah. U will even throw ur own prophet under the bus for defending a fallible human being?? Astaghfirullah To anyone reading this i advise u to plz watch the whole video of Dr Ammar and then decide which side u r on. MY PROPHET PBUH IS THE GREATEST AND MOST COMPLETE CREATION OF GOD, WHETHER IN SICKNESS OR IN HEALTH. WHETHER IN PAIN OR NOT. I HAVE BEEN TOLD TO OBEY HIM REGARDLESS OF HIS HEALTH CONDITIONS. THEN WHO THE HELL IS OMAR TO DECIDE WHAT HE SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO??!
Accepted islam out of fear of being smited, no authentic evidence. "Burned her door, pushed it upon her, ...", not authentic according to shia and sunni sources, sorry. Didn't say he specifically called him delerious in the source. The incident of the pen and paper was a mistake because Omar (RA) made a mistake in his opinion of thinking he (SAW) was too sick to do it and should wait until after but you will use this as evidence against Omar (RA) and disregard the same sources showing Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) praising him. He is not infallible though. "The Prophet said, "Among the nation of Bani Israel who lived before you, there were men who used to be inspired with guidance though they were not prophets, and if there is any of such persons amongst my followers, it is 'Umar."" - Sahih Bukhari And many others, but you will deny ofcourse. How much more can you lie about Omar Al Farooq (Allah be pleased with him). As for the other topics about Imama, you can watch Mohammed Hijab's londoniyya on Shiasm where he goes over Imama and the understandings and evidences and weak evidences used.
Ohh so sahih bukhari and muslim are not authentic sunni books?? Wonder why they are called sahih then Just answer me this: did omar know more than the Prophet pbuh?? Did he come with the book of Allah? Was he the messenger? If your Prophet pbuh is telling u to bring Him pbuh something, would you ever deny him? Was he asking for a knife?? No. Just a pen and paper. The thing is: sunnis have associated the hypocrite sahabas with their own identity. So questioning them is like questioning your whole life and everything u have believed uptil now. I get it. Its hard. But not if u love the truth. And actually want to seek out the true path. Please brush up on ur islamic history and then decide whats right and wrong. That alone will be enough for u
@@PsychedOutSoulDon't play sarcastic as you provided no evidence for the counterclaims I made, you said, "burned her (Fatima may Allah be pleased with her) door, pushed it upon her, and smited the baby"... Go ahead and show me this in the two sahih books please, if not please stay quiet because you are just parroting other shia people and doing blind following of your shia clerics without properly looking in. As for the issue pertaining to Omar Al-Farooq (may Allah be pleased with him), I told you that he made a mistake in his judgment in thinking it was a better decision to not happen as Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) was very sick. I also showed you the same source, sahih bukhari, showing Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praising Omar (RA) but I know you guys will reject that because you cherry pick. Again, on the issue of Imama please check out Mohammed Hijab as he addresses this on "londoniyya shiaism".
Allah would never choose a Prophet who always ran away from battles. Who used to drink even after islam (also in muslim and bukhari), who was kicked out by the Prophet on his deathbed, a whole ayah was revealed for him that do not raise ur voices above the voice of the Prophet pbuh bcz if u do that, every good deed u have ever done will become zero. (surah hujarat) Go and read ur tafaseer. That ayah is about omar and abu bakr. Apni books parhi nai hoteen aise hi behas karne aa jate hain And I'll say it again The incident of the door is mentioned in both ur books. Khud mehnat kar k Google karlo I'm not gonna spoonfeed u
@@PsychedOutSoul Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley. Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
Yeah , you can make excuses for satan also , he used to care so much about The God that he disobeyed Him by not following His instruction but eventually accepted to get out when he was asked to get out 😂
What about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) refused to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW) when it was commanded by RasulAllah (SAW), excuses, let's play your game of assuming the worst but I won't stoop that low. Excuses...
@@everythingandroidois we don't have any such narration mentioning Ali ( A.S) refused to erase any statement despite ordered by the Holly prophet. The sunni sources that mention this event are weak , unreliable and lack uniformity in details of the event You can search all those narrations if you want for yourself , for us , these sources are not reliable at all to make an opinion about those divinely guided people.
@@hammadhussain4422 its literally in our must authentic book Sahih al-Bukhari 3184 "By Allah I will never erase it" Dont lie on our Sources. Ali is not infallible.
Kazakhstan ? do u have wahabi in Kazakhstan as well? i heard Kazakhstan is a beautful country with sufi style mosque not wahabi like mosques? confused?
@10:10 honestly im starting to doubt you actually watched ammars full lecture. His claim wasn't that he couldn't deliver the message his claim was that he was being stopped from putting it writing and that despite years of delivering the message he wanted it in writing one final time so that you dont go astray. Sadly he was prevented and indeed we all went astray
Well maybe he wanted Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him's) name on their? It's just an endless circle and assumptions won't help just like my case here.
@@everythingandroidois that's fair brother. Maybe he did maybe he didn't although this wasn't the point. And I am not assuming that he was going to appoint Ali (3s) the point is that he was prevented from doing so
@@whereztheEvidence It isn't fair it is pathetic conjecture. There is overwhelming evidence RasoolAllah want Ali (as) to be his successor. There zero evidence for RasoolAllah wanting Abu Bakar to be his successor. They come out with he lead the salaah when he was ill but never should have been there if he had obeyed RasoolAllah. It is very clear what he wanted to write and Umar clearly knew what he was doing. There is a lot evidence for this all they give is pathetic excuse to Ghadir khum
@@Shia.Ahlulbayt while I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am giving the poor man the benefit of the doubt for the sake of argument. Afterall I am commenting to clarify Sayed Ammars point and position which is clearly being misinterpreted by creator of the video
@@whereztheEvidence Exactly that all they have to throw conjecture at it. It could mean this or that etc. That is all they have. That is why we shouldn't give inch to these disingenuous arguments. Look at the comments Farid fan club they were desperate for any kind of response. This feeble one from Farid they will still cheer on. I remember how bad his video on the battle of jamal was. He ended by saying it was like a dispute with your family. Normal families don't go to war and kill each other. That is how bad his arguments are. But they praised that video so much because they were desperate to make any excuse for the inexcusable. That is all he does
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley. Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
Convenient that you managed to clip out the part where Ammar questions "but Umar said" when this was a big question during this talk. In other words when the Rasul (s.a) speaks you comply. You don't "but"
He also conveniently clip out the part of his Syaikh Assim Al-Hakim literally explaining Umar prevented Prophet because he think the Prophet may say/write things that will hurt the Deen. Instead he keep yapping his own personal interpretation that Umar is just worried Prophet is too much in pain to say/write. One is Umar questioning the mental capability of Prophet, one is Umar questioning the physical capability of Prophet, BIG DIFFERENCE
you do realize he fainted afterwards?? imagine the prophet saw asking you to get some paper and he immeditely faints and you leave him and get some paper
The point remains, why didn't the Prophet (as) have it dictated at a later time, if it was so important. And why would he have to say it again if he already declared Ali (ra) the caliph. It's total speculation on the part of the Shia. Regarding Umar(ra), there is nothing in Umar's history (post reversion) and his time as Caliph that would make you suspect he had ulterior motives, yet the Shia want you to believe this. One of his most closest companions, fighting and defending the Prophet all his life, and as Caliph lived meagerly and spread Islam. I know it's hard to imagine saying 'but' to the Prophet, but these were his companions, they didn't always have to be formal with the Prophet(sa). Also, I don't see the problem with questioning the Prophets mental capabilities. There are many illnesses that can cause delirium, including pneumonia, which could have been what the Prophet (sa) was inflicted with before his death. Allah knows best. @@roffi_daijoubu
Farid rightly said that the hadith which Ammar quoted did not mention of Umar. But there is another hadith in Bukhari which clearly mentions Umar. 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.' But `Umar said, 'The Prophet is seriously ill, and we have got Allah's Book with us and that is sufficient for us. 'Sahih al-Bukhari 3053. In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 259
My friends usually discuss these topics and the shi3a mentioned this but the sunni claimed it was weak? Is there any information about the authenticity of this narration?
Umar believed the prophet was too ill to write at that point in time, I don't see any issue with that. You shias are forcing a maleficent intent when there is none. The prophet had multiple days after this to write or say what he wished, but chose not to, which goes to show that it was not needed in that time. Also Allah SWT said he has perfected the religion in the Quran, so there was nothing left to add after that point.
Once upon a time this shi3a guy I know informed me that in his final days the Prophet PBUH instructed to companions to go to war under the command of Usama but they refused. Any information on that?
Salam alaikum jameean. Plain and simple: Does the Hadith say the prophet asked for a pen and paper? Clearly it does. Did somebody say the prophet is Ill thereby stopping him from getting that paper? Clearly yes again. Did the prophet want the pen and paper? Yes? Did he get the pen and paper? No. Then clearly it means that the prophet was disobeyed. The Quran in 4:59 clearly states to obey Allah and his messenger. Whatever Omar’s intentions good or bad he clearly disobeyed the prophet it’s that simple.
Also do they really believe Allah wouldn’t allow this final thing he said he was providing so they don’t go astray that Allah would allow that to be something corrupted from Delirium The fact he was worried about what would happen to them and was offering a solution in writing so That it cannot be misconstrued shows he wasn’t delirious
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. If it was something important, the Prophet (saw) had enough time to say it. Also, Allah says in the Quran that in Surah Maeda (5) ayah 3 "...This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed my favour upon you...". This means Islam was perfect and complete when the Prophet (saw) died. If Shias say the Prophet didn't have a chance to deliver this information to us, that means they saying Islam wasn't perfect and complete which is against the ayah of the Quran
@@Harith112 Brother the point I’m making is that the prophet was disobeyed. The Shias and Sunnis can believe what they want clearly they each believe what they believe because they think it will take them closer to Allah so He can judge. The point is that the Quran clearly commands the believers to obey Allah and His prophet that means if the prophet says “dont move from this position on mountain” then you don’t move or if he says get me this pen and paper then you get him this pen and paper. The Hadith doesn’t say “don’t get me this pen and paper because I’m ill I can write what I want in a couple of days when I’m better” what it does say is get me this pen and paper so however you feel about Umar the point is he disobeyed Allah and his prophet-plain and simple.
Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me. Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100.
@@iMan-610 The point of my comment is that the prophet was disobeyed. If he clearly asks for a pen and paper to write something who is any person to deny him this? It is in a sahih book so clearly the incident happened and he clearly asked for a pen and paper and was disobeyed. The Quran is clear Obey Allah and His messenger. By not obeying him they are disobeying him are they not? Put it another way: if someone is said to be a rightly guided person doesn’t this rightly guided part mean that they obey Allah and his prophet? If they were to disobey Allah and his prophet would you say they are still rightly guided in disobeying the lord of all creation and his final and greatest prophet? It is very simple. He asked for a pen and a paper and it was denied him. God has commanded him to be obeyed if you don’t bring him that pen and paper then you have disobeyed a command of Allah to obey Him and His messenger. It doesn’t matter why Umar disobeyed him. The point is that he did disobey him. Plain and simple.
@@Johnny-xk7vwthe only thing getting smashed will "Sayed" Amar's head into the hellfire if he doesn't repent. How can someone even be a Shia man It makes no sense. You believe that the prophet SAW was exceedingly naive to the point where he constantly kept these so called munafiqeen around him and allowed them to maintain their status and power amongst the Muslims -- all while apparently marrying wicked women. You also have no choice but to believe in tahreef due to the way the Qur'an has been transmitted and preserved -- any excuse from you lot in this regard is sheer cope.
What knowledge let's just see how Farid made excuses for disobeying RasoolAllah. 3:45 doesn't mention Umar beat his sister, doesn't mention he beat her husband, doesn't mention he didn't risk his life when RasoolAllah was under boycott, doesn't mention sahih hadith Umar fled jihad, doesn't mention sahih hadith Umar hit his daughter, doesn't mention he beat Abu Bakr sister & other women mourn his death. Instead he claims someone fled jihad was so good. Whitewash everything to justify him disobeying RasoolAllah.
5:39 Farid dishonesty again when Umar said he wasn't dead it could have been for other reasons. That is no evidence to not believe RasoolAllah was on his, deathbed. There more references him saying he wouldn't live for long like his farewell sermon. Selective Farid manipulating the narrative. There is hadith where actually discuss it. It was common knowledge RasoolAllah was on his death bed.
5:54 making up fake analogy using a sheikh instead of RasoolAllah 🙄 No one was asking RasoolAllah to teach them! RasoolAllah order them to do an action he disobeyed. See how he manipulates his example
Because he cares about his well being. And so did Ali do when the prophet commanded him to erase "Prophet of God" from the treaty of Hudaybiyyah, Ali refused the prophet’s command and the prophet erased it himself.
To cover umar's bad intentions farid gave this hadith in respond to make umar look like he really cared: Sa'id bin Al-Musaiyab told me that 'Umar said, "By Allah, when I heard Abu Bakr reciting it, my legs could not support me and I fell down at the very moment of hearing him reciting it, declaring that the Prophet had died." This hadith has weak isnad, the chain is missing so it cannot be considered strong. Love playing back the chain of narrators game on you. Because thats what you do on some of your videos focusing of weak chains but you urself provide hadith with weak chain.
Haha some? He does that I ALL his refutations because he knows people don't know what he's talking about but then he uses hadiths that have weak narrators as well. Literally his only comeback because he knew he can get away with it
Bad argument. If that was the case then he wouldnt say "the quran is sufficient for us". He is straight denying the message the prophet was going to give.
Let us assume you are right, so what should we bring out of that? Are you implying that Allah willed the prophet to tell us something and Umar prevented it?
@bolaelegbede7843 I'm not implying. It's what actually happened. Is that so hard to grasp. He ask for a pen and paper to write something that we can never go astray. You know how valuable that information is. It's the difference of heaven and hell. If someone were to take away a trillion dollars and all the riches in the world away from you, will you be happy?
Farid, I am a Zaydi, not Sunni. You and I both know that you not even noting this act was the incorrect one is pure bias. It is impossible to say anything except this hadith is a grave mistake. May the peace, blessings, and mercy of Allah be upon Umar. No Muslim can affirm Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) was correct in his act without betraying his own intellect. I am not defending the Rafidhi, but this is the reality.
@@user-hq1uf7ud1fSheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) is one of the 10 promised paradise and paradise is not promised to those who fell into apostasy, so take heed.
The purpose of the video wasn't to discuss whether Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, made the best or correct decision in that moment. It was to address the claims and extrapolations that Nakshawani made from the event in question. Farid never "affirmed [he] was correct in his act". No Sunni denies that companions are capable of making mistakes, so proving or conceding that a specific companion made a specific mistake isn't the item in question. That would be shifting the goal post. The question is about the exact implications and ramifications of this specific act, and that's what Farid was discussing and challenging.
@@Suleiman212How shall I put this brother... I disagree with the Rafidhi as apparently his point was that Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) is not a reliable narrator, and he is. To reject a narration because Umar is in the chain is irrational. Even Zaydis who are harsher than me in narrations from certain people do not oppose Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) as a narrator, that I have read. So in this sense I agree with Farid. At the same time this horrific event is of high significance to the shi`a. The General Muslim Community, due to their desire to not say anything which could have bad implications on the Sahaba (Radi Allahu Anhuma,) peculiarly assert that what was going to be written may not have been what the ummah was to do, after our Prophet (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) left us. To the rational intellect, given that the theology and law of the religion had already been completed prior to this, it is clear to me that our Prophet (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) desired to save us from this fitnah we fell into, where the ummah could not agree on a Caliph at first, etc. Without even the slightest doubt the line which deserves the title of horrifying is that The Book of Allah is enough. Without doubt, as someone who identifies yourself as "Sunni," you must object to this statement, as the Book of Alllah itself instructs us to turn to the words of The Messenger of Allah (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) for guidance, so the idea that The Book of Allah could suffice us *without* the Sunnah is rejected. Shi`a feel that this day we were deprived of yet another affirmation of a crucial element of the Sunnah: The Imamate of Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib. I mention all of this only to clarify why I originally called this video bias... reading such an error out loud, without mentioning the error of it, is a strange thing. Certainly if Farid had read a Quranist saying similar, that the Quran is enough, he would refute it, but here there is someone he heavily respects, so we have silence...
He’s not saying it’s correct or incorrect. He’s simply explaining possible reasons why Umar RA did not provide the pen. Nakhshwani and Farid are looking at the same Hadith and extrapolate from it. Nakhshwani extrapolates maliciously and Farid extrapolates positively, citing Umar RA’s early contributions towards Islam.
Always, the truth hurts, I am sunni but What sayed Ammar is exposing everything is in our books 📚; Alhamndulillah;tried to buy all theses books to teach my self and I am still asking why our sheikh don't tell us the truth?😢😢😢
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley. Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
There are quite some concerns here, one the prophet pbuh was unlettered so how could he write, and let's say he did say something to that effect. It would be just another hadith so there would be variations in it, disputed upon, difference of opinion etc etc. It would not weigh against even a single quranic verse. Thirdy, he could've said anything, infinite number of possibilities but it's always , we know what he wanted to say. Pray tell how do you guys know that.
Narrated by Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her): "When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in his last illness, he asked for a sheet (to cover his body), and he wore it as a garment; then he fainted and, when he recovered consciousness, he asked for a pen and a paper and wrote, 'Write: No one has the right to be worshipped but Allah; and Muhammad is His Messenger.' " (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 64, Hadith 468
Whoever calls a man ‘kafir’ [disbeliever] or said ‘O, enemy of Allah’, when he is not one, (the accusation) will rebound to him” (narrated by Al-Bukhari and Muslim). Read your kalma again brother don’t make such accusations lightly. Fear Allah
@@Ishi1XP indeed, and Ammar is indeed the enemy, I understand it may hurt you and others, but once you realize that shiism is not from Allah, you will understand why I said what I said
According to Quran 53:3 the Prophet does not speak from his own inclination but speaks what Allah tells him. Why would Allah tell Prophet to write the will if he was too seriously ill? Does Umar know more about Prophet’s condition than Umar? Him asking to write the will down is what Allah has told him to do and Umar denied him that and disobeyed the Prophet.
Bro you are hilarious. At 5 mins in, the holy prophet tells you to get a pen and a paper for which you will never go astray and you still stick up for umar in this case saying he was in a good position to do so. Then why oh farid did rasulAllah sawas kick them out? Why was there a bust up in there? Tell me you don't know the aya that whatever rasulAllah sawas tells you it is from Allah swt? You don't know this oh farid? Oh farid you compare rasulAllah sawas who receives wahi and everything he tells you is from Allah swt, you compare this to your local sheikh if he was sick and you dont trouble him with a hadith?? Its not like the sahabis told.the holy Prophet tell us a hadith. It was RasulAllah sawas who said I will write something for you.that you wont go astray. Now dear farid you are running like usayn bolt you have all these hadiths in their multitudes that it was umar who stopped the prophet from writing this.formula but now you say it wasnt umar who called the prophet dilarious? Be honeat to yourself and your subscribers and be just coz you will be held accountable. The man provided you source after source from your own books that clearly umar wanted to stop the prophet otherwise there wouldnt have been a fight. Im intrigued why you only do an extremly short reaction. I mean ammar nakshawani provides many many sources and you skip a whole heap. Of course its clear why.
The prophet SAW is still a human being, and as Farid showed before this event he was in extremely bad health (constantly passing out, not being able to pray in congregation and we know how important praying in congregation was for him SAW, if he couldn't do that, than that shows the intense state he was in). For any loved one, if you see them in such a state you want to them rest as much as possible. Umar RA did not say we don't need it explicitly, he said "the prophet of Allah SAW has been overcome with pain", that's his excuse for not listening to the prophet in this particular scenario, and if he had indeed made a mistake and this paper was in fact something needed in Islam, Allah SWT would not have said your religion has been perfected in Quran 5:3, hence why Umar RA said that the Quran is enough for us here, as it has been completed, nonetheless the prophet SAW had multiple days after this event to write this down and or say it, which he did not, again pointing to the fact that it was simply something that he thought would be a good idea at that time but later decided it wasn't.
@@mohammadrizwaan1890 Now what you are implying is that Umar knows the health of the prophet PBUH more than he himself (The greatest creation of Allah SWT since the beginning of time) that he can stop the prophet from doing something he decided? Also we all know the actions of the prophet PBUH are dictated by Allah the almighty, and the prophet PBUH decided to write something and later felt it wasn't necessary?
@@muhammadtasiu5473prophet muhammad at the end was but a man. It says that in quran and hadeeth of the prophet himself. Surah abas is allahs reprimend for the prophet frowning on a poor blind sahabi. It tells you even nabi saw was a human at the end of the day and succeptible to mistake (not sin or insincerity) ali r.a also denied the prophets command when he refused to alter the contract between the quraysh and nabi saw.
@@muhammadtasiu5473 Everyone who loves anyone and sees them in bad health generally tries to make decisions for them as though said person isn't as a tuned to their own health. It is not hard to see that. You shiites just like to dramatize and twist things to fit your own agendas.
I also have some doubts in this Hadith since "prophet could not write", the hadith says "I (Rasool Allah) will write for you a statement" and this is a well documented history. Another doubt with this Hadith is that Prophet said people to go away so who would a scribe be documenting the statement if Prophet did not want anyone near him ? if the Prophet wanted someone to write for him then he would have said it verbally.
@@FaridResponds Thank you Farid for clarification but I also had a comment earlier that when prophet ordered everyone to leave was Ali (r.a) also included in everyone ?
@@singalongme1 : Think about it: If a king said “I will build you a bridge to cross this river” does he mean that he’ll build it himself, or that he’ll order it to be built? See? It’s not that hard. 😉👍
Salam alaykum, I am genuinely curious. Can anyone explain Ghadir Khumm and this: "Hadith al-Thaqalayn we see that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is reported to have said, "I am leaving among you two weighty things (thaqalayn), and if you adhere to both of them, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahl al-Bayt."" Apparently this is also in Bukhari and Tirmidhi? I am uneducated so I was hoping someone could explain this. Jazakallah khair
Wa aleikoum Salam dear brother. Firstly, the prophet (saww) was going to Mecca with thousands of muslims, but he then arrived to a place called Khumm. God later on revealed a verse saying: O Apostle! Deliver what has been sent down to you from your Lord; and if you don't do it, you have not delivered His message (at all); and Allah will protect you from the people. “ This verse means that god wanted the prophet to deliver a message to his people. Later, prophet Muhammad (saww) says to his people: “ It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere to them both, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)." which is the Hadith Al-Thaqalayn. The prophet told us to follow the Quran and the people of his household. Without them, Islam would not be complete. But then, the prophet (saww) says: “Do I not have more right over the believers than what they have over themselves?" His people replied with: “ Yes, O’ Messenger Of God. “ The prophet would then, held up Ali (as)’s hand and say: For whoever I am his Leader, 'Ali is his Leader. O' God, love those who love him, and be hostile to those who are hostile to him." which clearly shows that imam Ali (as) was chosen by god. But god would reveal another verse, saying: “Today I have perfected your religion and completed my favour upon you, and I was satisfied that Islam be your religion." (Qur'an 5:3) May Allah give you knowledge and guide you. Wasalam aleikoum.
@@mohajsart123 so ali disobeyed the prophet and allah by giving bayah to abu bakr. later ali planned the death of uthman and took the caliphate. muwaiyah avenged them
@@soheil527 he didn’t disobeyed the prophet (saww). You taught Ali (as) could kill everyone to become caliph? If he fought for his stand, Islam would have ended centuries ago. Their would have been a HUGE war between the muslims. In fact, there was an election between the Muslim community. They all chose abu bakr instead of Ali (as). Then abu bakr appointed omar instead of Ali and finally, Othman was elected by the muslims. But saying that imam Ali planned the death of uthman and took his role as caliph is wild. You clearly don’t research. Uthman was assassinated by a kharijite. In your logic, if Ali (as) took uthman’s place then why didn’t he do it to abu bakr or umar? You don’t have a point. Uthman ruled for 12 years, literally more than a decade. While imam Ali (as) ruled for 4 years. So your point saying that Ali took over uthman’s caliphate is not logic. In your logic, why didn’t he do it years ago? If Ali (as) had killed the three first caliphs, Islam would be gone. Stop spreading lies on ahlulbayt. This person was asking for knowledge and you are saying lies to make him believe you. Research before saying anything false. May Allah guide you.
@@mohajsart123 he took using force. ali was never elected or liked by a lot of muslims then. there is not a single evidence that ali was elected as caliph his leadership skills were clearly lacking. he didnt do anything in his 4 years , ummayads did all the fighting and winning in wars. hashmi sat at home and plotted with ali
Umer always questioned and doubted prophethood , also Allah said in quran obery the messenger , who is umer to make decision what to follow and when to follow, plus this sugar coating technique is not going to save umer , he said quran is enough , he did not say oh Prpphet please write it later and take some rest , the fact that he said quran is enough was a desperate move from him, he knew very well that prophet was about to state the leader alongside the quran in writing The will would have finished his conspiracy and plot
Jazakallah Khair FARID BHAI Here , Ex muslims of INDIA were also quoting that hadith with their stupid claim that prophet was dictated by UMAR RA (Astagfirullah) aur prophet feared him
Assalamualaikum farid, lately I have a problem with myself and I always think and ask something that and this is like a thought and also myself is worried and confused with the surroundings and asking something that is chaotic as if it is not calm like confused with the law, nature , shape. and god and other laws including life!! can you explain to me about my problem? greetings from Malaysia ☪️🇲🇾❤️😇
Please talk to someone that specializes in OCD therapy. From reading your comment I believe it is OCD, which can be a dehabilitating condition. If no one in Malaysia specializes in it there are videos on youtube that you can start with until you find someone. In Arabic the condition is known as وسواس قهري
Something I realised is the Sunni hadith will expose the sahaba themselves committing atrocities against the Prophet and Allah swt and you will still make excuses. Even on occasion you will belittle the Prophet to justify their actions. Wake up my brothers, your own books expose your sahaba.
So what he wanted to write wasn’t wahy? So it wasn’t direct revelation and the prophet ﷺ didn’t withhold stuff from the ummah. Ali Ra was one of the prophet ﷺ personal scribes, why didn’t he bring the writing material then? Why did Ali Ra “go against” the prophet ﷺ at the treaty of hudaibiyah when he didn’t listen to what he ﷺ had requested from him.
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. If it was something important, the Prophet (saw) had enough time to say it. Also, Allah says in the Quran that in Surah Maeda (5) ayah 3 "...This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed my favour upon you...". This means Islam was perfect and complete when the Prophet (saw) died. If Shias say the Prophet didn't have a chance to deliver this information to us, that means they saying Islam wasn't perfect and complete which is again the ayah of the Quran. Its also dangerous to have this belief because its saying Allah and his Prophet (saw) didn't complete Islam when the Prophet (saw) passed away
@AhmadFakih123 Omar (ra) probably made a mistake. Maybe Allah has forgiven already. Still this incident is not proof for your beliefs because of what I mentioned before. Also, there are many ayats in the Quran that praise the sahabas. You should just keep going against the Quran by saying bad things about sahabas when Allah praised them like this: "And the first to embrace Islam of the Muhajirun (those who migrated from Makkah to Al-Madinah) and the Ansar (the citizens of Al-Madinah who helped and gave aid to the Muhajirun) and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allah is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success." Allah (swt) knows the future. He wouldn't have praised them like if He knew the majority of sahabas were going to go against Islam after the Prophet (saw) passes away.
@@AhmadFakih123ali Ra disobeyed the prophet ﷺ at the writing of the treaty of hudaibiya. What do you have to say for that? Did he know better than the prophet ﷺ when he didn’t comply with the command that was given to him ?
@@AhmadFakih123 Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me. Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100
So you want a response video that already conveniently clips out parts he can't refute, to clip out all parts? At that point it's not a response video anymore, brow will just be yapping into the void😂
@@roffi_daijoubu I’m from ultra liberal England, they’re everywhere here and this guy would definitely be knocking about with them, he’s as queer as the day.
I usually don't message or comment/respond to any videos but I am glad Br Farid that you managed to see and respond the videos. I don't know why in Ramadan Ammar wants to discuss of sunni/shia conflict when he never faced Br Asrar and then on a show contradicted his own words.
He answered EVERYTHING and will continue just make sure ur strapped in it’s gonna be a hell of a ride! He has been called out directly MANY MANY times. There doesn’t need to be any direct calling anyways, you point a finger at one you’ve pointed it all jus as we Muslims feel when we’re targeted by non Muslims.
@@user-gb7uo6cc7k he answered nothing with any credible source. Just his own opinion. Farid should stick to eating mint chocolate and put some weight on instead of pretending to be a man of wisdom
everyone one makes mistakes, nashwani addresses mufti menk, zakir naik, Assim al hakeem & M hijab as sunnis, it is s amistake while ther are super wahabis , i dont know about farid guy, but if he does not celebrate mawlid, 27 rajab & 15 shaban which i believe, then he is also wahabi. also The objective of farid video was to address envy and hatred against nakhswani , yet it lacks authentic evidence, relying solely on personal opinions. and attacks, nakshwani is not saying do mutas and not pray tarawee, it is fact from sunii sources the muta was allowed in islam, Prophet wives hafa and aisha was critisiced in quran, umar did so manty things wrong and look like h did not care about the Prophet PBUH, i even read he wanted to kill the Prophet PBUH which nakshwani didnot say. the Q is iff faird guy thinks umar was a nice guy and will be first to go to jannah even before prophet, because this is what is actually saying, i think it is a bold think to say. Think and decide !!!!! . After conducting critical and rational analysis alongside research, it is evident that Umar displayed traits of being shady and emotional, merely paying lip service to Islam without progressing beyond stage one, a facet often overlooked. meaning he was not a momin, left alone sideem, arif, alwaiya while on the other side Imam Ali was arif, awiliya, siddiqeen and sabirren, being a sufi, this is my conlusion which no one talking about yet. Think and decide !!!!! @@user-gb7uo6cc7k
@@syed2194I haven’t finished watching Farid’s video yet but I have to comment on this. If you saw Ammar’s video he’s using sahih Hadith such as Muslim and Bukhari. So how exactly is it an opinion when he’s using facts from Sunni literature. What he speaks of isn’t ambiguous either it is very clear cut and easy to understand.
@@ShipMyPantsYeah, using Sunni Ahadith to fit in his own narrative. Farid is just putting some logical context. That‘s what he did in the previous refutation. I haven‘t watched this yet, but I‘m sure it will go the same way as the last one.
@@ShipMyPantscan u guys do anything other than lying and manipulating our narrative of wht they dont say ? And accusing of the prophet and his companies of severe accusations??
never heard this guy, if farid organic wahabi means follow M wahab or taymiah whabai and if make mawlid? cox i think farid is a khwariji the way he talks?
somrtimes a person is heart inside and jujust coz u cannot ansnwer, there is a easy way out. I saw this guy farid who is answering ammar, i wanted to know his madhab, aeeqdah so i can get to the bottom of it, nakhwani address all of them sunni, nakhwani is wrong, coz mufti menk is awahabi, hakeen sound like khwariji so i wanted to know if farid is a wahabi or jhwaiji menaing his view on mawlid, and miraj??@@OnePullUpKing
if farid can defend umar and abu bakr, it means he will be resurrected with abu bakr and umar, wow ..... think and reflect all. does farid also like miuawia and yazid? this changes everything, is farid organic wahabi (taymiah) or khwariji (reject ali and uthman khaifat)? think and decide?
Let me fix it even more... "Sayyed Ammar points out a mistake of fallible Omar (RA) on his refusal to get pen and paper due to his opinion of the Prophet's (SAW) severe sickness but forgets fallible Ali (RA) also made a mistake like any human when refusing to erase name of RasulAllah (SAW) when commanded to by him (SAW) because of his (Ali RA) incorrect opinion in the matter" "Sayyed Ammar quotes a bunch of people and makes it seem like the one Sahaba he has a grudge against called him (SAW) delarious"
@@everythingandroidois first off, nice whataboutism that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Second, there's a difference between saying straight up no to the Prophet and calling him delirious, and asking to be excused from doing something out of respect from him. Nice try though.
@@africa241See I suspected this is how you would respond, and I was right; the text does not say Omar (RA) called him (SAW) delirious. Omar (RA) never said "no", the same way Ali (RA) never said "no". They both, may Allah be pleased with both, responded in unique ways with reasons, one being saying the prophet (SAW) is severely sick and the other swearing to never erase it. So apparently now there is room for disobedience of RasulAllah (SAW) if it fits your narrative🤔, strange. I see shias saying the disobedience is everything, but clearly they are playing games. According to you, "asking to be excused" is swearing to never do something in front of the person who commanded it being RasulAllah (SAW). Ofcourse we understand why he (RA) did, so we excuse him for his mistake. But you can keep coping.
@@everythingandroidois yOu CaN kEeP cOpInG Bro, you're the one seething so hard you're changing the words of YOUR OWN books because you can't accept having believed a lie your entire life. You may need to argue about this to protect your brainwashed programming, but I don't. I'm too chill and at peace with my beliefs for that. So I'm off to cOpE about the whole thing now :)
@@africa241the fact you didn't respond to my rebuttals and just focused in on me telling you to cope and went on a rant about that and me "changing words" when I clearly gave my argument that it did not say "Omar said" but you ignored that because you got triggered shows me you are not sincere in this conversation.
One of the most famous atsar was when Umar refused to believe that Rasulullah has died and even threaten everyone from speaking so until Abu Bakr recited one ayah (Ali Imran : 144) to him and he accepted it. In some narration it was mentioned that after hearing that ayah, Umar fell to the ground.
@@thelion2087 Umar never ran, but you know who did? your 12th Imam. Bro has been running for 1200+ years, scared and quivering in his little cave. Deliver this message from me, and tell him that the Abbasids are gone, so he can touch grass once more.
That is such a weak response. If the prophet asks for a pen and paper stating the importance of this, you will obviously do it. Whenever the prophet speaks, it is from allah and their is no suggestion of "let's wait until he is better" In some literature, he even says the proper has gone "Crazy". Umar has disrespected the prophet many times and introduced multiple innovations.
Text does not say Umar says he (SAW) is delarious. That is false. What about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) refused to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW) when it was commanded by RasulAllah (SAW), excuses, let's play your game of assuming the worst but I won't stoop that low.
@@everythingandroidois i am not sure what contradiction you have on imam Ali, can you expand ? No one ever called him rasul allah. He was the rightly chosen khalifa during ghadir khum by our Prophet (SAW) which can not be disputed. Many Hadith’s in your sunni literature point the prophet leaving behind the book of allah and his ahulbayt. Not Abu Bakr and Umar who went against the prophets will. Lets not even go to Umar bringing wood to burn the house of the prophets (SAW) beloved daughter Fatimah El Zahra
@@everythingandroidoisand do you know the response Imam Ali gab the prophet and do you know what the Prophet said after and did it cause the companions to fight and get angry did it cause the Prophet to say remove yourselves from me well Gies what it didn’t so I want you trying to prove here
@@everythingandroidoisDid Imam Ali (a.s) prevent Rasool ULLAH (s) from erasing the title?? Your argument is weak and baseless. In the incident of Pen and Paper.. Prophet (s) was prevented from writing some important message which would have saved Ummah from misguidance.
Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me. Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100.
I am Shia, thank you Farid for creating this video, it just shows how you don’t have an actual defense ما آتاكم الرسول فخذوه Whatsoever the prophet gives you, you should take it Also ولا تقدموا بين يدي الله ورسوله No one is allowed to have oppose the suggestion of the prophet Keep providing such videos
5:49 comparing a sheikh to the greatest creation of Allah that is infallible and only speaks in wahi 53:4 is wild to me . They’ll do anything to protect umar ….
Wallahi this Hadith was a turning point for me. I was brought up into a Sunni household (Deoband school). After I read this Hadith in front of my own eyes from Bukhari (I still remember it vividly. It was Ramadan and I went to pray taraweeh at Shah Faisal Mosque back then in Islamabad, Pakistan. Went to the library and read that with my own eyes). From that day onward I am a proud follower of Ahlulbayt school of thought. Your arguments or repose to Ammar didn’t make any sense. The bottom line is that The last prophet of Allah (which do not speak form his own whims and desires, rather whatever the prophet says is from Allah) he was disobeyed. Umar Ibn Khattab et al., did not let prophet put his will to writing so ummah doesn’t go astray. And indeed, from that day onward, Muslims have strayed. What an unfortunate event, Ibn abbas says and cried while narrating this. That messenger of Allah was prevented from writing his will! Alas.
Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
@@aksjcre8 Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley. Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
May. Allah SWT bless Farid. Without his help and Allah's guidance so many would have been lost. Alhamdulillah i had a few doubts regarding the hadith and the other statements of Ammar but Farid answered them all in other videos swell. Never stop doing this Farid and may Allah reward you the highest rank in Jannah and bless all you family.
@@abhmd4481 What a stupid counter argument. If anything, it goes to show how incredible Ali’s character is to not speak or take action unless the prophet of Allah permits him to. If Omar wasn’t a Kafir before that action he certainly was afterwards.
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. Why didn't the Prophet (saw) mention this important thing in the 3 days he was alive? I'm Sunni and I believe Umar (ra) made a mistake on the pen and paper incident. But I believe he had good intentions. Obviously Shias believe he had bad intentions
@@Harith112 so that today, people like you and I can use all this information 1400 years later to see the difference between Haq and Batil. I’m not going to generalize Sunnis as a whole but I think we can establish that when the prophet does or says anything it is all by the order of ALLAH. Disobeying the prophet is KUFR. Especially when the matter is so severe and regarding something that will help us “never go astray.” The truth is prevalent within your own books and you still make excuses. I pray for you on the day of judgement if you choose to ignore these matters, may Allah guide you and the rest who seek truth.
@@Harith112Even after a clear hadees from your books you are using your nonsense mind Because you don't want to say Umar wrong even if Prophet s.a.w said so
@@altamashbaibars9477 Why should he note anything if people like Umar are ready to refuse the order of Prophet Muhmmad SAW in the first place. He is not obliged to do things a second time if his orders are rejected the first time.
@@gr3en_jamfatima295 those who wanted him to write it also defied him by not giving pen and paper. It was a spontaneous decision prophet that would have noted it . He lived 3 more days.
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
@@samy7013 so instead of condemning Umars actions you want to not only throw our Prophet SAW under the bus by saying hes delerious but you Also want to drag Imam Ali (as) into the mess of what Umar created. The biggest proof for us is that already there were followers of Umar and another group agreed to bring a pen and paper, then according to the hadith the two groups started to quarrel. Then the Prophet SAW didn't thank Umar for anything he made Everyone leave! EVERYONE. So it does not matter What Imam Alis actions are next, he is obedient enough to listen to our Prophet Muhammad SAW. Since you want to talk about Ali (as) why not talk about Umar? All Umar could've litterally done was grab a pen and paper, but he had the audacity to tell the very man who brought the Quran In the first place that: "Quran is suffienct for us, you are ill." Don't scramble after what could've happened next. focus on the hadith.
I born and raise in a Sunni family in Bangladesh. We all are in historical trap. We never take other opinion when it goes against us. We set in our mind that we can not say anything about UMAR, BAKR , OSMAN. My whole life practice was wrong, my family`s whole life practice was wrong. Now, what the things that prevent me to accept the truth. I know it`s ego. But definitely accepting truth is better than hellfire. Imagine you are respecting someone who is definitely goes to hellfire and you are following his malpractice in Islam. Unfortunately 90% Muslim are same like me.
Another confusing video. You don't open a single book to defend the claims. Only what you think happened. I wonder why do people only mention Aisha and not khadija
Asalamu Alykum brothers. I just have a question. To my knowledge, the prophet was illiterate for his entire life. Did he learn to write at some point, or is the text referring to something else? I know that's besides the point, but this is new to me. Jazakumallah khair
@@FaridRespondsThese are the exact words "Bring me a writing material so that I may write for you a document after which you will not go astray." Why you adding words on your own like the Scholars of Jews and Christians in order to lead people astray? The word "Ummi" used for the Prophet means "Unschooled (taught by nobody) " not illiterate, since nobody was of that stature to teach the Prophet except Allah, he could both read as well as write.
We believe at every junction of the prophet’s (saws) mission Ali (as) was there ,. And he glorified him,. And made an allusion that he was the successor,. Starting with when he was mocked by his own family,. In the beginning of his mission,.
I get so excited every time Farid uploads Tabarkallah! You have greatly helped and educated me, Jazakallah Khair. Side note: I absolutely hate how the Shia dude speaks, makes me cringe really hard 😭 Edit: Looks like all of these Shias took a huge dose of copium at Suhoor 🤣🤣🤣
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem, I am a Muslim, and I follow Islam, and in the name of All mighty allah i declare that I am not shia, not sunni, not salafi, not kadiani, but I am Muslim. --------------------------------------------------- Who was he to decide that the Holy Prophet (SAW) is not capable of giving orders? Did he think that All mighty Allah was not with him at that time? Did you think that???? Omar bin Khattab, on the other hand, was able to form a Shura committee to elect next Khalifa on his deathbed with serious injury, He was truly a mentally and physically super super super super strong person And according to your eye, of course Omar bin Khattab mentally and physically super super super super stronger person then the Holy Prophet (SAW), wasn't he??? May All mighty Allah protect me/us form Satan, Amin.
It was narrated from Ibn Mas’ud (radiyallahu ‘anhu) that Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “If my Companions [Sahabah] are mentioned, then keep quiet, if the stars are mentioned [horoscopes/fortune telling], then keep quiet and if the divine decree [taqdir] is mentioned, then keep quiet.” Leave fitnah and worry about yourself, Umar Ibn Khattab may Allah be pleased with him is one of the people mentioned by name of being the people of Jannah so focus on yourself and leave this fitnah of the shia and their false belief. The prophet peace be upon him loved Abu Bakr, Umar, Ali and Uthman dearly. We who come 1400+ years after should not be speculating on the intentions of pious companions of the prophet peace be upon him, they did what they thought was best for the prophet peace be upon him and not for power and it shows in their character and actions throughout their rulership. "One day Umar (radiallahu anhu) saw a camel that was clearly either exhausted or ill. Umar approached the camel and inspected it, hoping to find out what was wrong with it. And as he looked closely at the camel, he continued to say, 'I am afraid that I will be questioned about you [on the day of resurrection]. At-Tabaqaat (3/215). " may Allah guide us and protect us from the lies of the shayateen and the people of deviance.
@@Umar2O00 What happened on the deathbed of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and after his death is the most important test for the Muslims of that time and for me/us. In the name of Almighty Allah, I declare that I follow the teachings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and not Umar (RA) or his followers. I seek refuge with Almighty Allah from the evil and harm of the person/persons who compare Umar (RA) with the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). The enemies (and their followers of present time) of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his beloved family are cursed for eternity, they are the worst, most hated, cursed people in this world. May Almighty Allah protect me/us from Satan, Ameen.
@@advocatemohammadamjadhossa4151tell me you're a shi`i without telling me you're a shi`i May Allaah guide you and snap you out of this slanderous talk. No Muslim in history would speak ill of the companions in this manner.
@@muxishine So, You are telling that the person who follows The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is Shia??? Are you comparing Omar (RA) with The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)????? Do you disagree that the enemy of The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is cursed forever????? For you, In the name of All mighty Allah I declare that I am a Muslim, and I am not Shia, not sunni, not salafi, not kadiani, not nokshabondi, not sufi, not muzaddidi, not ahale hadith, etc. but Only a Muslim, and I only follow the last Massager of Allah our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem. Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, The Sovereign of mankind. The God of mankind, From the evil of the retreating whisperer - Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind - From among the jinn and mankind." Amin.
@@advocatemohammadamjadhossa4151 from what you've said already, it's clear that you're a deviant who has gone against over 1,400 years of scholarship. Simple. You're going against authentic hadith. The Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam guaranteed jannah to `Umar, and he said if there was to be a prophet after him it'd be `Umar, and said that when `Umar walks a path, the shaytaan goes another. But you're saying he was an enemy to the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam. May Allaah guide you and all those like you.
I grew up in a Shia family...and I was never interested in Islam. When I was young up until my mid 20s...that's all I knew...Shiaism. The month of crying...all the hatred for someone 1400 years ago (at the time I didn't know who these people were). All this crying and hatred didn't appeal to me at all. Later in my life I discovered the true Islam...the Islam that is growing incredibly fast. Alhamdulillah.
If he asks for a pen , simple give him , but umar dint give him , the reality is because he was affraid prophet will write Ali's name as his successor stop giving illogical excuses.
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
The Hadith of Raziyyat al-Khamees is actually a proof of Sayyidna Umar’s (RAA) virtue, and in the hadith there is proof that Rasool Allah Muhammad ﷺ agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and Sayyidna Ali (RAA) did not disagree with Sayyidna Umar (RAA) either. The proof is that Rasool Allah ﷺ was promised protection by Allah in all matters relating to relaying the Prophetic message, yet he chose to abstain from writing or relaying anything verbally, other than giving a minor rebuke to the Companions for their breach of protocol in arguing in front of the Prophet ﷺ. (A breach that they can be forgiven for under the circumstances, since none had been in that situation before, with a beloved Prophet experiencing intense pains of a final illness.) So the Prophet ﷺ delivered a rebuke for a minor breach, yet are we supposed to believe that he’d exert the effort to do that, but ignore a bigger breach and let that go without rebuke? As for Sayyidna Ali (RAA), if he thought that the right thing to do was to bring pen and parchment (he was one of the Prophet’s ﷺ scribes), no one on this earth would have been able to stop him from bringing it. And finally, Rasool Allah ﷺ must have agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), once he heard the latter say those magnificent words of his about the Noble Qur'an being our guide. Why? because Rasool Allah ﷺ did not contradict or correct him, and even dismissed everyone from his presence, now that he knew that at least Sayyidna Umar (RAA) was on the correct path, and could help guide the rest of the Ummah. Plus, we already know that Rasool Allah's "ismaat al-tabligh" rendered it absolutely impossible for anyone on Earth to prevent him from relaying the message. And finally, we know that Rasool Allah ﷺ only passed away several days later, and relayed multiple instructions to be carried out after his death, and never bothered to revisit this issue, since it was already apparent that there was no need for it.
If the Prophets asks for pen and paper, you bring pen and paper simple.
So if the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) asks for title to be erased by Ali (may Allah be pleased with him), this makes that person a deviant Sahaba? Ofcourse not, it's a mistake out of wrong opinion, Omar (may Allah be pleased with him) was referring to RasulAllah (SAW)'s severe sickness and this was his reasoning and wrong opinion, which is a mistake just like the former.
@@everythingandroidoishow are these two things even related? One is a gesture out of respect for Prophet's name, other is pure disrespect.
The Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, was on his deathbed and was very stressed, and Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, may God be pleased with him, wanted him to rest.
And when Prophet PBUH commands the people not to curse his Sahabah, you obey. And when Allah SWT commands you to only worship and call on him alone, you obey.
@@-------....___ we curse only the zalimoon, worship only Allah.
Thank you Farid for this video - your arguments made me even more firm on the teachings of Ahlulbayt. Al hamdoulillah for the path of Ahlulbayt (as)
Right? No sources, all excuses and speculation. The more I watch these types of videos trying to counter the teachings of Shiasm, the stronger my faith in it becomes.
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He doesn't have to provide sources since the source you use backfires at you.
Ali didn't bring the pen and paper, Ali disobeyed the prophet, Ali isn't infallible, Shiism is false.
Replace Ali(as) with Umar (LA) in your sentences. Disrespected gods greatest creation in the Prophet pbuh and attempted an assassination and you worship him and his daughter more than Allah and Muhammad astaghfurallah. Subhan Allah you have the protectors of umayads who killed the prophets bloodline and the protectors of the prophet and his family. Fear god.
@@abhmd4481 🤣🤣🤣 you make such a coherent and intelligent argument. Cannot stop laughing 😆 🤪
Ali slept in Prophets bed when Prophet made the Hijra to protect the Faith while Umar fled from the wars, WHY? Explanation will be appreciated for your argument @@abhmd4481
So the Prophet a literal messenger of Allah alive in front of you asks for a pen and paper to write something that WILL NOT LEAD YOU ASTRAY. Yet you call him seriously ill and say the quran is enough. There is no excuse for that. Why would you ever reject something this important especially before the death of Rasool Allah
Ali Ra was one of them
Why would the man RA who fought in the name of Allah and His Prophet SAWW, who gave his daughter to Rasullullah SAWW, who killed his own family members for oppressing his Islamic coreligionists, who would follow The Prophet SAWW's teachings even if they sometimes didn't make sense to him, who rejected his(SAWW) death, even threatening people's lives for acknowledging his death before Abu Bakr RA consoled him, do so for anything other than a fear for the Prophet's SAWW health while he was seriously ill and they hoped against hope that he would get better?
What if he believed that he(SAWW) would be able to give such a message at a better time?
Is it kufr to have concern for the Messenger SAWW and hope for a better time for the message?
@@ibrahimihsan2090 he wanted to usurper the caliphate, for himself and his friend. This event clearly showed his intention.
what do you mean say the message at another time, in gahdeer the prophet said i am leaving this world so how else can he give the message, he would simply if omar would just shut up for a sec and do something like smack abu huraira or question the prophet then questioning abu bakr the prophet would have easily given by a pen paper and not only that THEY ANGERED THE PROPHET AND TOLD THEM GET UP AND LEAVE. its like the prophet smiled when he said that.@@ibrahimihsan2090
@@Ishi1XP No it doesn't.
Is this really what you Shi'ites are taught?
I understand that the words of a prophet are very important but we have to consider that he(SAWW) was human and that people would worry about his health at the time. We have little reason to believe they thought he was about to die(in fact, he may have died a few days later) so it is easy to argue that Umar RA was simply concerned for his health and hoped the Prophet SAWW would give his message at a later time.
Also, can you curb your conspiracy theories and at the very least acknowledge that when it comes to this Sunni hadith, the Prophet SAWW wasn't talking about succession but about certain Islamic rulings, most of which he eventually got the chance to inform them about?
Points to refute in summary:
Is it Ammar's words or Sahih hadeeth?
Is the Qur'an truly enough for us?When it comes to ibadat atleast?
Are hadeeth compilers wrong then?
Would you deny a man with the best decision making, protected from mistakes and sinning and greatest leader in the world something he wants no matter the situation?
Did Umar make it clear that he will ensure Rasoulullah gets them at a later time?
If Umar did it out of love, why is he being chased out? (NB companions NOT Family chased out) :)
Umar din't say teach us hadeeth. Rasoullullah asked for it. He asks. You obey. Simple
Sayed Ammar provides facts on this matter
Farid provides his personal opinion on the matter ... ahlul sunna is amazed by farid 🤣
Always amazes me how easy it is to misguide people
The prophet pbuh has appointed imam ali at ghadeer khum , dont deny history.
Well pointed out
Ammar provides personal opinions and extrapolates from the Hadith.
@syed2194 so the factual hadiths from your SAHIH books are not enough? Did you needed to be physically present at the event to believe ?
@@noorhussain6462 I fully believe in all sahih ahadith.
@syed2194 sayed ammar needs to do a topic on the fabrications of abu huraira next.
The face of the shii who commented he’s Sunni rn:
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You can find them everywhere on the internet since decades, always the same "im not shia im sunni but..."
✝ ( 📖 1 TIMOTHY 2 : 5 ) There is ONE God & there is one mediator between God & Men, the MAN Christ Jesus ➜ According to this verse the mediator between God & men was a MAN, this proves Jesus is NOT God
This shows how deflection is seen as the best argument farid has for his fanboys. Never mind he defending blatantly disobeying RasoolAllah to his face.
Not just what but telling RasoolAllah what is enough for Muslims.
its so interesting how sunnis are using sunni hadith to refute sunni hadith
5:43 totally weak argument. He said: The Qur'an is enough not "wait until you(oh prophet) get better" or "until the prophet gets better". It Simply doesnt work.
It says in the beginning, "the prophet may peace and blessings be upon him is seriously ill", and then adds that in after, why would he say the prophet is seriously ill if his opinion was only that only the Quran is sufficient for all of time even after him becoming better?
It was a wrong opinion of his and a mistake like any human, but you unfortunately will take this as evidence but not the other praises of Umar Al Farooq (Allah be pleases with him).
@@everythingandroidois He was Very clear. What you are saying makes no Sense, he Said that the Qur'an is enough and that is not his opinion?
@@kaiquecrisostomo846Then why did he have to bring up the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) being severely ill? It would be pointless according to your narrative because he should have just said "tHe Quran is enough". Handwaving is not a proper response.
How about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) did said "no" to RasulAllah (SAW) and did not erase what he commanded? You will give a good twist to that, but not to this due to your bias?
@@everythingandroidois You disobey RasoolAllah to his face then claim this person was great enough to be prophet!
That is where your & farid logic is at gutter level
the prophet pbuh lived for 3 more days, and even gave a sermon in which he said what he would've wrote. so you majoosis stay coping, because you got no evidence for Ali's successorship after the prophet and the infallibility of the 12 ''imams.''
Good argument, next vid try defending sayyidna Ibles r.a when he disobeyed Allah azwj.
Are you going to defend Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) when he was asked to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW), but he refused to and swore to not in front of RasulAllah (SAW) thereby disobeying RasulAllah (SAW) for a reason he thought was right.
So disobedience to RasulAllah (SAW) is relative and cannot be looked at in a way of a human mistake whereby the person thinks for instance RasulAllah (SAW) is severely sick so therefore does not grab pen and paper, a mistake but condemnation forever? No.
@@everythingandroidois He didn't disobey, he just needed a help.
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Mashallah. Sunni brothers can never escape from the Hadith of paper and pen! All they can do is to play around and try to justify what Umar did
Play around lol at least no one rejecting and the explanation is given. Shias have no case
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
Pen paper for what?
Narrated by Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her):
"When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in his last illness, he asked for a sheet (to cover his body), and he wore it as a garment; then he fainted and, when he recovered consciousness, he asked for a pen and a paper and wrote, 'Write: No one has the right to be worshipped but Allah; and Muhammad is His Messenger.' " (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 64, Hadith 468)
Amazing how the Shi'a claim to love Ali, yet interpret hadith to portray him as a coward incapable of standing up to Umar.
Here we have Umar somehow stopping the guidance of the Ummah, and Ali's just letting it happen?
A bit like the lies about Fatima's house. Again, Ali, the infallible Imam and praised warrior, fails to stand up for what is right.
He denied pen and paper just because he was caring so much about the PAIN of holy prophet but didnt denied when he was asked to leave and acted upon it 😂. If he was really that much caring person why did he left the prophet in pain instead of staying .
also them saying if Allah really wanted it to happen it would have happened. He would have gotten the pen and paper. it is like saying that if Allah really wanted His creation to worship Him then He would have created us as robots. It is like saying if Allah loves His prophets H e would have given Nabii Nuh and Lut obedient sons and wives. Weak arguments. Anything to defend Umar. Funny thing when he says Ammar says.. no it is not Ammar but Saheeh books
When RasulAllah says he wants something to stop people from going astray, if you truthfully believe his Nubuwwa you would not say anything and you would listen. If the Prophet kicks you out on his deathbed, YOU did something wrong. Wake up akhi, Umar has done a lot of wrong in your own books. It's time we stop making excuses. Politics was as real then as it is now
@@andrewsarinas1180 All the shias in the comments. It's funny everyone says this is "insufficient" and he "needs evidence" when they don't understand that intepreting the text Nakshawani brings forth is using evidence since you could take a bad turn or good turn depending on how you know the person and what people after did. For instance, after this incident, Ibn Abbas RA actually stated that Prophet Muhammad SAW passed away being pleased with Umar RA.
We should also make notice that they are humans and they will make mistakes because their judgment of what they think gets in the way like Ali RA refusing (swearing) to erase the title of RasulAllah at treaty of hudaybiyyah. People could take this to a bad turn or good turn, but we know through context that this person was loved by RasulAllah SAW so similarly when Umar RA refers to severe sickness we can assume it was because he RA did not want more pain to Prophet SAW at that moment and knew the message of Islam was complete as Allah revealed so he thought later but he was wrong ofcourse as was Ali RA in that case, so he would wait and the Prophet SAW had three days to say whatever he wanted SAW.
That means nothing, because Ali didn't give the pen and paper either and probably he also had to leave.
@@altamashbaibars9477 who told you that ?
This happens when you subscribe to the wrong history channel.
Ur comparing the prophet to a “Sheikh”. What umar did was wrong. Have some shame. Astagfirallah
Noor Ali got violated 😭😭😭
An entire video by Farid and his laanthi face trying to “refute” and the most you took from the video is this 🤣
Mentally challenged and intellectually diminished lot
Oh ok. So according to u the incident of Ghadeer e khum never happened before the Holy Prophet pbuh passed away? He didn't announce his successor before?
The incident of hadees e kisaa never happened where Allah said he has kept all types of impurities away from the ahlulbayt?? And said that they cannot ever commit a sin, let alone talk back to the Holy Prophet.
Secondly i dont understand why u defend someone who has been a kafir for 40 years and only accepted islam out of fear of being killed. Then he angered the only remaining daughter of the Holy Prophet pbuh, burned her door, pushed it upon her, killed the Child in her womb (this is all in ur books btw) and she died angry with him and abu bakr
I mean, seriously, to what level will u go to in defending him? As if speaking above the Messenger of Allah is not enough, let alone calling him delirious nauzobillah. U will even throw ur own prophet under the bus for defending a fallible human being?? Astaghfirullah
To anyone reading this i advise u to plz watch the whole video of Dr Ammar and then decide which side u r on. MY PROPHET PBUH IS THE GREATEST AND MOST COMPLETE CREATION OF GOD, WHETHER IN SICKNESS OR IN HEALTH. WHETHER IN PAIN OR NOT. I HAVE BEEN TOLD TO OBEY HIM REGARDLESS OF HIS HEALTH CONDITIONS. THEN WHO THE HELL IS OMAR TO DECIDE WHAT HE SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO??!
Accepted islam out of fear of being smited, no authentic evidence.
"Burned her door, pushed it upon her, ...", not authentic according to shia and sunni sources, sorry.
Didn't say he specifically called him delerious in the source.
The incident of the pen and paper was a mistake because Omar (RA) made a mistake in his opinion of thinking he (SAW) was too sick to do it and should wait until after but you will use this as evidence against Omar (RA) and disregard the same sources showing Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) praising him. He is not infallible though.
"The Prophet said, "Among the nation of Bani Israel who lived before you, there were men who used to be inspired with guidance though they were not prophets, and if there is any of such persons amongst my followers, it is 'Umar."" - Sahih Bukhari
And many others, but you will deny ofcourse.
How much more can you lie about Omar Al Farooq (Allah be pleased with him).
As for the other topics about Imama, you can watch Mohammed Hijab's londoniyya on Shiasm where he goes over Imama and the understandings and evidences and weak evidences used.
Ohh so sahih bukhari and muslim are not authentic sunni books?? Wonder why they are called sahih then
Just answer me this: did omar know more than the Prophet pbuh?? Did he come with the book of Allah? Was he the messenger? If your Prophet pbuh is telling u to bring Him pbuh something, would you ever deny him? Was he asking for a knife?? No. Just a pen and paper.
The thing is: sunnis have associated the hypocrite sahabas with their own identity. So questioning them is like questioning your whole life and everything u have believed uptil now. I get it. Its hard. But not if u love the truth. And actually want to seek out the true path.
Please brush up on ur islamic history and then decide whats right and wrong. That alone will be enough for u
@@PsychedOutSoulDon't play sarcastic as you provided no evidence for the counterclaims I made, you said, "burned her (Fatima may Allah be pleased with her) door, pushed it upon her, and smited the baby"...
Go ahead and show me this in the two sahih books please, if not please stay quiet because you are just parroting other shia people and doing blind following of your shia clerics without properly looking in.
As for the issue pertaining to Omar Al-Farooq (may Allah be pleased with him), I told you that he made a mistake in his judgment in thinking it was a better decision to not happen as Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) was very sick. I also showed you the same source, sahih bukhari, showing Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praising Omar (RA) but I know you guys will reject that because you cherry pick.
Again, on the issue of Imama please check out Mohammed Hijab as he addresses this on "londoniyya shiaism".
Allah would never choose a Prophet who always ran away from battles. Who used to drink even after islam (also in muslim and bukhari), who was kicked out by the Prophet on his deathbed, a whole ayah was revealed for him that do not raise ur voices above the voice of the Prophet pbuh bcz if u do that, every good deed u have ever done will become zero. (surah hujarat) Go and read ur tafaseer. That ayah is about omar and abu bakr. Apni books parhi nai hoteen aise hi behas karne aa jate hain
And I'll say it again The incident of the door is mentioned in both ur books. Khud mehnat kar k Google karlo I'm not gonna spoonfeed u
@@PsychedOutSoul Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
Loool that guy in the beginning got caught like a thief 😂
lol
Yeah , you can make excuses for satan also , he used to care so much about The God that he disobeyed Him by not following His instruction but eventually accepted to get out when he was asked to get out 😂
What about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) refused to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW) when it was commanded by RasulAllah (SAW), excuses, let's play your game of assuming the worst but I won't stoop that low. Excuses...
@@everythingandroidois we don't have any such narration mentioning Ali ( A.S) refused to erase any statement despite ordered by the Holly prophet. The sunni sources that mention this event are weak , unreliable and lack uniformity in details of the event You can search all those narrations if you want for yourself , for us , these sources are not reliable at all to make an opinion about those divinely guided people.
@@hammadhussain4422 no the sunni sources are not weak on ali refusing prophets order. This is is your infallible imam, u have bigger problems.
@@timeread3099 mention those sources which are strong and explicitly says imam Ali refused holly prophet.
@@hammadhussain4422 its literally in our must authentic book Sahih al-Bukhari 3184 "By Allah I will never erase it" Dont lie on our Sources. Ali is not infallible.
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Kazakhstan ? do u have wahabi in Kazakhstan as well? i heard Kazakhstan is a beautful country with sufi style mosque not wahabi like mosques? confused?
@@flag_bearertruth6257 sunni and wahabi warw beautiful people as but shia are evil
@10:10 honestly im starting to doubt you actually watched ammars full lecture. His claim wasn't that he couldn't deliver the message his claim was that he was being stopped from putting it writing and that despite years of delivering the message he wanted it in writing one final time so that you dont go astray. Sadly he was prevented and indeed we all went astray
Well maybe he wanted Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him's) name on their? It's just an endless circle and assumptions won't help just like my case here.
@@everythingandroidois that's fair brother. Maybe he did maybe he didn't although this wasn't the point. And I am not assuming that he was going to appoint Ali (3s) the point is that he was prevented from doing so
@@whereztheEvidence It isn't fair it is pathetic conjecture. There is overwhelming evidence RasoolAllah want Ali (as) to be his successor. There zero evidence for RasoolAllah wanting Abu Bakar to be his successor. They come out with he lead the salaah when he was ill but never should have been there if he had obeyed RasoolAllah.
It is very clear what he wanted to write and Umar clearly knew what he was doing. There is a lot evidence for this all they give is pathetic excuse to Ghadir khum
@@Shia.Ahlulbayt while I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am giving the poor man the benefit of the doubt for the sake of argument. Afterall I am commenting to clarify Sayed Ammars point and position which is clearly being misinterpreted by creator of the video
@@whereztheEvidence Exactly that all they have to throw conjecture at it. It could mean this or that etc. That is all they have.
That is why we shouldn't give inch to these disingenuous arguments.
Look at the comments Farid fan club they were desperate for any kind of response. This feeble one from Farid they will still cheer on.
I remember how bad his video on the battle of jamal was. He ended by saying it was like a dispute with your family. Normal families don't go to war and kill each other. That is how bad his arguments are. But they praised that video so much because they were desperate to make any excuse for the inexcusable. That is all he does
I'm just here to see the self-satisfied look of Nakshawani to his own argument.
You could watch his videos instead 😂
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
What a poor translation of events. You were better of staying silent!
Convenient that you managed to clip out the part where Ammar questions "but Umar said" when this was a big question during this talk. In other words when the Rasul (s.a) speaks you comply. You don't "but"
He also conveniently clip out the part of his Syaikh Assim Al-Hakim literally explaining Umar prevented Prophet because he think the Prophet may say/write things that will hurt the Deen. Instead he keep yapping his own personal interpretation that Umar is just worried Prophet is too much in pain to say/write. One is Umar questioning the mental capability of Prophet, one is Umar questioning the physical capability of Prophet, BIG DIFFERENCE
@@roffi_daijoubuThat's what I don't really find his videos convincing.
you do realize he fainted afterwards??
imagine the prophet saw asking you to get some paper and he immeditely faints and you leave him and get some paper
@@hotcharizard874 you're kidding right? Imagine the Rasul (swt) asked you for anything and you replied with "but".
The point remains, why didn't the Prophet (as) have it dictated at a later time, if it was so important. And why would he have to say it again if he already declared Ali (ra) the caliph. It's total speculation on the part of the Shia. Regarding Umar(ra), there is nothing in Umar's history (post reversion) and his time as Caliph that would make you suspect he had ulterior motives, yet the Shia want you to believe this. One of his most closest companions, fighting and defending the Prophet all his life, and as Caliph lived meagerly and spread Islam. I know it's hard to imagine saying 'but' to the Prophet, but these were his companions, they didn't always have to be formal with the Prophet(sa). Also, I don't see the problem with questioning the Prophets mental capabilities. There are many illnesses that can cause delirium, including pneumonia, which could have been what the Prophet (sa) was inflicted with before his death. Allah knows best. @@roffi_daijoubu
Farid rightly said that the hadith which Ammar quoted did not mention of Umar. But there is another hadith in Bukhari which clearly mentions Umar. 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.' But `Umar said, 'The Prophet is seriously ill, and we have got Allah's Book with us and that is sufficient for us. 'Sahih al-Bukhari 3053. In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 259
My friends usually discuss these topics and the shi3a mentioned this but the sunni claimed it was weak? Is there any information about the authenticity of this narration?
@@a7bkx204 brother this is in Sahih Bukhari. So there is no question of isnad.
Umar believed the prophet was too ill to write at that point in time, I don't see any issue with that. You shias are forcing a maleficent intent when there is none. The prophet had multiple days after this to write or say what he wished, but chose not to, which goes to show that it was not needed in that time. Also Allah SWT said he has perfected the religion in the Quran, so there was nothing left to add after that point.
Forgive me for my knowledge but does that it means it is authentic? Isnad is what we used to determine if the narrators are truthful/reliable?
Once upon a time this shi3a guy I know informed me that in his final days the Prophet PBUH instructed to companions to go to war under the command of Usama but they refused. Any information on that?
“ the man who came with a book “ 😮
That says it all !
😂😂😂
Salam alaikum jameean. Plain and simple: Does the Hadith say the prophet asked for a pen and paper? Clearly it does. Did somebody say the prophet is Ill thereby stopping him from getting that paper? Clearly yes again. Did the prophet want the pen and paper? Yes? Did he get the pen and paper? No. Then clearly it means that the prophet was disobeyed. The Quran in 4:59 clearly states to obey Allah and his messenger. Whatever Omar’s intentions good or bad he clearly disobeyed the prophet it’s that simple.
Also do they really believe Allah wouldn’t allow this final thing he said he was providing so they don’t go astray that Allah would allow that to be something corrupted from
Delirium
The fact he was worried about what would happen to them and was offering a solution in writing so
That it cannot be misconstrued shows he wasn’t delirious
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. If it was something important, the Prophet (saw) had enough time to say it. Also, Allah says in the Quran that in Surah Maeda (5) ayah 3 "...This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed my favour upon you...". This means Islam was perfect and complete when the Prophet (saw) died. If Shias say the Prophet didn't have a chance to deliver this information to us, that means they saying Islam wasn't perfect and complete which is against the ayah of the Quran
@@Harith112 Brother the point I’m making is that the prophet was disobeyed. The Shias and Sunnis can believe what they want clearly they each believe what they believe because they think it will take them closer to Allah so He can judge. The point is that the Quran clearly commands the believers to obey Allah and His prophet that means if the prophet says “dont move from this position on mountain” then you don’t move or if he says get me this pen and paper then you get him this pen and paper. The Hadith doesn’t say “don’t get me this pen and paper because I’m ill I can write what I want in a couple of days when I’m better” what it does say is get me this pen and paper so however you feel about Umar the point is he disobeyed Allah and his prophet-plain and simple.
Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me.
Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100.
@@iMan-610 The point of my comment is that the prophet was disobeyed. If he clearly asks for a pen and paper to write something who is any person to deny him this? It is in a sahih book so clearly the incident happened and he clearly asked for a pen and paper and was disobeyed. The Quran is clear Obey Allah and His messenger. By not obeying him they are disobeying him are they not? Put it another way: if someone is said to be a rightly guided person doesn’t this rightly guided part mean that they obey Allah and his prophet? If they were to disobey Allah and his prophet would you say they are still rightly guided in disobeying the lord of all creation and his final and greatest prophet? It is very simple. He asked for a pen and a paper and it was denied him. God has commanded him to be obeyed if you don’t bring him that pen and paper then you have disobeyed a command of Allah to obey Him and His messenger. It doesn’t matter why Umar disobeyed him. The point is that he did disobey him. Plain and simple.
Don't know why but my respect for farid has sky rocketed in last few months. Jazakallah bro
Hassan allahyari...
@@xxxdded622 The Pakistani Shia that says saying ya Ali Madad is okay and not shirk? yeah, no, thank you.
@@irtazza133 i am not his supporter. I want Farid to reply him...
Sayed ammar smashed your doctrine.
@@Johnny-xk7vwthe only thing getting smashed will "Sayed" Amar's head into the hellfire if he doesn't repent.
How can someone even be a Shia man It makes no sense. You believe that the prophet SAW was exceedingly naive to the point where he constantly kept these so called munafiqeen around him and allowed them to maintain their status and power amongst the Muslims -- all while apparently marrying wicked women.
You also have no choice but to believe in tahreef due to the way the Qur'an has been transmitted and preserved -- any excuse from you lot in this regard is sheer cope.
Ustadh we need more of these us laymen can really utilities the knowledge what you people have may Allah bless us all
What knowledge let's just see how Farid made excuses for disobeying RasoolAllah.
3:45 doesn't mention Umar beat his sister, doesn't mention he beat her husband, doesn't mention he didn't risk his life when RasoolAllah was under boycott, doesn't mention sahih hadith Umar fled jihad, doesn't mention sahih hadith Umar hit his daughter, doesn't mention he beat Abu Bakr sister & other women mourn his death. Instead he claims someone fled jihad was so good. Whitewash everything to justify him disobeying RasoolAllah.
4:19 fleeing jihad he fails to mention.
4:48 excuses for disobeying RasoolAllah.
How he didn't tell RasoolAllah what to do & obeyed Allah messenger?
5:39 Farid dishonesty again when Umar said he wasn't dead it could have been for other reasons. That is no evidence to not believe RasoolAllah was on his, deathbed. There more references him saying he wouldn't live for long like his farewell sermon. Selective Farid manipulating the narrative. There is hadith where actually discuss it.
It was common knowledge RasoolAllah was on his death bed.
5:54 making up fake analogy using a sheikh instead of RasoolAllah 🙄
No one was asking RasoolAllah to teach them! RasoolAllah order them to do an action he disobeyed.
See how he manipulates his example
Thanks for plugging the video of Ammar Nakshawani.
Who on earth is Umar to tell the prophet what he should do and do deny him his request. May Allah guide you.
Didn't Imam Ali r.a do the same thing in the treaty of Hudaybiyyah...?
Because he cares about his well being. And so did Ali do when the prophet commanded him to erase "Prophet of God" from the treaty of Hudaybiyyah, Ali refused the prophet’s command and the prophet erased it himself.
@_Calaven no
@@user-co8uf1mj6c
He did, sorry to tell you, but that doesn’t make him a bad person 🤷♂️
@@redstonexgamer4238 he didn't.
Asalaamou alaykum wa rahmatou Allahi wa barakaatouhou son. You are doing a job. I ask Allah to grant you jannat al firdous 🤲🏻
To cover umar's bad intentions farid gave this hadith in respond to make umar look like he really cared:
Sa'id bin Al-Musaiyab told me that 'Umar said, "By Allah, when I heard Abu Bakr reciting it, my legs could not support me and I fell down at the very moment of hearing him reciting it, declaring that the Prophet had died."
This hadith has weak isnad, the chain is missing so it cannot be considered strong. Love playing back the chain of narrators game on you. Because thats what you do on some of your videos focusing of weak chains but you urself provide hadith with weak chain.
Evidence?
Haha some? He does that I ALL his refutations because he knows people don't know what he's talking about but then he uses hadiths that have weak narrators as well. Literally his only comeback because he knew he can get away with it
This video is why I'm shia.
Lol, Shiaism is based on Imamat, this video speaks nothing of Imamat so I am confused
If this video is y u r shia then u have serious problems 😂😂😂
@@everythingandroidoisyour guy is arguing against Sunni literature, everything Sayed says was from Sunni literature.
Allahumma salli 'ala Muhammad wa aali Muhammad!
Hope you become a muslim one day
You will protect umat over the prophet
This is an innovation, but it is a good innovation. My fave.
And the Shia hit themselves and make shirk and invent there own timings for there prayers 👍
Bad argument. If that was the case then he wouldnt say "the quran is sufficient for us". He is straight denying the message the prophet was going to give.
Let us assume you are right, so what should we bring out of that? Are you implying that Allah willed the prophet to tell us something and Umar prevented it?
@bolaelegbede7843 I'm not implying. It's what actually happened. Is that so hard to grasp. He ask for a pen and paper to write something that we can never go astray. You know how valuable that information is. It's the difference of heaven and hell. If someone were to take away a trillion dollars and all the riches in the world away from you, will you be happy?
@bolaelegbede7843 listen to ammars lectures. You'll see why he did that.
@@senpai_1829 You must be joking. I used the word "WILLED " by Allah and you still said Umar stopped it. Are you on drugs?
@@senpai_1829 Both of you are jokes.
Farid, I am a Zaydi, not Sunni.
You and I both know that you not even noting this act was the incorrect one is pure bias.
It is impossible to say anything except this hadith is a grave mistake.
May the peace, blessings, and mercy of Allah be upon Umar.
No Muslim can affirm Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) was correct in his act without betraying his own intellect.
I am not defending the Rafidhi, but this is the reality.
I totally agree. Umar disobeyed a direct order of the prophet. Perhaps with Omar doing so he fell outside the fold of islam.
@@user-hq1uf7ud1fSheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) is one of the 10 promised paradise and paradise is not promised to those who fell into apostasy, so take heed.
The purpose of the video wasn't to discuss whether Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, made the best or correct decision in that moment. It was to address the claims and extrapolations that Nakshawani made from the event in question. Farid never "affirmed [he] was correct in his act". No Sunni denies that companions are capable of making mistakes, so proving or conceding that a specific companion made a specific mistake isn't the item in question. That would be shifting the goal post. The question is about the exact implications and ramifications of this specific act, and that's what Farid was discussing and challenging.
@@Suleiman212How shall I put this brother...
I disagree with the Rafidhi as apparently his point was that Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) is not a reliable narrator, and he is. To reject a narration because Umar is in the chain is irrational. Even Zaydis who are harsher than me in narrations from certain people do not oppose Sheikh Umar (Rahimahullah) as a narrator, that I have read.
So in this sense I agree with Farid.
At the same time this horrific event is of high significance to the shi`a.
The General Muslim Community, due to their desire to not say anything which could have bad implications on the Sahaba (Radi Allahu Anhuma,) peculiarly assert that what was going to be written may not have been what the ummah was to do, after our Prophet (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) left us.
To the rational intellect, given that the theology and law of the religion had already been completed prior to this, it is clear to me that our Prophet (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) desired to save us from this fitnah we fell into, where the ummah could not agree on a Caliph at first, etc.
Without even the slightest doubt the line which deserves the title of horrifying is that The Book of Allah is enough.
Without doubt, as someone who identifies yourself as "Sunni," you must object to this statement, as the Book of Alllah itself instructs us to turn to the words of The Messenger of Allah (Salullahu Alayhi Wa Alihi Wa Salam) for guidance, so the idea that The Book of Allah could suffice us *without* the Sunnah is rejected.
Shi`a feel that this day we were deprived of yet another affirmation of a crucial element of the Sunnah: The Imamate of Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib.
I mention all of this only to clarify why I originally called this video bias... reading such an error out loud, without mentioning the error of it, is a strange thing.
Certainly if Farid had read a Quranist saying similar, that the Quran is enough, he would refute it, but here there is someone he heavily respects, so we have silence...
He’s not saying it’s correct or incorrect. He’s simply explaining possible reasons why Umar RA did not provide the pen. Nakhshwani and Farid are looking at the same Hadith and extrapolate from it. Nakhshwani extrapolates maliciously and Farid extrapolates positively, citing Umar RA’s early contributions towards Islam.
The book shelf in the background holding on to dear life, Farid please save it😫
May Allah guide you Sunnis
You guys, we cannot trust you. Who do you mean by ALLAH? You mean Ali or who exactly?
Stop Worshipping 12 imams and calling out to other than Allah .
It doesnt make shiism sahih
Even if we say Sunnism is wrong it doesn't make shiism sahih
😂lol..... first look at yourself..
SUNNI is more logical than Shia cult
Read the part where Omar argued with Muhammad (saws) using the Torah,. 😅
Again.. Thanks for making this very civil. Jazakallahu khair
Always, the truth hurts, I am sunni but What sayed Ammar is exposing everything is in our books 📚; Alhamndulillah;tried to buy all theses books to teach my self and I am still asking why our sheikh don't tell us the truth?😢😢😢
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
" i am sUNnI"
Munaafiq
You are a 🤡
Lmao u shia behind the niqab of sunni but ur niqab also aint proper 😂🤣🤣 we can see you👀
Love U mate.. epic
im going to be very honest this was a weak explanation you gotta take an L on this one sunnis
Exctly 😂👏🏼
There are quite some concerns here, one the prophet pbuh was unlettered so how could he write, and let's say he did say something to that effect.
It would be just another hadith so there would be variations in it, disputed upon, difference of opinion etc etc.
It would not weigh against even a single quranic verse.
Thirdy, he could've said anything, infinite number of possibilities but it's always , we know what he wanted to say.
Pray tell how do you guys know that.
Narrated by Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her):
"When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in his last illness, he asked for a sheet (to cover his body), and he wore it as a garment; then he fainted and, when he recovered consciousness, he asked for a pen and a paper and wrote, 'Write: No one has the right to be worshipped but Allah; and Muhammad is His Messenger.' " (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 64, Hadith 468
Omg his voice, if anyone wants to see surah Al Munafiqoon in action one only needs to look at Ammar
The manifiqeen are you and the ones you follow, you can't argue from facts
Whoever calls a man ‘kafir’ [disbeliever] or said ‘O, enemy of Allah’, when he is not one, (the accusation) will rebound to him” (narrated by Al-Bukhari and Muslim).
Read your kalma again brother don’t make such accusations lightly. Fear Allah
@@Ishi1XP indeed, and Ammar is indeed the enemy, I understand it may hurt you and others, but once you realize that shiism is not from Allah, you will understand why I said what I said
@@Ishi1XP Who said he is not one? he is out there misquoting Allah and his prophet, so he is a clear Kafir.
@@Ishi1XPone who curses the sahaba and our mother Aisha is kafir
Run along now rafidhi
So ghadeer never happened?
According to Quran 53:3 the Prophet does not speak from his own inclination but speaks what Allah tells him. Why would Allah tell Prophet to write the will if he was too seriously ill? Does Umar know more about Prophet’s condition than Umar? Him asking to write the will down is what Allah has told him to do and Umar denied him that and disobeyed the Prophet.
He did wrote something in the end
Bro you are hilarious. At 5 mins in, the holy prophet tells you to get a pen and a paper for which you will never go astray and you still stick up for umar in this case saying he was in a good position to do so. Then why oh farid did rasulAllah sawas kick them out? Why was there a bust up in there? Tell me you don't know the aya that whatever rasulAllah sawas tells you it is from Allah swt? You don't know this oh farid? Oh farid you compare rasulAllah sawas who receives wahi and everything he tells you is from Allah swt, you compare this to your local sheikh if he was sick and you dont trouble him with a hadith?? Its not like the sahabis told.the holy Prophet tell us a hadith. It was RasulAllah sawas who said I will write something for you.that you wont go astray. Now dear farid you are running like usayn bolt you have all these hadiths in their multitudes that it was umar who stopped the prophet from writing this.formula but now you say it wasnt umar who called the prophet dilarious? Be honeat to yourself and your subscribers and be just coz you will be held accountable. The man provided you source after source from your own books that clearly umar wanted to stop the prophet otherwise there wouldnt have been a fight. Im intrigued why you only do an extremly short reaction. I mean ammar nakshawani provides many many sources and you skip a whole heap. Of course its clear why.
Masha Allah brother, I hope farid sees this comment and responds to it instead of the comment he responded to in this video.
The prophet SAW is still a human being, and as Farid showed before this event he was in extremely bad health (constantly passing out, not being able to pray in congregation and we know how important praying in congregation was for him SAW, if he couldn't do that, than that shows the intense state he was in). For any loved one, if you see them in such a state you want to them rest as much as possible. Umar RA did not say we don't need it explicitly, he said "the prophet of Allah SAW has been overcome with pain", that's his excuse for not listening to the prophet in this particular scenario, and if he had indeed made a mistake and this paper was in fact something needed in Islam, Allah SWT would not have said your religion has been perfected in Quran 5:3, hence why Umar RA said that the Quran is enough for us here, as it has been completed, nonetheless the prophet SAW had multiple days after this event to write this down and or say it, which he did not, again pointing to the fact that it was simply something that he thought would be a good idea at that time but later decided it wasn't.
@@mohammadrizwaan1890 Now what you are implying is that Umar knows the health of the prophet PBUH more than he himself (The greatest creation of Allah SWT since the beginning of time) that he can stop the prophet from doing something he decided? Also we all know the actions of the prophet PBUH are dictated by Allah the almighty, and the prophet PBUH decided to write something and later felt it wasn't necessary?
@@muhammadtasiu5473prophet muhammad at the end was but a man. It says that in quran and hadeeth of the prophet himself. Surah abas is allahs reprimend for the prophet frowning on a poor blind sahabi. It tells you even nabi saw was a human at the end of the day and succeptible to mistake (not sin or insincerity) ali r.a also denied the prophets command when he refused to alter the contract between the quraysh and nabi saw.
@@muhammadtasiu5473 Everyone who loves anyone and sees them in bad health generally tries to make decisions for them as though said person isn't as a tuned to their own health. It is not hard to see that. You shiites just like to dramatize and twist things to fit your own agendas.
His reference to the Hadith is from Sahih Al Bukhara. A text the Ahle Sunnah use as a very authentic book.
I also have some doubts in this Hadith since "prophet could not write", the hadith says "I (Rasool Allah) will write for you a statement" and this is a well documented history. Another doubt with this Hadith is that Prophet said people to go away so who would a scribe be documenting the statement if Prophet did not want anyone near him ? if the Prophet wanted someone to write for him then he would have said it verbally.
It means he'll dictate.
@@FaridResponds Thank you Farid for clarification but I also had a comment earlier that when prophet ordered everyone to leave was Ali (r.a) also included in everyone ?
@@singalongme1 Everyone means everyone.
@@singalongme1 : Think about it: If a king said “I will build you a bridge to cross this river” does he mean that he’ll build it himself, or that he’ll order it to be built?
See? It’s not that hard. 😉👍
Sounds like you agree with the Shia guy again?
Salam alaykum, I am genuinely curious. Can anyone explain Ghadir Khumm and this: "Hadith al-Thaqalayn we see that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is reported to have said, "I am leaving among you two weighty things (thaqalayn), and if you adhere to both of them, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahl al-Bayt.""
Apparently this is also in Bukhari and Tirmidhi?
I am uneducated so I was hoping someone could explain this. Jazakallah khair
Wa aleikoum Salam dear brother. Firstly, the prophet (saww) was going to Mecca with thousands of muslims, but he then arrived to a place called Khumm. God later on revealed a verse saying: O Apostle! Deliver what has been sent down to you from your Lord; and if you don't do it, you have not delivered His message (at all); and Allah will protect you from the people. “ This verse means that god wanted the prophet to deliver a message to his people. Later, prophet Muhammad (saww) says to his people: “ It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere to them both, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)." which is the Hadith Al-Thaqalayn. The prophet told us to follow the Quran and the people of his household. Without them, Islam would not be complete. But then, the prophet (saww) says: “Do I not have more right over the believers than what they have over themselves?" His people replied with: “ Yes, O’ Messenger Of God. “ The prophet would then, held up Ali (as)’s hand and say: For whoever I am his Leader, 'Ali is his Leader. O' God, love those who love him, and be hostile to those who are hostile to him." which clearly shows that imam Ali (as) was chosen by god. But god would reveal another verse, saying: “Today I have perfected your religion and completed my favour upon you, and I was satisfied that Islam be your religion." (Qur'an 5:3) May Allah give you knowledge and guide you. Wasalam aleikoum.
@@mohajsart123 so ali disobeyed the prophet and allah by giving bayah to abu bakr. later ali planned the death of uthman and took the caliphate. muwaiyah avenged them
@@soheil527 he didn’t disobeyed the prophet (saww). You taught Ali (as) could kill everyone to become caliph? If he fought for his stand, Islam would have ended centuries ago. Their would have been a HUGE war between the muslims. In fact, there was an election between the Muslim community. They all chose abu bakr instead of Ali (as). Then abu bakr appointed omar instead of Ali and finally, Othman was elected by the muslims. But saying that imam Ali planned the death of uthman and took his role as caliph is wild. You clearly don’t research. Uthman was assassinated by a kharijite. In your logic, if Ali (as) took uthman’s place then why didn’t he do it to abu bakr or umar? You don’t have a point. Uthman ruled for 12 years, literally more than a decade. While imam Ali (as) ruled for 4 years. So your point saying that Ali took over uthman’s caliphate is not logic. In your logic, why didn’t he do it years ago? If Ali (as) had killed the three first caliphs, Islam would be gone. Stop spreading lies on ahlulbayt. This person was asking for knowledge and you are saying lies to make him believe you. Research before saying anything false. May Allah guide you.
@@mohajsart123 ali had no power to end islam. are you mental? Khalid would kicked his ass and killed him
@@mohajsart123 he took using force. ali was never elected or liked by a lot of muslims then. there is not a single evidence that ali was elected as caliph his leadership skills were clearly lacking. he didnt do anything in his 4 years , ummayads did all the fighting and winning in wars. hashmi sat at home and plotted with ali
Very poor Farid. What's the point of your video.
Umer always questioned and doubted prophethood , also Allah said in quran obery the messenger , who is umer to make decision what to follow and when to follow, plus this sugar coating technique is not going to save umer , he said quran is enough , he did not say oh Prpphet please write it later and take some rest , the fact that he said quran is enough was a desperate move from him, he knew very well that prophet was about to state the leader alongside the quran in writing
The will would have finished his conspiracy and plot
و عليكم السلام ورحمة الله و بركاته
Seriously ya akhi Jazakallah Khairan for making a video on this seriously.
Jazakallah Khair FARID BHAI
Here , Ex muslims of INDIA were also quoting that hadith with their stupid claim that prophet was dictated by UMAR RA (Astagfirullah) aur prophet feared him
Assalamualaikum farid, lately I have a problem with myself and I always think and ask something that and this is like a thought and also myself is worried and confused with the surroundings and asking something that is chaotic as if it is not calm like confused with the law, nature , shape. and god and other laws including life!! can you explain to me about my problem? greetings from Malaysia ☪️🇲🇾❤️😇
Please talk to someone that specializes in OCD therapy. From reading your comment I believe it is OCD, which can be a dehabilitating condition. If no one in Malaysia specializes in it there are videos on youtube that you can start with until you find someone. In Arabic the condition is known as وسواس قهري
Something I realised is the Sunni hadith will expose the sahaba themselves committing atrocities against the Prophet and Allah swt and you will still make excuses. Even on occasion you will belittle the Prophet to justify their actions. Wake up my brothers, your own books expose your sahaba.
Alhamdulillah another excellent response by Farid
To the Shi’as here’s a question to you all, was the prophet ﷺ prevented from delivering wahy?
So what he wanted to write wasn’t wahy? So it wasn’t direct revelation and the prophet ﷺ didn’t withhold stuff from the ummah.
Ali Ra was one of the prophet ﷺ personal scribes, why didn’t he bring the writing material then?
Why did Ali Ra “go against” the prophet ﷺ at the treaty of hudaibiyah when he didn’t listen to what he ﷺ had requested from him.
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. If it was something important, the Prophet (saw) had enough time to say it. Also, Allah says in the Quran that in Surah Maeda (5) ayah 3 "...This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed my favour upon you...". This means Islam was perfect and complete when the Prophet (saw) died. If Shias say the Prophet didn't have a chance to deliver this information to us, that means they saying Islam wasn't perfect and complete which is again the ayah of the Quran. Its also dangerous to have this belief because its saying Allah and his Prophet (saw) didn't complete Islam when the Prophet (saw) passed away
@AhmadFakih123 Omar (ra) probably made a mistake. Maybe Allah has forgiven already. Still this incident is not proof for your beliefs because of what I mentioned before.
Also, there are many ayats in the Quran that praise the sahabas. You should just keep going against the Quran by saying bad things about sahabas when Allah praised them like this:
"And the first to embrace Islam of the Muhajirun (those who migrated from Makkah to Al-Madinah) and the Ansar (the citizens of Al-Madinah who helped and gave aid to the Muhajirun) and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allah is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success."
Allah (swt) knows the future. He wouldn't have praised them like if He knew the majority of sahabas were going to go against Islam after the Prophet (saw) passes away.
@@AhmadFakih123ali Ra disobeyed the prophet ﷺ at the writing of the treaty of hudaibiya. What do you have to say for that? Did he know better than the prophet ﷺ when he didn’t comply with the command that was given to him ?
@@AhmadFakih123 Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me.
Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100
Farid, any chance you could make these videos without showing Nakshawani? Hearing his camp voice and mannerisms really puts me off.
جزاك الله خير
nah people need to see his face so they're aware
So you want a response video that already conveniently clips out parts he can't refute, to clip out all parts? At that point it's not a response video anymore, brow will just be yapping into the void😂
He can cut out his face, his gay voice is enough and unmistakable lol or at least blur it, I can’t stand it 😂
@@A7ibAllah curious how you'd identified enough of "gay voice" to categorise Nakshawani of having a "gay voice"🤔
@@roffi_daijoubu I’m from ultra liberal England, they’re everywhere here and this guy would definitely be knocking about with them, he’s as queer as the day.
That fire intro kinda love it 🔥🔥
I usually don't message or comment/respond to any videos but I am glad Br Farid that you managed to see and respond the videos. I don't know why in Ramadan Ammar wants to discuss of sunni/shia conflict when he never faced Br Asrar and then on a show contradicted his own words.
He never actually answered anything.
Asrar Rashid 🤣🤣 that wobbler 🤣🤣
He answered EVERYTHING and will continue just make sure ur strapped in it’s gonna be a hell of a ride! He has been called out directly MANY MANY times. There doesn’t need to be any direct calling anyways, you point a finger at one you’ve pointed it all jus as we Muslims feel when we’re targeted by non Muslims.
@@user-gb7uo6cc7k he answered nothing with any credible source. Just his own opinion. Farid should stick to eating mint chocolate and put some weight on instead of pretending to be a man of wisdom
everyone one makes mistakes, nashwani addresses mufti menk, zakir naik, Assim al hakeem & M hijab as sunnis, it is s amistake while ther are super wahabis , i dont know about farid guy, but if he does not celebrate mawlid, 27 rajab & 15 shaban which i believe, then he is also wahabi. also The objective of farid video was to address envy and hatred against nakhswani , yet it lacks authentic evidence, relying solely on personal opinions. and attacks, nakshwani is not saying do mutas and not pray tarawee, it is fact from sunii sources the muta was allowed in islam, Prophet wives hafa and aisha was critisiced in quran, umar did so manty things wrong and look like h did not care about the Prophet PBUH, i even read he wanted to kill the Prophet PBUH which nakshwani didnot say. the Q is iff faird guy thinks umar was a nice guy and will be first to go to jannah even before prophet, because this is what is actually saying, i think it is a bold think to say. Think and decide !!!!! . After conducting critical and rational analysis alongside research, it is evident that Umar displayed traits of being shady and emotional, merely paying lip service to Islam without progressing beyond stage one, a facet often overlooked. meaning he was not a momin, left alone sideem, arif, alwaiya while on the other side Imam Ali was arif, awiliya, siddiqeen and sabirren, being a sufi, this is my conlusion which no one talking about yet.
Think and decide !!!!!
@@user-gb7uo6cc7k
So Umar cares about prophet so much that he called him delirious?
Jazak Allah khyr Ustaadh...As surgical as ever
In providing no facts but pure personal opinions ?
@@noorhussain6462That’s what Ammar did.
@@syed2194I haven’t finished watching Farid’s video yet but I have to comment on this. If you saw Ammar’s video he’s using sahih Hadith such as Muslim and Bukhari. So how exactly is it an opinion when he’s using facts from Sunni literature. What he speaks of isn’t ambiguous either it is very clear cut and easy to understand.
@@ShipMyPantsYeah, using Sunni Ahadith to fit in his own narrative. Farid is just putting some logical context. That‘s what he did in the previous refutation. I haven‘t watched this yet, but I‘m sure it will go the same way as the last one.
@@ShipMyPantscan u guys do anything other than lying and manipulating our narrative of wht they dont say ?
And accusing of the prophet and his companies of severe accusations??
Brother Farid which war did Umar fought in?
Seriously the hate for the family of the prophet is so evident here we don’t even need our books to prove you wrong your own books do it for you
This!
Question:
Why did the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم want paper to write if he didnt know how to write?
He could have given it to his scribe to write.
You need to watch Ammar Naqshwanis Ramadan event. He has spoken purely from Sunni sources
@@Warlock786 ammar is a liar lol
@roneddy is he lol...then I suppose Sunni Hadith is lies also ? Lol
@@Warlock786 You literally are on a video that shows ammar is a liar, bruh what 😂😂
Thank you Farid, please upload more videos like this as they are very important and beneficial to the ummah.
never heard this guy, if farid organic wahabi means follow M wahab or taymiah whabai and if make mawlid? cox i think farid is a khwariji the way he talks?
@@flag_bearertruth6257I swear you don’t even know what any of the words u used mean, you’re just a parrot
somrtimes a person is heart inside and jujust coz u cannot ansnwer, there is a easy way out. I saw this guy farid who is answering ammar, i wanted to know his madhab, aeeqdah so i can get to the bottom of it, nakhwani address all of them sunni, nakhwani is wrong, coz mufti menk is awahabi, hakeen sound like khwariji so i wanted to know if farid is a wahabi or jhwaiji menaing his view on mawlid, and miraj??@@OnePullUpKing
if farid can defend umar and abu bakr, it means he will be resurrected with abu bakr and umar, wow ..... think and reflect all. does farid also like miuawia and yazid? this changes everything, is farid organic wahabi (taymiah) or khwariji (reject ali and uthman khaifat)? think and decide?
Allahumma barik
Living for this
please keep these videos coming!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sayed Ammar states what your own Hadiths say.
Fixed the title of the video for you.
Let me fix it even more...
"Sayyed Ammar points out a mistake of fallible Omar (RA) on his refusal to get pen and paper due to his opinion of the Prophet's (SAW) severe sickness but forgets fallible Ali (RA) also made a mistake like any human when refusing to erase name of RasulAllah (SAW) when commanded to by him (SAW) because of his (Ali RA) incorrect opinion in the matter"
"Sayyed Ammar quotes a bunch of people and makes it seem like the one Sahaba he has a grudge against called him (SAW) delarious"
@@everythingandroidois first off, nice whataboutism that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Second, there's a difference between saying straight up no to the Prophet and calling him delirious, and asking to be excused from doing something out of respect from him.
Nice try though.
@@africa241See I suspected this is how you would respond, and I was right; the text does not say Omar (RA) called him (SAW) delirious.
Omar (RA) never said "no", the same way Ali (RA) never said "no". They both, may Allah be pleased with both, responded in unique ways with reasons, one being saying the prophet (SAW) is severely sick and the other swearing to never erase it.
So apparently now there is room for disobedience of RasulAllah (SAW) if it fits your narrative🤔, strange. I see shias saying the disobedience is everything, but clearly they are playing games.
According to you, "asking to be excused" is swearing to never do something in front of the person who commanded it being RasulAllah (SAW). Ofcourse we understand why he (RA) did, so we excuse him for his mistake.
But you can keep coping.
@@everythingandroidois yOu CaN kEeP cOpInG
Bro, you're the one seething so hard you're changing the words of YOUR OWN books because you can't accept having believed a lie your entire life.
You may need to argue about this to protect your brainwashed programming, but I don't. I'm too chill and at peace with my beliefs for that. So I'm off to cOpE about the whole thing now :)
@@africa241the fact you didn't respond to my rebuttals and just focused in on me telling you to cope and went on a rant about that and me "changing words" when I clearly gave my argument that it did not say "Omar said" but you ignored that because you got triggered shows me you are not sincere in this conversation.
One of the most famous atsar was when Umar refused to believe that Rasulullah has died and even threaten everyone from speaking so until Abu Bakr recited one ayah (Ali Imran : 144) to him and he accepted it. In some narration it was mentioned that after hearing that ayah, Umar fell to the ground.
In fact, he was so shocked. He directly went to saqifa without any care of the prophet's funeral. Cut the crap dude!!
May Allah sw bless you for exposing this Ashwagandhi guy.
🤡🤡 your boy ran away like umar in the discord
@@thelion2087 Umar never ran, but you know who did? your 12th Imam. Bro has been running for 1200+ years, scared and quivering in his little cave. Deliver this message from me, and tell him that the Abbasids are gone, so he can touch grass once more.
@@noface9375 lol imaginary 12th imam
@@noface9375 may your face squirm and disfigure upon his return
That is such a weak response. If the prophet asks for a pen and paper stating the importance of this, you will obviously do it. Whenever the prophet speaks, it is from allah and their is no suggestion of "let's wait until he is better" In some literature, he even says the proper has gone "Crazy". Umar has disrespected the prophet many times and introduced multiple innovations.
Text does not say Umar says he (SAW) is delarious. That is false.
What about when Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) refused to erase the title of RasulAllah (SAW) when it was commanded by RasulAllah (SAW), excuses, let's play your game of assuming the worst but I won't stoop that low.
@@everythingandroidois i am not sure what contradiction you have on imam Ali, can you expand ? No one ever called him rasul allah. He was the rightly chosen khalifa during ghadir khum by our Prophet (SAW) which can not be disputed. Many Hadith’s in your sunni literature point the prophet leaving behind the book of allah and his ahulbayt. Not Abu Bakr and Umar who went against the prophets will.
Lets not even go to Umar bringing wood to burn the house of the prophets (SAW) beloved daughter Fatimah El Zahra
@@everythingandroidoisand do you know the response Imam Ali gab the prophet and do you know what the Prophet said after and did it cause the companions to fight and get angry did it cause the Prophet to say remove yourselves from me well Gies what it didn’t so I want you trying to prove here
@@everythingandroidoisDid Imam Ali (a.s) prevent Rasool ULLAH (s) from erasing the title?? Your argument is weak and baseless. In the incident of Pen and Paper.. Prophet (s) was prevented from writing some important message which would have saved Ummah from misguidance.
he did deny it, it's in your books :shrug:
Quran 7:158 shows that Prophet a.s was UNLETTERED. How can an UNLETTERED person ask for paper & letter to write something. This hadith doesnt sound authentic to me.
Umar was from FIRST EMIGRANTS that Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100.
@@iMan-610The prophet (saw) was given the ability to read and write from Angel jibril
@@tawhidmedia2895mentioned where?
@@iMan-610 But he did tho lol!!
Then throw away Muslim and Bukhari and don't call them Sahih @@iMan-610
I am Shia, thank you Farid for creating this video, it just shows how you don’t have an actual defense
ما آتاكم الرسول فخذوه
Whatsoever the prophet gives you, you should take it
Also
ولا تقدموا بين يدي الله ورسوله
No one is allowed to have oppose the suggestion of the prophet
Keep providing such videos
5:49 comparing a sheikh to the greatest creation of Allah that is infallible and only speaks in wahi 53:4 is wild to me . They’ll do anything to protect umar ….
Wallahi this Hadith was a turning point for me. I was brought up into a Sunni household (Deoband school). After I read this Hadith in front of my own eyes from Bukhari (I still remember it vividly. It was Ramadan and I went to pray taraweeh at Shah Faisal Mosque back then in Islamabad, Pakistan. Went to the library and read that with my own eyes). From that day onward I am a proud follower of Ahlulbayt school of thought. Your arguments or repose to Ammar didn’t make any sense. The bottom line is that The last prophet of Allah (which do not speak form his own whims and desires, rather whatever the prophet says is from Allah) he was disobeyed. Umar Ibn Khattab et al., did not let prophet put his will to writing so ummah doesn’t go astray. And indeed, from that day onward, Muslims have strayed. What an unfortunate event, Ibn abbas says and cried while narrating this. That messenger of Allah was prevented from writing his will! Alas.
Seeing people like you reminds me of Christian converts 😂
ٱلْـحَـمْـدُ للهِ
Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
@@aksjcre8 Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Answer my questions so your admitting sayidna Ali ra refused an order of the prophet saas? It’s ok when sayidna Ali ra does it but when sayidna Umar ra does it it’s a problem. Do you know that sayidna Ali ra was in the room when all this was going on? Why didn’t he get involved and bring him the pen and paper? Did he also sin? Believe me if the the prophet saas wanted that pen and paper he would of got it. Do you know that the prophet saas was taken to the mimbar before he died to deliver a very important speech to the people so he had the chance to say anything he wanted to say on the mimbar which was the largest gathering of the sahaba if he wanted to deliver that message why wouldn’t he deliver it to the sahaba on that day? He even said Towards the end of his sermon, the Prophet asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assents "O Allah! yes!"arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma Na'm," rolled like thunder throughout the valley.
Do you believe there is anything missing from religion because of this Hadith that the prophet saas said bring me the pen and paper otherwise you will go astray? If you do your saying that Allah swt sent the prophet saas and couldn’t deliver his message to the people instead they ended up being astray so that means the prophet saas failed as a prophet in your eyes.
Bro some of these shia scholars are so clueless of arabic that if you gave them a title as Ibn Kalbi or Binti Haiwan they'd appreciate it.
Irani majoos
Why are you calling them scholars? These shias are nowhere near scholars, they're not even more knowledgeable than the christians and jews.
May. Allah SWT bless Farid. Without his help and Allah's guidance so many would have been lost. Alhamdulillah i had a few doubts regarding the hadith and the other statements of Ammar but Farid answered them all in other videos swell. Never stop doing this Farid and may Allah reward you the highest rank in Jannah and bless all you family.
Farid, bro. It seems that your voice is still getting recorded by your camera's microphone والله أعلم, make sure your actual microphone is selected.
How do you justify this??? It’s the PROPHET of GOD! What gives Umar the right to say “the Quran is sufficient”
Your infallible imam gave him the right to say that, Ali stood with Omar and refused to get the pen and paper.
@@abhmd4481 What a stupid counter argument. If anything, it goes to show how incredible Ali’s character is to not speak or take action unless the prophet of Allah permits him to. If Omar wasn’t a Kafir before that action he certainly was afterwards.
This pen and paper incident happened on Thursday. The Prophet (saw) died on Monday, 3 days later. Why didn't the Prophet (saw) mention this important thing in the 3 days he was alive?
I'm Sunni and I believe Umar (ra) made a mistake on the pen and paper incident. But I believe he had good intentions. Obviously Shias believe he had bad intentions
@@Harith112 so that today, people like you and I can use all this information 1400 years later to see the difference between Haq and Batil. I’m not going to generalize Sunnis as a whole but I think we can establish that when the prophet does or says anything it is all by the order of ALLAH. Disobeying the prophet is KUFR. Especially when the matter is so severe and regarding something that will help us “never go astray.” The truth is prevalent within your own books and you still make excuses. I pray for you on the day of judgement if you choose to ignore these matters, may Allah guide you and the rest who seek truth.
@@Harith112Even after a clear hadees from your books you are using your nonsense mind Because you don't want to say Umar wrong even if Prophet s.a.w said so
it doesn't matter if tarawee is haram or mutah is halal. So you watched the video but couldn't respond bcoz you follow the sunnah of omar 🤣🤣🤣
Sugar coating umar deeds
No need if it was so important prophet would have noted it
@@altamashbaibars9477 Why should he note anything if people like Umar are ready to refuse the order of Prophet Muhmmad SAW in the first place. He is not obliged to do things a second time if his orders are rejected the first time.
@@gr3en_jamfatima295 those who wanted him to write it also defied him by not giving pen and paper. It was a spontaneous decision prophet that would have noted it . He lived 3 more days.
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
@@samy7013 so instead of condemning Umars actions you want to not only throw our Prophet SAW under the bus by saying hes delerious but you Also want to drag Imam Ali (as) into the mess of what Umar created. The biggest proof for us is that already there were followers of Umar and another group agreed to bring a pen and paper, then according to the hadith the two groups started to quarrel. Then the Prophet SAW didn't thank Umar for anything he made Everyone leave! EVERYONE. So it does not matter What Imam Alis actions are next, he is obedient enough to listen to our Prophet Muhammad SAW. Since you want to talk about Ali (as) why not talk about Umar? All Umar could've litterally done was grab a pen and paper, but he had the audacity to tell the very man who brought the Quran In the first place that: "Quran is suffienct for us, you are ill." Don't scramble after what could've happened next. focus on the hadith.
Akhi, make a playlist for Shi'ism
Wait wait, we are meant to follow our leaders imams, caliphs and prophets. If he ask for pen and paper just give la!
I born and raise in a Sunni family in Bangladesh. We all are in historical trap. We never take other opinion when it goes against us. We set in our mind that we can not say anything about UMAR, BAKR , OSMAN. My whole life practice was wrong, my family`s whole life practice was wrong. Now, what the things that prevent me to accept the truth. I know it`s ego. But definitely accepting truth is better than hellfire. Imagine you are respecting someone who is definitely goes to hellfire and you are following his malpractice in Islam. Unfortunately 90% Muslim are same like me.
I expected a better reply smh
Another confusing video. You don't open a single book to defend the claims. Only what you think happened. I wonder why do people only mention Aisha and not khadija
Very good point. They love Aisha but never even mention Khadijah
Asalamu Alykum brothers. I just have a question. To my knowledge, the prophet was illiterate for his entire life. Did he learn to write at some point, or is the text referring to something else? I know that's besides the point, but this is new to me. Jazakumallah khair
Ws. He means dictate.
@FaridResponds Thank you, brother.
@@FaridRespondsThese are the exact words "Bring me a writing material so that I may write for you a document after which you will not go astray." Why you adding words on your own like the Scholars of Jews and Christians in order to lead people astray? The word "Ummi" used for the Prophet means "Unschooled (taught by nobody) " not illiterate, since nobody was of that stature to teach the Prophet except Allah, he could both read as well as write.
Last minute was bomb🤛😎🤜
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Amar is in the right. Farid, why are you making up excuses? Fear the day of judgement.
Those "as a Sunni" comments have big "as a black man" energy 😂😂
We believe at every junction of the prophet’s (saws) mission Ali (as) was there ,. And he glorified him,. And made an allusion that he was the successor,.
Starting with when he was mocked by his own family,. In the beginning of his mission,.
I get so excited every time Farid uploads Tabarkallah! You have greatly helped and educated me, Jazakallah Khair.
Side note: I absolutely hate how the Shia dude speaks, makes me cringe really hard 😭
Edit: Looks like all of these Shias took a huge dose of copium at Suhoor 🤣🤣🤣
Does the truth hurt ?is this why ?
Maybe opinions of farid are easier to digest than facts of sayed ammar
Off course you will hate how he speaks as it exposes your beliefs
@@mhmd1854no just his accent
Look at all the lairs in the comments
@@kingmosesix432 abu huraira tbh is a better liar and fabricator of hadith.
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem, I am a Muslim, and I follow Islam, and in the name of All mighty allah i declare that I am not shia, not sunni, not salafi, not kadiani, but I am Muslim.
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Who was he to decide that the Holy Prophet (SAW) is not capable of giving orders?
Did he think that All mighty Allah was not with him at that time? Did you think that????
Omar bin Khattab, on the other hand, was able to form a Shura committee to elect next Khalifa on his deathbed with serious injury, He was truly a mentally and physically super super super super strong person And according to your eye, of course Omar bin Khattab mentally and physically super super super super stronger person then the Holy Prophet (SAW), wasn't he???
May All mighty Allah protect me/us form Satan, Amin.
It was narrated from Ibn Mas’ud (radiyallahu ‘anhu) that Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said:
“If my Companions [Sahabah] are mentioned, then keep quiet, if the stars are mentioned [horoscopes/fortune telling], then keep quiet and if the divine decree [taqdir] is mentioned, then keep quiet.”
Leave fitnah and worry about yourself, Umar Ibn Khattab may Allah be pleased with him is one of the people mentioned by name of being the people of Jannah so focus on yourself and leave this fitnah of the shia and their false belief.
The prophet peace be upon him loved Abu Bakr, Umar, Ali and Uthman dearly.
We who come 1400+ years after should not be speculating on the intentions of pious companions of the prophet peace be upon him, they did what they thought was best for the prophet peace be upon him and not for power and it shows in their character and actions throughout their rulership.
"One day Umar (radiallahu anhu) saw a camel that was clearly either exhausted or ill. Umar approached the camel and inspected it, hoping to find out what was wrong with it. And as he looked closely at the camel, he continued to say, 'I am afraid that I will be questioned about you [on the day of resurrection].
At-Tabaqaat (3/215). "
may Allah guide us and protect us from the lies of the shayateen and the people of deviance.
@@Umar2O00 What happened on the deathbed of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and after his death is the most important test for the Muslims of that time and for me/us. In the name of Almighty Allah, I declare that I follow the teachings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and not Umar (RA) or his followers.
I seek refuge with Almighty Allah from the evil and harm of the person/persons who compare Umar (RA) with the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
The enemies (and their followers of present time) of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his beloved family are cursed for eternity, they are the worst, most hated, cursed people in this world.
May Almighty Allah protect me/us from Satan, Ameen.
@@advocatemohammadamjadhossa4151tell me you're a shi`i without telling me you're a shi`i
May Allaah guide you and snap you out of this slanderous talk. No Muslim in history would speak ill of the companions in this manner.
@@muxishine So, You are telling that the person who follows The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is Shia???
Are you comparing Omar (RA) with The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?????
Do you disagree that the enemy of The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is cursed forever?????
For you,
In the name of All mighty Allah I declare that I am a Muslim, and I am not Shia, not sunni, not salafi, not kadiani, not nokshabondi, not sufi, not muzaddidi, not ahale hadith, etc. but Only a Muslim, and I only follow the last Massager of Allah our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.
Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,
The Sovereign of mankind.
The God of mankind,
From the evil of the retreating whisperer -
Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind -
From among the jinn and mankind." Amin.
@@advocatemohammadamjadhossa4151 from what you've said already, it's clear that you're a deviant who has gone against over 1,400 years of scholarship. Simple. You're going against authentic hadith. The Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam guaranteed jannah to `Umar, and he said if there was to be a prophet after him it'd be `Umar, and said that when `Umar walks a path, the shaytaan goes another. But you're saying he was an enemy to the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam. May Allaah guide you and all those like you.
I grew up in a Shia family...and I was never interested in Islam. When I was young up until my mid 20s...that's all I knew...Shiaism. The month of crying...all the hatred for someone 1400 years ago (at the time I didn't know who these people were). All this crying and hatred didn't appeal to me at all. Later in my life I discovered the true Islam...the Islam that is growing incredibly fast. Alhamdulillah.
If he asks for a pen , simple give him , but umar dint give him , the reality is because he was affraid prophet will write Ali's name as his successor stop giving illogical excuses.
Surprise for you: Sayyidna Ali (RAA) agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), since if Sayyidna Ali (RAA) thought that bringing pen and parchment was the right thing to do, no one on earth would have been able to stop him. Don’t forget that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) was one of Rasool Allah’s ﷺ scribes, he also lived _literally_ in the next room over, and could have grabbed a pen, some ink, and parchment _literally_ by walking just a few paces to the very next door over (his own home), grabbing these things, and coming back within less than 30 seconds. The fact that Sayyidna Ali (RAA) didn’t bother to do that, is proof of how he agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and followed his lead without any pushback whatsoever.
The Hadith of Raziyyat al-Khamees is actually a proof of Sayyidna Umar’s (RAA) virtue, and in the hadith there is proof that Rasool Allah Muhammad ﷺ agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), and Sayyidna Ali (RAA) did not disagree with Sayyidna Umar (RAA) either. The proof is that Rasool Allah ﷺ was promised protection by Allah in all matters relating to relaying the Prophetic message, yet he chose to abstain from writing or relaying anything verbally, other than giving a minor rebuke to the Companions for their breach of protocol in arguing in front of the Prophet ﷺ. (A breach that they can be forgiven for under the circumstances, since none had been in that situation before, with a beloved Prophet experiencing intense pains of a final illness.) So the Prophet ﷺ delivered a rebuke for a minor breach, yet are we supposed to believe that he’d exert the effort to do that, but ignore a bigger breach and let that go without rebuke? As for Sayyidna Ali (RAA), if he thought that the right thing to do was to bring pen and parchment (he was one of the Prophet’s ﷺ scribes), no one on this earth would have been able to stop him from bringing it. And finally, Rasool Allah ﷺ must have agreed with Sayyidna Umar (RAA), once he heard the latter say those magnificent words of his about the Noble Qur'an being our guide. Why? because Rasool Allah ﷺ did not contradict or correct him, and even dismissed everyone from his presence, now that he knew that at least Sayyidna Umar (RAA) was on the correct path, and could help guide the rest of the Ummah. Plus, we already know that Rasool Allah's "ismaat al-tabligh" rendered it absolutely impossible for anyone on Earth to prevent him from relaying the message. And finally, we know that Rasool Allah ﷺ only passed away several days later, and relayed multiple instructions to be carried out after his death, and never bothered to revisit this issue, since it was already apparent that there was no need for it.
Thank you for the video. Hope you make more videos on shia especially during ramadan . May Allah bless you
Farid bro . Give it up nothing makes sense u said . 😂