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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
  • Next into The Den is the Dutch designer and founder, Robert Milder, he's pitching Van De Sant's, a designer of sustainable furniture made from ocean-bound plastics, but which Dragon can snag the deal?
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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  • @DragonsDenGlobal
    @DragonsDenGlobal  Před 2 lety +70

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  • @user-lq5bh7qo3m
    @user-lq5bh7qo3m Před 3 lety +8491

    Jenny actually has a very consistent portfolio, it's empty

  • @kajtekbezmajtek
    @kajtekbezmajtek Před 3 lety +8034

    Now I'm starting to belive Jenny is there solely for that free glass of water.

    • @ikeafrica
      @ikeafrica Před 3 lety +38

      Lol

    • @johnchristiandiaz8026
      @johnchristiandiaz8026 Před 3 lety +94

      I died with this comment 😂

    • @a_leksus8427
      @a_leksus8427 Před 3 lety +46

      Best comment I read today 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Reck46
      @Reck46 Před 3 lety +19

      She had to pay for the glass

    • @ileolai
      @ileolai Před 3 lety +44

      imagine copy/pasting the same joke that's on every video and thinking you're clever

  • @Celestias
    @Celestias Před 2 lety +688

    Jenny: "Your pitch was perfect, and for that reason, I'm out."

  • @nicholaslaines2702
    @nicholaslaines2702 Před 2 lety +871

    I love how when Jenny goes "it doesn't quite fit with my portfolio at the moment" the camera immediately cuts to the other dragons looking at her like they want to make a comment about her portfolio but aren't aloud to do so on camera.

    • @rajivvekaria638
      @rajivvekaria638 Před 2 lety +31

      Lmaooo i just noticed this and its spot on...their faces were like 'da fuq?'

    • @welcome2wyzard
      @welcome2wyzard Před rokem +9

      What portfolio?

    • @HT_Ray
      @HT_Ray Před rokem +1

      Epic

    • @Ron.S.
      @Ron.S. Před rokem +3

      They can do it quietly though 😉 that’s allowed

    • @j1g2w3
      @j1g2w3 Před 4 měsíci +2

      And the narrator completely deadpan: "A surprising setback for the entrepreneur."

  • @handbanana4899
    @handbanana4899 Před 3 lety +4815

    You know your pitch is going good when:
    1. Jenny praises it but also declares herself out
    2. The other Dragons start describing their own backgrounds to you

    • @HumanSagaVault
      @HumanSagaVault Před 3 lety +54

      I disagree i think the best way to know you did well is actually to have jenny make an offer.

    • @praveeshachapman677
      @praveeshachapman677 Před 3 lety +109

      @@HumanSagaVault that's impossible though😂

    • @mrdenchx
      @mrdenchx Před 2 lety +60

      K G if Jenny made an offer I’d have to say sorry Jenny I can’t accept 😂

    • @hamishfernando7570
      @hamishfernando7570 Před 2 lety +87

      @@mrdenchx there was one episode where Jenny was the only one who made an offer and the entrepreneur said no 😂

    • @mrdenchx
      @mrdenchx Před 2 lety +2

      Hamish Fernando good on them, she doesn’t deserve any business 😂😂

  • @advancedape9791
    @advancedape9791 Před 3 lety +2584

    Jenny: “This business is like Amazon in 2003, but it’s not for me. It doesn’t fit my portfolio of bullshit.”

    • @carlhamilton8531
      @carlhamilton8531 Před 3 lety +22

      Totally agree lol

    • @3lysium1
      @3lysium1 Před 3 lety +57

      So glad the Jenny jokes persist, best thing about DD on CZcams 😂

    • @yblackie
      @yblackie Před 3 lety +2

      Okay, it's getting a little harsh now 😂

    • @3lysium1
      @3lysium1 Před 3 lety +13

      @@yblackie because it’s so accurate?

    • @-Susheemonster-
      @-Susheemonster- Před 3 lety +5

      Lmfao.

  • @Mut11
    @Mut11 Před 2 lety +296

    The guy is literally making a million per year
    Jenny: YoU HaVe SoMeThInG HeRe.

  • @Chrissmills
    @Chrissmills Před 2 lety +300

    He severely undervalued his company. He had 1M turnover and 400k profit last year and only valued his company at 500k. Also had 500k cash in the bank, can’t believe they even tried to negotiate the percentage with him 🤯

    • @styrojeff
      @styrojeff Před rokem +34

      It’s covered in the episode. It’s not about the cash infusion, it’s about the sponsorship, promotion, and acceleration

    • @tvanced8583
      @tvanced8583 Před rokem +29

      I think Peter half jokingly played into his Freudian slip. But yeah even with the argument of having a dragons expertise and connection he certainly undervalued his own company.

    • @michaeljacobs6151
      @michaeljacobs6151 Před rokem

      It's a one hit wonder

    • @ZazooEel57
      @ZazooEel57 Před 9 měsíci

      Because he is not looking for investment, he is looking for partnership, and that is not about the valuation.

    • @robertharvey6030
      @robertharvey6030 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Straight up equity investment "silent partner" "Angel investor" putting up money with no input would be appropriate to go on actual market value on a company. However when you are investing and also providing resources time and effort, a dragon actually provides a lot of worth and value so that naturally gets priced in to the deal.
      You could own 100% of a small pond worth £2000 current value, but own 80% of an ocean valued at £1,000,000 what would you rather have? This is what a lot of entrepreneurs forget when they walk away from a deal. Sometimes they are right to, but sometimes I think some may think in hindsight wish they took the deal.

  • @mof5ive52
    @mof5ive52 Před 3 lety +2680

    The dragons were pitching to him. One of the best episodes to date.

    • @LuisLopez-om8zr
      @LuisLopez-om8zr Před 3 lety +100

      Very interesting to see them do that. Almost like they were interviewing for a job.

    • @neomalapane983
      @neomalapane983 Před 3 lety +76

      Deborah's reaction in the end is box office viewing...Wow!

    • @mof5ive52
      @mof5ive52 Před 3 lety +44

      @@neomalapane983 the end was so unexpected.

    • @nicg1883
      @nicg1883 Před 3 lety +11

      Yeah, really entertaining

    • @danishmueen
      @danishmueen Před 3 lety +33

      This was the best episode I’ve ever watched, fully content as the dragons were on their knees, almost begging him to accept them 😂💜💜

  • @pjhogan2309
    @pjhogan2309 Před 3 lety +1451

    Entrepreneur: I want to give you 1 million pound.
    Jenny: I'm out

    • @jamiemakdad5918
      @jamiemakdad5918 Před 2 lety +2

      😅😅😅

    • @dy2cakc1
      @dy2cakc1 Před 2 lety +6

      Best comment across all of Dragon's Den so far.

    • @thefactsjournal340
      @thefactsjournal340 Před 2 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @conbro0985
      @conbro0985 Před 2 lety +4

      McDonald’s employee: that will be £5.68
      Jenny: I’m gonna have to say I’m out
      (Walks out door)

    • @MistyRosyis5dg
      @MistyRosyis5dg Před měsícem

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DrMcMoist
    @DrMcMoist Před 2 lety +565

    Deborah is actually a fantastic dragon. I also get the feeling that to have her on side on a project she is passionate about would be incredibly beneficial.

    • @otocan
      @otocan Před 2 lety +41

      The more I watch this show, the more I respect her. Less ego than the others and she actually offers reasonable deals to invest in things she's passionate about.

    • @khandadonb111
      @khandadonb111 Před 2 lety +9

      @@otocan she actually has a huge ego tbh

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend Před rokem

      It doesn't come across like that at all

    • @machosalad123
      @machosalad123 Před rokem +2

      This deal never went through for some reason.

    • @tvanced8583
      @tvanced8583 Před rokem

      @@khandadonb111 That's not always a disadvantage in business. But you damn well have to know how to control it.

  • @tychophotiou6962
    @tychophotiou6962 Před 2 lety +100

    When Jenny said she loves it and it ticks lots of boxes I thought "Are we all going to get a major shock here?" but she stayed in character and went out!

  • @seveshilongo3789
    @seveshilongo3789 Před 3 lety +1794

    The moment he said 25% in the beginning they knew that he was willing to negotiate from 15 to 25

  • @calbrown5252
    @calbrown5252 Před 3 lety +688

    "It doesn't fit with my portfolio"
    Jenny
    - Portfolio
    - empty

  • @Nero-ox5tw
    @Nero-ox5tw Před 2 lety +72

    Jenny: I have a portfolio. It goes to another school, you won't know it.

  • @Crimsontears95
    @Crimsontears95 Před rokem +53

    I’ve never seen deborah so happy and excited like that before 😂 she seemed genuinely into this

    • @ZazooEel57
      @ZazooEel57 Před 9 měsíci +1

      She was also very excited for one of the construction products she invested in. I can't remember which one it was, but its an old video.

    • @annaagapova3583
      @annaagapova3583 Před měsícem

      She's always like this when she's chosen over Peter.

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Před 3 lety +1104

    Jenny: It's a great product, I do like it. Therefore I'm out

  • @salvaahthesageofficial2457
    @salvaahthesageofficial2457 Před 3 lety +1818

    This was one of the most investable businesses to ever come in the Den, yet Jenny still didn't invest
    Margins were great, the market potential is huge, plenty of cash in the business bank account yet she gives a odd excuse regarding her imaginary portfolio....Wow

    • @michelemariotti8198
      @michelemariotti8198 Před 3 lety +13

      Insane man

    • @olaseindeloveth2394
      @olaseindeloveth2394 Před 3 lety +29

      She amaze me every single time !

    • @diannekeightley9443
      @diannekeightley9443 Před 3 lety +8

      Replace her.

    • @kamma44
      @kamma44 Před 3 lety +77

      I think what it was is that she didn't have the expertise or contacts to actually help the guy?!
      I'm sure she could afford the 70K but the business didn't really need the cash. What it needed was the help and know-how of a real dragon?!

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 Před 3 lety +46

      She's a banker what part of that don't u understand, she has a mindset of a banker not a business woman, she's actually very wealthy. But she just wants quick sales maximum profit

  • @donjoe2661
    @donjoe2661 Před 2 lety +116

    The more I get to know Deborah the more I like her. She's very straight forward and genuine.

  • @carterwilliamowen5016
    @carterwilliamowen5016 Před 2 lety +317

    I had an accident and broke my leg, I have spent all my money on hospital bills and I can't walk for now.. so I really want to make money for myself why I'm at home resting my legs

    • @lilianhazel2520
      @lilianhazel2520 Před 2 lety

      Hi, I have a question. I've been trading for a while now only on a demo account until I feel like I can progress to an actual account, at what time of my trading career can I safely say that my positive trades aren't just luck, but I actually know what I am doing?

    • @charlesryananthony3082
      @charlesryananthony3082 Před 2 lety

      Bitcoin is the future, investing in it now will be the wisest thing to do, especially with the current rise

    • @davidaiden9637
      @davidaiden9637 Před 2 lety

      Can i start with $3,500

    • @noraeleanor1616
      @noraeleanor1616 Před 2 lety

      @@davidaiden9637 Mr Dylan J Mason can be of help

    • @stanleyhill367
      @stanleyhill367 Před 2 lety

      A friend that I erred to Mr Dylan J Mason just received $7,050 profit after 15 days of investing....I became jealous.. lol

  • @footsurecow6906
    @footsurecow6906 Před 3 lety +1778

    This is actually Jenny’s best ‘I’m out’ ever, literally nothing bad to say about it but she was still out 😂

    • @iarland9693
      @iarland9693 Před 3 lety +153

      I know it was priceless. Practically pitched herself to him and then went out. Classic Jenny.

    • @tomrodwell9911
      @tomrodwell9911 Před 3 lety +141

      She's a weirdo that shouldn't have been on the show, Duncan didn't invest but at least he was hilarious

    • @andrewstubbs822
      @andrewstubbs822 Před 3 lety

      @@tomrodwell9911 Very true!

    • @sloppynyuszi
      @sloppynyuszi Před 3 lety +43

      @@tomrodwell9911 I’ve seen him invest tho. Only Dragon I’ve never seen invest was Kelly Hopper, and not only not invest, but even make an offer. Just some smug remark at why she doesn’t see value in a business. She was worse than Jenny. I’ve seen Jenny invest at least once

    • @andrewstubbs822
      @andrewstubbs822 Před 3 lety +11

      "Best 'I'm out' ever." 🤣🤣🤣

  • @deimantas6937
    @deimantas6937 Před 3 lety +566

    loosing jenny as a first dragon is not set backing at all, its a blessing, she was out before the episode started anyway

    • @simbae170
      @simbae170 Před 2 lety +2

      hahahaha. out before the episode

    • @jackhoward10
      @jackhoward10 Před 2 lety +2

      Good business woman, terrible investor

  • @-danohare1706
    @-danohare1706 Před 2 lety +25

    Jenny: Here's a lot of reasons why this business is completely worth investing in but I'm out

  • @sunnyD301
    @sunnyD301 Před 2 lety +19

    To take the 15 and not 20 for two dragons makes me think he knows exactly what he wants instead of getting a second dragon for the sake of it. Fair play

  • @vashna3799
    @vashna3799 Před 3 lety +1109

    Oh boy, was Peter pissed off with losing out. Debra’s eco credentials won her the deal.

    • @redrobiin
      @redrobiin Před 3 lety +99

      Debbie offered 15% of the asking price from this man, It is that, that won the deal.

    • @bluerock9238
      @bluerock9238 Před 3 lety +139

      Not more than Touker being pissed when Peter chose Deborah as a partner.....

    • @HomeofGaming
      @HomeofGaming Před 3 lety +36

      I really think peter would have invested with debra and gone lower he seemed really pissed the margins are absolutely crazy and the money business needs is already there.

    • @theantiauthoritarian.1540
      @theantiauthoritarian.1540 Před 3 lety +63

      Rightly so, good deal but can't understand why he didn't take Peter/ Debra combo 🤔. For 5% he would have doubled his output faster =££s🙂

    • @marcusson1983
      @marcusson1983 Před 3 lety +48

      @@theantiauthoritarian.1540 makes sense, but he got exactly what he asked for with dragon who valued him with background of recycling bussinesses

  • @lozz0dnb
    @lozz0dnb Před 3 lety +654

    Everyone does the Jenny im out jokes every video, but she really took this piss on this one

    • @arshad887
      @arshad887 Před 2 lety +27

      because the joke, unlike her, is never out

    • @curtislees2833
      @curtislees2833 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah it was wierd there is clearly a market for overpriced furniture

    • @huskiehuskerson5300
      @huskiehuskerson5300 Před 2 lety

      @@curtislees2833 there is

  • @SuigaRou
    @SuigaRou Před rokem +78

    I've been binging episodes of Dragon's Den, wondering if I'll ever find an episode where Jenny makes an offer. It's like looking for water in a desert, and this episode was a mirage.

    • @AviG789
      @AviG789 Před rokem +1

      Found the rare gem, it's the ice cream episode

    • @margaretmcgarry1300
      @margaretmcgarry1300 Před rokem +1

      Why is she even there

    • @katec9893
      @katec9893 Před rokem +5

      I've seen two where she makes an offer then withdraws it after the entrepreneur didn't immediately accept her offer and continued to talk to the other dragons.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Před 11 dny +1

      According to Wikipedia, Jenny actually makes a slightly above-average number of investments -- an average of 0.41 investments per episode, when the average is 0.38. Duncan Bannatyne only made 0.33 investments per episode and nobody complains about him. But I think that what skews perception of Jenny is that, in her first series, she made 9 investments but in her second series, she only made three investments across 15 episodes.
      I'd be interested to see stats on how many offers Jenny makes. I also have the perception that she makes very few offers, so I suspect that she has a very high proportion of her offers accepted. Conversely, Peter and Deborah seem to make an offer on almost every competent business, but their investments per episode are 0.45 and 0.48, which is higher than Jenny's, but not by a huge margin.

  • @chrisbroadhurst3039
    @chrisbroadhurst3039 Před 2 lety +121

    Amazed he didn't take the offer to have Peter on board too. For the sake of 5% extra I feel Peter could have added a huge amount of value. But good luck to the guy!

    • @mikael7071
      @mikael7071 Před rokem +22

      Agree was a no brainer he offered free services within the deal that would have been a logistical dream come true

    • @gerz667
      @gerz667 Před rokem +3

      maybe he himself didn't own that much of the company that's why he didn't accept to lose more percentage.

    • @katec9893
      @katec9893 Před rokem +8

      Yes the combination of Deborah and Peter would have been perfect for this business, I was surprised he didn't take that.

    • @sj-red
      @sj-red Před 11 měsíci +3

      The offer he pitched was fair. He stated the business had £500k in the bank, with a revenue of £1m and a profit of £400k. I believe Peter was just being greedy, the business is worth more than £350k.

  • @surface4985
    @surface4985 Před 3 lety +809

    Jenny: "I'm not going to make you an offer today".
    Evan Davis: "A surprising setback for the entrepreneur".
    Joe Public: "Nothing surprising about that".

  • @adm_ackbar4899
    @adm_ackbar4899 Před 3 lety +1481

    Debra’s seemed so genuinely happy about her deal being accepted it that it put a smile on my face.

    • @BleachRush
      @BleachRush Před 3 lety +43

      I will be happy if I was able to secure a profitable business with great margins too.

    • @jayhuda7524
      @jayhuda7524 Před 2 lety +9

      it almost seemed like a fight for ego at that point, must've given her a boost of confidence

    • @VivekTiwari03
      @VivekTiwari03 Před 2 lety +15

      Its kinda anti climatic but the deal eventually fell through because he lied about the profit margins

    • @yasin6904
      @yasin6904 Před 2 lety +10

      @@VivekTiwari03 where did you read that? I've had a quick Google but couldn't find this info/update?

    • @thiswasposted120
      @thiswasposted120 Před 2 lety +15

      @@VivekTiwari03 source: just trust me

  • @Starlight-iw9gx
    @Starlight-iw9gx Před 2 lety +198

    This just clearly demonstrates Deborah's authenticity, honesty, pure heart and genuine care for the environment. She didn't try to 'pull the wool over his eyes', she was just very honest. And she cares more about cleaning up the environment than having a bigger chunk in equity. I'm so happy for him and her. Having said this, if I was the dude, I would have actually accepted Peter + Deborah. With both of them together, it would have propelled this business further and much quicker... - just for the sake of another 10% equity. It doesn't really matter, they're all going to become rich out of it, anyway...

    • @necromancer_eatmypantzer
      @necromancer_eatmypantzer Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah I agree. Especially if he's offering essential supply chain services for free. Would have been a nice decrease in overhead. I don't know how much that usually costs though :p

    • @ChromeEnergyDrink
      @ChromeEnergyDrink Před 2 lety +13

      I agree! Deborah was so genuinely pleased it was heartwarming. I definitely would have had Peter involved though for an extra 5%. I’m sure having him on board too would have more than covered that 5% in extra revenue produced. He for some reason just decided to ignore Peters BOGOF offer!

    • @turloughkennedy6579
      @turloughkennedy6579 Před rokem +3

      Exactly. He still chose well though

    • @basstrammel1322
      @basstrammel1322 Před rokem

      @@ChromeEnergyDrink Not everyone manage to keep their cool in such a stressful situation, so he might have accepted Pete and Deb in a more professional setting.

    • @Aanu_B
      @Aanu_B Před rokem +1

      Valid reasoning.
      But also consider that his business was already quite profitable at that point. Why lose an extra 5% when someone is already offering what you asked for.

  • @langursingh7066
    @langursingh7066 Před 2 lety +30

    Even other dragons were shocked when Jenny said I'm out after praising the product as she did 😂

    • @bruce3242
      @bruce3242 Před rokem

      Reminds me a bit of Gordon Ramsey

  • @blazzz13
    @blazzz13 Před 3 lety +654

    Imagine being grilled by Jenny when you know she's just going to say "I'm out". Maybe entrepreneurs shold just say "thank you for your questions Jenny, but you're out".

  • @Whatismyname146
    @Whatismyname146 Před 3 lety +252

    Entpreneur: Would any dragons work together?
    All dragons: Yes
    Entrepeneur: Thats nice

    • @johneloliquino2782
      @johneloliquino2782 Před 3 lety +14

      Jenny: I'm out

    • @user-ys7ur5em1k
      @user-ys7ur5em1k Před 3 lety +6

      Lol He was funny how he just went with the one dragon. After all she did offer what he asked for..

  • @smoothness69
    @smoothness69 Před 2 lety +6

    As an American, this is my first Dragon's Den viewing. It is so different than our similar show, Shark Tank.
    In Dragon's Den:
    1. No one interrupts anyone
    2. The dragons are able to take a turn to get their offer out
    3. No one rushes the guy to make a decision on which offer to choose
    4. No one makes any jokes :(
    5. The dragons don't ask very many questions

    • @csabraxas
      @csabraxas Před 2 lety +1

      I cant watch Shark tank because of the arguing amongst investors.

    • @tiberiushazo6326
      @tiberiushazo6326 Před rokem +2

      I absolutely hate that about Shark Tank. They're always always ALWAYS rushing them to accept the offer or not. It's so frustrating. Especially freaking Kevin.

  • @roccoxxxx1
    @roccoxxxx1 Před 2 lety +16

    "This is a great product, you are great, everything is perfect, but I'm Jenny..."

  • @LStrings
    @LStrings Před 3 lety +732

    To be honest 75k for 15% is a steal for a business making 400k profit with 500k in a bank

    • @OakApplegardens
      @OakApplegardens Před 3 lety +14

      I'd have had that one. 100k for 15% . He knows what hes on about.

    • @alanparana6899
      @alanparana6899 Před 3 lety +3

      @The Most Secure Election in History I thought, or at least here in the US, it’s 8x-10x

    • @hlstrm
      @hlstrm Před 3 lety +91

      Peter offering 70k for 25% is straight up offensive! How can you value a business that has $1mm in sales, 400k in profit, and 500k in the bank at less than 300k?! Greedy dick move by pizza Jones

    • @alanparana6899
      @alanparana6899 Před 3 lety

      @The Most Secure Election in History it must change for each industry. I know it’s around that in healthcare

    • @spyk_316
      @spyk_316 Před 3 lety +2

      @The Most Secure Election in History How would you not see a return for a decade if you value the company 8-10x times the net profit? Genuinely asking. Why would a company not grow 8-10x times in 2-3 years?

  • @-scieng-6592
    @-scieng-6592 Před 3 lety +245

    Entrepreneur accidentally offers 25%. Peter Jones 8 minutes later says "I want 25%".

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 Před 3 lety +14

      I think Peter thought he slipped up on the maximum he can give, because people do come on dragons den with a limit they are willing to give away, so Peter was like heck let's go for the maximum he can go to and see what happens 🤣

    • @InTheCash
      @InTheCash Před 2 lety +12

      It was a trick. He did that because he knew some dragons would automatically go for that “maximum” and his business was very investable. Then the other dragons would have to go lower ultimately to what he wanted, negotiation is a game of chess, he let them think they had the upper hand…

  • @wy4553
    @wy4553 Před 2 lety +15

    I think he could've absolutely negotiated with Peter + Deborah for a lower percentage, like 17% and they still would've agreed to it. I've never seen a dragon be SO happy when their offer gets accepted.

  • @MaxBeech
    @MaxBeech Před 2 lety +7

    That dude is just the coolest guy I’ve ever seen.

  • @laurenjwolf
    @laurenjwolf Před 3 lety +511

    I love this guy, he went with his heart and Deborahs ethics over Mr money bags. Peter's face at the end, loooooool.

    • @miles3101
      @miles3101 Před 3 lety +18

      It's not just "his heart", Every dragon wanted to be the investor, and in cases like these it's not unlikely that dragons are opposed to share (Peter being the oldest is the one with the most examples), so Deborah went with the best deal for a free-for-all, even if it was at a loss for her (since she COULD have matched Tej's instead of dropping lower).
      However, when Peter said he was willing to share 10/10 with her for half the money, she accepted because it's a better investment. Their matchup I feel was better than Tej and Touker, but even the double dragon for 20% wasn't as good as the original offer he came into the den for.

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 Před 3 lety

      Lauren Ur beautiful 😍

    • @Fuckethead
      @Fuckethead Před 3 lety +36

      @@thealien_ali3382 smooth, mate

    • @arshilahmad9811
      @arshilahmad9811 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Fuckethead 😂

    • @JanahanBalasingham
      @JanahanBalasingham Před 2 lety +11

      @@miles3101 But didn't he lose Peter as a potential customer? If he had taken the double dragon deal with Peter and Deborah, he could have made a lot of sales from Peter who has a lot of offices where the furniture would be purchased for. Not to mention the free of charge services Peter was offering.

  • @missscousemouth82
    @missscousemouth82 Před 3 lety +322

    I love Deborahs passion for the ethical businesses, she was 100% the right dragon for this.

    • @da3v1ls93
      @da3v1ls93 Před 10 měsíci +6

      True but I would have added 5% for Peter

  • @ianluzdub
    @ianluzdub Před 2 lety +16

    Here in Brazil we have our own Jenny. She is called Cris. Regardless of the pitch, valuation, offer, or whatever anyone throws at them, she'll be out. Always. I've never seen her making an offer. 😂

  • @adz4681
    @adz4681 Před 3 lety +370

    The only portfolio Jenny builds is coming into the den for a free drink and only being able to say 2 words

    • @sarahreynolds6805
      @sarahreynolds6805 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes, her eyes sparkled with the gin pitch....what I hate about this is the guy at the start, a voice over is enough

    • @shawnvalerio6836
      @shawnvalerio6836 Před 3 lety +1

      Let’s not forget being the massage lady when the need arise.

    • @lindyloo690
      @lindyloo690 Před 2 lety +1

      @@shawnvalerio6836 she cracked me up when she did that 😂

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Před 2 lety +2

      3

  • @edwindsouza8816
    @edwindsouza8816 Před 3 lety +352

    Watching this half-asleep, heard Jenny's compliments and sat up straight immediately thinking 'a wow moment - Jenny is going to make an offer'......you know the rest.

  • @hyocca
    @hyocca Před 2 lety +12

    Deb was straight forward and transparent with what she could provide, that's probably why this smart lad choose her.

  • @rapjoy2637
    @rapjoy2637 Před 2 lety +6

    I just love the presenter "even this ultra laidback Dutch man is feeling the pressure "🤣😅😂

  • @sirbee7479
    @sirbee7479 Před 3 lety +104

    I like how shocked they all was when he accepted Debra's offer and then Peter trying to laugh it off then realised he lost sulking haha

  • @imranasghar8690
    @imranasghar8690 Před 3 lety +122

    I love it when Jenny makes an offer and Tej begins smirking because he knows what's she's going to do

  • @irishwristwatch2487
    @irishwristwatch2487 Před 2 lety +21

    I cant see why he didnt go for the Deborah/Peter split? That would have been a massive tour de force. Guy had a great product tho, I dont think the man himself expected it to go that well!

    • @redeye789852
      @redeye789852 Před 2 lety +6

      It is because Peter is the wrong partner. He really only sees the recyclable as branding play but its actually a recycling play that happens to make money. There will be times when Robert will compromise profit for sustainability and Deborah who is already deep in that space would be easier to communicate that with.

    • @irishwristwatch2487
      @irishwristwatch2487 Před 2 lety +3

      @@redeye789852 fair point I hadn't considered actually

    • @Josefsson9013
      @Josefsson9013 Před 2 lety

      @@redeye789852 What about the other split, that sounded good right? Go international and have manufacturing, but i don't know anything about those 2 guys, first time i see them i think

    • @rodhuy01
      @rodhuy01 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree. He made a big mistake. Peter would have got him far greater distribution and market presence than Deborah could as she freely admitted. Peter is by far the richest and most successful dragon Deborah is very pragmatic and down to earth. so why not partener with then both? He skimped on just 5 % more. That could be in the millions lost.

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 Před rokem

      Sometimes 3 is a crowd.

  • @impulse983
    @impulse983 Před 2 lety +6

    His response “a lot of testing and a lot of money I believe” was the best response I’ve heard

  • @AlanHope2013
    @AlanHope2013 Před 3 lety +59

    Peter's ears went up what Robert said 25% in his intro. He knows that was the real ceiling, despite the 15% offer.

  • @BLMeredith87
    @BLMeredith87 Před 3 lety +124

    Deborah being "eco-conscious" sounds like she's on power-saving mode

  • @AdamBechtol
    @AdamBechtol Před 2 lety +16

    Yayyy, I'm so delighted when Deborah is happy to have gotten an offer. This is the happiest I've seen her.

  • @vjdfl5
    @vjdfl5 Před 9 měsíci +2

    My jaw was legit on the floor when I thought Jenny was going to make an offer. How could I be so dumb

  • @alexreid4131
    @alexreid4131 Před 3 lety +107

    Jenny Campbell: “It doesn’t fit with the portfolio that I don’t have.”

  • @diggerpete9334
    @diggerpete9334 Před 3 lety +50

    Jenny: "I am not going to make you an offer today." She means including tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, lifetime.

  • @Sonny984
    @Sonny984 Před rokem +16

    I feel for Tej man he’s like the ghost in a group chat that never says anything and when he does it’s a shock. 😂

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 4 měsíci

      He just peddles quack remedies. Worthless in my book.

  • @wy4553
    @wy4553 Před 2 lety +1

    10:52 That moment of genuine glee immediately followed by trying to keep his cool LOL

  • @Voicist
    @Voicist Před 3 lety +174

    It's nice that they've gotten Hans Zimmer to score Dragon's Den...

    • @jacob28597
      @jacob28597 Před 3 lety +2

      best comment I've seen on yt for years

    • @joforrest1
      @joforrest1 Před 3 lety +2

      It is Hans Zimmer .... not Zimmerman

    • @TheSAINTWARRIOR
      @TheSAINTWARRIOR Před 3 lety

      It's Hans Zimmer and it''s not even close to him.

    • @Voicist
      @Voicist Před 3 lety +11

      @@TheSAINTWARRIOR I've corrected the spelling mistake ... the rest was just a joke to highlight how dramatic the music was. I am, of course, not suggesting that this compares to the work of Hans Zimmer. It was a joke.

    • @defundhollywood3259
      @defundhollywood3259 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Voicist Listen, I don't come to CZcams comment sections for jokes, I come here to correct people's spelling. Your comment checks out. 🔠✅💯

  • @sexyhomeowner9345
    @sexyhomeowner9345 Před 3 lety +40

    Deborah's joy is so infectious.

  • @lwc3648
    @lwc3648 Před 2 lety +8

    Producers: "Jenny, fancy starring as a Dragon?"
    Jenny: "I'm Out"

  • @DocRealTalk
    @DocRealTalk Před 2 lety

    The music when Peter was speaking and making his offer was too funny.
    Too EPIC xD

  • @blaisekeen
    @blaisekeen Před 3 lety +219

    He knew what he was doing when he "mistakenly" said 25% at the beginning. It was a test of the dragons to see which one was more interested in the money Vs the ethics. The 15% he offered is clearly a good deal anyway so for a dragon to take more means they 're motivated by greed. I think Debra saw this and showed her ethics by respecting his offer

    • @notxirc8359
      @notxirc8359 Před 2 lety +21

      Or he picked deborah because deborah offered exactly what he wanted?🤷

    • @xJMxDare
      @xJMxDare Před 2 lety +4

      or maybe it was a play on his subconscious, he was prepared to accept 25% if offered but let it slip at the start and peter capitalized.

    • @Izziana
      @Izziana Před 2 lety +9

      People dont become as rich as the dragons if their prime motivator isnt greed.

    • @capraininsano1060
      @capraininsano1060 Před 2 lety +2

      Deborah offered 15% cause she can't match what the other dragons have to offer 🤣 other dragons have all the expertise hence them asking for more peter would of had this business booming and is worth the extra 10% you pay for what he brings to the table

    • @iwatchwithnoads7480
      @iwatchwithnoads7480 Před 2 lety +5

      @@notxirc8359 tbh Peter offered way more than what he could hope for. Free warehousing and distribution in a new country? Promise of brand advertising in another dragon's businesses? Those were definitely worth the 5% extra.

  • @salamadestron
    @salamadestron Před 3 lety +68

    Jenny: You have a business with proven profitability that every other dragon in this den is willing to invest in at or close to the terms you have offered. Because of how valuable and rare an opportunity this is for any investor to stumble across ....I’m out.

  • @mattske5286
    @mattske5286 Před 2 lety +5

    This man's choice of 🐲 ultimately came from his passion for a better world rather than to fill his pockets. Wise decision all the best...

  • @heather77
    @heather77 Před 2 lety +9

    Who would've thought businesses would be so into buying recycled furniture that costs double the price 🤔. Great episode watching the dragons squirm for once 🤣

  • @thatgirlmykel
    @thatgirlmykel Před 3 lety +53

    I loved deborah’s reaction so cute haha

  • @aburntnugget
    @aburntnugget Před 3 lety +31

    „Don’t fight guys“ just made my day 😂😂😂

  • @sandrajovic9078
    @sandrajovic9078 Před 2 lety +2

    It's nice to watch this one again

  • @sistagalsistagal8136
    @sistagalsistagal8136 Před 2 lety +3

    If the numbers are spot on in terms of $, that's obviously the first hurdle to scale, but with Peter Jones, craves cohesion with a person, and a damn good character. This guy is a 10/10 dreamboat for any entrepreneur. Robert is fantastic, as his product is so good and stylish. Listen to them all fighting for him. Good on ya Robert 🙏. What a lovely fist fight to watch 👊👊. Congrats Robert 🥳 He can't loose with any of the great dragons.

  • @obviouslyanonymous
    @obviouslyanonymous Před 3 lety +35

    His original offer was already a steal with his numbers, but it makes sense as it’s clear he’s doing this more for the environmental part than for the money.

  • @derekg5674
    @derekg5674 Před 3 lety +28

    Poor Tuka, no one ever wants to share with him, lol.

  • @zydhas2838
    @zydhas2838 Před 2 lety

    Peter is always amusing because you his thought process may be complex but his feelings are always apparent. You could see from the first second that the pitcher slipped and said 25% he was fixated on it, and when he was fascinated on the product he became even more fixated on itm

  • @dees900
    @dees900 Před rokem +3

    love this guy...so confident of himself and not feeling impressed or intimidated by the Dragons...curious to know how his business is doing now?

  • @rickykanda2551
    @rickykanda2551 Před 3 lety +88

    Jenny’s having a laugh, don’t think I’ve ever seen here invest. “ I like your product, but I’m out” 🤣🤣

    • @fka_the_body1542
      @fka_the_body1542 Před 3 lety +2

      I seen her invest once I swear💯😆

    • @callum9999
      @callum9999 Před 3 lety

      The last analysis I saw, she was investing at a similar level to the others. It would be interesting if anyone has a more up to date one.
      The incessant comments about it are just people being sheep, but it's harmless so if it makes you happy why not!

    • @thebirdlady4304
      @thebirdlady4304 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, on five occasions.
      Jenny Campbell's personal website lists the following five investments: drinks brand Didsbury Gin, loyalty scheme ParkingPerx, truck advertising firm DrivenMedia, energy switching service Look After My Bills, and hemp skincare producer Carun UK.

  • @gc-yt6627
    @gc-yt6627 Před 3 lety +913

    “It doesn’t quite fit with the portfolio I’m building” - her portfolio of “outs” lol
    Edit: damn nearly 500 likes in a week, thanks guys!

    • @MrXtuba
      @MrXtuba Před 3 lety +11

      It fits with her portfolio of outs hahaha

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb Před 3 lety +3

      😂

    • @CurrentlyVictor
      @CurrentlyVictor Před 3 lety +8

      I laughed way harder than I should have at this

    • @jamiesmith4745
      @jamiesmith4745 Před 3 lety +17

      And in another clip she said she was “building up a diverse portfolio of businesses” 😂 like wut?

    • @chinmayravindrashah
      @chinmayravindrashah Před 3 lety +7

      In the woke world (probably in the US), she’d be thrashed immediately on Twitter and would be receiving a lot of heat. Who would say eco-friendly products isn’t on their portfolio? 😄

  • @danohare8819
    @danohare8819 Před 2 lety +9

    I feel so bad, he shouldn’t have given away more than 10% considering he had a 400k net profit and 500k in the bank

    • @rgaud8
      @rgaud8 Před 2 lety +2

      At the end of the day, a valuation is always exactly the amount that someone is willing to pay for it. From any other VC’s you’d be right, but the network that comes with that valuation is worth something.

    • @danohare8819
      @danohare8819 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rgaud8 I know what you mean and I totally agree with the value of something is exactly how much is willing to pay. But the dragons aren’t the only investors in the world and I believe he could’ve kept more and got the same networks elsewhere in places like Sweden where I feel like this idea would go down amazingly

  • @v3ELITEZz
    @v3ELITEZz Před 2 lety +2

    Debra has so many of these great companies. This is a really great idea as well

  • @lukeporter6186
    @lukeporter6186 Před 3 lety +57

    The looks that Jenny got after announcing her being out. And what portfolio is she referring to? “Look after my bills”? That’s the only one isn’t it?

    • @Sam-yr8ls
      @Sam-yr8ls Před 3 lety +14

      Dont forget her 2 big strapping lads at'oooome 🤣

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 Před 3 lety +1

      She's the northern girl!
      She takes care of all Crown possessions up int' North on behalf of E2R.

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Před 3 lety +60

    I would have taken the Peter/Deborah combo.
    Actualy, Tukah/Deborah would have been the best. If he could bring the manufacturing cost down, they'd be even better off.

    • @666m111
      @666m111 Před 2 lety +6

      The manufacturing costs being brought down would be easy: get the plastics from Indonesia or Brazil (both of which have massive issues with waste and pollution)
      The thing is, places like The Netherlands, Germany and some other European countries have massssivse pushes on this.
      He would benefit more from selling his products to corporate industries in the UK if the customers could say that they were helping to clean up the country of origin, with the country of origin being the one their business was from.
      The problem is, recycling actually takes alot of energy, its expansive to remould plastic, it also not good for the environment like people make out.... You need to melt the plastic.

    • @khandadonb111
      @khandadonb111 Před 2 lety +1

      No way would Deborah ever share with Touker. She seems to despise him for some reason

  • @dramadude9266
    @dramadude9266 Před 2 lety +68

    I’m glad he went with just her. And peters reaction saying he wouldn’t buy any after getting rejected shows that he was only passionate about the profits rather than what it’s doing to the world, so he made the right choice. If the other dragons were passionate about the reason behind the product like she did, they would have had a better shot.

    • @MushtaqAhmad-hijrah
      @MushtaqAhmad-hijrah Před rokem

      None of them are passionate about saving the planet. It's all about the bottom line which is profit.

    • @TheGameCamer360
      @TheGameCamer360 Před rokem +13

      He clearly said that in jest.

    • @peterschultz573
      @peterschultz573 Před rokem +10

      Peter was clearly joking.

    • @dramadude9266
      @dramadude9266 Před rokem +2

      @@peterschultz573 I’m sorry but watching the show for years and seeing him be petty like this all the time because he isn’t treated like the only dragon that matters, it isn’t clear.

    • @peterschultz573
      @peterschultz573 Před rokem +3

      @@dramadude9266 I've also watched this show for years, and he seems like the nicest dragon (although that's not saying much, but still...)

  • @richardward9699
    @richardward9699 Před 2 lety +3

    He made the right decision in the end. Peters reaction lol 😂

  • @ghedneildagalea6958
    @ghedneildagalea6958 Před 3 lety +28

    Deborah not only matched his offer but also share the same ideals of recycling. He's a good guy for not being too greedy, Peter's offer was fire.

  • @Governor2310
    @Governor2310 Před 3 lety +59

    “It doesn’t quite fit in with my portfolio I’m building at the moment”
    Dragons: You’re working on a portfolio?!

  • @devonjones4715
    @devonjones4715 Před rokem

    One of the best episodes i've actually looked at cuz this guy is quite the winner....
    I enjoyed this greatly and i think the right choice was made👍

  • @teftheemeraldfountain1394

    Wowzers! Great job in the den! ❤

  • @lucasyt306
    @lucasyt306 Před 3 lety +37

    Priceless too see Peter getting taken out of the deal , him and Debra scam that partnership deal all the time

  • @NottinghamAzn
    @NottinghamAzn Před 3 lety +28

    I actually stopped cutting my nails when Jenny said she liked it. I thought she was going to invest but NO lol

  • @459luker
    @459luker Před 2 lety +9

    Jenny: I absolutely love it. Great product. Sensible. Everybody wants to go this way. I can see all sorts of companies and offices wanting to use this product...
    ... and for those reasons, im out.

  • @mkram2154
    @mkram2154 Před rokem +4

    We could wished we can cause a fight among the dragons but it’s never easy to do the amazing life changing environmental improvement the Dutch would be making. Good for him.

  • @superman00001
    @superman00001 Před 3 lety +25

    Jenny:”I know diddly squat about anything, so I’m out.”

  • @margkropf5541
    @margkropf5541 Před 3 lety +238

    I adore Deborah.When she moves those beautifully manicured fingers the wheels are turning. Clever,articulate, the whole package!!!He made the right decision.

  • @dhirajmasodgi007
    @dhirajmasodgi007 Před 2 lety

    This is one of exceptional and amazing pitch and counter offer seesaw battle. 👌

  • @MH-dm4qc
    @MH-dm4qc Před 2 lety +1

    They are so polite across the pond aren’t they lol I AM SO PLEASED 😄

  • @kazkhan6556
    @kazkhan6556 Před 3 lety +116

    Jenny: “it doesn’t quite fit with the portfolio I’m building at the moment”
    Portfolio: “I’m out”

    • @roblove8354
      @roblove8354 Před 3 lety +3

      Jenny Campbell should never have been on the show. She talks about her portfolio. She is not a good fit for the show, as she is just so negative. Rob

    • @khoyrulislam
      @khoyrulislam Před 3 lety

      LMAO

    • @rem_rem_rem
      @rem_rem_rem Před 2 lety +2

      I remembered they kicked Khan out because he can’t invest in an alcohol related business. But Jenny stayed for the memes I guess

  • @MrConnorTV
    @MrConnorTV Před 3 lety +215

    Jenny knows she is being trolled by us. For sure.

  • @isaachinchliffe723
    @isaachinchliffe723 Před rokem +2

    Probably the GOAT den performance we've just seen there guys. Came in shot straight and secured the bag on his terms.
    Absolute masterclass from start to finish 💸

    • @Sciencedgofood
      @Sciencedgofood Před rokem

      Shame the company has dissolved. I thought with plastic waste etc they'd be onto a winner.

  • @pauocampo4666
    @pauocampo4666 Před 2 lety

    ‘ Saw a clip of this show on Tiktok and now I’m binge watching. I love it.