Is Sonic Origins Plus Worth It? - REVIEW
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2023
- Sonic Origins Plus is a $10 DLC for Sonic Origins and you can now buy the game + the DLC for $39.99. It adds 12 game gear titles, a playable Amy in Sonic 1,2,3 & CD and you can now play as Knuckles in Sonic CD. But is it worth buying for owners of Sonic Origins? And does it improve the overall package?
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It’s a shame that they didn’t use the SMS versions of all of the game gear games. That’s would of solve a lot of the issues
I mean how hard could a damn SMS emulator be? Hell give us the NEO GEO Pocket game too
@@njdevs1987It's really not that hard and the Neo Geo is a good game for replayability for the puzzle pieces.
Tbf, not all the game gear games had SMS versions, and even the sms had some bugs that the game gear games fixed
@@njdevs1987 Harder than copypasting emulator from Sonic Adventure DX.
@@njdevs1987 most genesis emulators can also do sms since its very similar hardware
I still think Amy in Sonic Origins Plus is trying to get us to get used to her moveset for Sonic Superstars
Yeah but doesn’t she have different moves in superstars?
@@Blavin I think it’s the same moveset except they gave her a double jump
I’m disappointed they never stuck to the no-spin moveset she had in the original Sonic Advance. It was refreshing to have such a different play style, and a nice challenge.
Her sonic advance play style will always be her best play style it was fun and unique
That the point I'm pretty sure
I think that not adding the master system versions of game gear games is a dumb idea because the vision of the public will only be seeing the handheld version.
Where be sonic and knuckles? Game gear also in another menu with no standalone $10 purchase nor enhancements. Small draw distance reminds me of sonic advance lol glad ds sonic colors is better in 2d than remake and I'll stick with that. Not like Sega cares about physical.
4:30 "Sonic Mania Plus"
Also, they really should've had the Master System versions as an option for the GG games that had one.
Yeah I noticed that slip up! Also yeah I can't believe they didn't use the Master System versions of the games! They are definitely an improvement!
@@KirisunaOnline Even if the hardware was basically the same, Master System versions did have higher resolutions. I think they should have been included if for no other reason than as a piece of historical interest. It's always a bit of a shame when a collection doesn't try to have multiple versions of things, especially in cases were it was different hardware or languages.
Looks like im not the only one who noticed.
My biggest complaint about this collection is that they didn’t include the Sega Master System versions of some of the Game Gear games, nor give the Game Gear games the proper love and care like they did with Sonic 1-3 & Knuckles and Sonic CD.
Otherwise, I think it’s a good start for younger Sonic fans to get more familiar with his old school platforming roots.
Though one game from this collection makes me wish that Sega could’ve did a remake on. That is Tails Adventure. Sure it’s not as fast as the main game, but I would like to see the two tailed fox having his own spin-off and starting his own series and showing how much of a badass Tails can be. Plus I like the uniqueness of the game.
Yeah, some of those games would been better if it was Master System versions, even with save states those can be a pain to deal with.
@@PikangsFutaba Especially with how fast Sonic the Hedgehog 2’s speed and beyond on that cramped screen. I find myself accidentally either careening off the cliff and to my death or accidentally trigger a trap and makes me fall to an alternate path unintentionally. At least with the Sega Master System versions of those games, you can see what traps are coming so you can come at it with a better approach. The Game Gear versions on the other hand makes it a bit more difficult than it already is. So hopefully they make an update to them in the future (I know that’s wishful thinking. Just saying tho).
If you actually expected them to remaster the game gear games then your dumb I’m sorry this is what was advertised and it’s just makes sense to port them
I can agree with that , I have a soft spot for sonic 2 game gear , was first sonic game I owed , sonic 2 was the first game I ever played on the Genesis with MK2 at my unkles, then got a game gear for Christmas from my dad with sonic 2 and carrying case, then later my brothers sister and I got a sega Genesis model 2 with sonic spinball and other great games. my bad rambling I like the music in sonic 2 some of sonic 1 game gear as well
I just turned 20 last month but I haven't gotten the chance to play the classic sonic games in one big package like this yet on console so I will be getting it.
My only complaint about the game gear games is that, they didn’t use their MASTER SYSTEM VERSION
4:31 Hold on, I thought this was a Sonic Origins Plus review?
The SLowdowns were also in the original games on the GG. As I saw Bridge Zone I remembered this from my childhood
It's so funny listening to them complain about games were the tech was limited......
The fact that the games still has slowdown on current and last gen consoles... Like c'mon this is being done by emulation so it's baffling how these games are like 30 yrs old and still suffer from slowdown.
It is... weird they didn't do the Master System version instead of the game gear...
more games on the game gear so it was easier for them to implement just one emulator
I felt Sonic Origins wasn't worth it, so when they said Knuckles and Amy in more versions of Console games and give me a chance to FINALLY beat Sonic Triple Trouble with all 8 Chaos Emeralds, jank and all, well Sonic Origins Plus is worth it to me.
Same here. I mean I don't know why certain people got a bit of hate for this.
At best, it's an okay title. It's not the worst or the best.
By the way, sonic mega collection plus had game gear versions of the titles as well.
Triple Trouble and Sonic Drift 2 are my favorite game gear games
Sonic 1 on the Game Gear is one of my favourite games. I also remember my uncle getting me Sonic 2 a couple of days before Sonic Tuesday as he was friends with the guy in the shop, felt like Christmas!
Nice to see that I am not alone regarding the SMS games. Last time I mentioned this in the comments of the reveal I got absolutely flamed! It is a shame, particularly for new players as now we can play the "definitive" version of the 16bit games alongside the "subpar" versions of the 8bit era - cOoL
Wish they included the master versions of the games that were included that had master system versions 😶
I really wanted to see the Master System version of these titles, but oh well..
Amy and Knuckles in all genesis games still should’ve been in the base game last year
0:23 What is Sonic Tree?
What issues does sonic origins plus have (specifically the game gear titles) and will there be patches for bug fixes and improvements in the future?!?! I hope so.
I tested out Amy in sonic 3 and knuckles and I got to say I really enjoy it. So its a nice feature to add her in the game. As the gear games the one I like the most is Sonic Drift its actually my favorite of all of them
Of course you did she just slower sonic with a bigger hit box
@@TW13024 I didn’t really see much of a difference between their speeds. To me they are the same
Nice review! I might end up buying anyway cause I really want to play as Amy, but it's a shame those game gear titles have so many issues. They should have ported the Master System versions.
The slowdown in the Game Gear games in this collection is accurate. The same slowdown happened in the Game Gear originals too.
I cant wait for Sonic Adventure Plus.
My question is have the glitches and bugs from the digital release been fixed or are they still present?
How was the sound quality, I watched early video about origins where the Game Gear games had terrible sound quality, so was it fixed in the final release
Nice set introduction for the original games but yeah they should have remastered the full screen stuff to widescreen. Also would add short walls on the sides of race tracks so the car can stay on the track.
Am I correct in thinking they’ve delisted the plus update for people who already own the origins game from the console store fronts?
Is widescreen still inextricably paired with the no-lives system?
0:44-0:45 that one millisecond of Amy falling into a spike pit
If they added actual games like chaotix and sega sonic, fighters and r. I would have bought this day one.
I don’t think they’ve ever rereleased Knuckles: Chaotix to my knowledge, so that be kind of nice to have the option to try it.
The slow downs were on the GG versions. I played the crap out of 1 & 2 on GG, I loved them. Kind of sad that they didn't fix the slow downs (and maybe made the screen a bit wider). Was considering buying a re-release of 1 & 2 GG versions, but given this, I'll just go on emulator.
Playing with Amy in sonic 2 and fighting the mecca robotnic at the end was a breeze 😂
These games are available in a lot of different collections and I'm having a hard time feeling like these rereleases are worth buying.. I'd be more enthusiastic about buying it if they added more characters other than Amy.. heck, if they had added Mighty and Ray I'd be more than willing to get it. I dont know.. these are old games that I've seen on so many collections and as a 30+ year old Sonic fan I bought/convinced my parents to buy like almost all but one of these collections growing up. Jeez.. Mario remixes his levels, adds characters, improves his graphics and even comes out with a tool to make your own Mario games TWICE.. at this point i want them to add some characters in there to make it more exciting.. how about Robotnik as a playable character? Or they can challenge themselves and try to classic-ize newer characters like Shadow, Cream, Rouge, and Big.
I'm getting this for Christmas. I'm happy that Sonic spinball is included, I LOVED playing that on my sister's iPod touch.
Cursed pfp
So how do you buy the plus version? Do you have to buy the game to get access to the extra content?
No matter what you have to redeem via a code or digitally buy the Plus content. Digital and physical don’t include it. But once you buy/redeem it once it will be reflected in either physical or digital. You also have to ensure either way it’s updated to at least V 2.0 (there can always still be patches later)
@@KetwunsGamingPad OK thanks so much!
I'm mainly picking up Plus for Amy
It's not emulation issues sega added stereo emulation which is the reason why the game gear titles have a echo like filter to it
Did I get a good deal by buying this game on sale for $20 (PS5) yesterday?
Why didn't they use the Master System imports?
Just Put Those Playable Characters in This Game Like:
1. Team Chaotix (Vector, Espio, Charmy, Mighty & Ray)
2. Shadow the Hedgehog
3. Rouge the Bat
4. Omega-123
5. Big the Cat
6. Cream the Rabbit
7. Blaze the Cat
Calling it now. DLC Wave 2 and 3.
Wave 2 adding the Genesis Games (even of Sonic 1, 2, and 3) and Metal Sonic as a playable character.
Wave 3 adding Sonic: The Fighters, Sonic R, and playable Mighty and Ray.
That's.. Overly optimistic.
did they fix the drop dash in sonic 1 and 2?
My complaint is that the DLC isn't in my physical copy.
4:30 “sonic mania plus”?
I own the digital deluxe edition, and I simply dont get the plus pack? I thought we were supposed to get it for free if we had the digital deluxe editon?
I feel like the Game Gear games should have just been thrown in a separate collection with their SMS/Genesis counterparts, Sonic R, Sonic the Fighters, Knuckles Chaotix, and both versions of Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Shuffle, and any other spin-offs from when SEGA was selling games on their own systems that I'm not remembering.
For easy access, I guess it is? But S1 Forever, S2 Absolute and S3 AIR are just better.
And sonic cd restored
Can't play those on consoles though. And they lack animated cutscenes
@@thevenom2731 I'd say functioning games with real save select and no scuffed S3 music are more important than animated cutscenes.
@@thevenom2731 you can still see the animated cutscenes in youtube
Did they add the rewind feature?
Unlimited lives? That's not how we did it back in the day. Sheesh.
Sonic Chaos? I got it on my Master System several years ago. Came in the mail, hooked up my Genesis, plugged in my Master System Base converter, popped in the Sonic Chaos cartridge and played through the entire game in one sitting, on my first try, and didn't die once. Easiest Sonic game I ever played
I am only getting this collection since it is physical. I don’t care about the Game Gear titles, but I know my brother in law would want to pick this collection up since he grew up with GG games.
For me I am incredibly hesitant to pick it up because aside from the artbook the game gear titles aren't even on the cartridge or disc. If they're releasing it like that then they might as well have given Sonic Origins a physical release earlier last year. I also already own multiple versions of the classic games from PC to Android as well as the unlockable version of Sonic 1 inside Sonic Generations( which I have multiple copies of as well).
@@GenerationZ313What collection game would you get involving the classic Sonic games? I still like Mega and Ultimate Collection the most.
I care about the game gear tiles though.
But does it have the original Soundtrac or not?
Is there added trophies to Sonic Origins Plus?
4:24 "sonic mania plus" lol. Wrong game bud
Why didn't they include the Sonic Advance games from the GBA or any other 2D Sonic games?🤔
I was hopping that the plus version would have the sega genisis sonic titles in HD….
Coincidence - I got a Sonic Origins Plus advertisement before this.
honestly i think amy and knuckles in sCD should have been a free update and just the game gear games as the dlc
it's just not worth buying that
It really does seem to be a final version of the games. I like the upgrades. I am a little annoyed with the changed music in Sonic 3.
I bought Origins plus because I didn't own Origins. I'm pick up limited or collector's editions of things I really like and the physical of the Origins plus is nice with a little art booklet. included. I'm never going to play the game gear versions but I'll play the originals and I did really like gliding around as Knuckles in Sonic 3 and/or Knuckles so I'll definitely try that. It's a better packaged nostalgia bundle for Sonic fans. the $10 DLC isn't much and provides a bit even if it's useless. It's for Sonic fans who grew up with them like me or people curious about the originals that made Sonic popular. Sonic Frontiers is the way to go now for Sonic moving forward.
4:30 "Sonic Mania Plus"?
How do I get sonic origins plus on Xbox? Is it not there yet
to be honest it’s not like they could remake half of if not most of their game gear titles in time before the 23d. It kinda makes sense. Also most of the slow down does make sense. I mean juggling a bunch of games can be clunky. And most sonic games take skill so you can blame them for being hard because that’s what the level design. This is a way to tell you. It’s meant to be hard.
Are the gamegear games on the cartridge, or is it a download code?
all plus content is on the code
I hope it gets patched. Would it still be a great pick up for a Sonic fan like myself? Im pre-ordering Superstars. But want to play some of the classics to tide me over. Also would it be better to get on Switch or PS5, unless it does not matter? Im getting Superstars on PS5 though. Thank you for any legit and kind comments.
I literally just got an ad for it before the vid
Amy’s Sonic Advance 2 gameplay should’ve been what the devs strived for
Does it make sonic 2 race mode 4 player
Short answer is NO--because Knuckles Chaotix is not included!
@@ChiefMedicPururu It's great! The buddy link mechanic adds an interesting spin on 2D Sonic gameplay and it has one of the best Genesis/32X soundtracks!
Is there a rewind button
Yeah the slowdown was there on the game gear, it's an accurate emulation.
wouldve been a great bonus if we got sonic the fighters instead of the game gear titles.
Yeah. I’m 100% sure Sega didn’t bother to fix the emulation with the Game Gear Titles and brought this in to solely play as Amy Rose as the highlight of the upgrade. I think overall Sega knows that the Game Gear titles weren’t very good and would rather invest in future games or Sonic rather than fixing the previous titles.
No extra trophies I'm assuming?
Does Origins Plus have Save States
I still don’t get why people are only obsesses with origins plus just cuz of Amy being playable, it’s like “AMYS PLAYABLE!!” How about the other new stuff!? Like playing the game gear tiles!
I at least liked the Irish accent,the words seemed pretty harsh. And what's so great about the Master System that Game Gear doesn't have? I'm honestly curious because I see several comments complaining about the versions used
Some of these had Master System versions which used a higher resolution for the gameplay. They don’t feel as zoomed-in which helps to avoid unnecessary hits or deaths.
The Game Gear emulation seems ok, but again, limited. Master System versions should have been included.
Im enjoying the Mission Mode, quite fun!
Id have liked more filter options too.
4:31 lil slip up there
You called it "Sonic Mania Plus" near the end lol
4:31 ah yes sonic mania plus my least favorite classic collection game
CD was your least favorite of the Genesis games? It wasn’t on Genesis, though.
Why didn't they just port the master system versions? Doesn't make sense
*Hears a kid complains about the GG Sonic games.*
Me: *Rolls sleeves* What the master at work..... I'll show you kids how to get the yellow emerald in Sonic 2. WITHOUT the hang glider.
If i buy origins plus physical copy is dlc free like 12 game gear games????????????????
Yes
4:31 funny slip up
You called it “Sonic Mania Plus” tho 😂
Yeah I noticed that too🤣 are you gonna get the dlc?
Is that a Finglas head I hear?
Sonic MANIA plus? Also Amy isn’t a re-skin as she can jump further as well. Also Tails Adventure is really underrated.
Am eating this up and ain't no one stopping me
it looks like Sega forgot there were Sega Master System versions of those handheld games that gave you more vision ahead of you. Emulators are the best way to play those still.... also adding Sonic Spinball from Game Gear instead of the Genesis version is a odd choice since it is inferior.... also still no 3D Blast or Knuckles Chaotix. I still have no reason to pick this up and it even adds insult by having Amy be a reskin of Sonic despite fans recreating her Sonic Advance style gameplay somewhat in rom hacks.
Or perhaps they did not want the hassle of getting 50 fps to work with their emulator.
4:30 sonic mania plus? 😂
Is sonic cd technically a genesis game?
It just released??
They should have added the master system versions.
@@ChiefMedicPururuNot to mention that getting the game gear games to run properly was a difficult thing to do. Not to mention Origins Plus is running on many systems each with their own hardware and limitations. (This also explains why Colors Ultimate was clearly not easy to remaster not to mention that was outsourced followed by the lighting and the new content.)
The game gear games have always been lesser quality games...
What bothers me is how we continue to get denied a proper port for Knuckles' Chaotix!
Good thing i saved up gold Nintendo coins for this!
I ordered the physical copy, only because of the reversible cover. But it's outrageous how the disc only contains the base game, while the Plus content is a code to download.
And I feel they should have added Sonic 3D Blast and Mean Bean Machine for Genesis in this Plus update, instead of the Game Gear titles.
And to sweeten the deal is an emulated port of Knuckles Chaotix. But that's a wet dream.
Too bad the collection doesn't have Sonic Advance 1-3, Knuckles Choatix, Sega Sonic the Hedgehog (Arcade), Sonic the Fighters or both versions of Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis and Saturn).
4:30 Excuse Me What?!…
I wish they had included the Orginal versions master system versions of the game gear games.
The SMS versions were only released in Europe, and Triple Trouble was not released then.
@@enochliu8316 Fair, but I believe they have been released before on an earlier collection.
@@mageius The SMS versions was only released on Wii Virtual Console. GG version was used for every version else.
Are the MJ music in the game or taken out?
Taken out. Music for S3 zones is the same butchered muffled crap.