AUDIOPHILE USB CABLES COMPARISON
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2020
- Without a doubt, connecting a computer to a quality DAC can give excellent results, but does it really matter what kind of USB cable you use?
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Yes if your system is resolving enough.
I love my Cardas Clear USB with Apple Music lossless to my Eversolo DMP-A6 to Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc)
The DACs resistance to jitter and noise through the USB port is also important. Some DAC makes use galvanically isolated USB ports.
Thanks, Einstein. I'm sure that would fix everything and we could all be using $5 cables without missing out.
@@bunsw2070 no no, we still need to buy expensive copper, cheap copper sucks
It matters u have to hear it, sometimes it a big difference sometimes better sometimes worse price doesn't matter its all about matching dac amp and headphones or speakers
I’m using an 8 metre long Supra USB and it sounds fantastic, and no technical issues even over that length.
Wow, 😎. Did not know they made them that long.
Question on the video footage. Why is the Technics turntable a mirrored imaged in your talking video portion vs. the panning image of the TT near the beginning of the video?
The mirrored image effect you noticed in the talking portion of the video likely occurred because I used the selfie cam of my phone to film that segment. Selfie cameras often mirror the image to make it appear more natural to the person recording. However, in the panning shot near the beginning of the video, I likely used the main camera of the phone or another camera, which doesn't mirror the image. So, that's why there's a difference in the orientation of the turntable between those two segments. Thanks for pointing it out!
its interesting that those cables makes difference also in the pracier dac...
Unfortunately they do :)
Now you have the Curious Evolved, and is better than the original Curious. The improvement is notorious.
Yep, can't wait to try it out. Did you get a chance to check it out?
@@YuriBrus I have one. And is one upgrade audible.
Cool, I should try it out.
Good. I've heard others also praise the Supra. I own Audioquest Diamond interconnects for many years, excellent. But the AQ usb cable is a bit pricey. I probably will try out the Evolved.
I currently run the Evolved between my PC and an RME DAC, love it!
I use Amazon basic, perfect !
The only thing that really matters, is that you are happy 👍😉
A quick question, is the noise of the PC motherboard not way bigger than the noise on the USB cables?
The USB controller that's is used. is likely on board the CPU And needs to run beside the pci lanes, ram, gpu etc.
Yes, I noticed that when I connect an external HDD to the same board as the USB cable, running to the DAC, this negatively impacts the SQ.
Yep. The better way to do that would be to use a port with a very good usb host/controller, well isolated from the rest of the system. Most motherboards don't care, so you'll have better luck with single board computers like allo sparky.
there is no noise of anything in a digital signal
Just bought the Supra USB 2.0 based on this video...made a huge difference! Dank u wel!
Excellent choice, the SUPRA is a great cable👍👍👍
I have the D90SE dac with the A90 amp, listening to DSD audio files coming from iMac computer on the JRiver software.
I was using the stock cable, today I tried the Audioquest Carbon, and immediately noticed the stagesound improvement, which made me a believer, never expected the USB cable to have an impact on the sound.
I'm now thinking about getting the diamond.
So my question, is my gear good enough for the upgrade? And also is there any device that I should add between my computer and the dac?
Yea ! Wait a couple of months for the effect to wear off.
have someone change the cables without you knowing and then decide if it really sounds better. placebo is strong when your mind plays tricks on you, just because you see a "better" cable in your system. 0s and 1s dont have sound properties, there is no way they affect the sound stage... if that was the case you could hear a difference between different computers and harddrives.....
Hi what abt in my car plugging into my ipod sir
Was burn-in factored into your findings of these cables?
Yes. Burn-in was factored into the findings of these cables during the testing process.
Beautiful timbers? Like oak and mahogany?
I just got the Topping D90 and all I can say with stock usb wire it is dead silent no sound whatsoever to my PASS headphone amp. My previous TEAC DAC had wonderful warm sound from the two Burr Brown DACS but it was never this silent. I know the Topping D90 doesnt use the power part of the USB which makes it much quieter than DACS that do use the power part of USB wire- BUT I do plan on rolling some USB to try it out- but I feel Wireworld and Audioquest among others may make a difference.... I know I had the pleasure of using the Stealth Audio Cables Varidig wire in my system and it was night and day but that was coax 75ohm and was nearly $800+ for the 2 meters- it was giving to me by a friend who bought even more crazy expensive wire from Stealth. Does wire make a difference -yes- if your speakers are of the highest price like his (Perfect 8s) you hear sh^t loads of differences when ever you play with wire, equipment treatments etc. It all depends how much can you spend and how much is enough is enough? For me I can't afford that stuff- but I can hear the differences... wish it weren't true- I would have saved a ton by just buying what ever plays music. Actually I just updated this and right now I chose the KIMBER Kable USB and it sounds best under $100 to me - it's all copper and bested all other USBs I tried under $100- thats my limit with USB wire- it matches perfect with D90 and A90 and PASS AMP- I easily hear difference - Kimber is best for me.
I know exactly how you feel. We have 4 kids so I can't justify to myself to spend a ton on cables, but I love experimenting with reasonably priced alternatives, such as SUPRA.
www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/kimber-kable-do-high-end-usb-cables-make-a-difference.11272/ don’t waste your money.
@@r423sdex Couldn't agree more! The evidence is right there that these cables don't improve the sound yet people still seem to think they do 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@r423sdex actually funny you posted that- I liked the Kimber all Copper USB best - LMAO it sounded best. measurements vs ears vs wth? I do not know how to explain but included USB and three other USB wires sounded worse than Kimber- so yea- dont ask me why.... according to ASR their is no difference BUT there is- ever try copper vs silver plated wire? again their is a difference- I am not for spending huge amounts on small improvements but in this case the difference is big enough
@@JMAudioEditions there is no difference, it's all in your head !!!
Nice. I use Oyaide and Wireworld USB cables on my Chromebox and my PC but none of my ‘serious’ listening involves USB connections.
- And by the way, the Shelby Cobra is the most fun 😜
How would you get Audio from the PC without using USB? optical? my dac only support DSD 64 over optical so to use it to ful potential i sadly need to use USB i do wish motherboard manufacturers could focus a little more on cleaning up the noise on their USB ports
@@pappo666 I don’t use my computer to get audio to my system. It has too many problems (as you describe).
- Your best bet is to try some of the gear that tries to clean up usb power from the likes of if I or audioquest.
Went from Supra Babyblue to Supra Excalibur huge difference in my system 👍
Wow, tell me where you live as you obviously love giving money away for nothing, I have a bag of 'digital' feathers here, they make you sleep 10 times better, only 4K....Mugs actually believe this nonsense, Oh well a fool and his money are easily parted as proven here by the morons giving cash away....
Volgens mij hoor ik een Nederlands accent ;-) When using Roon with a Synology NAS where the Roon Core resides the Supra cable is a very good upgrade compared to the printer cable? I have hooked it up to a Technics SU-G700 with internal DAC with battery clock etc. I already find it's fantastic sounding but I should definitely try it?
Hi Werner, ja je hebt gelijk, ik ben een Hollander. Mooie combinatie heb je, klinkt zeker top. Eerlijk gezegd weet ik niet of je de geluidskwaliteit nog verder verbeteren kan, door de USB-kabel van de NAS te upgraden. Waarschijnlijk maakt het geen hoorbaar verschil. Heb je geen mogelijkheid een goede kabel van een kennis, of hifi shop, te lenen, zodat je het kunt testen?
Does anybody here who has posted a comment really understand how usb transmission works ? If you understand differential signal transmission and examining such things with eye diagrams. If you know what RFI and EMI is ? If you can describe the difference between asynchronous and isochronous timing methods ? What a UART is ? What NRZI is ? How USB negotiates with devices at each end above the radio frequency level of transmission when inside the data protocols themselves ?
All this for audio which is a real-time critical stream of data and can't keep asking to send that last chunk of data because the last 16 bit CRC failed over again ?
Your printer can ask for that last chunk of data to be resent 20 times and you will not notice the difference in how long the printer took to print your letter or photo.
A USB webcam can do exactly the same because the methods used to encode the data can adjust fast enough and with some very clever mathematics make it really hard to notice any loss in qualitly of the video even when there is some data loss.
When you understand all of this you will not come back with the 'but it's digital and its only ones and zeroes' and 'therefore a cable will make no difference'.
You will have an insight that transmission of any data even inside a processor between planar substrates is not "1's and 0's"
Every signal that traverses an interface such as USB over a wire is not simply digital.
If you have poor quality physical medium underneath all the other signals that are trying to reliably get from one end to the other and provide a reliable mechanism to deliver data then you are not off to a good start.
Yes of course you can analyse this with equipment that is above the standards that connect these devices using USB2. And yes you would see that when delivering a signal that needs to absolutely cause no additional work in the upper layers at digital level for the protocols involved to minimise (yes minimise NOT eradicate) data loss for data being sent to a DAC (without significant delay being involved) and how a DAC has to adjust for subtle losses in its data source, you would see that a cable CAN make a difference.
And we haven't even got near how different USB chipsets from different manufacturers 'interpret' the USB standards and manage the quality of signal at the physical interface or how the different kinds of DAC's handle audio data when it eventually reaches it !
And all of this is before it gets converted to an analog signal that our brains can process as we are unable to connect an interface like USB directly to our brains !
And if you forget that the point of all this is to make the music (or any other kind of audio) more enjoyable than listening with string and plastic cups or a cheap mp3 player and throwaway headphones then you should have a much more open mind when it comes to humans and our relationship with sounds.
Wow life sure is complicated... Good luck to u..
@@Ab.abhi9 Hey, thanks for the comment. Life can be complicated if you want it to be. Transmitting a signal across a wire that is interpreted as binary at either end really is complicated and a science. Let's not forget USB is a consumer price interface, not something you would use in a laboratory. All the comments below with all the insults are not useful. Let's all share our knowledge and maybe help some one along the way enjoy music a little more.
@@DrRobbo-ig9kn check out Amir's measurements on audio science review, and you'll realise that while yes, USB cables can add jitter and noise, it takes an extremely badly engineered DAC for that to happen
This is a stream of consciousness rant that Trump would be proud of.
Bought the Supra base on this review, I am very happy with performance. Excellent.
Great choice👍 I love supra cables.
Can you specify the exact model, the link is broken.
How much distortion reduction did you measure?
How were the digital 1's and 0's better with that cable. How precisely do different USB cables alter the numeric sample data at the source so that they result in different numbers at the destination? If you use a Supra cable to transmit a FLAC file from a computer to an external HDD, is the FLAC file on the HDD better than it was at the start? Is it a worse FLAC file if you use a cheap USB cable?
I just upgraded my USB cable from supra to AQ Diamond. Frankly speaking it's fantastic. Trust me guys it's worth of money.
i have a large full size tower which i plug into a RME ADI 2 DAC ,
i just use a resonable quality usb cable , i have tried a high priced
usb lead and i coud not tell any difference , this is a £1000 dac
and focal clear headphones , i only use a 0.7m cable ,
what i have noticed is i have a lot of usb ports on the front and back
of pc and all the rear ports ( 8 of them ) all gave me noise ,
but the front which are a long way from the mother board and
sound is perfect , only thing i thought about is a pci card which
are sold for low noise and some have seperate power supply as
think thats were the noise comes from the power ....
its worth trying all your ports as there is a difference ,
some of mine arre usb 2 , some are usb 3 , some are 3.2 ?
800 dollar for a usb cable , sounds like 10 dollar cable and
790 profit ...
to me i feel money would be better spent on say better dac , phones
or something you know you are going to get a marked improvement ..
i know as a rule they say spend 10 percent of you system on cables ,
but data cables i am a bit sceptical on ...
and with a lot of things like that , if you tell someone this is an expensive
wine they will normally like it better , you know what i mean ...
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights.
It's great to hear that you were able to improve the sound quality of your system by trying out different USB ports, and I agree that it's worth experimenting with the available options to find the best results.
In terms of USB cables, I understand your skepticism about the high prices of some models, and it's certainly possible to find good-quality cables without spending a fortune. At the same time, I think it's important to keep in mind that there are differences between cables in terms of their construction, materials, and manufacturing processes, and that these factors can impact the performance of the cable to some extent. That being said, there are definitely diminishing returns when it comes to spending more on cables, and I agree that it's often a better investment to focus on upgrading other components in the system, such as the DAC or headphones, where the improvements can be more noticeable.
Ultimately, it's all about finding the right balance between cost and performance, and making choices that align with your own priorities and preferences.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you continue to enjoy your system!
USB was never intended for audio. theres a reason why signal +/- are isolated and you dont wrap them around a power wire. make your own without power and separate the signal wires.
Thanks for your interesting input 👍
Guess you mean as with the Curious USB cable?
@@YuriBrus not sure of their construction. Just makes sense. I've only started using USB for digital audio. Coax b4
How about the Denafrips iris? You don't have any reclocker
You should also try thelinearsolution cable
Hi Ben, thanks for the tip. I was not yet familiar with this company,. Browsing their website right now, looks very interesting.
Best regards
Yuri
Do a scientific blinded test. Instead of just saying “dynamics”, “lifting of a veil” and just generic audiophile goberby-goop. Otherwise I’m not going to believe electrons are going to travel differently in a digital connection. Prove me wrong.
Yes, I totally agree with you.
How can you even hear a difference in these cables they are only transporting zero's and one's.
The DAC still have to make Analouge signal of it, there is where the difference lieghs.
It is totally imaginary no more no less.
$700 for a usb cable, you must be joking, this is ridiculous.
It's hilarious how ignorant some of you guys are. You give science a bad name. Please don't reference it anymore. The very definition of science is to observe & EXPERIMENT. I am not even talking about expensive overpriced cables. Some USB cables under 50 dollars sound night & day different. Not even a debate, at all. Blind tests passed 100% of the time. I've done it. I'd bet money even your stubborn ears couldn't deny the immediate & obvious difference.
@@JPWinters I said “do a controlled blinded test and put on you tube”. You completely agree with me. Not sure why you are complaining.
My hypothesis is that it makes no difference. But my mind is open. If you can empirically show that this is wrong... do it. That is the definition of science.
I am asking you to observe and experiment. Precisely what you are criticising.
@@andrepoon Actually, you said exactly, "Do a scientific blinded test."
Actually, the definition of science is: "the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."
It's no one's job here on CZcams to put in a lot of time & effort performing formal experiments just to "prove you wrong". How about you get off butt and order a few USB's cables off Amazon with free return policies and experiment like Carl Sagan would've wanted you to? Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you get to proclaim it's wrong & demand everyone else to prove it FOR you first. Serious science is not going to devote resources to audiophile topics. You are just going to have to experience it yourself.
I see you edited your post where you first said "I am asking you to observe and experiment. Precisely what you are criticising.". I've already done the tests. I was 100% correct on all the blind A/B tests. And like I said I'm talking about under $50. The differences can be substantial, depending on the cable. I generally won't spend much more than $100 on a cable, I think the cables costing thousands are a rip-off.
@@JPWinters 1.) I edited my comment to correct a spelling / grammatical error
2.) Your first and second paragraphs are not mutually exclusive.
3.) I don’t need to do anything. If you are trying to sell me something for hundreds of $... the onus is on the seller to demonstrate their product is beneficial. And NOT get a load of hocus pocus reviews on you tube that make vague purposefully undefinable statements like “there is more air...”.
Blind A / B test it. Then you (not specifically you) can convince me to spend my $. Otherwise I going to keep my money. It’s a free market.
It is interesting that on the whole of you tube (of what I can find) there is no one doing blind A / B tests... which is kind of a reg flag. 🤔
Will printers print better with those cables?
lol!!!
yes it will have more depth and finer details on the ink
I use my 7notes audio cables and no other. They sound great in my system
I haven't watched all the video just yet but it would be great if you were to compare the and actually show us the outcome and not just tell us. There's nothing visually we can see or audio that we can hear the difference in right now I'm less than a minute before the videos over. There are certain programs where you can see different wavelengths to tell what how much noise is in the system and things of that nature that would be a great thing to show.
Hi Katea, thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately, I'm currently not properly equipped to do any measurements, but I agree that some sound samples would be nice and I'll make sure to include those next time.
Have a great day and best regards,
Yuri
The reason is, there is no differences. And there can be, its simply DATA that goes to DAC for decoding... IF USB cable can alter sound it must decode the data and do mastering in software and the code it again. This is biggest snake oil in audio ever..
@@Thevikingcam Why do you bloody haters always have to spew this NONSENSE! Stop being a crusader if you can't afford something.
@@puciohenzap891 This is not a "hate" but we are trying to tell you truth, educate you, not to buy in to 100% SCAMS!!! . USB cables DO NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCES at all on sound quality. Scientific fact. 100%.
@@puciohenzap891 so what your saying is if it’s expensive it going to be better !. If it measures better, it is better !. Let’s see the measurements.
Wtf did i find?
UBS cables for 100s of dollars.
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I’ve done enough comparisons ... from $7.50 to $2k. Difference? Yes. But it’s not huge. Basically, if you got the money and a great system, go for it. But I still can live with a $7.50 one.
Not as bad as comparing Bluetooth/Airplay with Streaming.
Just a question : how do digital cable even matter? They only transfer 0s and 1s (as long as you don't power your device with them). These bits arrive, or they don't, simple as that isn't it? Take an optical cable for example, why should it cost more than 10 euros if the connector on both sides fits and the cable is not broken? Best regards.
Hi Pesto Pasta, thanks for your feedback and question. There's lots of info available online about this topic, have you read this one already? audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/do-usb-audio-cables-make-a-difference.1887/
@@YuriBrus Hello, thank you for your quick reply and the interesting link. I read the article and all I see is there is a difference in noise levels. There might be a more clear sound coming from a 50 dollar cable compared to a 5 dollar cable, but I highly doubt there will be a difference in 50 to 500 dollar. But then again, I have never listened to expensive cables, so I'll have to go with your judgement. Thanks for the CZcams videos. I really enjoy them!
@@Paprika526 Thank you very much, I am happy you like them. If you are doing USB audio right now and you are not sure if you should upgrade your cable, then I would suggest borrowing one first from a friendly dealer or maybe a friend. Some of the more moderate priced cables can already bring an audible improvement. I really like the SUPRA USB and Oyaide Neo line. Both can often be found well under $50.
Have a great day and best regards, Yuri
@@YuriBrus - I read that article and it pours scorn on the idea that USB cables can have any impact on audio quality. "So nothing here explains the fantastical subjective differences people report between USB cables." Unless you are using a very poorly made DAC, a USB cable will deliver only digital DATA; power will be provided by the DAC itself and so will timing, so any jitter will al;so be the responsibility of the DAC. A USB cable is entirely outside of the audio chain. While it is conceivable that NOISE could come from a USB cable, it would have to be an incredibly poor DAC to receive noise from any source, let alone a USB cable. AFTER the DAC, it is perfectly reasonable to assert that cables have an influence on sound quality, but BEFORE the DAC, it is an objectively absurd claim.
@@PhilCouling Tell it to a guy that spent 800$ for a cable. It's like trying to convince a flatearther, that earth is round. No can do sir.
SCAMMING WITH THESE PRICES LOL
Interesting video, but I am curious - if you use a variety of these USB cables to transmit an HD FLAC file to different external HDD files, are the resultant FLAC files not all identical? If they are not BIT PERFECT, why not? How is the data being altered, and by what? What exactly are you suggesting is happening to the digital samples being transmitted along the USB cable? In what way would the sample data not be IDENTICAL for any of these DIGITAL cables? If the DAC is not being fed identical digital data using ANY USB cable, which electronic component is changing the data en route?
This is a question, that no audiophile will answer. All tests are based on their feelings rather than science. It's more about autosuggestion. Besides, if you spent 800$ for a cable, you will not tell you overpaid for a crap. I know a guy, that told me, that more expensive usb cable made his printer print in better colours. Lol.
@@nipdrops - 100%. They provide no argument whatsoever for what part of a passive cable they believe is altering the digital information.
That's crazy cash
Yeah, I'm so happy my wife never watches my videos
Neeeh, i have a 1000 dollar headset, and i don't hear shit difference in the cabels. Might afect more expesnsive headphones.
Oh!!! love the analogy. Ill take the Shelby any day over any Italian car made to break-down.
Excellent choice 👌 😊
Wst is dit voor een test ?
Jullie denken gewoon iets te horen, mochten jullie geblindoekt zijn zou je geen onderscheid kunnen maken.
Bewijs deze test maar eens door een spectrum analyse te doen en deze naast elkaar te leggen.
Het is beter wanneer het meer geld kost, de filosofie van de audiophile.
Hi Geert, dankjewel voor je kommentaar. Mijn budget is helaas vrij gelimiteerd en daarom probeer ik altijd de meeste waarde voor mijn geld te krijgen. Vandaar de verglijking van twee dure kabels met de SUPRA, die het voor mijn smaak en zeker voor de prijs, fantastisch deed. Momenteel gebruik ik een USB kabel van Oyaide, uit de NEO lijn. Kost ook onder 50 Euro en klinkt top.
Groetjes Yuri
No measurements and no double blind test = garbage review, rife with confirmation bias.
Thanks for your input and sorry, no measurents. Lots of comparising though. I have to admit that I waa biased towards the curious, but I really love the Supra as well.
Jup. There is actual ways a cable can influence the DAC though.
Firstly the DAC can be bad and not have a proper shielding setup and noise from computer can be transmitted over the cable. No cable can fix this.
Secondly the DAC may be powered by the pc through the cable. A poor cable can then have noise introduced to the power and without good power supply noise rejection the DAC will sound terrible. A good cable can help with this but a proper designed DAC is a better solution.
The signal itself is digital, and there is no timing skew or other bullshit that can cause a problem. You can throw as much money you want away on cables, it's not where the solution lies, even if your ears think so.
@@YuriBrus if you can't measure something then it don't exist in a digital world moron
@@1kreature 25 € for a USB soundcard and 15 meters of optical cable, case closed
@@1kreature IF you DAC is that bad, get 100€ topping E30. Done. Just get USB 2.0 cable and use USB 2.0 output on your computer, check your computer for hissing sounds (If you got hiss etc, your power supply is bad or you have done bad job on installing it. . If none you are good to go. It wont matter if cable is 15€ or nordost 4000€. We done the testing in 3.000.000€ audio studio with 150.000€ genelecs. NO differences at all. 100% same. Its a freaking DIGITAL cable, NO audio goes there but simply DATA.
None of these cables are USB 3.0 from the looks of them.
Complete bullshit.
zero usb cable the best, max 2cm silver wire acceptable in the high end society!!!!!!!!!
Cool, thanks for your input 👍 🙂
this video is strong with the snake oil, all of this is confirmational bias.
i would like to see you do that blindly, and i am pretty sure you would fail in telling the difference every time.
"comparisons" like this are meant to do only one thing, and that is to SELL PRODUCTS.
stop being fooled people.
Get a REAL system THEN come back to comment, quit being a parrot. That $750 system you purchased from Best Buy isn't going to notice anything, it does not produce any Details like a 5-10,000 system would.
@@BumpNrun69 yeah you keep telling yourself that,maybe it will justify you being ripped off.
Notice how these types of comments are always “you cant tell the difference because you haven’t spent enough money”,and never actually address any points made in the original comment , these companies are drowning you in their snake oil and you enjoy paying for it.
@@Puss34 No, but I DO "Notice how all these SNAKE OIL" comments come from people with these $1500 or less Best Buy systems and THINK they know the real truth, but actually DON'T. I too have had shitty systems and even though my current system in under $7 grand I CAN hear the improvement with upgrades and so far the few people I did the blind test with followed with the same opinion.
But hey, I would definitely (and many other people with experience would agree) tell you, with your cheap system you & I both would not notice the improvement that much at all if any. It's all about synergy, bottom line. Good luck and let us know when you decide to take that leap & learn. I too shared the same opinion as yours with my older systems ...
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Your source (compressed Spotify) or gear or ears are not resolving enough.
I'm sorry but this is dumb and is all in your head. Whilst I probably can't reason with you, I can at least give viewers some reasons as to why this is non-sense:
USB is a digital protocol that communicates by continuously sending three types of packets; A token which tells what kind of data is coming, the data itself and a handshake packet acknowleding that the data has arrived or for reporting errors. There is NOTHING to gain by buying more expensive cables, since they all carry the same binary information.
There is only one thing that can influence the quality of the data-stream and that is the supported protocol. If you are using a windows-PC, it is most likely not running USB Audio 2.0, but the older USB Audio 1.0 protocol. With the newer protocol, resolution is up from 24-bit/96kHz to 24-bit/192kHz.
A driver for Windows USB Audio 2.0 is available, though: usbaudio2.sys.
The results from this video are pure placebo and I strongly encourage all viewers, not to spend your hard-earned money on expensive digital cables as they do nothing.
Hello Bananer, thank you very much for your input. I'm always very interested in everyone's opinion. I'm also very curious to hear from you which expensive USB cable you tested against a generic one and on what equipment you did that, it would help me very much in my research.
Thanks again and have a great day, Yuri
@@YuriBrus I have tested none of them since it is junk-science and I won't pay for them. If you really want to take a research approach, try again. But this time do it blind by having a friend or your significant other switch between them maybe 100 times without knowing which one is plugged in. If your results are any better than pure chance I will be astounded.
You give science a bad name, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Thank you for saying what I'm thinking !!!!
Of course you have tested none of them!!!!! It's hilarious how ignorant some of you guys are. The very definition of science is to observe & EXPERIMENT. I am not even talking about expensive overpriced cables. Some USB cables under 50 dollars sound night & day different. Not even a debate, at all. Blind tests passed 100% of the time. I've done it. I'd bet money even your stubborn ears couldn't deny the immediate & obvious difference.
I really don't care how USB transmission works. I care how the cables perform in conveying audio info. I am running a new Audioquest Coffee USB on my desk. It is superb. Open, clear, dynamic and resolving. Voices sound natural. The Coffee provided a conspicuous improvement over my old USB Cable. You get what you pay for. If you need to make yourself feel better because you can't or won't purchase better sounding equipment, that is your absolute right. But for the record, the Coffee is excellent. It just gets out of the way. I have not tried the Diamond......I'm too cheap. :)
USB cables don’t carry audio! They carry data to a DAC which converts the data to audio. All USB cables do this identically.
@@PhilCouling No Phil, they don't. Among other things, they handle flow of information and external noise differently. And they don't sound the same. Not even close. :) I moved the Coffee to my main rig, because the Curious Evolved in my main rig had a glare in the high range that the Coffee did not have. Perhaps your components are insufficiently resolving to reveal these differences. That might also be why the Curious Evolved was not a problem with my desk rig. As a bit of advice.....judge sounds with your ears. If you can't hear a difference, be happy with what you have.
@@stanpiper8158 - you are suffering from confirmation bias and placebo effect. USB cables deliver data to your DAC; that’s all they do, they do not transport audio. The audio signal only exists AFTER your DAC, at which point cable quality *might* have an impact on audio quality. Before the DAC, it is impossible for a USB cable to have ANY impact on QUALITY. If your DAC is susceptible to external noise from your USB cable, then you should demand a replacement DAC.
@@stanpiper8158 Judge sounds with your ears you say. Well then you won't have a problem doing a double blind listening test then will you?
My dac is immune to noise and jitter !. Just buy a better dac, simple !.
HAHAH audio bullshit, 700 $ in usb cable... You should treat your room first
Or his head....; )
John, that's a bit hard.. marketing could be very powerful and take advantage from small beliefs
Supra cables are amazing for the price but the Supra USB is very stiff.
Even if you don't hear any difference, the Supra is just an affordable well built cable without fuss.
Totally agree👍. I like the Supra cables Power Cords as well, excellent build quality and still reasonably priced, for a high end cable.
You mean it works !
This was all blind testing, right?
Omg what BS :D
Now repeat the same test in a double-blind mode. I can bet a thousand Euros, tad no one will be able to tell a difference between a 5$ printer cable and 800$ Audioqest, because there is NONE when it comes to digital data transfer. It's a digital signal with a built-in error correction! It's not like you are passing an analog low-voltage line-level waveform through the cable - it's literally a string on 1s and 0s, and if even a single one of them would be changed or affected by the cable, you would have fragments of audio missing entirely or even connection between devices lost, not some imaginary "wider/narrower soundstage" artifacts. Sorry, but this is a pure snake oil, and I'm very sad that experienced audiophiles like yourself is convincing yourself otherwise. You guys should stick with comparing speakers, amps and shielded analog cables that really makes a difference, not a digital cables.
I am losing my mind at the sheer placebo effect on display in this video
Yeah, in double blind mode test you can't tell a $100 amp from $1000 and what does it prove - NOTHING. It's all about perception and your own feel of whatever you think sounds good.
i double-blind tested a bunch of my friends. Every single one of them can tell the difference instantly
Your source (compressed Spotify) or gear or ears are not resolving enough.
Nonsense.
Your gear or ears are not resolving enough.
It does not. If the cable is done by the parameters of USB 2.0 its fine. There is NO difference in sound ofc, its DATA that goes in there. Period. What BS... 100% BS.
Which USB cable and high end systems have you tried to draw that conclusion?
@@divertitiFrom 4000€ STAX set to 3.000.000€ Genelec studio. Also i own about 13.000-15.000€ worth of other headphones, DACs, headphones AMPs.
@@divertiti And its not about testing, that is not even needed cos inside USB cable dont go audio but bits. So how can USB cable alter the data? There is no way unless the USB cable is an actual AI and can decode the data to an analog audio, the master it and the code again to data. Just think about it....
If the data isnt the same as it was at the beginning of transport the error correction will fix it so even if USB cable can alter few bits it will auto correct the sended data packet to normal. Thats why we still have computers, aeroplanes and we got to go to the space. If digital data is that unreliable we would not have any computers at all. This is just basic knowledge about digitality and computing.
@@Thevikingcam That's the longest way to say you have zero practical experience and just talking out of ignorance
I tested these cables against the bargain snake oil cable. I found the snake or cable to be the best.
Just means you like forward overpowering mids rather than a balanced presentation. Most cheap cables do not do balanced soundstage properly but they are mid forward. You should be set with cheap cables. Lucky you. Unfortunately for me, I have the hearing of a toddler, so I have to spend the big bucks.
@@johenkay1129 - can you hear the individual bits coming down the cable?
@@PhilCouling Maybe through the Shunyata Sigma. I'll let you know when I do, probably after I purchase a $2,500 power cord. I mean we all know that power cords make a difference too, right?
@@johenkay1129 - if that’s what your religion teaches you to believe, then yes, but better remember to replace all the power cables in the walls of your home as well…
@@PhilCouling We're calling it a religion now? Are we going down this road again? The fact that you followed me to a different comment shows who the actual religious zealot is... is this your calling? your crusade? Dogmatism is a dangerous road, it leads to fanaticism... Your dogmatic views are so pervasive that it prevented you from sensing the sarcasm in my previous reply. Get better soon...
Total scam