SHOCKING Sony a1 vs Canon R5 Review: Portraits, Sports & Wildlife
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Tony & Chelsea Northrup review the $6,500 full-frame 50 megapixel 30 frames per second (FPS) Sony A1 (sdp.io/a1) camera vs the $4,500 45 megapixel 20 FPS Canon EOS R5 (sdp.io/r5) camera. They test eye detect autofocus for portraits with both humans and dogs. Then, they take wildlife photos to test the bird eye AF. Next, they test two sports scenarios: photographing people running at the camera and motorsports / cars.
The results are genuinely shocking - the Sony A1 frequently blows us away with its speed, but the less expensive Canon R5 also wins many of the comparisons! - Věda a technologie
"Switching focus priority to Release would increase the fps but decrease the number of shots in focus" => that's actually a big assumption, and it means you didn't test. In reality, you will often find the exact opposite, and for ex. Jordan used 30fps with Release and got all his shots in focus. And what mode was the R5 on? Is there a setting to change that? If not then it's Release by default. Don't you think both cameras should be set at the same settings (or at least very similar) in a fair comparison?
Also, it's pretty clear the 70-200GM is the bottleneck in that test. When you test a camera, you don't want to limit it, so you should use the best possible lens, in this case it could have been the 135GM for example. This is true for all tests of any kind. For example when comparing GPU speeds in games, you want to use the fastest possible CPUs as well, in order for the games not to be limited by the CPU.
The difference is that I can pair any GPU with any CPU, so testing them independently makes sense. What if I'm a sports shooter who needs the 70-200 focal length? If I get the a1, I'm stuck with their outdated glass. What the camera can do with other lenses attached is irrelevant in that scenario. I need a camera + 70-200 combination to perform well.
@@youknowwho9247 This wasn't supposed to be a test of 70-200 lenses. Personally I have zero intention of getting a 70-200 (and certainly not the current GM), but am very interested in AF performance. So that part of the comparison was a complete bust.
Hardware Unboxed discovered that Nvidia GPUs perform worse with lower end CPUs than AMD GPUs, because Nvidia GPUs use software scheduling.
@@Knowbody42 Fair enough. But to find that issue you need to test both cards with both types of CPUs. Not one card with a slow and one with a fast CPU.
@@daran0815 It's significant enough that in some cases a 5600 XT outperformed an RTX 3090. You would think that should never happen.
So it looks like both cameras are good at Pixel peeping
Tony is not your typical BMW driver. He uses his blinker!
BMW drivers normal drive with blinkers
@@doghouseriley4732 and they spel good
@@fepethepenguin8287 And they are all native english speakers?
These are not blinkers but turn lights. Meaning, they are not designed for blinking, but for telling other drivers on the road that you are about to turn. Maybe this is why people don’t use these, because they don’t know what they are for?
@@Mr.mallaer Actually in german the thinks ARE called Blinker
While he was at 85 mm 1.4 Sony's iso was 800 and canons was 400 and then he says canons image is cleaner and has better image quality. Wtf Tony
They were using auto settings and he said the sony chose better settings to expose the image correctly
@@romanpul he also said they kept the settings the same and commented on the Sony being brighter. So, I think it was a goof-up.
@@chosenideahandle Maybe he meant the same auto setting 😂😂
But it makes actually sense, that the RF needs higher ISO (or lower shutter speed). Despite its otherwise great feature the RF 50mm f1.2 has relatively low transmission for a f1.2. At f1.2 it just gathers as much light as the GM at f1.4. A better comparison would have been to shoot them both wide open
@@romanpul oh ok
Tony & Chelsea are total frauds imo
"Or a panda" was a great jab lol.
Pandas are vicious and using LOL is pretty irrelevant
I know Tony was being sarcastic when he said real photographers don't need eye AF, but Chelsea's snappy rebuke was priceless "Ok, well if you don't need it why pay all that money to get it!?" 😂Loving this comparison. Thanks guys!
yes and that is why I'm staying with the Nikon Z cameras and my old Pentax.
I know right? 😂 gotta love Chelsea.
Well he is somehow right, real photographers don’t need eye AF, and to proof that look at the guys that do big budget commercial shoots that goes to billboards, they use medium format that doesn’t have eye af.
@@hofra01 us old timers never used it! But got to admit, with our eyes aging, it is nice to have. Especially with those grandbabies moving around so fast!
@@gosman949 sure it is nice to have, but nowadays people are making it a huge deal. Like shooting with a camera that has better eye AF will make you a better photographer or will make your photos magically better than shooting with a camera that doesn’t have a good eye af.
Wait, hold on.
At 3:30 you talk about the sharpness of the Sony lens, using an image that you just used to document how the Sony body front focus.
That does not seem reasonable.
Right???
Exactly. The image on the left looks far better imho. I didn't even look at the top until I looked at the images.
@@wildlifebybrianhoule That's why you are w keyboard warrior and they earn a living doing what they do. Every photgrapher will tell you, focus on the iris....................
@@doghouseriley4732 lol. Ok. So I offer my opinion on 2 images and suddenly I’m a keyboard warrior? That’s a wee bit defensively harsh like you took it personally. I’ll give you the benefit of doubt being a stranger and all plus chalk it up to Covid stress. Check out Mark Galer’s video. His shots didn’t seem to catch the eyelashes and nailed the iris - of a 70mph moving greyhound. I’ll wait to see what other reviewers have to say as well.
he is comparing 400 iso canon image to 800 iso sony image off course canon will be ''sharper''
I like how Mark Galer basically told us Tony doesn't know wtf he's doing. Maybe learn how to actually use a camera before reviewing one?
Yeah that was funny, Tony & Chelsea comparing one of Canon's best zooms ever to the 5yo 70-200 GM didn't fool me.
Perhaps Mr Galer should use an R5 before making false claims about it as he clearly doesn't no wtf he's talking about with regard to Canon gear.
@@stevemurnan1702 Not sure wtf you're talking about, as he made no references to the R5, only Tony's inability to properly use the Sony in his review.
@@Atreyas At about 54 minutes he puts a slide up showing the superiority of the A1 vs the R5. The first item on the list claims the R5 suffers from blackout and the A1 doesn't. Go back and watch the video again at around 54 minutes.
@@stevemurnan1702 What other 70-200 2.8 option does sony have? Oh none? That's sonys fault. A camera is only as good as its ecosystem that supports it and user.
“You better hope that stays only with cameras” Chelsea you made my day 😆
Tony was momentarily thinking menage a trois
Chelsea , do you like younger guys? I volunteer to be your side guy , don't worry if fit 😉
that was such a sick burn XD
FATALITY!!! points to Chelsea
Gold
Please test the A1 with a lens that can keep up with the 30 frames per second ie., the 135 1.8 gm and the 24 1.4 gm for instance. These lenses have been built for action. Using the outdated 70-200 2.8 was an unfair test.
unfair test against a 700$ consumer f11 prime? lol
The 70-200 GM can keep up - but he needs to use Wide AF area and set his shutter to Release under settings up achieve the 30 fps. :)
@@hiawrj regardless 70-200 is already an old lens and needs a hardware update.
Agreed - why test the camera with a lens that is not capable??
The 135mm, maybe. But the 24mm? Who IN THE BLUE HELL is using a 24mm lens for sports?
But realistically, a sports photographer needs to be using whatever the best 70-200 is on their system. In the case of Sony that happens to be a slightly outdated lens. It's no good to a sports photographer saying something like "well the system was designed for newer lenses like the 24mm f/1.4" when they _need_ the 70-200.
Great video - conveys a lot of information while being very entertaining. Better than regular TV these days. As far as Sony Alpha 1 vs Canon R5, I would think the real competition would be the Canon R1 when it comes out... the huge price differential and the fact that the Alpha 1 is Sony's best, while the R5 is priced more like a 5D Mark IV replacement, should indicate that the real match up is yet to come. The fact that the R5 does so well is the "shocking" result of the video. I am really becoming addicted to Tony & Chelsea videos - you are both enjoyable to watch and never fail to bring a smile to me after a long day. Thanks!
I switched from Canon to Nikon a few years ago and was happy with the decision at the time. Let's be honest though, Canon is killing it now with the R5 and R6.
Well they are killing it with great but big heavy lenses . Compactness goes to Sony
Never underestimate the sensors of Sony (and Nikon). The original R is very poor in terms of sensor performance. I own one, it is not good. My 12 year old 5d mk 2 has a nicer quality.
Nothing stops you from switching back and forth or using multiple systems. It’s not like you are married to any of these camera systems, you owe them no loyalty.
@@phelanwolf6747 Sure, as long as $ isn't a factor. That's an expensive approach.
@@joeblack4026 Compactness when you want to be a professional?
Glass all the way.
So it seems to me, taking into account price and lenses, the Canon won this thing hands down
But did you consider price OF lenses as well?
The lenses are the most important piece too.
To achieve good quality picture at 600 MM, the Sony A1/200-600mm Lens combo is the cheapest way to get that. Canon need to use its 600 mm prime lens on R5.
@@meynp4337 Yup Canon R5 has an advantage because its been in the market for longer. Also the Sony A1 needs lens updates.
also the Tamron 70-180 for E mount is a better comparison
"Are they usable frames, or will you just keep knocking your lens off your body?" :)
I have to say I felt gear could be limiting at times when I had my 5d mark iii, but since I switched to mirrorless my keeping rate skyrocketed. We are at a level where gear doesn't matter anymore !!!
You guys form a very engaging team and though I keep telling myself that I don't want to spend time watching gear stuff, you manage to lure me into watching your videos. Thanks.
How to win any argument, by Tony:"Yeah, but I have 30 frames per seconds"
I'm calling it: Chelsea wins the internet this week with 'poly-camerous'! PS - interesting results concerning autofocus too, I've noticed more misses than I'd have expected with the A1 as well, but wondered if it was my lens selection at fault.
As a polyamorous AND poly-camerous person myself, I cannot overstate how much that made my day. :D
I'm both poly-camerous and polyamorous - IN PRINCIPLE. In practice, I'm mono-camerous and single! I'd like to be poly-camerous, but my bank account won't let me. I'd also like to be polyamorous, but nobody'll let me. Ho-hum. At least I have my A7RIV.
Or maybe you could learn how to do some manual focus stop being a lazy spray and prayer
Gender neutral and identity politics are initiation in to artificial intelligence. And I'm allowed to say that
@Gus Erland What the hell is this ridiculous misogynistic rant about? Chelsea made a joke - about cameras FFS. There's no reason to think she's actually interested in polyamory. And I don't think you know either Tony or Chelsea at all well.
I have been away from your channel for awhile, but you guys really continue to keep it fresh and interesting! Good work!
1:50 it seems like the canon eye focuses way further away, and sticks to the eye at 2:20 way better.
how come i actually love the focus to be on the eyelashes more so than the iris🤔
@@f.iph7291 You are wierd? Just saying
The eye-autofocus is amazing, leaves nikon so far behind and even beats the Sony
Thanks for the review, but I would be much more interested in how the a1 compares to the a9II and a7RIV since there is no chance I will sell my $40k+ of Sony lenses. Just a suggestion. Also, the Sony 85/1.4 is probably the worst lens to use if you want to see what the a1 can actually do. Even Sony doesn't doesn't put the 85/1.4 in the "top tier" lenses for the a1.
They used the 70-200 f/2.8 and 600 f/4 in the actual sports and wildlife tests.
Yeah they looked like fools in the last video by using the slowest GM lens (the 85) to test the 30 FPS and on this video how did they cripple the camera?.. hey let’s put a teleconverter on it to slow it down with pre-production firmware that may not even be compatible with the teleconverter yet.... bonus points for making the lens disconnect on that newer big a7R IV grip size that your fingers normally don’t even wrap all the way around the front.. you’d have to try hard to hit that disconnect button. They’re definitely our special breed of Connecticut idiots
+1 on using the Sony 85/1.4
@@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 They're just doing their thing. And more information is always good. I have been hoping for a "hi-megapixel a9," so if the a1 can match, or improve on, the AF performance of the a9 at 50MP and 20+ fps, I will be happy.
@@youknowwho9247 Yep. That's a good thing. The 70-200 is due for an upgrade but still a great lens. For close-up sports, I would be tempted to try the 135/1.8 because it is so sharp and fast.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Great video with so much useful detail. I think it's time to upgrade to the R5.
Waw ... amazing review and huge efforts ... very much appreciated dear Tony and Chelsea
Just come from Mark Galer's excellent review of the A1, someone who actually knows how to set up this camera and use it correctly.
The man that get's paid in kind by Sony and was asked to make the video. He also compared the A1 to the R5 and clearly hasn't ever picked an R5 judging by his claims of blackout etc. He also fails to mention where the R5 is superior to the A1 and the huge price difference.
@@stevemurnan1702 Where is it superior? I would like to know (at least what you think?). The fact that the R5 can't record to both cards simultaneously is a deal breaker for me. I need the security of redundant content recording in case something happens. But I would like to know what you think?
This is the guy who gets a Sony wage cheque?
@@cogmission1 IBIS 5.5 stops vs 8, resolution of rear screen and a fully articulated rear screen to name a few. The jury is out on the eye AF atm but in all the videos I've seen it's no better than the R5 and some are saying worse. Until full independent tests have been carried out on the A1 there's a lot of second guessing sensationalist crap floating around. However Mr Galer's comparison with the $3000 cheaper R5 clearly states the R5 has blackout. The guy's a hypocrite taking expensive goods off of Sony for free then claiming he's not affiliated to Sony. He produces a video at Sony's request (as they don't like the bad press) to set the record straight then makes false claims about the R5.
The R5 can record to both cards simultaneously btw. I do it frequently and you can download the manual to check if you are concerned.
@@stevemurnan1702 Thank you for your sober response. (That’s genuine)
For conclusive evidence of the A1’s AF capability, put this into CZcamss search - it will end all confusion... (if you’re interested)
“Sony A1 new bird eye AF: Is it really work? A1+200-600G”
I like how the two of you can present opposing views like people really should -- without getting personal and resorting to ugliness. Wish people could talk like that about all things that are potentially contentious.
You both rock! Thank you, always, for your content.
True Ted, Mass media and social media have really stoked the ugliness in people, it’s like there is an agenda to create division, not unity.
16:45 what I see behind me in my nightmares when tony is chasing me to sell all my gear at KEH
Great comparison video! Love your channel! Thanks you two! Cheers!
My R5 keeps on sounding AMAZING and the best choice I made so far
I can relate also
Until you realize you have no redundant recording and your CF card failed... You can just tell your client "Oops!" :-)
@@cogmission1 what? Lol what are you talking about dude? I said R5 not Z7 🤣 i have redundant on my SD
And if you mean video.. very little people need to record on dual cards..
i shot with a Z6/7 for 2 years on one card and had never had an issue or problem.. lmao! Dude i am sad for your negativity hahah
@@moealyasini2784 Be sad for yourself. Your luck will run out and you'll ruin some poor client's life. Do what you need to do.
@@cogmission1 are u serious?! I've been shooting for years now and never had this issues. so I'm not gonna sell my r5 just for video redundancy
I'll probably never buy these cameras, but I love watching videos about them!
@@drblakeslovick4607 I don’t have any problem with him nitpicking any of the latest gear. They’re all fantastic, but are bound to have flaws. Knowing exactly what the flaws are is useful if you’re considering purchasing something this expensive.
@@drblakeslovick4607 show us where Tony hurt you
I especially love videos from these two. No offense to other reviewers, but Tony shows a high level of intelligence in his reviews, and Chelsea is hands-down the best photography personality on YT.
@@drblakeslovick4607 which has destroyed our industry mediocre photographers power-hungry for social media Fame have put down day rates to lower than 20 years ago.. meanwhile your camera companies are making billions Canon doesn't care one bit
You won't ever need to buy them. In 5 years time, these same specs with be in the Sony a7-5 and Canon R6-3. Imagine $2,500 bodies with these specs in 5 years. The A1 is showing us that the next generation of evolution cameras is Electronic sensors now thus removing mechanical shutters, their cost, and their limits.
For the price eventually, gotta love the R5 🖤
Really great comparison video, you guys!
This is such a great video! I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
Love the straight face when Chelsea says “or a panda” with the small silence afterward XD
or a panda!!!
As a panda owner I was sold on the Canon panda AF.
Love these types of videos thr both of you do. Thank you.
Great content! Fun and informative from both of you cool folks!
Really interesting, well thought-out review. I think Canon deserves a lot of credit for its comeback and producing a camera that is, comparatively speaking, an excellent value and a serious competitor to Sony's latest and greatest.
comparing 2 images for "sharpness" taken at different ISO's zooming in on focus area on one and out of focus area on the other?. WTF testing is this?
The kind that tries to match the images because even if you use the same camera with different firmware like I have before, it never matches the exposure of one another, let alone imagine with completely different cameras from different brands.
Study more, then try complaining again on people who really knows what they are doing.
And put a times converter on the Sony and compare with Canon then shoot at a slow shutter speed! Waiting for expert wildlife photographers Mark Smiths A1 review he knows how to shoot wildlife. Camera labs Gordon Laing did a more controlled comparison of the 2 cameras said they were both good but zooming in the Sony was better. They don’t to have comparable lenses to test
@@wolfiesynergymusic people that know what they are doing? You're aware that these 2 are youtubers? Not photographers right?
I'll be interested to see Mark Galer's full review.
@@cbflazaro They know and do what the average photographer needs to know to get better, and even though I'm extremely empiric regarding specs (not meaning actual camera specs but overall) I found this comparison extremely compelling. I'm rocking a 6D, pretty old camera btw, gonna switch to an A7R iiii soon.
I would search for another CZcamsr that knows better, but I'm not some huge star or an olimpics photographer (at least for now) I'm just realistic.
Even with only those conversations without camera test, i always learned something from them 👍❤️❤️❤️
6:25 reminds me of what Chris Niccolls from DPReview said when he reviewed the Z6II: So, animal eye detect doesn't work on Black Cows with black eyes heavily backlight by the sun, disappointed!"
Yep, and the Canon was focusing on the dog's nose!
How are you still standing after that impression. 😂😂
Great comparison, and obviously a lot of effort put into this. Loved the non-serious subjective banter, it balanced well with your objective thoughts after each test :)
Thank you, great video (as usual).. Any thoughts on the A1s shortcomings... will this be able to be fixed with firmware updates?
In the end, it depends on which system you have chosen, after all you have invested in the lenses.
Both cameras are great, but because of other advantages (downsampling FF according to APSC etc.) I'm looking forward to the A1 I have ordered!
Letztendlich kommet es darauf an für welches System man sich entschieden hat, schließlich hat man ja auch in die Objektive investiert.
Beide Kameras sind super, aber wegen auch anderer Vorteile (downsampling FF nach APSC u.a.) ich freue mich auf meine bestellte A1!
That R5 locks on that eye like a gazelle.
Loved this review, it was so charming, entertaining, and informative.
Great video guys! Thanks 🙏
Tony, your experience with the accidental release of the lens is one I have experienced using my 100-400 GM and 70-200GM even without using gloves.
This is a real scary problem and I am surprised nobody has raised this design flaw. Sony please relocate the lens release button on the other side of their future cameras.
I have had the same issue with my 100-400mm on the a7R3. It was a close call.
Haha see Fro on the sidelines when Tony talks about shooting sports
And the quick pull away?
You guys are awesome - my favourite video yet after many years of following
for the indoor portraits, what was the metering mode of the Canon?
In terms of animal eye AF, I leave my A9 in either wide or expand flexible spot med tracking and my eye hit rate is almost 100%. It will first find the body, then head and then focus on eye very quickly. I'm sure the A1 would work even faster in these modes? I've even managed to get sharp focus on an animal in the brush with one eye obscured and sharp focus on the other eye.
Yea, Tony is not doing any of the tests properly. :(
I just turn on the animal eye auto focus on my R5 and get the same results!
David Pinkus. Me too. First shot of a fox sitting in the open and facing me. Locked on to the left eye immediately at 45 metres. Fox then sat behind a bush, partially obscuring the left eye. Camera still locked on immediately at a distance of 48 metres (I used manual focus after each shot to determine the distance). I am really impressed with Sony animal eyeAF.
@@petedraper5185 Yeah, they're getting close to Canon. Quite a bit ways to go though.
Best promo for the R5 sofar! Congrats to you Northrups!
The fact that you use the outdated Sony 70-200 instead of the real sport lens Sony has,100-400 GM shows the case.....
Great review Tony & Chelsea, many thanks
Love your work and sense of humor.
Thank you!
You two look like you genuinely enjoy each other.
Hmm, i'm not actually that convinced that Sony actually front focused on the first comparison. It seems to me like Sony shot simply has slightly deeper dof. It looks like that when you compare a spot that is slightly "deeper" in the photo than the eyeball, look at the conjunctiva on both shots, it looks pretty much in the same sharpness. Actually the Canon shot looks ever so slightly blurred, perhaps it is simply the motion blur.
Also no shit that the photo was brighter, it was ISO 800 vs 400 :P But i guess you meant that the auto iso was better on Sony?
It does look like the Canon photo has motion blur.
They said the difference in exposure is because of the automatic metering (did not specify whether that was Av, Tv, P, A or only auto-ISO), which Canon kept getting wrong. I'd like to know what metering mode each camera was in since I've ever found either Sony or Canon to struggle with backlighting + a dark subject when focus-linked spot metering is used.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 yeah, same for me. I'm using personally old A7 II and to be honest auto exposure is trash, really inconsistent.
Love the banter and competitive nature of you two. Very entertaining!
Oh - your camera info is top notch too!
good job guys. I love your reviews!
Never I thought I would see the day that the 85mm 1.4 GM being labeled as "old"
4 year? 5 year? It's pretty old fore sure, I think the 70-200 GM came out around the same time too
@@drewholmes9946 If you said that about a camera body, then I wouldn't argue, but for a lens even 10 years is not a long time. If the lens is brilliant for start it won't suddenly become outdated when a new lens come out
Sony needs to up these two lenses damn it
well it makes amazing pics, but it does not have the latest AF hypersonic tech from Sony
That’s sound kind of sad in regards to your life expectancy.
Yeah... 30fps if you can keep the lens on.
Awesome winter hat Chelsea!
... If you can keep the lens on... That's hilarious 😂.
Both great cameras. With the R5 Canon took a little while to release a firmware update to fix a few early issues and I expect Sony will do the same. Beta testing is never the same as full real world use. I would say I have been a Sony user for years and currently have the a9i and a7riv and have never accidentally released the lens even when using a long wildlife lens with teleconverters attached.
Glad I tuned in today! Great seeing Tony and Chelsea’s moves! That was the best part! I’d like to see Chelsea do a jump shot up to 8 feet n do a swisher while applying make up and Tony doing a 16 foot jump while reviewing the latest Pentax!! That might be interesting!!
This is the worst review I've ever seen. There is no information about the settings used for focus. There is two differen cameras in the hands of two different users. I really hope people who want to know more about these two cameras searches elsewhere to find good and accurate information about the camera. Either Sony or Canon. The evaluation from this review is based on personal thoughts, level of skill and level of understanding the cameras settings. Or rather lack of them. I usually trust your reviews but this time I'm a bit shocked.
Stop being so emotionally attached to gears or brands. It is embarrassing.
A few bird photographers have released EVF videos of the bird autofocusing and its amazing, much more amazing than this video. I honestly think tony & chelsea released this video for views and click baits. pretty disappointing i tell ya
Cringe
hahahaha
Very informative. Thank you! The A1 costs more than fifty percent more, but is still beaten soundly. Can you do video as well?
By far the best video u guys ever made. It was smooth, to the point and very enjoyable to watch. The cameras? I’m happy with mine but if I would have won the r5 in the contest it would be a different story. I would likely use it as a second camera on a tripod somewhere. I will never be a Sony guy, it’s a ‘thing’ I have with them. Canon, owned a few but the weight of these guys was getting a little too much, so I went in a different direction. Again, it was informative and one can see the enormous amount of work u guys did. Now the video. Opening clip, slight audio echo in the room u were in. Quality, perfect. Editing, perfect. Content, again, smooth even when doing your ‘commercial’. Thank you.
I'd like to see you guys compare the two with more prime lenses. I use the Zeiss Batis 40mm f2 and Batis 85mm f1.8 (on an A7III) at weddings all the time and I always get auto eye focus. I know that there's several reasons why the A7III would be different, but it'd be interesting to see the A1 go against the Canon with faster and more up to date lenses. Thank you both for putting these videos together all the time. Your videos were such a great resource when I was first starting to learn a few years ago.
I like how he says “only 20 FPS” 😂
20 FPS is nothing to sneeze at. I don’t know of a sport shooter who would be upset at that rate
Here’s me with my 3fps A7ii, what is life with 20
@@benjaminthorpe7990 wish I knew. My Eos R doesn’t get close
@@rtyler1869 i totally agree
My D800 does 4 lol. Anything above 7 feels exotic to me
"...or a panda." 20 point slap down for Chelsea. 😊
Great video guys! I didn't even skip the ads :)
My first comment on your site...I've been watching for a long time and I believe this is my favorite post from you guys. Great comparison and I hope you two keep doing this kind of comparison. Great job, and entertaining. What more can anyone ask?
6:39 Price was never been significant drawback for you guys when Canon R5 was expansive that Sony or Nikon.
But now when a1 is expensive than r5, it's turn out that it's drawback :)
He has used sony's old lense , go and watch Jared Polin reviews.
Better yet. Look at Mark Galer's whole debunking of this entire review!
@@cogmission1 IMO, the significance of this video is the comparison between different cameras.
Mark Galer works for Sony.
In his video, only the advantages of Sony will be mentioned.
Thank you guys, I love your work
I have Canon L glass, 20 years old (not the update V2, or V3 of these L glass) so I wonder how much I would lose with the Canon R5 in this type of dynamic focusing? Also what gear did you use to make the video. Thanks in advance for any information.
Yeah, something feels a bit off here, though. Mark Galer has been getting 30 FPS shooting fast action in a variety of types with absolutely no issue whatsoever. The 70-200 and 85 GM are going to be replaced, too. The eye AF focusing on the eye lashes is interesting, though.
The R5 was focusing on the dog's nose! :-). These things happen - probably one isn't better than the other for AF?
Well at least I know Canon has caught up with Sony Autofocus, thats the only thing I needed to hear
Loved this video! Great humor and facts! Best combo!
It's great what these two cameras can do when you need it. If you take the Sigma lenses for the Sony cameras, the total price for the Sony becomes somewhat relative. But my conclusion is, that for a Sony/Canon user there is no reason to change the system, if you mainly shoot landscapes/architecture you can also use the Z7 or SR1.
15:50 Wild 'Fro spotted!
And me spotted finally your comment about 'Fro. Almost did quit my search but this finding was huge Win for a J.P. fan like me! :D Also thinking editor of this video put that moment of the clip for reason XD
I see that boy Jared Polin at 15:50 timeline...😂😂😂😂😂what camera he using for that sport game?
Guys great content. You guys listening to your audience. I’m in the middle and I’m enjoying it. Don’t know if it’s me but I seem to really enjoy competition videos.
Like I watched a competition when a photographer was using the Canon RP and the lady was using a 5D4.
After that I ordered an EOS R immediately. It was almost an unfair advantage. 😃
You are one of the few photography channels to actually test products the correct way, in the real world with the best lenses.
Wrong lens for the A1. Sony 70 200 GM doesn't have the new motors for 30fps focus. That is like a 5/6 year old lens.
It does need updating but it's still the lens most sports shooters would use for court and field sports.
@@jaegerschtulmann but which 70-200 2.8 would you use for the Sony? Third party lenses will not allow 30fps.
And having a 70-200 2.8 lens is *essential* for most photographers, especially for sports photographers.
own and r6 and still have been waiting for this
I'm curious if shooting at f5.6 on the Sony and at f11 on the Canon for wildlife makes any difference at all when it comes to focusing?
LOL saying that you almost disconnected the lens a few times because the lens release button is where it's at is like blaming the gas pedal for your speeding ticket because it's so close to the break pedal.
What?!?!?! 100% user error. Don't blame the camera.
If the R5 is a match for the A1.... what’s the R1 going to offer!
Only it's not. Can't even record to redundant media! A deal breaker for me! Rolling shutter on the R5 is horrendous! The A1 has groundbreaking electronic & mechanical shutter speeds and INFINITE 8K RECORDING when powered using a dummy battery! NOT EVEN A COMPARISON! (Unfortunately because I love Canon colors).
None of that matters for me so I’d still take the R5 plus a decent RF lens for that money.
@@cogmission1 You salty bro....i see ur feeling emotional right now your dear sony got spanked...let it out my bro it's ok to cry like a baby
@@cogmission1 8K VIDEO 30 MINUTES ONLY
Wow. It's clear how much effort went into this. Well done.
yeah! having to include the BMW in every video makes me wonder if it is a tax write off
That was great testing. 😊
Great video, thanks. Could you let us know whether the shutter covering the sensor of the A1 has cured the dust issues you have frequently complained of with your A7R4/3. Also, how does the R5 compare in this respect.
my A9ii covers the sensor when off. It helps. I clean my sensor about every 6 months now, but I usually don't change in the field. If I did, I would turn off the sony, let the shutter close over it, then swap. It covers the sensor after about 5 seconds when you switch off. The A7R4 for whatever reason didn't update the software to do that. Just the A9ii.
19.30 Its the best sports Camera ever made. Have you guys watched your own review yet. Camera that drops its frames is the best camera ever made . Slow Claps tony
SHOCKING !! I’m sorry. You don’t put a teleconverter on a 600 mm lens to evaluate a camera.
Thank you for a very entertaining, informative an unbiased video.
The pics of you both running are really cute. I think it must have been fun for you two.
Aren't those 30fps only in compresed raw?
Because if so, those extra 10frames are just kinda flex.
Most pro sport photographers shoot in jpeg so for them the extra 10fps should be very helpful.
With that said. I certainly would like to see a proper detailed comparison between compressed and uncompressed raw. I did it myself with my a7r4 and was hard pressed to see a difference in Capture One so I now always shoot at compressed to save space.
I'm switching to Sony from Panasonic now and I'll get a7Siii for videos and a7Riv with 61MP for photos... I think thats the best setup for now and I'lll pay 6000$ for both of those cameras instead of 6500$ for a1 only.... What do you guys think?? Please correct me if I'm wrong... My first lenses will be 70-200, 16-35mm and some prime len 1.4 (probably 24 or 34mm) All G master. I know its 10K$ out of pocket but whats better I can get for 10K$ now?!
Get Nikon. Less expensive. MUCH better ergonomics and menus. AF that actually HITS and doesnt frontfocus... AND OMG Them Z-lenses. They're the best.
You can’t ever say what’s better unless you know what’s your uses. But overall, I mean, that’s an overall killer setup for almost any use your gonna do. I would only recommend or add lenses to that kit depending on the shots you need.
Congratulations! The Sony 16-35 F 2.8 GM is one of the finest zoom lenses I´ve ever used, you will enjoy it! The 70-200 F 2.8 GM is nice (some are better), I hope for the Sony 16mm F 1.8 GM for Milky Way and aurora photography 🤩
Hard to say. Here’s the case for A1: Advantage of A1 is its speed. It has more powerful processing, which means it is also more future-proof. There’s lot more chance that autofocus will get continuously updated. A7Riv might get replaced with A7Rv soon and iv will stop getting updated. Also, with SDK being opened up, there’s more chance A1 will get some computational photography upgrades. The A1 sensor might have advantages when taking pics of Aurora Borealis and Astrophotography. Sports and wildlife should also favor A1. 8k video is probably useless and shouldn’t be a deciding factor, but A1’s oversampling 4K video might be of interest. The $500 difference is nothing once you factor in lenses. Hope it helps.
Is there a place where I can download a samples of photos of animals taken with R5 with focal length of 600mm? Especially when an object is around 100-150m away? I find my photos little bit too soft even if the object isnt moving and fstop of around f9.
very helpful video as usual.. in this video at time stamp 7.36 to 7.45 the backroad blur looks very nice and creamy.. can you please share what camera and lens did you use to achieve this.. Thanks.
I am attached with r5 after review