That's one of your best videos, hilarious conversations between Chris and Jordan, and very complete review overall + good to see the correct settings were used to shoot 30fps!
In all seriousness. The real photography news last week wasn't the Sony camera. It was the Fujifilm GFX100S...for $500 less than the Sony A1. Medium format, 100MP, great features with a line up of really good glass. Sony's price point made both the R5 and the GFX100S look really good.
The best camera ever made. Thanks guys. I'm a Leica and Fuji shooter, but hats off to Sony. If I was a professional, there is now only one place to go ....
Pleasantly surprised to see you (a Canadian) wearing a "Stillwater, Oklahoma" tee-shirt, Jordan! I'm from Kansas and attended Kansas State University, but Oklahoma State, in Stillwater, is a fellow Big 12 school. Good job flying solo on this review--stay safe!
I came to the comments here to find out first if anyone else noticed and two if a cause was determined. It was actually a distracting vibrant purple on my monitor not 'hints of purple'
The CGI graphics you included to introduce the overheating segment was impressive. Glad to see all the money I spend watching these videos is being well-spent.
Great job from Jordan, I really enjoyed the stills :) Also, I am very happy that Chris is getting better, I am really looking forward to seeing you two together again!
Ahem (3:25), Lossless compression does not throw away *ANY* infomation. For it to be lossless means that you have to be able to recover the original, bit-for-bit. This has been well understood in the computer biz for decades. (e.g. zip compression). A more recent audio comparison would be Apple's lossless audio compression which will shrink the size of a file by a factor of 2-3.
Chris, it's exciting to see you look much better! I'm glad you're out of the house for the next video! Jordan you look dapper behind your electric drum kit!
Lossless compression doesn’t throw anything away, it uses a lossless compression encoding. Like gzip or lz4 or any of a number of compression formats. One thing I would hope for in a firmware update is “deferred lossless” as an option. Say, go through the uncompressed lossless shots and rewrite them as compressed lossless as a batch operation.
Don’t ever change, you guys. You are GOLD! Love watching your videos. Been following you guys since the days of old on another channel that shall not be named… :-)
Get well soon Chris 👍 Having said that: Jordan, you did a splendid job covering the photocentric aspects of the camera. Yes, the drumshoot looked cool, but no worries, on every other shot you look cool as well. Overall I love how you both wrap your humor and the special chemistry you have around every of your review episodes. Gotta say: really cool gang of two you are 🙂👌🌈🤘🤘🤘
Normally Jordan's color grading is superb but I am noticing clipping in the skin tones (magentas/blues/aquas/greens) during the brighter scenes in this video (outdoors and at the drumkit). Is this because it is limited to 4.2.0 or maybe Cinetone?
Yeah, for the first 5 minutes, the forehead seems to be constantly changing in the red channel as he talks. Its almost as if they left Auto Exposure on... in a snow scene with a white sky, and the subject is wearing a black jacket. Either not the best setup/settings to show off the color science, or something is seriously wrong with the camera! By about 7 minutes in, when we see the blue sky, it seems to sort itself out. Hopefully that was by switching AE off.
Well done, Jordan! Thanks for pulling this one together (and suffering the cold and all). Great video! I especially enjoyed the use of the 135mm GM here. Happy to see Chris looking and feeling much better now, too. Cheers!
Awesome and entertaining review, as always, guys! Glad you're on the mend already, Chris! 💪 Thanks for all the hard work you do on these (esp. Jordan this time doing a solo production outside in the freezing cold ❄️).
Jordan great work, hopefully Chris will not loose his job. 1 question: is it normal that in the darker scene of the video I can see pixelization on the left side of the picture (ca. 12:20minutes of the video)? Where does this come from? Have a nice time Best regards Bernd
Same ergonomics, just love it when the finger knuckles rubbing against the lens and pinky hangs out and missing the grip.It must be cold over there , so cold to get orange face.
Great review, Jordan! This is why I turn to DpReview first. You've pointed out all the caveats that the other "influence" click-bait algorithm bound youtubers haven't. Great job!
Lossless isn't supposed to throw away any data (and I hope it doesn't). The way this works on most cameras is ZIP or a similar algorithm is applied on top of raw sensor data.
Menu is probably hardware side process, like the way Apples M1 chip has separate hardware h265 side process, and encryption side process built in. Edit: The chips running cameras aren’t general processors like snapdragons or intel chips, they’re more like the chips that runs Bluetooth or the chips in USB cables.
What is going on with the colors in the drum scene. Tones on your face are all over the place. Either badly graded or something went wrong there. You didn't write the settings you shot in during that scene.
Please when doing the running test give it a bit of a challenge like turning your head to the side or running in and out of frame or running on a bit more of an angle like you would get all the time in actual sports. Or things like having your hand in front of your face briefly or putting your head down. Running towards the camera looking directly at it the whole is actually a pretty weak test.
Thanks for that. BTW Lossless compressed Raw doesn't throw anything away, needed or not, it just shrinks repeating info to make the whole thing smaller... when you uncompress the data it's 100% identical to an uncompressed raw. Also were your over-heating times with the option to let it get a lot hotter enabled? As they still default to not enabling that presumably there are some down-sides, any idea what (does it just get really hot)? Oh and have you tested the R5 heating with the new firmware yet or just the R6?
Waiting for the A7R5 that I'm told will track that chipmunk's eyes while its head is in the ziplock bag! Great content as usual :) Hoping for Chris to feel better soon.
We finally got it confirmed that Chris has been holding Jordan back. You see how much fun Jordan was having and how the production value was just so high. Maybe we just need to see Chris in a new light.
The whole image is kinda jumping frequently at 1:11 and following and 3:45 and following. Could be seen in the left lower corner. whats going on? stabilizer going ham? is the a1 too excited to see jordan ? Seems like a windy day. - Anyway great video Jordan!
regarding lossless compression : "it finds some smart ways to throw away some information that is not going to be useful at all" --> that would be the philosophy behind "lossy". It's not what lossless compression does. Lossless compression tries to summarize repetitive patterns and map them into a compressed file. On decompression, the map is used to "inflate" the file back. Well, many better definitions exist :D... But nice review, as always ! thanks !
I love you guys, but could you not have waited an extra week or so until Chris is out of isolation? This review is perhaps the biggest of the year and would have been so much more fun with the both of you together.
Really well carried, Jordan. Congrats! Thinking back on how reluctant you were to get in front of the camera in the early days. And the way you guys laugh off Canadian winter - impressive. As for the camera... as an α7iii shooter, it sure is tempting! Although of course we're also all curious about what the α7iv will bring.
@@AndyLSB it requires “almost no grading”. As it stands, it’s more likely that he borked the magentas himself and didn’t notice. Or maybe the screen you’re viewing the video on isn’t calibrated properly, or you might be partially colourblind, etc etc. The default assumption you made can be as easily explained by any number of factors. The fact that he found the colours fit for public release after he himself graded them should cause you to be curious about why they look off to you, whether they look off to people on average, and if he would release badly graded footage. I could care less about the camera as I’m not going to dump that much money into a body for hobby use, but I do think people should try to be better critical thinkers
@@perilthecat Ok first of all do you have a personal issues or something ? If now one says anything about the colors then he might not notice, second of all my monitor IS calibrated and I'm not color blinded which it would be something you don't have to care about and third calm down because that's why people ask questions, to know what happened, that is why I asked what is wrong with the colors.
Agree for the in-body pixel shift image, also would love to have an in body HDR stacked image. Next would love to have more dynamic range at least 15 stops or even higher, and a better in body image stabilization. A built in electronic variable ND would be great and finally with the next version would love to have 24 fps lossless compressed raw up to 1 minute or 1440 images, and 4:3 sensor with 4:3 anamorphic video mode
Looks like Jordan got a hold of Kasey's Demon LUT for the drum segment 😂. In all seriousness, nice job Jordan! Good to hear Chris is feeling better too.
How you know, a videographer is trying to do a photography review: He thinks, photographers wear headphones while shooting and he constantly talks about MBits regarding filesizes :-D
You look so cool behind that drum-kit!
I agree, Jordan looks cool with the drum kit.
Also, good to hear Chris is doing well
I don't know that I agree with that, but I agree his wife is very sweet to tell him he looks cool.
Somehow I always thought that Jordan is a drum guy, while Chris is more a guitar dude. I'm pretty much sure he collects Strats in his basement.
And I heard familiar female voice.
did he get covid or something
"Play the shutter sound through headphones..." yup, that a video guy testing still shooting...!
I just love Jordan’s stunned mullet look when the stills instructions, portraits, sports and night club setting are mentioned
Must be cold, Jordan’s sitting on the rock like a toddler that’s gotta pee.
Evelyn is now Jordan's Jordan.
He seems a little underdressed for the weather.
@@ThomasS17 It''s a young-guy-on-the-prairies-in-winter thing. Usually it's a jean jacket and tee shirt.
@@petermclennan6781 I'm in the prairies wearing a hoodie and shorts in -40c weather indoors
@@ThomasS17 Understatement of the century.
I do not understand why he thought that was appropriate for the weather.
Worried for him!
Jordan, you DO look cool behind that drum kit
If he shows the drum kit, PLAY the drum kit!
That's one of your best videos, hilarious conversations between Chris and Jordan, and very complete review overall + good to see the correct settings were used to shoot 30fps!
Probably the most fun and efficient camera reviews one can watch right now - thanks guys
The drum kit looks so cool in front of you!
In all seriousness. The real photography news last week wasn't the Sony
camera. It was the Fujifilm GFX100S...for $500 less than the Sony A1.
Medium format, 100MP, great features with a line up of really good
glass.
Sony's price point made both the R5 and the GFX100S look really good.
The best camera ever made. Thanks guys. I'm a Leica and Fuji shooter, but hats off to Sony. If I was a professional, there is now only one place to go ....
Pleasantly surprised to see you (a Canadian) wearing a "Stillwater, Oklahoma" tee-shirt, Jordan! I'm from Kansas and attended Kansas State University, but Oklahoma State, in Stillwater, is a fellow Big 12 school. Good job flying solo on this review--stay safe!
I am truly amazed at how humble, soft-spoken, gentle and down-to-earth the presenters on this channel are. ❤
Why do you have hints of purple on your face in the drum kit shot?
Something is way wrong with the color when he is outside 4:20
He's thawing out.
I came to the comments here to find out first if anyone else noticed and two if a cause was determined. It was actually a distracting vibrant purple on my monitor not 'hints of purple'
@@jtalstad I noticed it, too. It's impossible not to! Surprised more haven't commented...
I saw it mainly at around 11:40
The CGI graphics you included to introduce the overheating segment was impressive. Glad to see all the money I spend watching these videos is being well-spent.
Good to see the review coming out fast. Hope Chris is doing well too.
Great job from Jordan, I really enjoyed the stills :) Also, I am very happy that Chris is getting better, I am really looking forward to seeing you two together again!
Your “La Dolce Vita” poster definitely wins you major bonus points. Excellent review!
Ahem (3:25), Lossless compression does not throw away *ANY* infomation. For it to be lossless means that you have to be able to recover the original, bit-for-bit. This has been well understood in the computer biz for decades. (e.g. zip compression). A more recent audio comparison would be Apple's lossless audio compression which will shrink the size of a file by a factor of 2-3.
I can't believe you don't already have 300k subscribers. Your reviews are a really good watch.
Chris, it's exciting to see you look much better! I'm glad you're out of the house for the next video! Jordan you look dapper behind your electric drum kit!
That intro was brilliant
Lossless compression doesn’t throw anything away, it uses a lossless compression encoding. Like gzip or lz4 or any of a number of compression formats. One thing I would hope for in a firmware update is “deferred lossless” as an option. Say, go through the uncompressed lossless shots and rewrite them as compressed lossless as a batch operation.
Don’t ever change, you guys. You are GOLD! Love watching your videos.
Been following you guys since the days of old on another channel that shall not be named… :-)
This thing might be the Camera of the Year 2021.
Get well soon Chris 👍 Having said that: Jordan, you did a splendid job covering the photocentric aspects of the camera. Yes, the drumshoot looked cool, but no worries, on every other shot you look cool as well.
Overall I love how you both wrap your humor and the special chemistry you have around every of your review episodes. Gotta say: really cool gang of two you are 🙂👌🌈🤘🤘🤘
7:41 Chipmunk? LOL that's a squirrel!
Where's Camera Conspiracies to clear this stuff up when you need him
No S-Cinetone on the a7Siii yet :'( Can you fellas give Sony a shout to sort their shit out. Great vid as always!
Nice job, Jordan. You can see/hear his video roots showing when he talks about RAW photo file sizes in Mbps. 😜
Jordan: I will record a professional video with proper mike and headphones.
Chris: Hey look what I found down the back of the sofa.
Purple eye make-up, or Sony skin tones? 🤔
His wife thought the purple eye shadow would look rock and roll with the drum kit. 🤣 She was right! 👍
legit the worst skin tones I've ever seen
😂not sure if that's from the camera or because it was probably
Or reflected light from an off-camera surface or Evelyn's clothing perhaps?
...guessing it was mixed light sources and a compromise grading / white balance. But yeah, not pretty (but cool...).
@@NORWAYORNOWAY or maybe it is some kind of "tile and orange" processing that makes weird colors
Normally Jordan's color grading is superb but I am noticing clipping in the skin tones (magentas/blues/aquas/greens) during the brighter scenes in this video (outdoors and at the drumkit). Is this because it is limited to 4.2.0 or maybe Cinetone?
I'd say tis Cinetone.
4:2:0 is only for 8k, otherwise it's 4:2:2, and also, if you downsample 4:2:0, you get 4:2:2 anyway.
Yeah, for the first 5 minutes, the forehead seems to be constantly changing in the red channel as he talks. Its almost as if they left Auto Exposure on... in a snow scene with a white sky, and the subject is wearing a black jacket. Either not the best setup/settings to show off the color science, or something is seriously wrong with the camera! By about 7 minutes in, when we see the blue sky, it seems to sort itself out. Hopefully that was by switching AE off.
4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 barely effects the image outside of things like keying greenscreens. It's most likely Cinetone and their exposure.
There may be a drawback to Jordan being in front rather than behind the camera...
Well done, Jordan! Thanks for pulling this one together (and suffering the cold and all). Great video! I especially enjoyed the use of the 135mm GM here. Happy to see Chris looking and feeling much better now, too. Cheers!
I came here for the drums, and boy did you deliver!
The photos from when Jordan is running is truly amazing.
Awesome and entertaining review, as always, guys! Glad you're on the mend already, Chris! 💪 Thanks for all the hard work you do on these (esp. Jordan this time doing a solo production outside in the freezing cold ❄️).
You look cool behind the e-set, Jordan. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
Glad to see you’re feeling better Chris. I’d love to see Jordan record an episode on a Sony a5100. Lol!
Best hybrid camera of all time.
Chris who? Absolutely brilliant effort from Jordan. No weak links in this team.
Man, behind the drumkit....your skintone and eyes are just looking SO....Sooooooo.....soooo...George-Romero-good!
Jordan great work, hopefully Chris will not loose his job. 1 question: is it normal that in the darker scene of the video I can see pixelization on the left side of the picture (ca. 12:20minutes of the video)? Where does this come from? Have a nice time Best regards Bernd
I haven't had my 9M2 very long and already I'm upgrading to the monster.
Same ergonomics, just love it when the finger knuckles rubbing against the lens and pinky hangs out and missing the grip.It must be cold over there , so cold to get orange face.
Great review, Jordan! This is why I turn to DpReview first. You've pointed out all the caveats that the other "influence" click-bait algorithm bound youtubers haven't. Great job!
Love it, specially when a videographer reviews the photo functions Mr "Megabit" :D
Yep good to see Chris doing well.
Lossless isn't supposed to throw away any data (and I hope it doesn't). The way this works on most cameras is ZIP or a similar algorithm is applied on top of raw sensor data.
If you do long format video, you can power the camera with a dummy battery and it won't overheat at all.
Could you elaborate on that please.
@@youngmo77 instead of powering the camera with a regular battery, you can plug in a dummy battery and power the camera off the wall.
Any reason the a7iii menus couldn't be updated too? It's just software after all.
Menu is probably hardware side process, like the way Apples M1 chip has separate hardware h265 side process, and encryption side process built in.
Edit: The chips running cameras aren’t general processors like snapdragons or intel chips, they’re more like the chips that runs Bluetooth or the chips in USB cables.
Love the blue eyes behind the drum kit.
You guys really rolled with the punches and I've really enjoyed your covid affected videos. Real professionals.
What is going on with the colors in the drum scene. Tones on your face are all over the place. Either badly graded or something went wrong there. You didn't write the settings you shot in during that scene.
Yeah that was very strange.
Someone suggested S-cinetone
Please when doing the running test give it a bit of a challenge like turning your head to the side or running in and out of frame or running on a bit more of an angle like you would get all the time in actual sports. Or things like having your hand in front of your face briefly or putting your head down. Running towards the camera looking directly at it the whole is actually a pretty weak test.
Thanks for that. BTW Lossless compressed Raw doesn't throw anything away, needed or not, it just shrinks repeating info to make the whole thing smaller... when you uncompress the data it's 100% identical to an uncompressed raw.
Also were your over-heating times with the option to let it get a lot hotter enabled? As they still default to not enabling that presumably there are some down-sides, any idea what (does it just get really hot)?
Oh and have you tested the R5 heating with the new firmware yet or just the R6?
They used the a1 for a couple of shots during the Superbowl broadcast today! Very impressive piece of kit.
Excellent as always! Chris getting well is welcomed news! Jordan did a stellar job as always!
“they are pretty manageable files”
laughing in 2015 macbook air
Really enjoying your channel! You guys are hoot to watch and I've learned a lot. Thanks!
The drum kit works, J. Always listen to the lady. It was nice to see Sony break from their habit of 6x sensor base. Knew it would do well.
Is camera able to inform the user what is squirrel and what is chipmunk😁?
haha xD
Waiting for the A7R5 that I'm told will track that chipmunk's eyes while its head is in the ziplock bag! Great content as usual :) Hoping for Chris to feel better soon.
i want the eye tracking when the animal is no longer there...
I LOVE rock n roll Jordan! Step aside Chris there's a new sheriff in town!
Great to hear Chris is feeling better
We finally got it confirmed that Chris has been holding Jordan back. You see how much fun Jordan was having and how the production value was just so high. Maybe we just need to see Chris in a new light.
Shooting this was hell. I want my Chris back.
@@thatjordandrake Can you film him in pink light for Valentines. Chris seems like such a romantic
Thumbs up for your work in this difficult time!
BEST CAMERA CHANNEL, PERIOD.
10:40 Awesome posters, I particularly love Jules et Jim!
7:02 my god that is impressive continuous AF. One of those things Sony does not pull any punches on when they want to is auto focus.
Great job Chris and Jordan, despite the winter environment and the disastrous pandemic. And the stills of the little ones - charming..
Everybody comments on how you look cool because of the drums, but I have to add that you got some good taste in cinema too.
I used to own 3 Pentax K-01s. I still have 2 of them!
And do you still own a K-1 or is it sold ? (just out of curiosity)
@@jeanleguique4280 I still have my K-1 and Q. Sold my K-3 and one of the K-01s.
Thanks for the review, guys. I can empathize with Jordan trying to film and put on a brave face in extreme cold :)
UK viewer....love you pair, one of my regular much watch photo / video teams on CZcams....great team and always fun to watch
Always default to your reviews. Brilliantly informative and always fun.
The whole image is kinda jumping frequently at 1:11 and following and 3:45 and following. Could be seen in the left lower corner. whats going on? stabilizer going ham? is the a1 too excited to see jordan ? Seems like a windy day. - Anyway great video Jordan!
Windy day blowing the monopod around. I'll drag a tripod out next time.
regarding lossless compression : "it finds some smart ways to throw away some information that is not going to be useful at all" --> that would be the philosophy behind "lossy". It's not what lossless compression does. Lossless compression tries to summarize repetitive patterns and map them into a compressed file. On decompression, the map is used to "inflate" the file back. Well, many better definitions exist :D... But nice review, as always ! thanks !
I was finally relaxed when you put on the down jacket
Fab review Jordan, nailed it. 📸😷✌️
Love your duo guys.
You rock. Thanks for the review
This camera with the fuji xt3 screen articulation is pretty much perfect
Dang ... got to wait for the Alpha 1 ii for a toggle mode selection lock...
I love you guys, but could you not have waited an extra week or so until Chris is out of isolation? This review is perhaps the biggest of the year and would have been so much more fun with the both of you together.
Good to see Chris near full recovery. Must be a Canadian thing to wear leather jacket in the snow
Really well carried, Jordan. Congrats! Thinking back on how reluctant you were to get in front of the camera in the early days.
And the way you guys laugh off Canadian winter - impressive.
As for the camera... as an α7iii shooter, it sure is tempting! Although of course we're also all curious about what the α7iv will bring.
Haptic feedback on the shutter would be my choice for a mirrorless camera when shooting silent. I just want to feel it. That’s what she said. 🤪
what's wrong with the colors ? 11:02 actually in various portions of the video the Magentas look super intense and almost purple sometimes
You, uh... you did see that Jordan graded the video from s-cinetone, right? So if the tones are magenta... it’s his fault.
@@perilthecat that's why I'm asking what's wrong ? In S-Cinetone you don't have to grade basically, It already gives a Rec709 look
@@AndyLSB it requires “almost no grading”. As it stands, it’s more likely that he borked the magentas himself and didn’t notice. Or maybe the screen you’re viewing the video on isn’t calibrated properly, or you might be partially colourblind, etc etc. The default assumption you made can be as easily explained by any number of factors.
The fact that he found the colours fit for public release after he himself graded them should cause you to be curious about why they look off to you, whether they look off to people on average, and if he would release badly graded footage.
I could care less about the camera as I’m not going to dump that much money into a body for hobby use, but I do think people should try to be better critical thinkers
@@perilthecat Ok first of all do you have a personal issues or something ? If now one says anything about the colors then he might not notice, second of all my monitor IS calibrated and I'm not color blinded which it would be something you don't have to care about and third calm down because that's why people ask questions, to know what happened, that is why I asked what is wrong with the colors.
Jordan did this as a rush job, by himself, so stop bullying him about the tiny quality difference to usual.
Agree for the in-body pixel shift image, also would love to have an in body HDR stacked image. Next would love to have more dynamic range at least 15 stops or even higher, and a better in body image stabilization. A built in electronic variable ND would be great and finally with the next version would love to have 24 fps lossless compressed raw up to 1 minute or 1440 images, and 4:3 sensor with 4:3 anamorphic video mode
Jordan, your wife is right, you do look cool with your drum kit. 👏
Good to hear you are feeling better.
That deadpan humor was over the top!
Jordan has ascended!!!!!
If you do get to 300K, my vote for Jordan's camera is an Alexa LF. He's earned it.
Ah, my favourite review channel.
Good job Jordan 👏🏻 very enjoyable review
Great job Jordan. Way to take one for the team. Get well soon, Chris.
Great job Jordan, and of course you look cool
Looks like Jordan got a hold of Kasey's Demon LUT for the drum segment 😂. In all seriousness, nice job Jordan! Good to hear Chris is feeling better too.
I was more intrigued to see how that red led light was handled !
How you know, a videographer is trying to do a photography review: He thinks, photographers wear headphones while shooting and he constantly talks about MBits regarding filesizes :-D
You mean,we should not shot with our BEATS headphones on to shoot better?I mean,who needs to hear while they are in NYC walking around??hehehehe