Fiat Panda 4x4 vs Range Rover - Fifth Gear
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2014
- In this classic Fifth Gear clip, Tom Ford puts the Fiat Panda 4x4 against the powerful Range Rover!
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Series 1 Panda 4x4 was one of the best-kept secrets of Alpine farmers.
The current model is almost as good.
Both the 4x4 Pandas are thorough and capable off-roaders.
No cachet. No snob value. Just a thorough little beastie.
I've had two Defenders and a Panda 4x4 and the Panda is by far the better car both on slime and tarmac. The Defenders win on ground clearance, but the Panda is much better on mud, snow and ice because it's so light. It also doesn't dissolve like the Defenders, and after 6 years nothing has broken on it - whereas the Defenders ate up weekends with endless stupid things that needed fixing. The Panda has more room inside than the Defender 90 I had. Also, the road tax on the Panda is 15 times cheaper than the Defenders. The Panda has insanely long service intervals, and they're dead easy to do yourself. Brakes and tyres last forever because its so light. And it doesn't leak, or have massive drafts blasting through it like a Defender.
And with the money I saved with the Panda I stuck a tow hook on it and bought a trailer. And it's a surprisingly good tow car. I've moved house twice with it.
The Defender is a better car to be in if you hit a deer. Though the deer will cause enough mechanical damage as it makes its way under the car to keep you busy for a few weekends.
The panda is honestly a crossover done right.
relatively proper 4x4 system, decent ground clearance and thats it.
where the panda got stuck was the drivers fault not the car.
The Range Rover took that path and had no problem... Fiat lose. Still both are bad cars.
@@fredrikalfson1541 to me it looked as he took that turn sharper on purpose
@@carta8399 maybe he did, i cant see any difference thou. Still both are shitty cars. :)
@@fredrikalfson1541 lol
@@fredrikalfson1541 I like them both actually, but panda 4x4 is fun to drive, also it is affordable
They were both later sold as "new perfect condition" demo cars.
Checked both registrations today - the Range Rover is still on the road but the Fiat hasn't been taxed since 2009. It may have been a fifth of the cost but it had a quarter of the service life.
it only lost cause the plonker has no idea how to pick an offroad line haha
Panda; one of the best little (2nd hand) winter cars you can buy. Fantastic practical car which doesn't stupid money to fix unlike older Range Rovers which will empty your bank account when all those expensive bits start failing. Keep your pride and joy off the road in the winter and get yourself a Panda 4x4.
+Keyboard Dancers I always say, if your car makes you happy you made a good choice.And there is something about the panda that I love it has a sense of humor, it has nothing to prove and James May owns one!! :)
I'm not sure thats a good indication....... not sure I would buy any of them would. There isn't much mentaily there.
Keyboard Dancers I
+Overboost 1.6 bar Hm, how comes you know what kind of music it is? ;-)
I just have a normal panda.. Can't drive (Legally) yet but it's there and I really like it. Can't wait to get on the road.
2:07 assholes go...
+Quagmirian
i'ts rather big...
+Quagmirian LMAO
+Quagmirian I understood the same xD
As holes not &&!!,9
The 4x4 fiat is one of the best small offroaders ever!
This race is irrelevant, Its totally missing the point of an off road test. Its not about speed its about off road capability.
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@@raulmerchan2033 wtf dude....
Well said James 🤙🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yes but Panda struggled in the music slope that is the "most off-road part"
PS im italian
@@giorgiotek-604 You're right, but it would still have been better to see how they tackle certain obstacles one by one.
I once beat a 4x4 through some snow with a right kangoo 4x4 with similar technology. The only downside was that when descending a hill we were back in 2 wheel drive and the back end was all over the place. Nevertheless, both the kangoo and panda 4x4 are favourite little ski cars here in France and in Italy where they tend to fit them with good snow tyres. (legal requirement in Italy).
Thé Panda it's my car.
In Savoy from France.
Courchevel.
She's the best on the snow.
you should drive it to the airport
Panda in Italy is a legendary car especially the 4x4... I'm not jocking!
So true. My wife and I went to Rome and Amalfi Coast on our honeymoon and noticed that practically all the locals were driving Pandas. Wish we had them here in the U.S.
@@jasongalang3813 Yes, the Fiat Panda in Italy is like a religion, all of Italy loves this car
In particular the supernova variant of the 4x4
They had them at Mt Vesuvius for service/ rescue vehicles, even had a couple of original style, I have a two wheel drive, it is still good on some agricultural roads, great mileage and cheap to insure. Despite being 6'4 my next vehicle will be a Panda, and the one after that,
I rather have the Fiat Panda 4x4 if I have the opportunity of it. The Panda was rather more cute but still it's a good off-roader and it was much cheaper than the Range Rover. The Range Rover's air suspension system was prone to leak air, causing the car sacked weirdly to one of the side of the car, and most of the buyers stayed away from the car once it was out of warranty. In addition to that, parking, that's the thing that anyone should pay attention to that when buying a 4x4, bigger ones like Range Rover would took more than a minute to park in a tight spot, for the Panda in my opinion, it may be a 4x4 but it also smaller than the Range Rover, the overhang was much shorter so I think it can park in a tight spot in a less time than the Range Rover. One more, the Panda's repair cost may also cheaper too, that's the reason why I chose the Fiat Panda 4x4. I hope you people may agree my opinion.
Pps
A tiny Fiat capable of keeping up with Britain's pride, the Range Rover?
Fiat 1 - Rover *embarrassing*
+Teo P Britain's pride? What's wrong with you? It's a 4x4 luxury car that's happens to be British... The test has nothing to do with nationality but the comparison of what a small cheap 4x4 can do compared to one of the big, expensive ones. I seriously think lots of people in the comments are simply here trying to cause aggravation. Basically, get a life.
Hmmm... I think it is you taking it too seriously. Just like Jeep is America's pride (in 4x4s that is), so is Land/Range Rover for Britain. It's no big deal, just cool how a little awd car from a country not synonymous with 4x4s (out of rally) is capable of keeping up with one of the best performing, and most luxurious ones. Cheers ;)
+Teo P
Imagine if it was a Lada 4x4 vs Range Rover.... the Lada is cheaper, smaller, no overhangs and has one of the best 4x4 systems in the world
That's because the course is way too easy
+Teo P What's embarrassing is that Range Rover belongs to Tata motor and so is an indian car.
For it's price not a bad thing :)
Old Panda had solid rear axle and mechanical lever to engage rear wheels. It could not get stuck.
Me and my brother in law ( as well as the rest of the family) took a holiday to a rural area, and he wasn't delighted when my Panda out performed his off-road customised defender on country lanes.
The thing is though, his car fit a full suit of five passengers, luggage, and his grandad mobility scooter, and his grandma's wheelchair.
That's the difference really, I love my Panda but it seems strange that it's a controversial subject that it can climb as well as/ marginally better than something much bigger and heavier
Fiat Panda is a very good car
Range rovers better
@@JBurnsJourno k fanboy
@@Riccksu I don't even like the range rover
God no, fiat and Range Rover both make awful cars
@@nathansummit2840 have you ever had a Fiat or a Land Rover?
Why did they even need 4x4s 90% of what they drove was pretty compacted flat trail just travelling momentum would have taken any car over it.
Because if there was any mud, the rover would get stuck right away cause of its weight. True that panda could have been 2x2, it would not make a difference for its 900kg weight. For proper 4x4 test you need a lot of mud or snow, still superlight FWDs (not only panda) can perform as good as that heavy piece of expensive and unreliable landrover that is not really for offroad driving...
La panda con gomme adatte è inarrestabile, la range è una nave con le ruote, pesante e ingombrante.
Infatti l aoenzo così nache io d cmq il guidatore era veramente inguardabile...
Roberto Caputo bla bla bla
E poi le chiamano i migliori SUV, mah
@@Manuel-zc7po non è che le chiamano..... lo sono
James May vs Jeremy Clarkson
You should try the old panda 4x4, the best car ever made
Find one first, most of them rusted away *lol*
+Sirion The old panda is a strange car, more old, rusted and spoiled it is, more it work
It is an unstoppable car ( until a drunk oak tree crash into xD)
Sirion sir, where i live here in italy, 1/20 of all cars are old 4x4 pandas
Sirion what lol, i see 10 of them everyday lol
@@miskatonic6210 I see 5 to 10 pandas every day on average. And most are in pretty good conditions. (I live in tuscany)
We need a car like the Panda here in the US. One that's tough yet doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
That's what the Jeep Renegade is. Remember than Fiat owns Chrysler now.
celderian
Or Subaru's Justy! 4WD+Subcompact car = epic lol.
celderian A much better example is the XV Crosstrek. Base model vs base model, the Crosstrek offers nearly 2" more ground clearance, 3mpg more across the board, better standard options, and is very similar in body size.
Also has higher reliability reports, much better resale value, much better AWD.
At 8.7" clearance, even the Renegade Trailhawk can't compete.
ever heard of Subaru?
You cant get fiats in the US? Wow thats sad!
my first car was a cream coloured panda, 900 cc. good old memories
The thing to mention is, that 99,99% of all Range Rover never even see a road like your place for testing.
What’s ur point? I dare say 99.99% of pandas also never see a road like the place of testing either! Either way the Range Rover was better so get over it!
I have a 110 defender and a 4x4 panda and it really is a great little vehicle. Very capable off road for it's dimensions and more economical than using the land rover daily for not too rough trips.
2:07 Tell me you didn't hear "assholes go" at first!
I didin't
solidus24 hahahaahha
lol
I love that 🐼😍. Looks rather nimble . Rather than lumbering through everything, it hops around.
Range Rover = King of offroad ???
Since when? 🧐
No more king after the coming of Toyota, Patrol and Pajero
Small 4x4s are the best all around, like the panda or jimny. More manouver room on trails, can go places big 4x4s can't fit. Light, doesn't bog into soft terrain, doesn't get hung up, better hill approach, easier to extract out of mud.
I've owned big and small, a 03 Hummer H2 it had BF all-terrains, 2 locking diffs, H&L range, and 2 levels of traction control, rear air suspension height control.
I also, at same time, had a 2 door 98 Rav4, with center lock diff, no traction control, no nothing, just all terrain tires.
I had more fun in the Rav4.
James May's car (if you know what it is)
Panda
James may drives an electric bmw i3 now
captain slow of course
Lmao
The content is actually pretty cool, it's just a shame that the presentation is direly superficial.
Really interesting comparison!
Love the Panda 4X4. You really don't see enough of them around
Different Tires are quite an easy modification, or even just a regular change as tires have to be replaced anyways after 2-3 seasons.
So someone could just put some chunkier rubber on these and the Off-Road Performance would most likely change dramatically.
Why not try that out?
Are there any Mods for the Diffs on the Panda?
Me saco el sombrero con Fiat.🇦🇷🇮🇹
*The guitar sole in the beginning- what’s the name of song?*
Id love to see one of these with some proper offroading bits, bet even back in the day 2k or so (meatier tires, bit of a lift, maybe some sort of locker out back assuming its not limited slip.) Would leave a range rover in the dust when it gets hairy
Most owners won't even go off-road.
No, but its nice to have a car that can cope with pretty much anything within reason. Thats why i got a new one. The ride is comfy as well
Abdul Ahad In montainous italian regions, many people drive Panda 4x4´s offroad ! Never seen this car in a city. Range Rover drivers are a different story...
so what... most Ferrari's and Porsche's dont ever see a racetrack either... but they can.
Well, the prize ain't right. The Panda 4x4 is c. €7000 more expensive than the "ordinary" Panda. With my Panda 4x4, I drove 325.000 km. Still drive it, and still smiling after a motor revision.
Why smiling after revision?
@@GeGe-gg3zt While it was worth it. Moreover, the revision was due to a minor flaw; it lost it's cooling liquid, and that's fatal.
I'm proud to own a red fiat 4x4 😂👍
I has a panda back in the 90s
Amazing car
I put a broken motor cross bike in the back when it broke down on the beach
It was a big wheel rm 125
I use to Rev the nuts of that little engine and 4 felt like 200 mph
I’d have another today
Long haired Seth Rogen is pretty good in this, love the Panda
There isn't a better small off-road car than the old fiat panda 4x4.
What about a Lada Niva?
iomex Simstuff well i don't have any experience with lada's to be honest :).
The Niva? I owned one. That's what you'd want for Siberian icy winter or summer swampland. Not just a leisure toy - but still relatively comfortable using big screw springs.
In the instruction book they apologize that it will not perform like a military off-road truck ... in fact, an UAZ can pass where a Niva can't, this is what it means.
Suzuki SJ20 SJ30 SJ413...
Chrysler Niva doesn't beat the Suzuki Jimmy except on price... and rust :-). I did like that the Niva ran on nearly any type of gasoline you would present it. Was good to have in countries like Ukraine and Russia.
Per me vince la panda
Mi pare ovvio lol
With a better driver the panda had won
These entire "races" are just a bunch of shots put together. They aren't one continuous run. They are all very much staged.
With equal drivers, the fiat would’ve won because it’s small and light.
back in the early 90s... Automobile magazine did a test of 5 4wd SUV's... 4 doors... the only one that went everywhere that the Range Rover went was the mighty Suzuki Sidekick... yes it was much smaller, and there was one bag in their load-out test that woudn't fit inside the car.. however....
Me & the Mrs went on hols to Sorento,Italy.
Of course we walked up Mt Vesuvius
....the two vehicles used for emergency get-ups where Fiat pandas.....a young women slipped and twisted her ankle......Fiat Panda to the recue.Great views of Naples on a clear day.
Wish the Panda was available here, I'd happily daily drive one.
King of off-road = Range Rover? You mean defender
Alex Reeve you mean the Jeep wrangler or Toyota 4x4s
TheSpector no I absolutely do not...
Alex Reeve oh sorry, you surely meant the Toyota Land Cruiser. my bad.
TheSpector wrong again
damn, than I'm sure you meant the suzuki Jinny/Samurai
I have one question.do we need some special tyres for this kind of terrain(rocks,mud...)or the ordinary tyres are good enough?Thanks.
+eddy m it depends, off road tires are recommended, but i don't know if they are available for every car.
They'll both break down. I wonder which one will be cheaper to fix......... 🤔
I like Fiat panda more..shes sexier
Fun fact: the fiat panda is one the best selling cars in Italy for the fact that are cheaper than the fiat 500 and the rest of fiats line up
Why is the video quality so low? Do you film with VHS or something?
i have a toyota matrix awd/4wd, uses same system as panda with the viscous coupler
Subaru's have the same, amazingly simple yet effective.
This little thing is a badass! :))
0:43, look at his feet as he jumps
on the ground
i saw what you did there, when you jumpen off the Panda...
Given the choice I'd have the RR. In fact, I had an 08 HSE. And now I have a D4.
The Range Rover was never the King of off road! The Toyota Land Cruiser is the King of off road !
yes it is
***** So what car do you think s better? If you are going to say either Landie or a Nissan Patrol then you are wrong the Landcruiser is way better than them at offroading!
well first of all i live in iceland a country where people need often great off road cars. And the Toyota land cruiser is one of the most common car in iceland even when it is more expensive than the Landcover. It is way more reliable then other suv´s and is also better off road.
***** Well why do you think the Land Rover is better ? You will just say the same thing as me!
***** Yeah you are right it is just personal with you like better in the end they are both very capable off road cars !
0:50 what kinda editing is this ?
What Model Year is the Range Rover?
This just popped in my feed and really, when does the off road test start? Watched the whole video and seen no off road driving at all hmmmm
How expensive is it to maintain the 4x4 Panda? What is a common (expensive) problem? The regular Panda is fairly cheap to keep on the road.
I did like the comparison as im looking for a cheap car capable to do some off road , not extreme , and it looks like the panda does it preety well, this video may look like nonsense to many but its very interesting from other point of view
What's that song in 3:07?
"It's still got that *tap tap tap* mountain goat vibe
What is that ment to mean
I’d personally rather take longer in a rangey than be quicker in six fiat pandas!!! It’s not about the destination it’s about the journey afterall right!
"Range Rover is the king of offroad.."
Lada Niva just entered the chat.
Range rover king of the breakdowns! Ask the rac
niva is shite
@@ukranaut i agree!! Had 3 back in day. There fucking shit.
@@ukranaut Nah, that's a simplified truth. Nivas are great for their intended purpose: getting you from A to B no matter if there is a thousand miles of taiga in between. But if it's a fancy pants lawyer in a city looking for some special car to make him/her "unique" in the inner city, they'd better look elsewhere, like Hummer or Dodge Ram, where terrain capability is more of a gimmick than an actual purpose. Basically, a Niva is more of a high speed tractor with great heating than an actual car.
Cheers, mate!
what happens to the ground at 00:48?
that was not a very good test..just taking a random path around a quarry road it seems...
+Maarten van Heek The point is the little cheap car handles a little road just as good as a car that's 10 times more expensive, and let's be serious, nobody buys a panda if he is really serious about off road
+Sutu Camataru Noone buys a Range Rover if he is really serious about off road either because it's more luxurious than off road car. An off road car is ideal when it's not going to be unroadworthy after going through 70 cm deep water (electronics) ;) Moreover imagine loads of mud in your 60000 pounds Range Rover... Ouch! :)
Piotrek Szczerbiński RIght, my point is they are about as good when it comes to offroad, the difference is one is a lot more expensive, the only true SUV good for offroad is the mercedes g-class if you ask me, the rest are bullshit cars for bullshit people
+Sutu Camataru the lr4 is really good off road.
I would go for the panda
Oh my god a CD player!!!!!
2:31 what song
Je ci Abidjan je PE trouve les pièces ?
Should of put it against the Suzuki Jimmy
This is from 2006, they didn't have new Jimny then and it's more expensive than Panda
Some one fetch me a defender 90, range rovers as stock are not meant to go major off-roading
That is my favourite TV car serie
Which will break first ?
For me winner is Panda, without discussion. Isn´t problem to create car that will be capable but very expensive. But do it for cheap!
0:49 that's a nice edit
The song name?? :3
Thinking the panda might be a good first car for around the countryside 🤔
the mk1 fiat panda 4x4 blasting all over 4x4 off road car!!! thats a real true sad story for the other 4x4
If that panda was black and had cooler wheels it would be awesome
why do we see no pandas or toyotas on the off road/trialing circuit?
It is a good car and cheap. Keep going panda.😊
I would like a chance to race a Range Rover into the lake.
That's a nice little model P38 he's go there
Panda, Panda, Pandaaa!!!
0:49 how come a soggy track bounces like a mattress??!
Freelander 2 has good approach angles
I have a yellow Panda like that, but it's not a a 4x4. It is a very economical and reliable car, robust and no-brainer.
What is the song that is on the panda
Dadyvw napalm brain by dj shadow
I had a Panda 4x4 and a range rover... with the right tires and good drive stile Panda is really unstoppable.... believe me try it and after speake
Ah... Vicky Butler-Henderson. (intro) from an era when female presenters wasn't just a box-ticking exercise. She was actually there on merit.
As far as holes go, it's pretty deep
I don't think the Panda 4x4 is suitable for going off-roading as a pastime, but I think it'd be tops if you lived on a dirt road that gets rough, muddy and a bit steep.
Difference is, the panda you can lift out of mud with two guys and elbow grease. A "real man's 4x4" is stuck there until you get a tractor or a bigger 4x4