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What happened to PES?| Why Konami killed Pro Evolution Soccer

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  • čas přidán 24. 01. 2023
  • Pro evolution soccer was made in 2000 and since then competed with fifa very tightly until 2010. Fifa began to double and triple its sales since then. Konami released Efootball in 2022, the worst game of all time. Then in 2023 they redeemed themselves with a much better launch.

Komentáře • 98

  • @franciscopardo6778
    @franciscopardo6778 Před rokem +179

    I really miss pro evolution soccer. I've tried my level best to get on with FIFA but simply can't. PES was always more fun and easy to get on with.

    • @ml6053
      @ml6053 Před 10 měsíci +11

      i miss it i swear pes 2018 and 2019 the best

    • @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156
      @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ml6053czcams.com/video/K_lVUD0RShw/video.htmlsi=oi48Lhu1fXducY_V

    • @markogjorgiev4912
      @markogjorgiev4912 Před 4 měsíci +8

      right???????? I feel like im playing stick football when im playing fifa. PES is much more realistic and enjoyable

    • @ebenezersiaw935
      @ebenezersiaw935 Před měsícem +1

      That means you were not good at FIFA

    • @AryaPra-wc2zj
      @AryaPra-wc2zj Před měsícem +2

      @@ebenezersiaw935 no that means we doesn't understand the complex mechanic of fifa

  • @lastbeer
    @lastbeer Před rokem +65

    For me PES19 always had the most enjoyable gameplay. I don't understand why this version was so unpopular. Maybe because KONAMI lost CL and EL licenses?

  • @thabomothabeng
    @thabomothabeng Před rokem +28

    I rate PES 2009 to this day because it was my first football game. 2016 and 17 also gave me good times

  • @Joker-yu5kp
    @Joker-yu5kp Před 11 měsíci +14

    Konami is an embarrassment,Japan is usually known for quality and its ability to deliver great product but i wonder why konami fell off

  • @HuntDuck
    @HuntDuck Před 11 měsíci +9

    The reason efootball is so different from the pes games is because it's on a new engine, they rebuilt the game from ground up on unreal engine

  • @LuanJaguarREAL
    @LuanJaguarREAL Před rokem +27

    golden era of Konami's PES was actually late 90s and early 2000s. starting with ISS/Winning Eleven games from PS1 to WE/PES games on PS2
    PES ruled that era, until PES 6. after then, FIFA started to improve with 08 to 11 and totally take over with 12-13-14.
    altough FIFA is making same game every year polished with updated kits and rosters since the last 6-7 years, it has no competition anymore

    • @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156
      @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Loool since Pes 15 to 21 Pes won everywhere ! Loool

    • @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156
      @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 Před 5 měsíci

      Do you know on Pes the players run în 8 wars ? Choosing long grass rainy or snowy weather conditions the gameplay feels slower and more fluid while at short dry grass a little bit faster ? OMG you missed the best football games and simulators,not arcade pinball circus fake bubble gum football without substance with many rugby scores 9-5 8-4 etc lol where you put Ronaldo as keeper and he keeps his same rating lol like fifa czcams.com/video/sSxNFpdtjdA/video.htmlsi=uwvuO8TbrWkNJ9D8

    • @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156
      @alessandrodelpierojuventus8156 Před 5 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/K_lVUD0RShw/video.htmlsi=inluKsv9NTorJebo

    • @ismaelbouissef4436
      @ismaelbouissef4436 Před 3 měsíci

      But fifa was more popular​@@alessandrodelpierojuventus8156

    • @nindieboy4194
      @nindieboy4194 Před 27 dny

      This is it. I can't believe people don't see it. Fifa was bad till 07. Pes 5 and pes 6 was peak pes. Since pes 2008 it began to decline sharply

  • @luke8306
    @luke8306 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I recommend Football Life 2024 for PES career mode fans, it's a fan project with original leagues/clubs based on PES 2021.

  • @theemotionalremix
    @theemotionalremix Před rokem +16

    Best Video explaining PES's demise. I really hope they pick up the FIFA license they honestly deserve it.

    • @NewstatePlayer100
      @NewstatePlayer100 Před rokem +1

      Bruh?

    • @MoII260
      @MoII260 Před rokem

      I hope too

    • @focus45554
      @focus45554 Před rokem +2

      Apparently the FIFA license does not give you the license to all the leagues. It just gives you the FIFA name. They would have to buy the licenses separately. That is why EA could easily tell FIFA where to get off when they wanted more money for just 4 letters. Konami needs big pockets.

  • @camerawowo275
    @camerawowo275 Před 3 měsíci +8

    The last good pes was pes 2021 with the euros. With "efootball" 2022 everything went downhill.

    • @Mariam-iw1ub
      @Mariam-iw1ub Před měsícem +2

      Efootball 2022 ruined everything. People still think the player models are trash because of this game and don't bother to give it another try

  • @5thdawg917
    @5thdawg917 Před 8 měsíci +4

    The golden era was from 03-06 on ps2. PES was always had the better game play. But too many kids liked the licensing and the packs and all that other rubbish which for me personally ruined the game and franchise.

  • @paulfowler3039
    @paulfowler3039 Před rokem +8

    I loved pes 2011 where you could slate each other on the text 😂

    • @Vince888
      @Vince888 Před 11 měsíci

      I think it is the best one in my opinion

    • @David-028
      @David-028 Před měsícem

      😂

  • @saindst
    @saindst Před 4 měsíci +2

    Konami spat on all the people that made the game what it was, the game that could keep up with FIFA because of the dedicated fans since PES and even ISS on nintendo. What a way to completely and shamelessly try cash in on a disgusting gaming trend. I hope the company goes bankrupt.

  • @Scentsational1
    @Scentsational1 Před rokem +5

    PES allowed you to download EVERY player/roster/kit/everything!!!!

  • @ETIKUT99
    @ETIKUT99 Před 7 měsíci +3

    PES 2 for the PS1 is one of the best football games ever, to me it’s that and sensible soccer for the mega drive, I still play both games to this day

  • @glennygiovanni
    @glennygiovanni Před 9 měsíci +3

    As someone who grew up early 2000s playing both FIFA & PES (leaned more FIFA then because it was getting annoying to remember that 'Square" was to shoot instead of 'Circle' lol). I actually would be happy if PES or something similar came out to compete with FIFA! i agree, with the lack of competition; FIFA (EAFC) would begin feel like a recycled game. FUT is fun, and i like the house rules/street features. But i think if PES could get the backing, where they'll be allowed to focus on the mechanics, maybe a few important license. EAFC would have to step their game up!

  • @tom0900060
    @tom0900060 Před rokem +7

    efootball is still a joke after 2 years, very minimal actual content and all they do is releasing the same cards weekly

  • @frantotti9754
    @frantotti9754 Před 10 měsíci +4

    The reason because EA was a lot smarter to destroy PES, and Konami gave it up very quickly. Konami was very lazy to rescue its game.

    • @shenzoh121
      @shenzoh121 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not lazy ..the employees need to be paid and with so much less sales..not even reaching 1 million, they failed and gave up

  • @ladislavbitala1928
    @ladislavbitala1928 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I think moving on from annual releases to a live service makes a lot of sense for a football game. But that's about it when it comes to positives... in it's present state the game will be dead in few years.

  • @mahdikamali1021
    @mahdikamali1021 Před 10 měsíci +6

    i still play pes 2018 with my bro🤘

  • @ClubisteM
    @ClubisteM Před rokem +4

    Well, they tried to become the game for e-sports and failed miserably.

  • @pesaksintondji
    @pesaksintondji Před 5 dny

    I do really regret pirating the game every version since 2010 😢 now

  • @ssemandadavid8375
    @ssemandadavid8375 Před 8 dny

    pes 18 gameplay was the best I ever played. Advanced shooting was superb but now Advanced shooting in efootball 24 is now terrible 😳 😕

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio4200 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I just fires up my PES 2018 for the first time in 3 years and it's great. I'm using a file that allows me to have all the official teams, competitions and players and I was looking back at the Nottingham Forest team I took to conquer the world with years in my eyes. They were my boys. 😂

  • @alterbridgegod
    @alterbridgegod Před 17 dny

    The golden era of PES was late 90s up to about 2006. Certainly not after that

  • @dommidavros2211
    @dommidavros2211 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Well, I just play pes 2021 on the pc with modern patches.
    Solves all licencing issues. Fifa will always be shit and I'll never give it the time of day!
    E Football 2022 was indeed the worst piece of crap Konami have ever produced! Utter dogsht so although I'll always be greatfull for 2021, that's it for me! I'm only interested in the Master league, it's a deal breaker for me!

  • @astral9925
    @astral9925 Před 11 měsíci +5

    PES was the best football game between in the 2009 - 2013 years and suddenly in the 2014, FIFA became the leader.

    • @R10Dawkins
      @R10Dawkins Před 8 měsíci

      Fifa took over most consoles because of fifa 09 and reigned supreme as the more commonly player game ever since. That is just 1000% a fact aswell

    • @Kris_1708
      @Kris_1708 Před měsícem

      @@R10Dawkinsits opinion

  • @michaelcarter1882
    @michaelcarter1882 Před měsícem +1

    I'm really disappointed that they took out the become a legend mode. I used to play FIFA, but I switched to proevolution after a time. And I'll never go back to FIFA. But not having BAL is a huge step backwards IMHO.
    But I know everything is geared towards online gaming now and it's all about money.

  • @CaptainAzure12
    @CaptainAzure12 Před 6 dny

    Replacing PES with E-Football is sad 😂

  • @EmmanuelEkonu-g6m
    @EmmanuelEkonu-g6m Před měsícem +1

    I wished the efootball developers should add real tattoo features of every players and also fit body status

  • @fennec298
    @fennec298 Před 4 měsíci +2

    pes 21 was the best game

  • @AliAzar1
    @AliAzar1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I appreciate the quality and substance of your content, which is both informative and well-researched. However, I would suggest varying your tone and pitch to enhance listener engagement. A more dynamic vocal delivery could significantly elevate the overall impact of your presentation and maintain audience interest throughout.

  • @bulldizzl
    @bulldizzl Před rokem +3

    Pes18 was my last game and till today for me the best Part

  • @freedoom321
    @freedoom321 Před 3 měsíci +1

    after pes 2013 everything went to the wrong direction

  • @theunforgiven5367
    @theunforgiven5367 Před dnem

    its a downfall since they decide to make messi their BA

  • @TheRealDreyne
    @TheRealDreyne Před 25 dny

    Great video…I really hope Konami can get back to what made PES great…it would be good to have 3 companies now fighting to get players (2K, EA, and Konami)… I played FIFA 23 and FC24 on gamepass and seeing how they literally just recycle everything from year to year makes me mad confused how ppl can actually spend money on this series

  • @David-028
    @David-028 Před měsícem +1

    PES the goat>>>>> Efootball series

  • @henofit
    @henofit Před 9 dny

    This is the best time Konami can come back with PES 2025... EAFC is trash

  • @Chaudexpower
    @Chaudexpower Před 10 měsíci +2

    Dude claiming the name change was a big deal... the problem was the game... PES was not always PES...
    It used to be Winning Eleven until they decided to make one called Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer... and you can guess what happned after.

  • @iazharru1028
    @iazharru1028 Před rokem +2

    You deserve more views bruh

  • @hadifelani
    @hadifelani Před 2 měsíci

    In my eyes, "Manager Career" is always inferior to "Master League".
    Missed that game.

  • @HuntDuck
    @HuntDuck Před 11 měsíci +5

    Not true, PES started to decline after PES 06(which was actually their best game), after which their next good game was actually pes 16

  • @nindieboy4194
    @nindieboy4194 Před 27 dny

    For me that's because fifa got waaaaaaay better than pes back then. Pes wasn't realistic, it was arcade football, especially 2008 and 2009. I went then from 2010 to fifa and it was night and day. And i think many people think the same and that's why pes died so quickly. Pes4-pes6 DESTROYED fifa 05-07. It wasn't even a competition. Pes was ways ahead of it's time with these 3 games but then lost track somehow, at least for me.

  • @Rplatform777
    @Rplatform777 Před měsícem

    i play pes on my nokia when i was young
    what a good memories

  • @krisorgan
    @krisorgan Před 4 měsíci +1

    FIFA is a great game but, prime Pes was definitely superior.

  • @garv04
    @garv04 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Efootball sucks man

  • @user-fd4kh5dr7o
    @user-fd4kh5dr7o Před 11 měsíci +3

    is this guy sleeping

  • @josephmartelli9010
    @josephmartelli9010 Před 2 měsíci +2

    FIFA can suck ass PES was the greatest football game ever

  • @Your-Ideology-Base
    @Your-Ideology-Base Před rokem +2

    PES was fun

  • @user-jn9wq1fe4c
    @user-jn9wq1fe4c Před 25 dny

    In your opinion, which is the best/favorite PES ever ?

  • @fr3akoffhizl3ashgaming92
    @fr3akoffhizl3ashgaming92 Před 7 hodinami

    They removed master league so no there's no redeeming this franchise without that, all they care about is shitty ultimate team that's not why I bought pes, its a disgrace

  • @OghenekomeNathan
    @OghenekomeNathan Před měsícem

    I miss pes

  • @jj45455
    @jj45455 Před rokem +3

    PES looks like a mobile game now.😂. R.I.P

  • @the_re_up
    @the_re_up Před 15 dny

    Maybe its because you young but there is a much bigger backstory.
    To start with one of the biggest problem. “seabass” left after 2018. Up until then he was like a senior director or something like that, more or less every success (alot of it) and failure of pes was down to him. He received alot of criticism over pes 2014 and since then there was shakey ground.
    Since he left it was very clear that the direction/culture within pes games had changed instantly. Just go look at the 2 trailers…night n day. They begun to want to appeal to more western demographics, they ditched asian pop songs from their menus in favour of indie. Gameplay features were fading away, aswel as player i.d. ….it all became about bridging the move towards myclub n online play.
    Seabass i’ll admit was very stubborn. However i strongly feel given the time he would’ve gotten pes back to where it needed to be. Master league was their golden ticket yet yr after yr they never took advantage.
    - poor valuations of players compared to real life made transfers feel fake. Or teams having poor transfer budgets when in real life its clear it should be more.
    - they took way too long to make their skill moves more fluid and easy to use.
    - the integration to the fox engine was also a huge factor, pes 2014 was a shit show for the first 3 months. Ive never seen a worse release. Several big name stars didn’t have real faces and there was this jitter bug that would cause a lag if you had too many players in the box. 😮
    i could go on and on. But what i hated was the fact that konami saw seabass as being too technical when in fact the very things that made pes stand out are exactly what fifa has implemented into their newer games.
    pes 2014 was their downfall. Even me as a lifelong pes fan it was the beginning when i started to entertain buying both fifa n pes games because i felt pes just were never innovative enough. It took until pes 2016/17 before we saw full 360 degree movement with the left stick…by that point fifa had been doing that for 2-3 years.

    • @the_re_up
      @the_re_up Před 15 dny

      dont get me started on pace not feeling like pace. You could have mertasaker catch up with walcott
      - goalkeepers were a problem for many years, they’ve never got this right on next gen.

  • @omargutierres1708
    @omargutierres1708 Před 23 dny

    Efootball on the console is way to slow it sucks on mobile it’s fun

  • @MasonMartinez-pe9up
    @MasonMartinez-pe9up Před 2 měsíci

    EFootball now is not that bad

  • @WolfyWobz
    @WolfyWobz Před 7 měsíci

    I'm glad it's dead. PES 21 was a trainwreck of a game.

  • @anisalial-maghrabi3215
    @anisalial-maghrabi3215 Před měsícem

    PES 2013 to pes 2021 in al player id, eFootball is not al player 😅

  • @Nikolas724
    @Nikolas724 Před 3 měsíci

    PES 2016-2019 was the best

  • @WhoAreYou905
    @WhoAreYou905 Před 23 dny

    Why is the passing and dribbling so shit???

  • @aminovitchmad4520
    @aminovitchmad4520 Před rokem +1

    You are the only one who saw the real reason of this downfall

  • @JmtAnij
    @JmtAnij Před 9 měsíci

    2:55 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

  • @azimmat8434
    @azimmat8434 Před rokem +2

    Efailball the end of konamee...
    Worst control & gameplay than pes

  • @Amarula-cx3cw
    @Amarula-cx3cw Před 24 dny

    Ya saying crap

  • @Gjbniopgrtujjbvcdruon
    @Gjbniopgrtujjbvcdruon Před 7 měsíci

    Pes 2002 and 2006 was good I don’t like 13 16 18 21

  • @Fallsy83
    @Fallsy83 Před 25 dny

    Pro Evo 6 was the last great game plus it's hard to watch your jerky game videos