+7 HP!!! Norton Velocity Stacks & ECU Flash Power Up! - Ninja 400 / Z400 | Norton Motorsports
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- Gain 7 HP just from bolt on mods! See how to get easy power out of the Kawasaki Ninja 400 / Z400
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Put this on my bike with full Akra system and Graves block off. This is amazing. Everything it's said to be. Just make sure you install a block off or you will be spitting flames 🔥
Thanks for the awesome review! Glad you enjoyed it, and look forward to helping you in the future!
Sounds pretty rad. I want to be spitting flames, is that bad for the engine? We’ll I’m sure it is, but is it really bad?
@@MrHardbodies it's not really that bad, if at all. Pressure this, pressure that... it's not a 2 stroke; there's a poppet valve closing-off the exhaust back-flow to the engine.
Norton flash?? Totally amazing, stacks, exhaust, get it all. They even shipped it back 2 day shipping cause I was in a hurry an told them I needed it sooner then I realized it was gonna take. Awesome company an flash, spend the cash, u won't be disappointed.
I did this to my ninja 400 track bike - It's amazing. Couldn't be happier.
Did you just change the stack only or with the ecu together? Does it work if only get the stack changed?
@@Jopakilo
I sent in my ECU and had it re-flashed, installed the velocity stacks and did the air box cut out modifications + M4 full exhaust system. Look on the Norton website - it should all be there as far as products and installation. Super smooth power delivery from the bottom on up. I think now they might even have a ram air system but that may only be for the track bikes set up. I've done many track sessions against the "Feel Like a Pro" ninja 400 that are stock engines and in the straights I can tell I definitely have more power.
@@Jopakilo
I would say no to just the stack change. W/out ecu flash it might actually run worse.
Awesome! Hope to help you further!
Okay...you have convinced me.
I was on the fence about the N400, even though I believe that the stock HP will be just fine for me. Now I see that a simple upgrade will remove any doubt. This installation is TOO easy. I might wait until the warranty expires after the first year, UNLESS.....there is an aftermarket airbox that I can buy without cutting up the stock one....I would love to do these mods as soon as I get the bike!
You still get good gains from just the Vstacks, ECU flash, and Full EXhaust without cutting the airbox. However, used airboxes are very cheap on eBay if you're concerned about cutting the one that came with your bike.
@@NortonMotorsports Thank you for that information! Now I REALLY want to get it. You will be the first channel I will turn to if I need to know anything concerning the N400. GREAT content!
Had my 400 dynod today and it’s putting down 60.10HP at 10k rpm. I only removed the snorkels from the air box. Didn’t modify mine yet. I made my own velocity stacks at my job in carbon fiber, printed them and tumbled for a few hours to smooth em out. Full Toce exhaust with a local tuner flashing the ECU. I had 87 in the tank also. The guy almost dropped his jaw. He said I left a bit of power on the table plus it was hot as fuk in there. 100 ambient. Im making a ram air to fit inside the stock airbox so that and the better fuel, should be pulling close to 65 easy when I’m done. Not bad for such a light bike.
@@JeremyDN Wow....that is astonishing. Okay, then...I'm buying it. Those numbers are absolutely mind-boggling...and all from a 400 twin. Have you thought about starting a small business prodicing those velocity stacks? You have your first customer right here.
@@jex8046 I haven’t put anything online about what I’ve made so far. I have quite a few stack versions and my air box. I’ll try and put a short vid of what I’ve made sometime on my channel. I don’t upload much though.
I had the stacks slapped on and tuned from a shop. Big improvement just off of that. I'm looking at doing the throttle body next. I got the exact gains they got just off of the velocity stacks.
Awesome stuff! The velocity stacks make a major difference.
@@NortonMotorsports how can the gain be so massive? its not like it got 16 inches trumpets like they run on webbered small block. im not saying that its not true, seem to be, its just hard to see where it all come from
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 It’s easy when the bike is flashed. Plus the stacks that are stock are decent but not great. The shorter stacks are designed for max HP along with a high air flow filter. Mine gets 60 hp as of now with my own stacks I made plus a full Toce exhaust. Goal is to get 70 from this small bike.
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 it's science
Hi, how exactly did you make 60hp? @@JeremyDN
I have this setup on my 2019 R3 from you guys and I love it!
What’s your new top speed? R6 Throttle Tube?
@@chrisp.5272 no throttle tube and haven't tested top speed. Bike is so much better with these parts on it. Way more fun.
Bro even I own r3 I have done few modz lik Power tronics free flow exhaust and k&n filter.
Does it helps me if I add this mod on to my R3?
@@sainathreddy3421 if you do everything from the videos yes it's a big improvement and everything works great together.
Do you think this will fit the same year ninja 250? I’m from Malaysia
I wonder if using 4 electrode spark plugs would make any power gains.
Awesome video i plan on installing velocity stacks soon, i have a full akrapovic exhaust and a k&n air filter, but a question i have is, is the block off emission necessary/needed?
yeah, mine still pops pretty hard w the block off and emissions delete, def recommend if u plan on keeping the bike a couple years
I want to upgrade my z400 ecu can't you help me
You can squeeze another 4 hp if you upgrade to full exhaust system w/ aftermarket air & fuel filters.
The 7 hp gain shown here is with full exhaust and air filter. This video shows with full exhaust already installed, only a high flow air filter isn't used, but we have dyno data on our website for that. The Ninja 400 is fuel injected, the fuel filter is on the fuel pump, it doesn't make sense to change to an aftermarket fuel filter unless the OEM one goes bad, and it won't change how much horsepower it makes.
Hello I just bought the Norton air box for my MT-03/R3. What kind of gains can I expect with it, combined with a MWR filter and a flash? Thank you
We recommend getting the Velocity stacks and ECU flash in order to get the most out of your setup. You can find dyno data sheets on our website. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/norton-racing-velocity-stack-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-yamaha-r3-mt-03/
Looks awesome! We live in Australia and would struggle to get your ECU flash. Could we expect decent gains using a power comander with auto tune? Or is the secret in your flash?
In order to get the same gains, you would need our flash. We've spent many, many hours with many exhausts fine tuning and developing both our ECU tune and Velocity Stacks.
You can read more about ECU Tune Vs. Piggy Back controllers here: www.norton-motorsports.com/power-commander-pcv-vs-bazzaz-z-fi-vs-ecu-flash-vs-aracer-race-ecu/
Thank! I'll read up. How could we get flashed ECU to Aus?
Thinking the only option is to purchase a stock ECU online shipped to Norton, then have you guys send it out?
Do you think the oem stacks from a verys 650 will work similarly to this, or they should be straight?
We do not have any data for that setup, we developed our stacks over hundreds of hours to perform this well.
So do you delete/unplug the O2 sensor? Or is there any difference flashing the ecu and leaving the O2 sensor plugged in?
Yes, you just remove the O2 sensor and plug the exhaust. There is no difference, as we disable it in our tune.
That is super
Glad you liked it.
I have the 2021 ninja 400 I have BMC Air filter , SC project full exhaust , block offs and Dynoed to the ECU. They left the baffle on as they said small bikes have better back pressure with baffle on. So on the Dyno sheet stock was 42HP after tune it was 46HP. Now if i do velocity stacks and retune it. With baffle off would I get more out of it ? I want to get 50HP out of it. Don't need ram air honestly. Also my 02 sensor is connected to the exhaust. My other bikes have it off. Blocked off. Will removing the 02 make it better ?
The velocity stacks will add more horsepower, with your exhaust leaving the baffle in is likely best. Leaving the O2 sensor in is entirely up to you.
@@NortonMotorsports Is there any benefit to leaving the o2 sensor on or off ? My akrapovic exhaust on my R6 has it blocked off on the exhaust.
I’m located in Australia and own a Kawasaki Ninja 400 2022 ABS model. Do you have kits to send out here?
We offer our flash available to use with FTECU bench kits. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/flashtune-bench-tuning-kit-kawasaki-ninja-400-z400-2018-22/
This work with akrapovic full exaust system? im from Europe.
Yes. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/full-exhaust-ninja400r-velocity-stacks-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-kawasaki-ninja-400/
Can I install the velocity stacks only? Will this damage the bike or cause issues to run it without the tune?
Running Velocity Stacks only will not accomplish much, in order to make gains you must get a tune. It won't hurt the bike, but it won't really help either.
Is this the result of the Velocity Stacks and ECU flash with stock exhaust? Or does it have a full system as well? What gains could I expect with just the Velocity Stacks, and ECU flash? Probably a better air filter too
This is with Velocity Stacks, our ECU Flash, and Full Exhaust. With stock exhaust, you can expect between 1 and 3 HP less than with Full Exhaust. You can check out more on our website: www.norton-motorsports.com/product/full-exhaust-ninja400r-velocity-stacks-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-kawasaki-ninja-400/
I did all you said to do but I can’t get the engine light to go off what do you think the problem is 😢
For PAIR and SMOG items, you will need to research how to fix the CEL. There are many solutions, articles, and forums that go over this in detail.
How much gain with just velocity stack and your tune, if i have just Arrow slip on?
Check their website.
You can see full information here: www.norton-motorsports.com/product/norton-racing-velocity-stack-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-yamaha-r3-mt-03/
How long does it take to get the ecu back once they receive it? They had mine about a week now, an havent heard anything or got a tracking number lol. I got a full exhaust, stacks block off plate , air filter, every came an is installed, just wait on the ecu to get back here, time goes sooooo slow when ur waiting on something, i feel like a child on the night b4 xmas.
I'm super excited btw!! I been wanting this done since I 1st seen this, I only had the bike 2months now, bought it brand new. I'm praying i get it back soon, I'm addicted to the whole bike scene now, I've waited my whole life 4 a bike. Finally got it, should of thought this tho, I dont have Garage, now my poor ninja is in pieces in the driveway waiting on my ecu 😂😂
Follow up: have you gotten everything now? How is it? Looking to do the same with mine.
Yesss, it came like 6days later. Was totally worth it, got the mgp full system exhaust , velocity stacks, block off plate, DNA filter, airbox mod that recommended by Norton with the stacks, an there ECU flash. My bike is a beast. I can hit 75 easy in 3rd gear, 135mph I had it going. It's a no brainier, definitely recommend this! Best flash on the market, gotta run premium gas after tho, 91 octane or higher, I use 94 octane an it runs an sounds like a 650 imo.
How would this work with a slip on exhaust?
You'll still see improvement over stock, but won't get the horsepower we show here without one of the recommended full exhausts.
I'm debating whether I want to do this or not. I was leaning towards getting a new bike as I wanted something more comfortable anyways
We also offer options for better ergonomics, such as clip-ons, rearsets, and even our supersport seat.
@@NortonMotorsports 👍 I'll check them out
What kind of gains does the ninja 400 see with just the flash and stacks, and a aftermarket air filter/modified air box... And a cheap slip on?
Can't really justify spending $1500+ for the full kit to only see maybe 7hp.. it's a $5k bike.
That's like 30% of the bikes value.. or $215 per HP to do things proper.. seems nutty to me.
With stock exhaust and/or slip-on, it's still around 4-5 hp gain for velocity stacks and ECU flash. As to horsepower to cost ratio, this is very cheap for the amount of horsepower gain, especially being bolt on. Keep in mind, on average each horsepower gained in the automotive / motorsport industry is around $400-900, so for 7 hp, this is well under the average. Also, especially for these ultralight-weight bikes, it's very common to spend upwards of a third to half the MSRP on modifications depending on use. For racing, people often spend 100% or more modifying these bikes to be as competitive as possible.
7 hp on a bike like this is a 15% gain that's a fuck load that's like a 200 hp car going to 230 for just 1500 dollars which is basically unheard naturally aspirated this is a good ass deal
Hello, im thinking of buying a z400, and if i do i will definitely do this mod with a full exhaust system. Do you recommend this for daily? I live in city and go highway sometimes. Also should i do this mod after i break in the engine or can I do it with a fresh motor? Thank you and great video!
Also, another question, the z400 in france is limited to 44hp for A2 license riders, will the ecu flash remove the restrictions? And will this mod be compatible with the 44hp A2 version? Thank you very much!
This is fine to ride on the street. We only offer our flash to use with the FTECU bench kit to international customers. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/flashtune-bench-tuning-kit-kawasaki-ninja-400-z400-2018-22/
That wing alone add 100hp
lol
Why didn't you put in a high flow filter
This is with high flow air filter.
Holy shit.
🤘
So what’s the top speed with all this
Top speed will vary depending on your setup, the aim of this is for racing purposes where lap times and building a competitive bike is more important than focusing on top speed.
Is this legal in California? Thanks
We do ship and service California, as we are based out of San Diego. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/ninja400r-velocity-stacks-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-kawasaki-ninja-400/
Do I delete the oxygen sensor?
Our flash disables it, you can remove it.
Would the tune and velocity stacks work a z400
This is for all Ninja and Z400. www.norton-motorsports.com/product/ninja400r-velocity-stacks-and-norton-race-spec-ecu-flash-package-deal-kawasaki-ninja-400/
no offence but am i missing something because 300 us for two small rubber parts seems quite steep
These were extensively developed over hundreds of dyno hours in order to deliver optimal power, and are high quality in construction and material in order to last, and be reliable.
It's probably closer to $40 for two small rubber parts and $260 for knowing what shape to make them in.
I bet the velocity stacks don’t do that much. You are getting plenty of air through the air box after you cut it.🤷♂️
ECU nya Untuk ninja 250 2018 apakah bisa?
No, we don't flash for the Ninja 250.
It would be cheaper and equivalent, just cutting the stock stacks.
This is not true, as just cutting the OEM stacks would not retain the Venturi. Our stacks have been extensively developed over hundreds of hours on the Dyno.
@@NortonMotorsports I really don’t see it making that significant of a difference between the two. it’s only going to receive so much air the air box is already cut open after the mod.🤷🏻♂️. My opinion does make obvious sense.. I highly doubt you would lose even 1 HP cutting the stock stacks. I understand why you would say that you wouldn’t want to lose any money on sales.
Your opinion is just that and you're entitled to it. However opinions don't make power, well designed velocity stacks do.
@@NortonMotorsports still doesn’t change the fact that I’m most likely correct. Lol
Only one way to find out, buy our stacks and make your own, do the dyno work.