Multipurpose Canvas Tarp! | NVA shelter half | NVA Zeltbahn setup and variants
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2018
- The NVA shelter half is a classic in germany. In former east germany you will probably find several of these tarps in pretty much every house. Here I want to show you some things you can do with it.
What I forgot to mention: If you use a classic US-ALICE-pack in medium-size, this tarp fits perfectly into the gap between your back and the rucksack without bothering you, due to the space caused by the ALICE-frame. Therefore you can carry it on the outside of your backpack and can save space in your backpack for other stuff.
just bought a pair. great to know all the tricks.
Great video! Thanks a lot for mentioning that it is an improved version of the Plash, btw. I bought a few of those NVA shelter-halfs back in the 1990s and they still serve me to the present day. Besides it is an excellent and simple camouflage pattern for central Europe woodland regions, for sure. Some NVA-gear was very well thought out and simple to use for the soldier in the field. It was really good stuff. Another piece of NVA-gear I use during winter is the cold-weather suit, ... the one with the braces :-) ... I love it.
Another use for such a shelter-half is to use it as a replacement for a stretcher, to carry wounded comrades.
The only thing I dislike about it are the aluminium buttons, as they tend to break over the years ... ehm ... decades.
What You did not show are the original tent pegs and the tent poles. The pegs were made from aluminium casting so they are lightweight and pretty sturdy. The poles were made from wood with metal connectors, therefore also lightweight. I wish they had also made the poles from aluminium-tubes, which they did not. Well, they made the coins of their currency from aluminium, therefore I guess not enough aluminium was left to make tent-poles for the NVA. :-)
Thanks for watching! To be honest I never really had problems with the buttons, and I'm not careful when using these tarps and use them for everything rough, as we do around here. But yeah, the original tent poles and pegs suck... hard. They always break and are not that great in general. Also most people Ive asked would say that the NVA gear was anything but "well thought out and simple to use" haha. But it was the cheapest thing available and "good enough" for the average men in the DDR, the higher-ups had better gear, like a mummy-sleeping bag and other luxuries. I also had one of those cold-weather suits, they can be pretty nice until they get wet because of snow :D
Youre probably right about the aluminium, guess they used it all for coins, buttons and messkits haha
Hello von Moose Jaw in Saskatchewan Canada
Hello du hast alles richtig gemacht. Ich hatte eine zeltplane 1988 bis 1990 ich war in der luftwaffe.
Ich war genre in der NVA wie viele andere nur ein soldat. Ich denke es war eine gute zeit habe viel gelernt. Danke für das video wirklich gut. Now in englisch. Thank you for the video you did everything right. I was in the east German airforce 1988 to 1990. I loved it like may others. Learned alot. Thank u NVA you are no more like many other things. Good job with the video.
Hey! Sorry for the late answer, been busy.
Wow, then you served your time right at the end of the NVA , very interesting!
Thank you for watching and have a great day!
Nice Video. I really like the Zeltbahn a very multi functional piece of gear.
Thanks
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video keep going that poncho will give a lot of comfort and satisfaction on shelter set up and learning curves. Sometimes I set mine up late in the rain forget to put sleeves in right direction.
Ha, yeah, happened to me too, now I always just think of that one button in that one corner, when you can see it you now that side is supposed to not get wet.
Have a nice day and nice holidays!
I love so much my Zeltbahn that I feel the urge to say this under every single video about it. Is one of my fav hiking gear ever. Being thought for colder regions than my country (southern Italy, pretty warm down here) it's perfect if you wanna enjoy some outdoor time with that touch of vintage mil surp style
Definitely! If you like those heavy, durable canvas milsurp items I recommend you check out the polish canvas tipi (or lavvu as some people call it)
Great video ! I build with that little Zeltbahn a A frame shelter. Its small but enough for one person. Also a good idea would be the triangle shelter.
Great video, you showed and explained the tarp so well. I have the Hungarian Zeltbahn. I am still learning about all it's uses. Your video has given me some ideas. Thank you for the video. Dave
Glad you enjoyed it! I hope you can use this information on the hungarian Zeltbahn, because as far as I know it has another shape right? Was it a half circle or what shape was it?
Have a nice day!
It is a half-circle shape but your video gives me the idea to think-outside-the-box and see what I can improvise.
Have you watched Taromovies on CZcams? Taro also has a similar Zeltbahn to yours and does some great things with it.
I don't know that channel, but I will definitely look into it! Thanks and greetings!
Superb my friend! A really nice video and so well made!
I’m having trouble getting one of these tarps but will keep trying.
Thanks for posting.
Laurie
Thanks for watching! Yeah I know, these tarps are really getting more rare and expensive. Varusteleka had a new stock of them a few weeks ago I think. I hope you will find one!
Have a great day!
Got mine 2 month ago from Varusreleka : brand new!
I have two similar tarps, but they are Hungarian military. They are great. Thanks for the vid!
Hungarian? German democratic republic?
Warsaw pact 2.0?
Very nice video and good tarp bâche I like
Indeed! Thank you for watching!
Good job mate, i had several plash palatkas but i lost them(freak drunk accident ;) ) thanks to your nice and informative video i am buying one of those superb nva cloaks, once again thank you for a very informative videos! :)
Great video! thank you for the Ideas, I just bought the Russian plash Palatka, I should have waited for this version,
Hey, Ive also got a plash palatka. Its pretty much the same thing but with leather-reinforced holes and no camo. You can't go wrong with it really. Have fun messing around with that thing!
Just discovered your channel, great cinematography and content! Can't wait for more videos :)
Hey, thank you! Glad you enjoy my videos! Im always trying to do videos when I can.
Have a nice day!
you German do great reviews
Greetings from UK
Gutes Video, 😊
Atmungsaktiv und leicht aber gut imprägnieren geht am besten mit „Essigsaurer-Tonerde“. Kriegt man bei „Jurtenland“. Gebrauchsanleitung dazu auch. 👍🇨🇭
Hey! Danke fürs anschauen. Davon hab ich auch schonmal irgendwo gehört... aber bisher geht die Wachs-Imprägnierung ganz gut :D
Einen wunderschönen Tag dir noch!
Very nice bache+
Yes they did not reinvented the wheel, but I think the NVA gear was much, much more German-like than the gear of the Bundeswehr..If you take a close look at the NVA gear and their uniforms you will notice the "original" German style of it...even the NVA Belt is almost exactly like the German ones of the 19th century, WWI and WW2.
I think it has to be appreciated that the NVA managed to preserve their German heritage in their uniforms and equipment.
I agree with that point. Though I don't think the preservation of the german heritage was the point they were trying to make with their equipment. With the whole process of the denazification full in progress after WWII, its pretty safe to assume that national pride was very low on the list of things they wanted to preserve.
Even though most of the gear the NVA used was supplied by the UDSSR, the uniforms were AT LEAST heavily inspired by the Wehrmachtsuniform. Hard to say if they just used left-over uniforms from the Wehrmacht and changed them up a little, but its not unreasonable to think they did.
After all, the DDR was pretty broke all the time but wanted to do everything possible to look superior to the us-troops of the west. Even if that meant their soldiers wore nazi uniforms...
Thanks for watching by the way and have a great day :)
Thank you for the video. it is intersting to see foreign equipment. You should try to buy a British 58 poncho, much better than this design. It can be used as a poncho, (with hood,) groundsheet, basha and was also designed to clip to the 58 sleeping bag. (If you can find a good one the 58 sleeping bag is also good but you must get the 'long' size unless you are very short.)
Thanks for watching!
I think I saw the 58 issue poncho before, but I think it was out of plastic fiber, wasnt it? That brings alot of downsides in terms of durability. I for myself came to really like the polish shelter half too, the great thing about canvas is the fireproofness and durability, if its worth it for someone in terms of more weight and less waterproofness, that's something everyone needs to choose for themselves. But ive also seen some people return to using these canvas army tarps because they want to reduce their use of potential microplastics. Which is also an interesting concept.
Especially old milsurp plastic is often known to be extra-cancerous (see the old bw poncho)
Have a nice day!
''nice video''
Thank you! Have a nice day!
Great work with that video! Just out of curiosity, are you in Germany by any chance? I just havent seen many german outdoor channels.
By the way, I own the two of the Polish version of those ponchos. I button them up together and use 3 branches to make a tripod that I can tie the ponchos to so i get a tent.
Yes, I'm german, the reason may be because there are not that many english speaking german outdoor channels. Well, there are, probably, but they are not that well known haha.
The polish army tent is awesome! I also got a big one. The halfes are perfect to make a large rainponcho and a super not too uncomfortable shelter. I just got to test them after I made this video, otherwise I would have told the people that in my opinion the polish army shelter half is far superior to the NVA Zeltbahn or the plash palatka.
Thank you very much for watching and have a beautiful day!
Based Gnome did you make a video allready about that Polnisch halfes?
Has really no one ever considered the FACT that the NVA Zeltbahn is not derived from some obscure Russian thing, but that it is an improved version of the Modell 1915 Zeltbahn of the German Imperial Army...?!!!
Well, don't really know if its a "fact", but I know a bit about the gear of the NVA, which was heavily influenced by russian military gear for obvious reasons.
The plash palatka just has the advantage of being documented to have been used since at least 1894 and is pretty much the same design as the NVA Zeltbahn.
Other than that, there are various desings of Zeltbahnen/shelter halves and they all share similarities. Its not really like they reinvented the wheel with that one imo.
Das gibts nicht! GENAU das Video wonach ich ewig gesucht habe :D Zu wenig likes! Da sieht man mal wieder youtube funktioniert einfach nicht xD Danke dir!
Freut mich dass es dir gefällt :D
I m kiff the tarp bache
I love your video and I love the tarp canvas poncho a lot and I am collector. Sorry I m French little speak English. Very nice bâches kiss
how bad is the water-proofness? I've seen couple of tests of the Polish and Russian tarps and they were dry to touch from the inside in the rain. The outside was soaked for a whole day.
Well after all it IS just heavy canvas. So it will absorb water a bit and will be heavy. Also if its not sunny it will take a while to dry. It´s definitly not to be used as a blanket, but it will, in my experience, stay waterproof even if totally soaked, unless you touch the inside.
@@BasedGnome I think yours might be an older that over time, lost the silicon water-proofing that they originally used on these. I have a few that I got from Varastukuela that were like new and water beads off of the surface of those. In fact, I took one and stood in the shower for 20 minutes and not a drop of water soaked into the outside of the canvas. Oh, and thanks for the video. I enjoyed it. Cheers, Jason
@@RockyMountainBushcraft tbh I don't know if they were impregnated at all, but I highly doubt it because the nva was not in the position to spend money on that stuff. The tarpdesign itself is very old and reaches back to the roman era afaik. If they were impregnated I guess its most likely waxed. But I'm not sure.
Anyway thanks for watching!
@@BasedGnome Yeah, Varustuekala (spelled right?) claimed they were treated at the factory. Based on my experience using many different kinds of canvas, my NVA Tarps act like they were treated with silicon.
@@RockyMountainBushcraft I did some research, apparently the nva tarps were treated with a bath of acetic alumina and then left to dry, after that they usually got a coating of wax, but I honestly don't think the wax part applies to every tarp, as my tarps didn't seem like they've been waxed at all. But the part about the canvas growing when wet to get more waterproof still applies, its a very neat design but still heavy 😬
Have a nice day!
So its basically a copy of the russian plash palatka?
Hey! Dont know if copy is the right word for it. It basically is a plash palatka, with two arm holes and metall buttons. But its still a russian design (as the east germany NVA was under the lead of russians much of the equipment was similar to russian gear).
Have a nice day!
Hallo. Bitte um genau Maße in Cm. Danke.
Immer etwas unterschiedlich, aber für gewöhnlich 175cm x 175cm.
I HAVE 2, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE A TEE PEE WITH THEM, GREAT VIDEO,THANKS
Hey! The Nva tarps are not officially made to make a tipi, two of them make a nice classic tent without ground, however there are many methods of setting them up, I recommend you just go out in the woods and get crazy with them!
You just need a few sticks and string.
Have fun!
THANK YOU ,IWILL
@@anders1685 tepee is with the "Lavvu"
So its "blahblahblahblustein" or "steinburgblahblaaaaahblah" camo?
Ha, I said it's "Ein Strich kein Strich" (one stripe no stripe) or "Strichtarn" (stripecamo) camo. But Strichtarn is internationaly used.
Have a nice day!
I wasn't making fun i was joking... i was looking to buy one on ebay but didn't know the name and was completely unable to understand the name of the cammo when he said it but thanks to his cool answer and unlike you his ability to take a joke i did find one and bought it
+Kurt Russell
+Benjamin P
Guys, please don't worry about stuff like that. I was sure he made a joke. Lifes too short to argue about this stuff.
Have a nice day
Du weisst aber schon dass man das ding zuknöpfen kann und es nebenbei armlöcher hat?
Natürlich weiß ich das. Allerdings finde ich die Armlöcher durch ihre Position sehr störend und die Bahn viel bequemer als Umhang zu tragen. Wenn es regnet Knöpfe ich die Bahn auch zu, aber die Armlöcher benutze ich trotzdem nur wenn es unbedingt sein muss.
Grüße!
Junge , red deutsch !!!!!
Ansonsten ... gutes Video !!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
falschherum, mit dem aufbau läuft dir bei regen das wasser durch die armlöcher. die müssen am fußende sein