Seiko Collectors Dream Watch ($3,500 62MAS Diver 38mm SJE093 review)
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- This is the Seiko 62MAS SJE093 a recreation of Seiko's legendary diver 1965. It now comes in a 38mm size with a new 6L37 movement. Is it the greatest Seiko watch created for collectors?
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Seiko needs to drop the limited edition and make this a permanent model in their catalogue. It is a beloved piece, and it competes with Swiss divers. How many 'limited edition' 62MAS watches are they going to come out with? Seems like every other year one gets released.
But it works, Omega Speedmasters, Seamasters, Blancpain 50 Fathoms, Breitling Navitimers, AP Royal Oaks…it’s all the same. Tons of remakes, reinterpretations, reissues…so as a profit generating company which main purpose is to, as taboo as that may sound make money then I don’t think they are in a wrong path tbh.
It's because it keeps getting sold out. A business is going to maximize profits when all is said and done😊
@@ryangochuicoYeah and I expect them to continue to do so. I don’t understand why some people are allergic to corporations making money, the words “money grab” is sometimes used and I really don’t know what that means😂. Everything is a money grab no? It’s a product created to make money. It’s kind of how corporations continue to bring us new products..
@@garretthu2466 🤝
Seiko are not like used to be where back in the days their were affordable and value and now they slowly stepping into swiss strategy where releasing a lot limited ed
If you’re debating on the BB54 or the SJE093, then the Seiko isn’t for you. Get the BB54 and be happy. This one isn’t for the person that’s debating, this is for the person that has to have it.
Exactly!
Very well said
End of the debate.
Well said
I'm debating on the BB54 and the SJE093, but leaning much more to the Seiko... 😵
The best solution is to buy a few of the best watches available, instead of owning 30 watches like I do. I don't know why I ended up with so many when I wear the same one almost 100% of the time.
Seiko is actually the best watch brand in the world because they have all prices and tons of styles.
Been saying the same thing regarding the 6L and 8L on the same level for a month now on Seiko’s sevice site. Thank you for putting it in the video finally…
Yesss! Good eye, a REAL if you know you know 😉
FANTASTIC! Thanks for including me!
Always a pleasure Ricky!! Thanks for coming on
I’m here for the Ricky Wong content! More Ricky Wong!!!
Cant go wong with Ricky Wong !!
I would sell my SPB143 in a heartbeat for this one. Congrats on the new pickup man 👏
Oh no thought you would never sell your 143 😬
@@daveLin104 realistically speaking, I wouldn’t. This is a little on the expensive side in my humble opinion.
@SoCalWatchReviews thanks for the reply 🙏 I'm the same as you love this watch it looks amazing and love the size, but it's very overpriced in particular it doesn't even come with a bracelet. I'm hoping something midsize like this in the 143 price range
@@daveLin104 Agree 💯
I admire Seiko as a brand. I will say, however, that issuing so many variations with so many model numbers is what waters down the brand. Very challenging for consumers to value the brand at any specific range. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing 🤔. Beautiful watch nevertheless.
Just like the Omega Speedmasters…but they sell every single one.
I think, we are a bit hard on seiko...
people always compare 62mas vs Tudor BB..
if you google Tudor Black bay super dami niya models din... mas madami pa kaysa sa 62Mas re-issue...
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Love this watch. Easily take this over the BB54.
Waiting for Seiko to give this 6L37 treatment to the 6159 (MarineMaster is based off of), Slim Willard, and Willard with the date at 3 and the lil lume plot.
Great review of this watch. Really tempted on this one, but I already have the sla043. Kind of think a smaller black dial version. We will see.
I have no problem with the 6L movement. It is a high quality one that came from Seiko Credor. I have a sje073. Really special Seiko presage. Should be tagged as a GS . It runs at plus 2 a day.
My sla 043, 039 both have 19mm width. Plenty of choices if you look. The 043 is on a stapco ladder bracelet. Perfect for me. Matches the brushed ever brilliant steel well. Vintage look.
The sla039 is on a dassari rubber strap. Bright orange! Matches the attitude of the watch. They both look good on my dark blue sail cloth band. More refined look.
Thanks again for the review.
If I have the chance, I will also choose it over any Black Bay just because it looks better for me.
As a 19 year old, it's very helpful to have your channel,givese me good info for my Passion. Thank you 👍🏻.
This video made me go put a tropic strap back on my spb143. Wearing it now. Great video thank you!
Great review as always and loved the honest take comparing this Seiko recreation to Tudor’s BB54 🙌🏼
I recently purchased the Tudor BB54, Pelagos39 and now the 093 they all very nice, but prices are climbing so the more you wait it will be gone and talking about the 093. After over a dozen GS and so many Seiko watches I'm done with this reissue game, I sold all my divers during covid but the SJE093 is pretty much perfect.
That Tudor Black Bay .925 is the sexiest piece ever!!!! NATO strap and exhibition case back! Hard to beat.....and what is currently on my wrist as it is my favorite!!!
I'm not a fan of Seiko, and I don't have a Seiko watch.I love the design and size of this watch.The history and story of this watch are also attractive. It's a watch that transcends the brand image and makes Seiko become a fan.Thank you for the good reviews!
"This is the last Seiko I buy." "This is going to be one and done for me." Yeah, we've all heard THAT before. From others and ourselves.
It’s true… for now right 😂😅
Nice review. The SJE093 is great! Size perfect for smaller wrists
My Seiko's are SPB153 (Willard), and SPB239 (love the look); want an accurate Seiko to end my Seiko's - 8L35 movement, maybe the SLA055?
I can’t have both the BB54 and SJE so I had to pick one and I chose the Seiko. Everything you listed i.e. bracelet etc were my thoughts but as a Seiko fan, there are only 1,965 pieces and unlimited BB54. Plus the prices seem to be appreciating so that’s also nice.
maybe ... next year will be next interpretation and it will go on and on - so do not count on uniqueness unless you want for 62 or 63 MAS . I can tell you 6X MAS will be much better and nobody will look back on 62/63 MAS :)
I agree there will probably be more variations as they have been doing but unless they reissue this exact watch (or different size) how can you make the 62mas more 62mas haha. This so far has been so most faithful to the original.
Thank you Minute Mon and
Carat & Co for helping me land a SJE093! Truly one of my favorite watches 😊
Enjoy it Andrew!! Glad you were able to pick one up
Algorithm brought me here. Love the co-op with a collector in the review! 👍🏼
Charging $3500 for this is absolutely criminal
Really liking this one, just wish Seiko would have included two long- and two short-strap pieces. Some of these other 62MAS reissues included two straps, for this price to have included two short pieces would have made it perfect for the 6.5" wrist crowd.
Doesn't make sense considering the Japanese have small frames.
Wow I can't believe I nerded out on the 62mas for almost 20 minutes ❤
❤the Seico Captain Welard Seico dive watch I got mine in the late 80’s yet is never been serviced and still working great Now I’m retiring it because I bought the Jack Mason HydroTimer dive watch 300m/1000ft hope The Jack Mason dive watch will work as good quality of the Captain Willard’s Seico dive watch thanks have a great day everyone
Excellent video. Waiting delivery of the limited edition 8la movement Willard (033?) from the used market so I get your enthusiasm!
Best video review for this watch! Good job. I think this watch is for the diehard seiko fans.
This is such a great 2000 USD watch!
Are you out of your mind?! Instant YES
haha just waiting for them to release the spb version for the more 'affordable' iteration.
Thank you for this great video! Glad I waited since 2017. Am looking forward to the SJE093 this Thursday and will wait out for a blue colorway BB54 and the price to tank...look at BB58 these days.
a NO Date version of this watch would be a hell of a watch 😮
Like a Oris diver65 Glow😊
More of this style of content!
Will do!
This is an enthusiast watch, either you want it or you don't.
Perfectly stated.
I know it’s quite expensive, relatively speaking ; but I’ve put it on my wrist at the dealer …it’s completely….perfect. I want it ;-)
It’s the imperfections … no bracelet, 19mm lugs, price, etc, … that attract me to the watch.
Do you think they will ever make a No Date version?
I don’t foresee a no date version anytime soon since each recreation / re-interpretation has a date window, but we can dream!
great content. your close up shots are amazing. i ordered mine, cant wait to get my hands on it
Beautiful watch. Makes me miss my SLA017.
DIS
There’s a drastic difference between this and a BB54, mostly in fit and finish. You don’t even get polished hand edges on the Tudor.
The bb54's bracelet and design is leagues above the shitbox. Plus its a chronometer. What's the accuracy in this +10/-25? Plus a 40 hr power reserve? It's not 2007 anymore
Unless you live in Japan, it's still better to go with the Tudor for warranty and service. No one is going to notice the hand's edges from the naked eye. Regardless, they're relatively the same value watch.
Great, you just stick with your poor man’s wannabe Rolex then .
@@glennhaley7404 if Tudor is a poor man's watch what is seiko?
@@jchong416 Not trying to be anything else
Not gonna lie this watch has some history but you could go big with a Tudor or a cheap Omega with that kind of price tag.
Fantastic watch. Thank you for the review
I think, we are a bit hard on seiko...
people always compare 62mas vs Tudor BB..
if you google Tudor Black bay super dami niya models din... mas madami pa kaysa sa 62Mas re-issue...
Heritage Black Bay 79220N - in three colors..
Black Bay 79230R, 79230N, 79230B - from ETA to in-house
Black Bay 79250BM - first bronze
Black Bay 79230DK - DLC coated
Black Bay 36 79500 - 36mm
Black Bay Chronograph 79350 - first chrono
Black Bay steel 79730 - first all steel
Black Bay Date S&G 79733N - first steel and gold model
Black Bay Bronze Bucherer Blue 79250BB - 2nd bronze model
Black Bay Harrods 79230G - first green bezel
Black Bay GMT 79830RB - first pepsi
Black Bay Fifty-Eight 79030N
Black Bay 36 with blue dial
Black Bay 41 79570
Black Bay 32 79580
Black Bay S&G champagne dial 79733N
Black Bay Chronograph S&G 79363N
Black Bay 32, 36, 41 in steel & gold
Black Bay Bronze 79250BA
Black Bay P01 70150
Black Bay Chronograph Dark 79350DK
Black Bay Fifty-Eight Blue 79030B
Black Bay Fifty-Eight 18K 79018V
Black Bay Fifty-Eight 925 silver 79010SG
Black Bay Chronograph 79360N
Black Bay Ceramic 79210CNU
Black Bay 32, 36, 41 silver dial
Black Bay Fifty-Eight Bronze 79012m
Black Bay Pro 79470
Black Bay GMT S&G 79833MN
Black Bay Chrono S&G 79363N champagne dial
I’m a seiko fan but lately I’ve had my eyes on orient and citizen
I always regret not getting this one new when it was released
Great review! Cheers 🍻 Note, another CZcamsr stated that the indices are printed, not applied. Strange. They look applied to me.
I heard that too but I think he meant the minute & hour indices are printed as the hour markers with Lume are clearly raised
@@MinuteMon, I just got ‘the call’ from my AD. My SJE093 is in. I hope I like it!
Should have been titled the price we pay for history
Which is ironical, considering that Seiko's entire DNA is based on affordability and value for money.
very well-made and informational video!
I've always liked the 62MAS. However, I had to try the San Martin SN007gb, with a grey/greenish dial. Damn. ... I really like it.
Good looking watch, great proportions. But when dozens of brands propose COSC certified regulation for less than USD 2,000, it's very hard to justify the price of that one, irrespective of how Seiko internally grades its movements. Admittedly, this was way worse with the 8L35 based reeditions sold considerably higher, but two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't think it's actually possible for a non Swiss brand to be COSC tested. Idk though
I love vintage Seiko digital watches
Looks great on that white rubber! I wear my SLA037 on a grey rubber might have to try a white one out
Seiko should reorganize themselves and make the branding and pricing easier for the consumers
1) all watches below 1k dollars are Seiko
2) all watches above 1k but below 3k should be in King Seiko category
3) all watches above 3k dollars should be in Grand Seiko category
All watches that are reissued as limited editions and anniversary should rather be made as a Grand Seiko tribute, that way the pricing is justified, like the king Seiko SJE095 which looks amazing
For 3500 dollars i'd rather have a Longines Master Collection moonphase chronograph OR a Seiko Turtle Padi and 3 Casios (F91W World Timer Calculator) plus spare change
The biggest issue with Seiko is the size of their watches, when they come out with a release with the right dimensions as this one, it’s a no brainer.
The aligned bezels watches will be a collector’s item as 90% are misaligned
I think all the 62mas look good on you 👍
I just want to point out facts in that the 6L37 is not equal to 8L35-55, 8L uses MEMS. Technology in the escarpment which is a big deal and covers two important aspects which are a lighter but stronger alloy and second the finish and polishing of the teeth on the escape wheel are among the tightest tolerances in the industry. In addition the plates and bridges are thick with internal cut outs to improve shock and prevent shifting of gears, wheel, levers etc. Let's not forget VPH as well. Please look up Guardian of the deep by Seiko which explains in detail about the 8L robustness. Yes the 6L37 had a few changes over the 6L35 for sport activities but no MEMS Technology in the escarpment and anchor and the grade of Spron alloy in the mainspring barrel etc. I own several SLA037, 43, 39, two SJE093 on different straps and I tell ya they different calibers. I Love both calibers especially the 6L37 compact thin design but it ain't making it into a 7-8K diver for a reason. Cheers.
Minute Mon: "It's $3,500."
1955 Doc Brown: "1.21 GIGAWATTS? 1.21 GIGAWATTS.......GREAT SCOTT!"
Great video! You mentioned that this watch has some kind of super hard coating on it. Do you know that for a fact? Diashield?
Thanks for watching! I have a pamphlet that Seiko provided our store that shows the SJE093 and says “Material: Stainless Steel with Super Hard Coating”
Don’t know if it’s Diashield
9:56 he is not here to tell you buy or not buy a watch unlike the watchCrunch guy.
Yeah, let's crucify the watchcrunch guy. How dare he recommend anything. You snowflakes might be offended.
The pip not lining up for thousands of dollars is crazy
It lines up fine what are you talking about
Been loving mine! Great review!
People complain about the lack of variety and now too much variety. If there’s something you like, buy it, if you don’t, then pick something else. Get over yourself 🙄
This is a watch for the people who need to have it. This is for the 62MAS/Seiko fans only. I’m saying this cause I don’t see real value paying 3500$ for this watch. First of all, a 6L movement at 3500$? That’s ridiculous, I really expected the 8L to be used at this price point. I would definitely for a BB PRO paying an extra 500$. You get an in house COSC certified movement, with an amazing bracelet. Seiko can be really disappointing these days.
I have the SBJ174 and love it …
I've had now a couple of Tudors (new Ranger and Pelagos 39) and now have an SLA043 Seiko. To be honest, Tudors have questionable quality control, and many of the dials are pretty sterile looking and meh. More tool-ish I get it, but the Seiko is a much better looking watch. Quality seems to be very good as well. One of their biggest issues is that they offer watches at so many price points it is hard for people to take them seriously in the $3-6k range. That, and the fact that they can't get the bezels aligned right and they don't regulate the movement. But I'd take the Seiko over either of the Tudors I've had. And to be fair, I would take my Omega SMP Nekton as a dive watch over any of them by a decent margin. BUT I really like the Seiko, and would absolutely consider the SJE for it's traditional size / slimmer case.
Beautiful watch!
Date window is a satin finish. Not to correct but to distinguish that it's a different finish from the hour markers.
Thank you!
The surface of the date window is polished like the indices, while its bevels have a sandblasted finish.
This over any tudor anyday. Get the one that looks better to you. Looks is the single most important thing
I enjoyed the review. Thanx
Fantastic watch
So,.is this still the only seiko you have?? 😂 Or did you break and get something else?
Thanks for the vid, i think ill try to find one. Im late to the game
While it looks like a dream, I wouldn't pay over 2k for a 6L37
Why do you think enthusiasts are interested in your budget constraints?
No one cares lol
@@ChromeMan04 👍
Where did you buy the dirty white tropic strap?
It’s from The Tropic Strap company 20mm
@@MinuteMon cool thanks for the reply!
You sure the indices are applied? I saw they were actually stamped as a one piece dial. Not to cut cost because applied indices appear on much cheaper models but it’s Seiko’s way to eliminate failure points in their designs. Which probably cost even more to do tbh.
Correct
I own this piece and yes the is entirely stamped using high pressure die, for this reason the Seiko logo is printed to eliminate weak points on a sport watch.
Ludicrous price. That's $4700CAD here in Canada! That's entry level Grand Seiko money. That's Longines & Tudor money. I love Seiko (own 8 of them), but I'll never pay more than $500 for one. And if I do it better be a Grand Seiko.
Great video! I went back and forth and am now the proud owner of the she093. Also own 2 bb58’s and am not regretting the is one bit. Like you said this is THE Seiko to get. Many can complain about the price which I understand, but seeing and wearing this in person, it’s 100% clear this is ok another level of quality compared to any other Seiko I’ve owned. And I’ve owned spb143,spb149,srpe093,2 Samurai’s, and still own the slx009.
way better than what Tudor have to offer
Ill get a BB54 for that money.
And I’m thinking I’m crazy for saving up for a new Alpinist.
Hey could you do a review on Carl F Bucherer heritage bicompax in black? Since Rolex bought bucherer wonder if their watches are going up down or generating more interest. Thank you.
I wish this watch came in a year early.
Correction. THAT sec hand style is not called lollipop, it is more like S’mores Stick. No for me cuz clearly Seiko strategy is to banking on hardcore collectors, they know those suckers would bite. I am not one of those suckers and refuse to be. Got family to feed, it’s a divorce or become a hardcore Seiko sucker.
handsome watch
How I wished the GS will have a same design as this….
The Seiko SLA017 destroys that inferior imposter.
It's a cool looking watch but when did Seiko loose their mind on their retails?
Quite a few years ago, unfortunately. When the SLA017 came out a few years ago at > USD 4,000, one could still get a Marine Master 300 at about USD 2,500 with the exact same unfinished / unregulated 8L movement. They are milking the great 62MAS design for all its worth.
With that price i could get a better Swiss watch. Still loves Seiko but not the price i'm gonna pay for a normal Seiko(Grand Seiko are exceptional)
Have you checked out the SLA055? That watch was for me, what this one was for you.
Its a nice watch, but its too small for bigger wrist sizes. I own the sla043 , and its better than my tudor black bay , in fit and finish. The tudor has a more accurate movement and a bracelet though. I think you have to see them in person to realise why they cost so much. Tudor are decent watches , but i got a san martin for under £200 , that is nearly as good as my tudor in regards to fit and finish.
Any chance of reviewing the Zenith PILOT Big Date Flyback? The new ceramic one.
how does the width of the bezel on the SPB143 compare to this watch
This one or the Longines Hydroconquest 39mm??!
This one 😉
Is that tropic 19mm? Where you get that from?
Yes, a light grey tropic strap from The Tropic Strap company
@@MinuteMon only 20 & 22mm on the tropic site. 🤷♂️
Yes, forgot to mention it's 20 mm, but I was able to squeeze it into the 19 mm lug width
I may have missed it, but how does the date changeover? Typical Seiko or does it switch at midnight on the nose?
This one is instanteous date change, more or less at midnight
Nice, thanks! As someone with a 7.25' wrist, this is the best 62MAS recreation bar none imho@@MinuteMon
Great Video. Just got mine may I know the brand of your strap and where you got them?
The light grey strap is from The Tropic Strap company
i know its old but about your video about watch irritation what do you think about white gold?
Which spring bar do you used for the Tropic? I try to use the one from this watch and it way too big.
The work around for the lume at the 3 o’clock marker may be somewhat clever for regulations, I think it looks hideous. Especially in the dark, that looks like a after thought which I wouldn’t want on a $3500 watch. Also an applied logo and a steel bezel feel cheap for the money. Atleast $3500 gets you a signed crown which my €1250 “steelmaster” didn’t get!
Danged if I can see why anyone would buy any of these $3,500 to $5,000 pieces in preference to the competition with better movements, finishing, design, and resale value.
Hey, what about the bezel is it scratch resistant?