What Did a Man at Arms Wear? | 15th C | Wars of the Roses
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2022
- In this video, what did a man at arms wear, Kevin Hicks is with his son Josh and Steve Arnold members of the Oxford Household, we’ll be showing you how they would have armed and equipped a man at arms of the Wars of the Roses period during the 15th century.
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We used to complain about assembling our jungle combat kit and LBEs back in the 1990s. Compared to this 1490s kit, we had it relatively easy. This was very instructive, Sir. Thank you from a fellow veteran on the other side of the world.
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Just a quick note, his kit is well distributed about his body. Much of the modern kit is held, or strapped to the back, making it feel worse...
Roger that, sir! Agreed 100% from a fellow veteran on the other side of the pond.
In Basic in 84, I remember at first not being a fan of all of the pouches on my LBE. That, and my steel pot. Ha ha.
Armorers are just amazing people, just for their patience, if nothing else. I was lucky enough to be friends with a blade smith in Texas, and he decided to try to make a chain mail shirt. He made a piece about half the length of an arm, and then quit. I asked him why, and he said bluntly, that’s awful and tedious. I can’t imagine not only the creation of such a piece, but actually made to the fittings of an individual. Amazingly talented craftsmen.
I imagine there wasn't much to do in medieval times and having a craft to keep you occupied like that was more tolerable than it would be for modern people.
Honestly... After watching LindyBeige newer video about getting his full suit of Armour... FINALLY...After YEARS... YEARS
Also, as the Production of the Lord of the Rings showed (& did), it was more of a Medieval Assembly Line. Back then some Apprentices made the wire, another group of Apprentices cut them to length, then a 3rd Group made the wire lengths into loops, Then the Armorer assembled the loops and interconnected them, then Riveted them! (In the larger shops, for a high enough person, the Journeyman interconnected the loops, and the Master Armorer Riveted them!!)
Of course the size of the Groups of Apprentices and Number of Groups could vary with a smaller number having to do more than one task........
@@timengineman2nd714 you really believe that.???
Don't get me wrong, I totally get what you mean and why you say it, but I'm thinking that is a bit to narrow scoped. Or more a certain situation.
U believe what you say is true but... That is more an example of the Nobility, or maybe large cities, or those places with greater wealth...
I'm fairly certain that the MAJORITY of cases, that is not the way.
Most are smaller villages, not so many "helpers" of any kind.
It was more, just the Smith, his Hammer and a 'quaint little forge'.
Yes. He probably had an apprentice... Maybe two or so, but that's kind of it.
Or... A couple small Forges in an area... And all of them sort of fighting to. . . Well, to survive really. And to see who gets the better reputation.
From what I have learned watching these channels, and reading and such. I'm fairly certain TLOTR would be representing the Minority of situations.
But yes. Sir what you say is true, at time... LOTR is a good representation of very certain situations.
@@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 Yes, I was thinking of the larger cities and upon occasion the "big names" in armor making of the time.
My understanding is/was that the local (& small) Smitty would be more for maintenance and repairs .vs. making a whole new large piece of armor.
Let's face it, although it was well known by blacksmiths of that time how to make Chainmail, you're talking about getting the Iron Ore, making Wrought Iron, making that into Wire, making that into Rings, "Weaving" i.e. Connecting the Rings together, Riveting the Rings, by the hundred if not the thousands to make a large piece of chainmail!
I doubt that any village Blacksmith could actually do that in a timely manner and still do all of the other repairs and manufacturing that was required by the village, especially during harvest time!!
Interesting
Even in medieval armor, there was an emergency off function for wounds or compromised plates.
Really shows the thought into the design for battle practicality.
Great video as always
i bet that a knight who has dropped his armor should be spared in the battle :D
@@vihreelinja4743 well of course he should. Just like any combatant who dropped his arms and decided to end the battle due to injury.
But like today, it's only in theory and hardly a guarantee that everyone played by the rules
What a fine young man you’ve raised. Great to see a proper dressing of armour
Thanks John 👍🏻
It’s very interesting to see that even back then a soldier was heavy no matter how modern we get soldiers are always gonna be heavy
Yes, the weight is quite equivalent.
Ive watched a video and the reckon the soliders carry weight hasn't much change from Roman time to now
The weight is more evenly distributed than modern soldiers
As an American veteran, I am Proud to be a patron of yours, love your content my friend.
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!!
Do you go by another name on Patreon?
@@thehistorysquad you are most welcome! And I am Patrick Mourin on patreon. =)
@Mandalorian Actual Perfect, now I know - thanks Patrick 👍🏻
I've given you a shout out in one of my UK videos that'll be coming up over the coming month.
Thank you for sponsoring.
I knew we were in for a good one when I saw it was 15 mins long and had armour.
Fantastic. Brings back memories from my days as a squire before I became as knight in one of the companies here. (Reenactor with actual fighting)
Great seeing your son and his mates also.
Gives rise to the saying “Dressed to Kill”! Great episode as ever. Thank you.
Cheers Wayne, yes, Dressed to Kill is the business name of the armourer who made my knight lights 😉
Brilliant content. Interesting to see all through history the added weight to the combat soldier remains constant between 60 and 80 pounds
Each piece has to be perfectly fitted and carefully installed. I love the idea of armor but the reality is crazy. Expensive as a sports car and just as dangerous if not properly fitted and installed. There are so many myths about armor but the realistically it's just a piece of military technology. Thank you for another informative and insightful film Kevin, you are one of the masters.
Great analogy Phillip, & thank you 👍🏻
When I was learning light sabres duelling we was taught the bastard sword grip and the 8 circles of attack and how to defend.
It really does work.
Would love to have Mr Hicks at my dinner table, fascinating evening of conversation I think!
Cheers Andy 😉
That was fantastic! Looking at the skills involved in making that armour is mind boggling for the time. No presses, or sheet metal machines, all hand beaten and fitted to the person who commissioned it to wear in battle. Thank you Kevin and son and squire! Lol
Glad you enjoyed it!
I once had a professor explaining how men at arms complicate man count in medieval records. It gets very complex.
I'll elaborate what I was told in a reply.
You might be interested in seeing if Tod of Tod's Workshop would be interested in a collaboration.
So... What I was told...
Is that the number of "lances" or "knights" either could or could not include their household combative retinue..
So in any given battle, a knight or lance may be anywhere from a minimum of two men - although all of them might not be exactly engaged in combat at any given moment... You'd have to have someone to provide spare lances at a minimum....
And most knights would have at least some men at arms who could function either on foot or mounted, from my understanding... And sometimes basically everyone would fight on foot anyhow just to confuse everything, particularly the English - who, I may note, also had mounted archers - not not horseback archers, that I know of, but definitely horse mobile archers (I found that very interesting, kinda like pulling artillery with a vehicle in modern combat.)
Great comment Brian, thanks 👍🏻
@@brianknezevich9894So the archers were dragoon infantry effectively. Mounted for mobility and posibly logistics but fought on foot. The horses were for escape or maneauver, otherwise with the bagage.
One of Kevin's videos talked about number of horses for a Knight. So that would be Charger to fight the battle, Palfry to ride to the battle and Courser to run away from a defeat. Likely they would have two of each. So that is one Knight by himself, plus the servants and pack animals and posibly wagon for them. It all adds up.
This is what you call a Lance fournie. There had to be enough palfries for all the unit to travel to battle, the Man-at-Arms/Knight [Heavy Cavalry] and the Sergeant/Coutilier [Lighter infantry] (France) would be expected to fight mounted on chargers and have the escape courser. There would be a page/squire to assist the man-at-arms with extra equipment and some archers to fight as infantry. So if you had 2 cavalry and 2-4 infantry and some servants this becomes a mixed unit with inbuilt logistics. The French had companies of 100 Lances so that is a variable sized mixed unit with effectively circa 100 heavy cavalry/or heavy infantry if dismounted, 100 lighter cavalry/or lighter infantry if dismounted and 200-400 archers with 100-200 servants and 1,000 horses.
It makes sense to have the connected archers to provide a retreating skirmish line for the cavalry or even enfilade fire to the battle line.
There is a nice little article on Wikipedia for how certain areas did their Lance fournies.
Mr. Hicks, you must be a very proud father. Joshua seems like a fine young man. Huzzah!
.......and very tall!
I'm very proud indeed 👍🏻
Thanks for the in-depth video!
I've recently read B. Cornwall's "Grail Quest" series with Thomas of Hookton, 14th century archer from Dorset as the central character. I've already watched all of your videos on archery/archers, so it was a double pleasure to read.
P.S. For some reason I got your face as a mental image of one of the characters, veteran archer commander Will Skeat :)
Cheers!
You may know I was used by Bernard as research for this series and now with my (slightly) advancing years I'm quite happy to be imagined in the boots of old Will 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad that’s awesome! Did archers really burn their old bows to send them to hell?
@@cholulahotsauce6166 No, just to keep their hands warm 😉
@@thehistorysquad as someone who’s currently reading the series this makes me love it even more! That’s amazing.
Definitely Old Skeat! ;)
Do you swear like him off camera? 😂
I’m so happy your son participates in this history. Great man at arms, you gave me a lot more to look into.
Short, informative and to the point. Just perfect.
Amazing, love how intricate and well put together this armor is. Armor like this is truly a work of art.
It's a lovely kit for sure! Very impressive and I appreciate how you included the weapons into the wait calculation
Thanks. We'll have another film on the weapons coming up in a few weeks 👍🏻
Very nice walk through of what it use to take. Well done
Thanks for truthfully educating us about what it took to prepare a man in arms
Yet another great video, I just love your models. Absolutely fantastic. Thanks Kevin, Dawn ❤❤❤
Marvellous video, so interesting. Thank you gentlemen for taking the time to make this video👍
Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Thank you, Kevin and friends, for these superb glimpses into history! 👍🏻
Our pleasure!
Good to see you in the field with others. And with family keeping up the tradition.
That's for sure, it was a lovely day & we got lots more footage to share too 👍🏻
Kevin, I absolutely love your videos. They're straight to the point, full of knowledge and history. They're just very calming and interesting. Can't believe you don't have more views. I subscribed and I told some family members who are interested in the same concepts about you! Thanks for all your hard work! - From Pennsylvania, United States
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing.
Interestingly, I used to live in England near the village of Penn in Buckinghamshire. The vault of the church had the family all neatly stacked up in coffins of William Penn, whom I believe to be the founder of Pennsylvania. 👍🏻
Thank you so much for the video, as an aspiring author, I love watching and learning about all of these pieces of accurate armour. Thank you, sir, I can't wait to learn more from you.
Cheers Joseph & good luck with your writings 👍🏻
Awesome video, very fascinating and I love how your son also has a passion for history too!
Really enjoyed that video Kevin, thank you.
Fascinating. Thanks for posting this.
Our pleasure!
MOST INFORMATIVE.
FASCINATING SUBJECT MATTER.
Well Done Kevin 👍
Cheers Robert, glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
thank you, after so many books about medieval times, your videos are incredible
As always a great informational video Kevin.
Thanks 👍
I love all your videos. Your son Josh and friends are awesome. Thank you.
Cheers David, we think so too, we hope to see more of them next spring 👍🏻
What a great video! So informative, and extremely interesting to see the armor donned piece by piece.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fascinating channel! Love it!
Been waiting for this banger! Much respect to you as you continue to provide accurate historical knowledge to the community!
Cheers Conrad, glad you liked it 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad you don’t realize how happy this just made me, greetings and much love from America!
Truly amazing and well heavy. That is a lot of hand work to create this. Wow
very interesting - big thanks to everyone involved.
Wasn't it a great collaboration 😉
Such a fantastic kit, like absolutely love it and even though i have a similar set of armor my self i still love watching these. Great vid as always Mr hicks !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great, informative video. Always look forward to your content. Thank you for spending the time to make this. Cheers!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻
Thanks for another excellent video!
Wow! Thanks for sharing that interesting part of history.
Glad you enjoyed it
Greetings once again from nova Scotia, fantastic video as usual good sir. I am happy to see the love of reenactment carries on, really made me smile. Thank you once again, safe journeys, and as always best regards.
Cheers Arthur - keep well 👍🏻
Beautiful armour, thank you for sharing!
Amazing stuff lads...just astounding how was made to being put on your son Josh...sun shining and all ...I was thirsty just watching him wearing it....another great vid keV.
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers.
This was fascinating and very informative. Thank you very much for making and sharing this video! From an American who has been obsessed with armored knights and combat since a child. I recently found your channel and I find it awesome! 👍
You're very welcome! I'm glad you're liking the videos 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Loving them, squad!
This was amazing
Thank you very much
Awsome demonstration! Thank you. I love your Chanel!
You are so welcome!
Just magnificent!
Your son looked great with the full harness on Kevin! Excellent video, hope you had a great time back in England.
I certainly did, thank you 👍🏻
Good to see your channel getting some traction
Yeah thanks, it's nice seeing it grow 👍🏻
I was an American soldier in Berlin in the 80s! We shared our site with the RAF and the British Army. T-berg. Great channel!
Brilliant & informative as always. Thanks Kevin.👍
Glad you enjoyed it
12.12 the detail on that dagger is great. Joshua is a veey good son withstandig such an onslaught. What a torture it all is.
I particularly liked your explanation of the phrase 'get to the point' - that is absolutely fascinated. Great work Kevin 🤴🇬🇧
Cheers 👍🏻
Love your films Kevin .so interesting.
Cheers Paul 👍🏻
Thank you guys for the breakdown of the armor of a man at arms. Looking to put together a set similar to this!
Excellent, good luck!
Great video thank you loved it 👍👍
Very interesting, never knew how it was all put together. All together it's very impressive looking.
This channel is on a rocket to the moon. Congrats Kevin, you deserve it. Lets see 1 million followers.
Cheers buddy, I hope so, I'm having a blast and hope it continues 👍🏻
I love that link to a common colloquial “get to the point” hahaha that is brilliant! Thanks for the great video as always!
You bet!
Fascinating! Great vid Kev!
Nice hats, BTW....
Cheers Pete!
This is so intersting! I have seen these armours in museums, but never on a real person. So interesting to see how everything moves.
Wow. These guys must have been something else. I think that sometimes we get so wrapped up in what we have today and forget the wonders of yesterday. Great video!
Well said!
I fought in Helmand in 2010 alongside the British Royal Marines and the SAS.
Im a US Marine Scout Sniper.
If you ever want to swap war stories I'd love to connect.
Either way, your channel is superb, Sir
Semper Fi
Hey, cheers buddy - happy to connect anytime. The contact form on my website would be a good place to start 👍🏻 or Patreon 😉
Brilliant. I'm studying the Wars of the Roses and the hundred years War. This just thrilled me to bits.
Great, there'll be more to come
Thanks for the video
As an avid history buff, I seriously appreciate your channel. I'm learning new things every day from you. 😃.
That's great to hear, thanks very much 👍🏻
This was very informative. Great work historysqaud
Glad you think so, thanks!
Congratulations on the Platinum Jubilee 👑💐🌺
What a great video. Although I am an American, I thank all three of you for your service to your country.
Our pleasure!
Fantastic and informative as always! Just starting to branch into Wars of The Roses reenactment from 13th Century so will be sure to keep an eye out on the field for the Oxfords!
Please do, they're a good bunch 👍🏻
This was a great video, something different than the usual! More collabs with your son please if/when possible! Thank you!
Thank you! We did manage to shoot some more footage and that will be released over the coming weeks 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Brilliant, will look forward to it! Cheers! :)
Great stuff, your videos are always so interesting. Can’t wait for you to hit 100k subs, very close now
I know right? It's been a crazy few months watching the channel grow as quickly as it has. Thanks as every for your support Kiwifruit 👍🏻
always love ur videos kev, They are really informative and laid back. I wish more people would do more videos with re-enactment groups as it is an epic hobby.
It really is. When I go back to the UK, I'll be sure to do some more 👍🏻
U doing one with the Warwicks they did a good show at avonscroft on the multiperiod in March.
@@leithafae All my WW1 kit was in Canada 😉
@@thehistorysquad ah fair/ oh well if u ever fancy trying an american rev war event. I am i a group called redcoats and revolutionaries who are great with loan kit for new people. Its a really laid back group and be good to see you again.
Thanks! I am really interested in that era, I used to portray a redcoat at Blenheim Palace. Where are you based?
It is amazing you came back to England to film this video. I started watching this channel thanks to the 100 years war series. It made me realise that the armour of those days hadn't advanced much from the Romans, 1000 years before. The same rear neck guard on the helmets, the same chain mail, the same pointed spears and catapult artillery for sieges. You mention the armour was light but having to see out of very narrow slits can be a drawback if you can see around you to swing your sword. Having the wind knocked out of your sails due to the corset means the men were often winded in battle, and out of puff. It's ok to fight for 30mins and swing your arms around, but after an hour, your arms would be as heavy as mill stones. Compare this with Hannibal's time, where 35,000 Carthaginian mercenaries fought (virtually naked) all day long. Or even the Picts, who did similar, although in a rather more chilly climate. I'm into the British dark age battles myself, and have compiled a huge list of them, but I doubt I will ever write them into a book.
Thanks very much for the visit, I'm glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
To say armour had not advanced much in 1000 years is about as wrong as you can possibly be
Good content and history that fascinates
Fascinating!!! 👍👍
Very interesting all the pieces that go together to protect the wearer. Suiting him up reminds me of my days as a hockey goalie getting dressed for a game. It would take me 1/2 hr by myself just to get everything on.
What a brilliant video!❤
Thanks 👍🏻
Don't worry about the sound mate, this was great as ever! :) - Your mate was in the Staffs, bless him my Great Grandad was S. Staffs in WW1.
Cool, cheers Jon 👍🏻
Excellent video! I am surprised that the plates on the arms are just half way around so the inside looks quite vulnerable. But it certainly had to work otherwise it wouldn't been used
As usual a wonderful realization of that period. I understand weight was designed to be carried by the hips. I’ve also read that weaponry from that period frequently resembled various kinds of non wheel and gear based can openers for obvious reasons. I’ve also read that the coat of plates was frequently preferred due to comfort and flexibility even by some top commanders. Obviously with full harness shields and targs were unnecessary. Presentations of which you are a sterling example that bring the genius and complexities of the past so we might learn and admire them are invaluable to our future. Thank you and those that sail with you so much.
Hi there, thanks for watching. The fluting is actually a German, gothic detail design and the Milanese is the rounded design. Josh's gauntlets were gothic in design, the rest was more Milanese in style 👍🏻
note that shields are still used well onto the 1500s
both pavese (centre grip shields) and targes (strapped cavalry shields)
they become a little sturdier as time goes on, faced with iron ore, glass shaards or antler, for instance, but still layered with wood, sinew aand rawhide under that like before.
not to mention bucklers.
Reminds me of an armadillo. I took a picture of the engraving on a set of Italian armor that I love to a jeweler and had him engrave a ring for my 30th wedding anniversary.
Nice to see living-history groups getting back out in the open. I've yet to be able to get to an event post-Pandemic but I'm looking forward to doing so. Hope you enjoyed the rest of your stay back here :)
I did, thank you. We have a few more of these videos to come, but the rest of our time was spent catching some quality time with family and friends 👍🏻
I was watching a video of yours right now! Greetings from Spain :)
Loving it Kevin, 3 former soldiers, thank you all for what you’ve done for your country 🤘🏹
Cheers Mick 👍🏻
Brilliant video and what a formidable look. Would not want to stand in the way of someone armored like that.
This channel is great.
This videos very informative, I'm working on my first fantasy novel so this information will certainly help for the background of men at arms. Much appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
That's a great vídeo!!
I tried my new Mail Armour on Thursday for the Jubilee, it was a interested experience.
Fantastic video
Thanks for the visit
Very neat, thanks
I already had endless respect for Kevin and this channel but when he said "I'm glad I'm just a common bowman because this stuff is beyond me." Limitless respect replaced endless. 10/10 thank you so much for this content.
Wow, thanks Chris, I'm speechless 👍🏻
This channel takes my mind off the troubles of the world
Great video, Kevin. That sound at 04:08 caught me off guard though 😂
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It must give an archer pride, to see his son be able to afford and wear the kit of a man at arms.
Oh indeed it does 👍🏻
Great film! Much love from Germany 🖤
Thank you 🙌
Fantastic as usual 👌🏼
Thanks again Will!