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So when I deployed we had these people come on board who where from the Coat of Arms College who started a company to look up people's families so I asked for mine to be looked. I gave them my name and they got back to me in about a month after looking. Turns out my Ancestors fought at the battle of Hastings earning honors and a minor Nobility and were Woodsman and Game Wardens before that. My family's Coat was a azure shield divided by the metal with two falcons on the azure. Closed Helmet and a hound atop it, and the words Virtue Semper Virte. So I wanted to do some more digging and turns out my family already knew this and had an old book with the same coat of arms on it.
Fckin shit thats awesome dude my family is actually the royal family of Dhaka bangladesh but here we are in india living normal lives due to the ones who still enjoy royalty lolz no hard feeling dude just telling u my story bcoz u shared yours
In the middle ages, servants would assume the name of their lord or, in some cases, the place they came from or the trade they practiced. My own surname is an example of this: Wal-ton simply means that my ancestors came from a walled-town. The town would need defensive walls to protect it from attack, so, an inhabitant of a walled town would be (relatively) safe from attack.
So, few things: Heralds were originally messengers from the king, but it was useful for them to know who they were talking to, so they got to know the various arms and then over time that became their main job. Or at least in England. Also, the Collage of Arms in the video is for England (and Wales) only: Scotland (Lord Lyon King of Arms) and (Northern) Ireland (Norroy and Ulster King of Arms) have their own.
Hi. I'm from the Netherlands. In my country we distinguish two kinds of heraldry achievements. First that of nobility. With that comes the socalled Blue Book, a formal registry of every noble family and persons of rank within these families. Secondly we have "patriciaat". These are families of merit who gained the right to wear a coat of arms and everything that comes to it. They are registered in the socalled Red Book. My family has gained the right to bear a heraldry achievement by... similarity in name with the family who originally bore this heraldry achievement! Go figure: our family name being the same as their's gave us that right (which came of in the 20th century no less). The coat of arms is a silver shield on the shield a red griffon facing to the right. Between it's upper paws it carries a pole, which is actually a socalled (crossbow)bolt. And that's our family name. There is also the top helmet and the blanket that waves around it. The original Bolts were professional mercenaries who's speciallity it was to set fire within fortified structures by means of firing fiery Bolts. Our family were just simple peasant folk who came up in the world by means of hard work and craftyness. But still, it's kinda cool to be bearer of a heraldry achievement that dates back to at least 1558!
I recently found out that I have lineage to the Monarchy. I submitted a petition to the College Coat of Arms Q4/2020 - w/ no response. I have LVM’s to f/u in the status of paper work - no response. Does anyone know of a better/different way to submit this paper to get registered w/ the Courts? Thxs.
Italy maintained a similar book, il libro d'oro - the Golden Book from 1922-1946. However it was far from complete. My family arms date back to the 1400s when the part of Italy we're from was the Duchy of Savoy, later the Kingdom of Sardinia. Arms & nobility granted from 1922 (ascension of fascism) to 1946 (abolishment of the monarchy) are illegal ex post facto. It took me twenty five years to find our arms, in a series of manuscripts maintained by a branch of the former royal family
Hoi, ik woon ook in Nederland (echter ben ik engels) maar ik was er echt niet van bewust dat er coat of arms in Nederland waren, de meeste mensen die ik ken hebben echt geen flauw idee wat die van hun zijn
This is a very helpful video! Something I think should be pointed out, however, is that the rule of tinctures isn't really a rule but rather a design suggestion that is often advised. Historically it was broken very often, and the insistence of it's importance is more modern. Some heraldic traditions still don't hold it as very important.
the rule was followed for simple reasons: you can spot metal on colour easly from a wide distance. see modern traffic signs, they use the same method :)
Indeed, the rule of tincure is there to make people design arms that are easy to spot and recognize over distances since that would've been their main purpose, to be identifed in battles.
@@JuanCanuck hahaha youtube algorithm helped him a lot though... When i wrote the comment he had 20 subs and ~100 views or something like that. It might have been late, but it surely helped him
After my father retired, he took a part time job at the College of Arms working as a researcher for Clarenceux King of Arms. He absolutely loved the work.
I had a heraldry phase a few years ago and this taught me some stuff I wasn’t aware of back then. The tips about spotting fraudulent achievements were especially helpful. There’s a weirdly obsessive yet misinformed fascination with heraldry where I’m from so if it comes up in conversation, I’ll send your video their way. Your channel is underrated, by the way!
Since the USA doesn't observe the law of arms, you'll often see people buying plaques and things with "their family crest" on it, when in fact it is the arms of some family of the same name but to which they have no right. There's even a shop in Walt Disney World where you can buy items with coats-of-arms on them that the sellers will tell you are "your" coat-of-arms. Very few Americans realize that coats-of-arms are granted to individuals, and are not always hereditary. And even when they are hereditary, sharing a name doesn't mean you are related, or that your relationship branched off after the arms were granted. Of course, since the USA doesn't observe the law of arms, anyone can display any arms they want here, but it really displays ignorance to do so.
In western europe, the CoA is granted to the individual, but in eastern europe, there are many CoA's that are granted to families. Eastern european heraldry is vastly different, and does not use many of the rules talked about in this video.
@@baronedipiemonte3990 My family came to what is now the USA in 1609, and from what my research found we never had a coat of arms. So I came up with my own and had a British herald from the International Association of Amateur Heralds emblazon it, and an Australian heraldic artist from the same organization provided a nice rendering of that blazon. Since the USA doesn't honor the law of arms, I registered a copyright of it so no one else can legally use it. Because my grandfather was in the Army Air Corps and remained after it became the US Air Force, and because two uncles were also in the Air Force, as were my brother and I, I used themes from the Army Air Corps/Air Force roundel and the new Army beret flash, combined with the traditional element of a lion as the main charge and the crest. Arms: Bleu-Celeste a Lion rampant guardant Argent armed and langued Gules a Bordure Azure charged with Thirteen Mullets pierced Gules. (Normally the number of charges on a border would vary with the size of the rendering, but I specified 13 to represent the 13 original colonies.) Mantling: Bleu-Celeste doubled Argent. Crest: A Demi-Lion rampant Gules holding in its forepaws within a Circlet Argent a Mullet Argent pierced of the field.
@@seikibrian8641 And that sounds great ! "Looks" amazing (from the Blazon). I knew out family had one, and I was determined to find it. And after 26 years of digging here and there, I finally did. But I won't publically list the blazon as it's not in any publically available "data base", and I don't want it used by anyone other than REAL family (and not even some of them to be honest).
@@baronedipiemonte3990 "...I don't want it used by anyone other than REAL family (and not even some of them to be honest)." LOL! Yeah, I hear you. We all have some of "those" types in our families.
Very few talk about heraldry on CZcams, sow I am always happy when someone do! Thankful that you did, and for the most part I really liked your video. The only thing that should have been clarified more, is that you are talking mostly about english heraldry traditions. Which for the most part is very different from the majority of Continental European heraldry. Even in the UK heraldry traditions varies between Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. Since English is the lingua franca nowadays, the confusion grows when people only reads English literature on heraldry. But hope you will make more, I for my part will happily check out the rest of your videos!
to be honest I actually started out as an eye-roller, but you are indeed hitting all the heraldic nails on the head. spread that rule of tincture, brother! subscribed
I do quite a lot with Ancestry and hate to leave a finished profile image blank. So, I look up the family COA / Crests / Symbols, etc. I've built up a descent library of images. I'm so glad I came across this video to explain a lot of the questions I had.
This explains the Gould arms very well, thank you. Side note, the motto translates to "Be It Not Unto Us", which I've further "translated" to "Not My Problem". ;)
The specifics often varied a lot by region as well. For example, in Poland, basically every family in a region shared a coat of arms they could all use-very practical when like half the population was considered “technically nobility” regardless of actual wealth or status-and basically all of said arms used the same red & white color scheme, making a Polish army displaying full heraldic arms more uniform than its neighbors. Meanwhile in a lot of German territories, they HAD an equivalent of the rule of tinctures, but sable/black was considered a “semi-metal” and useable on top of either metals or colors (more modern colors like bleu celeste are sometimes treated as semi-metals too), and they used two entirely different styles of helmet instead of the position of the visor to denote the noble/middle-class (burghur) divide. And the Catholic Church basically treated the specific violation of the rule of tinctures of putting or/gold/yellow & argent/silver/white together, a special trademark they could hand out in achievements of arms as a sign of Papal approval, hence the Papal States/Vatican City and Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem flags having yellow on white.
Mantling is 'torn' if the bearer has seen battle... not just decorative. Royal helmets face forward, not to the side. The divisions and charges can also be used to denote standing within the family, eg first son, second son etc
I agree. Although, you speak of "Britain" only, but it was an European tradition in every country. At least I know the same for most of Europe, not sure how far around.
Most of them actually have a cool story behind it. Like when the noblemans life was saved when his carriage was rolling down a road unstopably by a deer raming his antlers into the wheels. The actual Coat of arms had a upper half of the deer rampant with the bottom half a wheel both in gold on a green field. It actually exists
I'm surprised to find your informative videos with minimum views. I like the way you deliver informations. It's more clear than from other channels 🤭. I already subscribe and turn on the notification bell for every video you'll upload. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow. Hihi
As a writer, I felt like this is important if you write about noble families. My characters are part of a noble family and it is based on a Cornish noble family (possibly the Edgecumbes).
Very well printed and timely for me, as I have discovered that some of my ancestors were the Webbs of Stratford upon Avon, not a noble family, but rather a long line of knights. Thank you for this!
Technically, “noble” does not mean having a hereditary title, but just someone slightly notable, like an Esquire or just a Gentleman, so any University graduate (i.e., B.A. or better) or commissioned officer would count. Thus, any of your knightly ancestors were nobility.
@@davidweihe6052 well as I understand it, nobles have hereditary title… knights do not. Anyway I discovered later that the whole lineage was faulty 😂 none of those men were likely my ancestors and at least one of them probably did not exist! Fun story … and published long ago, but rubbish.
My family has a crest/coat of arms developed in the late 1800s lol. Going back 4 or 5 great grandfathers (J.P. Graves) leads to someone who was the key player in the development of the City if Spokane. He had it made to show his wealth. Kinda funny if you ask me
Since the colors they could pull out of the clay varies from one locality to another there is no mystery why different Kingdoms used different colors as identifiers since local coloring agents were used to manufacture local clothing . Images would have been added later to show individual leaders/warriors . All pretty logical in its progression but interesting none the less in how it actually came about .
Good video. My only point of complaint is that there is no such thing as a "family coat of arms". Arms were granted to individuals, not families. Through inheritance it was possible for multiple people in the same family to bear the same coat of arms (or a similar one, but that's a different point), but not necessarily. It is not the case that people have the right to a coat of arms just because they are in the same family (or have the same surname), as the person granted it. It requires a male line of descent from the grantee, or the highest female line if there are no heirs male.
I don’t think my family ever created a heraldic achievement but my parents did create a banner a while ago. It was a bit cliché lol. It was a blue background (I don’t know why, but as it’s not any of their favourite colour, I guess it’s because of our French ancestry) with a rampant golden lion on it. Lol
Thank you for breaking down the meaning and history of The coat of arms.. Even today in the 21st century Professional association football club badges are a evolved version of that City or towns coat of arms.. A prime example being The city of Newcastle Upon- Tyne .. And the famous football club Newcastle United F.C. FORTITER. TRIUMHANS, DEFENDIT..The most northernly English city that never surrendered or was overrun by the Scots.. Triumph by defence !!
Loved this video. Ty so much for the details! Questions: I come from 2 families that have 2 different Coats of Arms and Mottos. My husband also comes from a family that has one. Mine are Welsh and the other Scottish, but my husband is Spainaird. Since I am female, would that mean I no longer can use our family's CoA, and I must use my husbands now? Just out of curiosity. I don't expect it to actually mean anything to anyone else since we are American, and it's 2023. I just want to know how that would be handled, historically. I'm a MacDonald, but since that was 2 generations ago, can I still have the bragging rights? Can I Pokemon it and collect/use them all? Ty in advance.
Herald originally was a term for a messenger. Heraldry, the word, probably came from the idea that the herald would display his master's flag, upon which was his sigil. Since he had to display the sigil, it became associated with the herald. The herald had to display from whom he came to ensure he made it to the person to whom he spoke. It was the highest form of diplomatic faux pas to kill the herald. Love how you said, "go forth" at the end.
One of the earliest periods of the use of a coat of arms was in the year 1030, when on the 29th of Juli of that same year at the Battle of Stiklestadr in Norway, Konungr Olaf Haraldsson of Norway fought against the army of King Kanutr the Great of England and Danmark.....ordered his army to paint their sheilds all white with a gold cross, inorder to identify each other in the battle.
@420rgb2 2 you need permission still to create new arms in england by the Earl Marshal aka Duke of Norfolk. ;) permission is of course easier and immediately if his boss decided the matter; Elizabeth the Eternal issuing a lettern patent is superior :D
I recently found out that I have lineage to the Monarchy. I submitted a petition to the College Coat of Arms Q4/2020 - w/ no response. I have LVM’s to f/u in the status of paper work - no response. Does anyone know of a better/different way to submit this paper to get registered w/ the Courts? Thxs.
@@ecaldwell9 Assuming you are in England/Wales ... no. Use of a coat of arms without proper authority is a violation of the law, as well as being tacky. If you feel it has been a long time with no action, give them a call. It's their JOB. Be courteous and patient, and be aware that there are both rules, and feed, involved. As for being "connected to royalty", or anyone else, you will need to be able to prove it. Marriage licenses, birth registrations, etc.
@@RichWoods23 Very likely *not* going to help your case. They will probably argue that she is lying about the paternity of her baby. Unless there is some other actual *proof* -- DNA maybe? Birthmark (a trope, but it might help), correspondence, something like that -- the odds are very, very slim.
I was pleasantly surprised to see when you used your own family's coat of arms to explain blazon that it was the same as my family's. I can't help but wonder if we share common ancestry.
Wonder what acorns on top of the helmet might stand for? My family "heraldry achievement" (terminology according to this video) was used for three consecutive generations(!) of mayors in a German town beginning in the 16th century, and I expect heraldry was very strictly regulated at the time. Also I've always wondered why there is a helmet on top of the shield/coat of arms, since none in the family were military men. The actual coat of arms is kind of cute, because it actually describes my family name, it's a pictogram! It depicts a mideval farmer holding up a sickle - what was used for harvesting things like grass - and my name is Grassman! A really good descriptive farmers name. Wonder how old the name is, since the clothing of the farmer in the preserved seals I think is a much older, mideval style, like 12-14th century, but oldest recording of my family is 1590, when they became mayors. (So preserved in the city archives.)
"The Oswalt family crest should just be a pair of eyes rolling off to the side, a bag of Cheetos, and then the F word. That would be our shield that you'd see retreating from the great battles of history. "F this - bows and arrows? Nobody told me anything about bows and arrows, goodbye."" - Patton Oswalt
The main reason I got into SOIAF was because of the details of their Heraldry haha. It’s something from history that I love to research and wish their was more info on medieval heraldry.
For the colour part i recall colours actually called email sing. and emaux plr. Or is it only in french ? Also isn't green sinople ? Might only be in french too ^^'
The symbol at the beginning I would call a sigil. The whole coat-of-arms, the Achievement. One other thing: at least in the USArmy, all regiments will have such Heraldry. My regiment, the 12th Infantry, had the field Divided by crenallations(mssp?)to signify the taking of a fort, I believe, in the Spanish-American War. Also, the 12th manned Ft. McHenry during the bombardment that gave us The Star-Spangled Banner. I believe it was the taking of the fort in Cuba which is being Heralded, but my memory may be incorrect. The Crest of the Sigil isn't a crest at all, but a Knighted Arm (don't know a better way to describe a limb in armor) seizing an Enemy Banner. I believe all US military units have such Heraldic Sigils, Achievements. Probably every western military as well.
"Mantling" is shown wrong at 7:48 in your video, (but right for instance at 5:55 and 7:35) as it looks as if the fabric comes out of the shield. The mantling fabric (cloth) was draped over the helmet to prevent the helmet getting hot in the sun. As this fabric ended up being damaged and cut during battle (blows over the head), it is represented in strips coming down from the helmet. This mantling is represented in the 2 main colours used on the shield, one colour for the inside and the other for the outside of the fabric. The torse kept the fabric that was draped over the helmet in its place and is again shown in the two main colours of the shield. Therefore, a part of the mantling fabric should pop out from under the torse on the front side of the helmet. Also; a pity that you don't show ladies' coats of arms: in the Netherlands we represent the coat of arms of a non-married lady with a "shield" in the form of a diamond (lozenge), for married ladies it is an oval. But this rule is not the same everywhere. For instance: Princess Anne's coat of arms shows a lozenge though she is married. And you never design your (new) coat of arms: either your family has one, or not. Coat of arms are indeed registered in a country's organisation. Non-registered ones are fake.
when my grandma died she left behind my grandfather's crest motto (je suis prest) and a shield pendant for the Fraser of Lovat clan. I am unsure if I am actually entitled to use the coat of arms, or how much I am entitled to use? Just the crest? The shield? Or is everything permissible save for the 'full' coat of arms with the support animals?
@bruh Magic, I’d bet that my ancestor knew your ancestor. My U.S. ancestry goes back to Col. “Captain” Bridges Freeman. There is a B&B in Brewster, Massachusetts called the Captain Freeman Inn. I’d love to visit someday.
It is said that Charlemagne was very happy when he was crowned by Pope Leo III. I was also very happy after I was crowned. That is of course until I saw the dentist bill.
The best reason nobility wore their coats of arms was a desire not to get killed while fighting in a battle. " Don't hurt me......my families rich and will pay a ransome for my return."
On todays union jack flag, is the red X representing ( now) northern ireland in the union, its also known as the saint Patrick's cross ❌, but, its actually the Geraldine/ FitzGerald/Desmond family crest, a dynasty traceable back to 1066. The family motto was , " Crom Abu!" ( Onward to Crom castle). However, after the Desmond rebellions in Ireland, they were stripped of the title, though they were cousins of the Tudors ( Queen Elizabeth 1 reigned at the time). The entire dynasty history is fascinating.
There is modern evidence that the ancient coat of arms were used to differentiate armies. There was a complaint among Confederates that their initial flag was to similar to the flag of the republic and caused confusion in battle. And that is how we got the X shaped battle flag we all know and love. This instance illustrates that properly identifying the enemy is actually quote a big concern for a soldier and a general alike.
Since a lord commanded his own men in battle, his coat of arms effectively becomes a unit insignia. Soldiers know to rally to the right banner, the overall commander can identify his forces.
I'm sorry to inform you, but the helm position has a meaning too. The nobles have it looking at right (of the shileld, so we see it looking left); the bourgeoisy have it looking at shield left, and only royalties can have it looking in front. Also if it's the most beautiful one of them
I wish I could post a picture of mine. We had to change our last name from O'rian to Ryan to sound more American. Super interesting story how we got to the US. My ancestors were slaves. Packed onto a ship to be sold, my great great (etc) grandpa stole a revolver and killed the crew. The new crew sailed the ship to America. We still have that Pepperbox revolver. 😊
I know what my coat of arms looks like, but only the shield. It's Noonan which is from Ireland, but I'm unable to get info. How did you get your info about your family coat of arms?
i love heraldry, some of the coolest ones have a severed turks head or moors head impaled on a sword or spear, or held by a knight or with birds pecking the eyes out. i think most of the turks head ones are hungarian.
Also, the governing body would make sure nobody was getting uppity in their designs. Henry VIII (not that he needed much reason) had one of his cousins executed for putting the Plantagenet symbols into his COA. Even though he undoubtedly had much more Plantagenet blood, it was seen as a threat as he was claiming his royal descent.
Interesting. Some slight differences between what the UK does and how things were done in Austria (my family used to be the von Puchs until the Revolution).
In England COA are owned by individuals, not families. Individuals' COA might be based on another's relative's COA but it will be (or should be) 'differenced.' Such 'differences' are agreed/listed by the College of Arms. In Scotland the rules are even tighter, and the use of unofficial COA is, I believe, illegal. The use of so-called 'family' Arms is simple affectation, nothing more.
I once met a Scot who claimed his family was descended from royalty and were in line for the English throne. His proof was that his family's coat of arms had Lions with teeth and claws. According to him, only those family who were in line for the throne had Lions with teeth and claws on their coat of arms. No idea if this was true though.
Isn't the Scots symbol a Unicorn though as it was believed that Unicorns are the Arch enemies of Lions? Scots = Unicorn Welsh = Dragon English = Lion Irish = Clover Fun fact the Unicorn is a double mistranslation originally it ment Orox in Hebrew (Ancient Ox) then people thought it was a Rhino in Greek then people thought it was a horse with a horn
Is there a good resource about the types of crosses traditionally used in heraldry? My arms are going to include crosses, but I don't yet know if I want to really specify a certain type, other than just identifying the tincture.
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Do you know if there is a Spnaish organization that keeps track of heraldry I have been told y decend from a lord jurado from the house of jurado and want to know if it is true and if it is get the coat of arms
A good general overview of the basics of heraldry with few issues! Well done! I am curious though as you mentioned your own “family coat of arms”, may I ask how that achievement came to be as you sound American?(not a criticism but a general curiosity). Keep up the good work and if you ever need resources on heraldry let me know!
Very nice video. I use as my Google thumbnail the coat of arms of an ancestor. It's from the Portugal-Brazilian Empire - Duke of Caxias, patron of the Brazilian Army and I'm related to all of these 6 families.
I have a cavalier stamp which belong to a relative of the Liechtenstein royal family. The stamp, I am unable to trace its representation. The family also had a family crest (?) in their window made of stain glass. Was wondering if anyone knows where I might obtain more information on this.
So when I deployed we had these people come on board who where from the Coat of Arms College who started a company to look up people's families so I asked for mine to be looked. I gave them my name and they got back to me in about a month after looking. Turns out my Ancestors fought at the battle of Hastings earning honors and a minor Nobility and were Woodsman and Game Wardens before that. My family's Coat was a azure shield divided by the metal with two falcons on the azure. Closed Helmet and a hound atop it, and the words Virtue Semper Virte. So I wanted to do some more digging and turns out my family already knew this and had an old book with the same coat of arms on it.
Nice! ✊
Fckin shit thats awesome dude my family is actually the royal family of Dhaka bangladesh but here we are in india living normal lives due to the ones who still enjoy royalty lolz no hard feeling dude just telling u my story bcoz u shared yours
@@thebruhtruth8973 dang. Maybe its for the best.
@@knowhere9121 probably😁😁😁😁i love being optimistic
In the middle ages, servants would assume the name of their lord or, in some cases, the place they came from or the trade they practiced.
My own surname is an example of this: Wal-ton simply means that my ancestors came from a walled-town. The town would need defensive walls to protect it from attack, so, an inhabitant of a walled town would be (relatively) safe from attack.
So, few things:
Heralds were originally messengers from the king, but it was useful for them to know who they were talking to, so they got to know the various arms and then over time that became their main job. Or at least in England.
Also, the Collage of Arms in the video is for England (and Wales) only: Scotland (Lord Lyon King of Arms) and (Northern) Ireland (Norroy and Ulster King of Arms) have their own.
Hi. I'm from the Netherlands. In my country we distinguish two kinds of heraldry achievements. First that of nobility. With that comes the socalled Blue Book, a formal registry of every noble family and persons of rank within these families. Secondly we have "patriciaat". These are families of merit who gained the right to wear a coat of arms and everything that comes to it. They are registered in the socalled Red Book.
My family has gained the right to bear a heraldry achievement by... similarity in name with the family who originally bore this heraldry achievement! Go figure: our family name being the same as their's gave us that right (which came of in the 20th century no less). The coat of arms is a silver shield on the shield a red griffon facing to the right. Between it's upper paws it carries a pole, which is actually a socalled (crossbow)bolt. And that's our family name. There is also the top helmet and the blanket that waves around it. The original Bolts were professional mercenaries who's speciallity it was to set fire within fortified structures by means of firing fiery Bolts. Our family were just simple peasant folk who came up in the world by means of hard work and craftyness. But still, it's kinda cool to be bearer of a heraldry achievement that dates back to at least 1558!
I recently found out that I have lineage to the Monarchy. I submitted a petition to the College Coat of Arms Q4/2020 - w/ no response. I have LVM’s to f/u in the status of paper work - no response. Does anyone know of a better/different way to submit this paper to get registered w/ the Courts? Thxs.
Italy maintained a similar book, il libro d'oro - the Golden Book from 1922-1946. However it was far from complete. My family arms date back to the 1400s when the part of Italy we're from was the Duchy of Savoy, later the Kingdom of Sardinia. Arms & nobility granted from 1922 (ascension of fascism) to 1946 (abolishment of the monarchy) are illegal ex post facto. It took me twenty five years to find our arms, in a series of manuscripts maintained by a branch of the former royal family
"Identity theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!"
Hoi, ik woon ook in Nederland (echter ben ik engels) maar ik was er echt niet van bewust dat er coat of arms in Nederland waren, de meeste mensen die ik ken hebben echt geen flauw idee wat die van hun zijn
@@sonic1957 what the fuck are you going on about
Going to use this as a guide for my next Crusader Kings 3 campaign
This is a very helpful video! Something I think should be pointed out, however, is that the rule of tinctures isn't really a rule but rather a design suggestion that is often advised. Historically it was broken very often, and the insistence of it's importance is more modern. Some heraldic traditions still don't hold it as very important.
Thanks so much for the info!
the rule was followed for simple reasons: you can spot metal on colour easly from a wide distance. see modern traffic signs, they use the same method :)
Indeed, the rule of tincure is there to make people design arms that are easy to spot and recognize over distances since that would've been their main purpose, to be identifed in battles.
The rule has always been pretty much respected in England and Scotland - much less so elsewhere on the continent.
This video is of very good quality how do you have so few subs you deserve a lot more
Ha ur paid to do so
@@justhe1boss582 what?
Its youtubes crap algorithm. Your comment helps though
@@JuanCanuck hahaha youtube algorithm helped him a lot though... When i wrote the comment he had 20 subs and ~100 views or something like that. It might have been late, but it surely helped him
Jufuufid ir uogsihyd
After my father retired, he took a part time job at the College of Arms working as a researcher for Clarenceux King of Arms. He absolutely loved the work.
I had a heraldry phase a few years ago and this taught me some stuff I wasn’t aware of back then. The tips about spotting fraudulent achievements were especially helpful. There’s a weirdly obsessive yet misinformed fascination with heraldry where I’m from so if it comes up in conversation, I’ll send your video their way. Your channel is underrated, by the way!
Since the USA doesn't observe the law of arms, you'll often see people buying plaques and things with "their family crest" on it, when in fact it is the arms of some family of the same name but to which they have no right. There's even a shop in Walt Disney World where you can buy items with coats-of-arms on them that the sellers will tell you are "your" coat-of-arms. Very few Americans realize that coats-of-arms are granted to individuals, and are not always hereditary. And even when they are hereditary, sharing a name doesn't mean you are related, or that your relationship branched off after the arms were granted. Of course, since the USA doesn't observe the law of arms, anyone can display any arms they want here, but it really displays ignorance to do so.
In western europe, the CoA is granted to the individual, but in eastern europe, there are many CoA's that are granted to families. Eastern european heraldry is vastly different, and does not use many of the rules talked about in this video.
And that's why I spent 20+ years looking for the TRUE family arms. Which was pretty much the last thing I found. And confirmed.
@@baronedipiemonte3990 My family came to what is now the USA in 1609, and from what my research found we never had a coat of arms. So I came up with my own and had a British herald from the International Association of Amateur Heralds emblazon it, and an Australian heraldic artist from the same organization provided a nice rendering of that blazon. Since the USA doesn't honor the law of arms, I registered a copyright of it so no one else can legally use it. Because my grandfather was in the Army Air Corps and remained after it became the US Air Force, and because two uncles were also in the Air Force, as were my brother and I, I used themes from the Army Air Corps/Air Force roundel and the new Army beret flash, combined with the traditional element of a lion as the main charge and the crest.
Arms: Bleu-Celeste a Lion rampant guardant Argent armed and langued Gules a Bordure Azure charged with Thirteen Mullets pierced Gules.
(Normally the number of charges on a border would vary with the size of the rendering, but I specified 13 to represent the 13 original colonies.)
Mantling: Bleu-Celeste doubled Argent.
Crest: A Demi-Lion rampant Gules holding in its forepaws within a Circlet Argent a Mullet Argent pierced of the field.
@@seikibrian8641 And that sounds great ! "Looks" amazing (from the Blazon). I knew out family had one, and I was determined to find it. And after 26 years of digging here and there, I finally did. But I won't publically list the blazon as it's not in any publically available "data base", and I don't want it used by anyone other than REAL family (and not even some of them to be honest).
@@baronedipiemonte3990 "...I don't want it used by anyone other than REAL family (and not even some of them to be honest)."
LOL! Yeah, I hear you. We all have some of "those" types in our families.
Very few talk about heraldry on CZcams, sow I am always happy when someone do! Thankful that you did, and for the most part I really liked your video. The only thing that should have been clarified more, is that you are talking mostly about english heraldry traditions. Which for the most part is very different from the majority of Continental European heraldry. Even in the UK heraldry traditions varies between Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. Since English is the lingua franca nowadays, the confusion grows when people only reads English literature on heraldry. But hope you will make more, I for my part will happily check out the rest of your videos!
@@kj-my7se Heraldry is those whom are ready to defend their land as the defender's.
Fortification and Barracks ready to battle 💪.
I've been an amateur herald (and student of the art) for 27 years.. I could pick a few nits, but you are generally very accurate. Well done!
Very educational! Thank you for making the time to post this.
to be honest I actually started out as an eye-roller, but you are indeed hitting all the heraldic nails on the head. spread that rule of tincture, brother! subscribed
Thanks for the interesting lecture. I always was interested to know how these things were arranged and why.
Excellent. As a graphic designer - I have always been fascinated by these designs. Thanks for the education.
I do quite a lot with Ancestry and hate to leave a finished profile image blank. So, I look up the family COA / Crests / Symbols, etc. I've built up a descent library of images. I'm so glad I came across this video to explain a lot of the questions I had.
This explains the Gould arms very well, thank you. Side note, the motto translates to "Be It Not Unto Us", which I've further "translated" to "Not My Problem". ;)
Thank you so much for this video. It was extremely informative and greatly done. 10/10
The specifics often varied a lot by region as well. For example, in Poland, basically every family in a region shared a coat of arms they could all use-very practical when like half the population was considered “technically nobility” regardless of actual wealth or status-and basically all of said arms used the same red & white color scheme, making a Polish army displaying full heraldic arms more uniform than its neighbors. Meanwhile in a lot of German territories, they HAD an equivalent of the rule of tinctures, but sable/black was considered a “semi-metal” and useable on top of either metals or colors (more modern colors like bleu celeste are sometimes treated as semi-metals too), and they used two entirely different styles of helmet instead of the position of the visor to denote the noble/middle-class (burghur) divide. And the Catholic Church basically treated the specific violation of the rule of tinctures of putting or/gold/yellow & argent/silver/white together, a special trademark they could hand out in achievements of arms as a sign of Papal approval, hence the Papal States/Vatican City and Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem flags having yellow on white.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting. 👍
Great video! Succinct & interesting. Thank you!
Mantling is 'torn' if the bearer has seen battle... not just decorative.
Royal helmets face forward, not to the side.
The divisions and charges can also be used to denote standing within the family, eg first son, second son etc
Great video Sir, simple and true.
I agree. Although, you speak of "Britain" only, but it was an European tradition in every country. At least I know the same for most of Europe, not sure how far around.
And England and Scotland have separate and distinct Kings of arms. The Lord Lyon King of Arms
Most of them actually have a cool story behind it.
Like when the noblemans life was saved when his carriage was rolling down a road unstopably by a deer raming his antlers into the wheels.
The actual Coat of arms had a upper half of the deer rampant with the bottom half a wheel both in gold on a green field. It actually exists
This was hella informative and very cool. Love how you used so many individual illustrations to better illustrate your points (haha)
I'm surprised to find your informative videos with minimum views. I like the way you deliver informations. It's more clear than from other channels 🤭.
I already subscribe and turn on the notification bell for every video you'll upload. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow. Hihi
Just bought Heraldry Studio on Steam and just loved spending hours creating shields 😁👌
Thank you so much. Another Heraldic Achievement for my Family. I recognize my shield.
As a writer, I felt like this is important if you write about noble families. My characters are part of a noble family and it is based on a Cornish noble family (possibly the Edgecumbes).
Thank you! Really concise and informative!
Very well printed and timely for me, as I have discovered that some of my ancestors were the Webbs of Stratford upon Avon, not a noble family, but rather a long line of knights. Thank you for this!
Technically, “noble” does not mean having a hereditary title, but just someone slightly notable, like an Esquire or just a Gentleman, so any University graduate (i.e., B.A. or better) or commissioned officer would count.
Thus, any of your knightly ancestors were nobility.
@@davidweihe6052 well as I understand it, nobles have hereditary title… knights do not. Anyway I discovered later that the whole lineage was faulty 😂 none of those men were likely my ancestors and at least one of them probably did not exist! Fun story … and published long ago, but rubbish.
My family has a crest/coat of arms developed in the late 1800s lol. Going back 4 or 5 great grandfathers (J.P. Graves) leads to someone who was the key player in the development of the City if Spokane. He had it made to show his wealth. Kinda funny if you ask me
Fascinating
Awesome info. Thanks.
This sir, is a very good explanation video.
Amazing sir
Thank you ❤️
Brilliant Thankyou.
That coat of arms looks very familiar (5:55).... very informational video!
In Scotland, the use of unauthourised arms is illegal and liable to be punished.
Since the colors they could pull out of the clay varies from one locality to another there is no mystery why different Kingdoms used different colors as identifiers since local coloring agents were used to manufacture local clothing . Images would have been added later to show individual leaders/warriors . All pretty logical in its progression but interesting none the less in how it actually came about .
Good video. My only point of complaint is that there is no such thing as a "family coat of arms". Arms were granted to individuals, not families. Through inheritance it was possible for multiple people in the same family to bear the same coat of arms (or a similar one, but that's a different point), but not necessarily. It is not the case that people have the right to a coat of arms just because they are in the same family (or have the same surname), as the person granted it. It requires a male line of descent from the grantee, or the highest female line if there are no heirs male.
There were family Grants of Arms in the Holy Roman Empire.
@@davidweihe6052True, my reply was very Anglocentric but there’s nothing about the video specifically relating to England. Good point!
I don’t think my family ever created a heraldic achievement but my parents did create a banner a while ago. It was a bit cliché lol. It was a blue background (I don’t know why, but as it’s not any of their favourite colour, I guess it’s because of our French ancestry) with a rampant golden lion on it. Lol
that's the same as Sheldon Cooper's arms for the famous appartment.
Really cool!
Thank you for breaking down the meaning and history of The coat of arms.. Even today in the 21st century Professional association football club badges are a evolved version of that City or towns coat of arms..
A prime example being The city of Newcastle Upon- Tyne .. And the famous football club Newcastle United F.C.
FORTITER. TRIUMHANS, DEFENDIT..The most northernly English city that never surrendered or was overrun by the Scots.. Triumph by defence !!
Loved this video. Ty so much for the details! Questions: I come from 2 families that have 2 different Coats of Arms and Mottos. My husband also comes from a family that has one. Mine are Welsh and the other Scottish, but my husband is Spainaird. Since I am female, would that mean I no longer can use our family's CoA, and I must use my husbands now? Just out of curiosity. I don't expect it to actually mean anything to anyone else since we are American, and it's 2023. I just want to know how that would be handled, historically. I'm a MacDonald, but since that was 2 generations ago, can I still have the bragging rights? Can I Pokemon it and collect/use them all? Ty in advance.
This is excellent, thanks
Thank you for the video
Herald originally was a term for a messenger. Heraldry, the word, probably came from the idea that the herald would display his master's flag, upon which was his sigil. Since he had to display the sigil, it became associated with the herald. The herald had to display from whom he came to ensure he made it to the person to whom he spoke. It was the highest form of diplomatic faux pas to kill the herald.
Love how you said, "go forth" at the end.
It's very interesting this explanation
ITS VERY HELPFUL VIDEO AND I LIKED IT KEEP UP
One of the earliest periods of the use of a coat of arms was in the year 1030, when on the 29th of Juli of that same year at the Battle of Stiklestadr in Norway, Konungr Olaf Haraldsson of Norway fought against the army of King Kanutr the Great of England and Danmark.....ordered his army to paint their sheilds all white with a gold cross, inorder to identify each other in the battle.
Thanks a lot, so interesting
I can see why there was a college built to keep track of this mountain of do's and don'ts.
@420rgb2 2 you need permission still to create new arms in england by the Earl Marshal aka Duke of Norfolk. ;)
permission is of course easier and immediately if his boss decided the matter; Elizabeth the Eternal issuing a lettern patent is superior :D
I recently found out that I have lineage to the Monarchy. I submitted a petition to the College Coat of Arms Q4/2020 - w/ no response. I have LVM’s to f/u in the status of paper work - no response. Does anyone know of a better/different way to submit this paper to get registered w/ the Courts? Thxs.
@@ecaldwell9 Assuming you are in England/Wales ... no. Use of a coat of arms without proper authority is a violation of the law, as well as being tacky.
If you feel it has been a long time with no action, give them a call. It's their JOB. Be courteous and patient, and be aware that there are both rules, and feed, involved.
As for being "connected to royalty", or anyone else, you will need to be able to prove it. Marriage licenses, birth registrations, etc.
@@bradmiller2329 ...dismissal notice of a pregnant scullery maid...
@@RichWoods23 Very likely *not* going to help your case. They will probably argue that she is lying about the paternity of her baby. Unless there is some other actual *proof* -- DNA maybe? Birthmark (a trope, but it might help), correspondence, something like that -- the odds are very, very slim.
Learned a few things!!!
I was pleasantly surprised to see when you used your own family's coat of arms to explain blazon that it was the same as my family's. I can't help but wonder if we share common ancestry.
I was surprised to see it too! All three of us may share a common ancestry! Lol!
Wonder what acorns on top of the helmet might stand for? My family "heraldry achievement" (terminology according to this video) was used for three consecutive generations(!) of mayors in a German town beginning in the 16th century, and I expect heraldry was very strictly regulated at the time. Also I've always wondered why there is a helmet on top of the shield/coat of arms, since none in the family were military men.
The actual coat of arms is kind of cute, because it actually describes my family name, it's a pictogram! It depicts a mideval farmer holding up a sickle - what was used for harvesting things like grass - and my name is Grassman! A really good descriptive farmers name. Wonder how old the name is, since the clothing of the farmer in the preserved seals I think is a much older, mideval style, like 12-14th century, but oldest recording of my family is 1590, when they became mayors. (So preserved in the city archives.)
"The Oswalt family crest should just be a pair of eyes rolling off to the side, a bag of Cheetos, and then the F word. That would be our shield that you'd see retreating from the great battles of history. "F this - bows and arrows? Nobody told me anything about bows and arrows, goodbye."" - Patton Oswalt
At min 1:08, this is castle Eltz in Germany
We have a lam (sheep) with the papel keys on out arms and the two headed Eagle but you only see 1 head because of the vertical division on the coat
My family has one of whatever ya want to call it. Von Nida. Found mine it is light yellow and deep grey idk if that is right
Actually i have left only a pair of coat complete with customised stich cut for both arm to perfectly fit into ⭐
The main reason I got into SOIAF was because of the details of their Heraldry haha. It’s something from history that I love to research and wish their was more info on medieval heraldry.
For the colour part i recall colours actually called email sing. and emaux plr. Or is it only in french ?
Also isn't green sinople ? Might only be in french too ^^'
Well done
On my family heraldry, it's from Messina, Sicily. The field is azure with three argent torches.
di Giacomo is my family name.
The symbol at the beginning I would call a sigil. The whole coat-of-arms, the Achievement.
One other thing: at least in the USArmy, all regiments will have such Heraldry. My regiment, the 12th Infantry, had the field Divided by crenallations(mssp?)to signify the taking of a fort, I believe, in the Spanish-American War. Also, the 12th manned Ft. McHenry during the bombardment that gave us The Star-Spangled Banner. I believe it was the taking of the fort in Cuba which is being Heralded, but my memory may be incorrect.
The Crest of the Sigil isn't a crest at all, but a Knighted Arm (don't know a better way to describe a limb in armor) seizing an Enemy Banner.
I believe all US military units have such Heraldic Sigils, Achievements. Probably every western military as well.
"Mantling" is shown wrong at 7:48 in your video, (but right for instance at 5:55 and 7:35) as it looks as if the fabric comes out of the shield. The mantling fabric (cloth) was draped over the helmet to prevent the helmet getting hot in the sun. As this fabric ended up being damaged and cut during battle (blows over the head), it is represented in strips coming down from the helmet. This mantling is represented in the 2 main colours used on the shield, one colour for the inside and the other for the outside of the fabric. The torse kept the fabric that was draped over the helmet in its place and is again shown in the two main colours of the shield. Therefore, a part of the mantling fabric should pop out from under the torse on the front side of the helmet.
Also; a pity that you don't show ladies' coats of arms: in the Netherlands we represent the coat of arms of a non-married lady with a "shield" in the form of a diamond (lozenge), for married ladies it is an oval. But this rule is not the same everywhere. For instance: Princess Anne's coat of arms shows a lozenge though she is married.
And you never design your (new) coat of arms: either your family has one, or not. Coat of arms are indeed registered in a country's organisation. Non-registered ones are fake.
Thanks this was helpful!
when my grandma died she left behind my grandfather's crest motto (je suis prest) and a shield pendant for the Fraser of Lovat clan.
I am unsure if I am actually entitled to use the coat of arms, or how much I am entitled to use? Just the crest? The shield? Or is everything permissible save for the 'full' coat of arms with the support animals?
I’m related to one of the original pilgrims, William Brewster, so upon looking him up I found our coat of arms!
wait you are black?
@@cinnamonstar808 Nope, just a white dude.
@bruh Magic, I’d bet that my ancestor knew your ancestor. My U.S. ancestry goes back to Col. “Captain” Bridges Freeman. There is a B&B in Brewster, Massachusetts called the Captain Freeman Inn. I’d love to visit someday.
No, you found HIS coat of arms. It is only “your” CoA if it is from the Holy Roman Empire or Kingdom of Poland, who had family coats of arms.
The video is correct... from british heraldry point of view. The whole topic is much more complex and interesting outside of british isles.
the native Europeans fell. and so the white Europeans just winged it like anything they take over and steal..
@@cinnamonstar808 Sure. Whatever drives you on ;)
It is said that Charlemagne was very happy when he was crowned by Pope Leo III. I was also very happy after I was crowned.
That is of course until I saw the dentist bill.
The best reason nobility wore their coats of arms was a desire not to get killed while fighting in a battle. " Don't hurt me......my families rich and will pay a ransome for my return."
On todays union jack flag, is the red X representing ( now) northern ireland in the union, its also known as the saint Patrick's cross ❌, but, its actually the Geraldine/ FitzGerald/Desmond family crest, a dynasty traceable back to 1066. The family motto was , " Crom Abu!" ( Onward to Crom castle). However, after the Desmond rebellions in Ireland, they were stripped of the title, though they were cousins of the Tudors ( Queen Elizabeth 1 reigned at the time). The entire dynasty history is fascinating.
So funny thing. I'm from Tennessee, and Tennessee orange is remarkably close to tenne. I wonder if that's how we got the orange color.
There is modern evidence that the ancient coat of arms were used to differentiate armies. There was a complaint among Confederates that their initial flag was to similar to the flag of the republic and caused confusion in battle. And that is how we got the X shaped battle flag we all know and love. This instance illustrates that properly identifying the enemy is actually quote a big concern for a soldier and a general alike.
Since a lord commanded his own men in battle, his coat of arms effectively becomes a unit insignia. Soldiers know to rally to the right banner, the overall commander can identify his forces.
For some reason this guy reminds me of Linus from Charlie Brown when he’s giving the speech about the meaning of Christmas and I love it 🙏🏻😂
I'm sorry to inform you, but the helm position has a meaning too. The nobles have it looking at right (of the shileld, so we see it looking left); the bourgeoisy have it looking at shield left, and only royalties can have it looking in front. Also if it's the most beautiful one of them
I wish I could post a picture of mine. We had to change our last name from O'rian to Ryan to sound more American. Super interesting story how we got to the US. My ancestors were slaves. Packed onto a ship to be sold, my great great (etc) grandpa stole a revolver and killed the crew. The new crew sailed the ship to America. We still have that Pepperbox revolver. 😊
I know what my coat of arms looks like, but only the shield. It's Noonan which is from Ireland, but I'm unable to get info. How did you get your info about your family coat of arms?
i love heraldry, some of the coolest ones have a severed turks head or moors head impaled on a sword or spear, or held by a knight or with birds pecking the eyes out. i think most of the turks head ones are hungarian.
I was surprised to see that you can actually reverse search families if you know the blazon.
Also, the governing body would make sure nobody was getting uppity in their designs. Henry VIII (not that he needed much reason) had one of his cousins executed for putting the Plantagenet symbols into his COA. Even though he undoubtedly had much more Plantagenet blood, it was seen as a threat as he was claiming his royal descent.
SO interesting!!! :)
Interesting. Some slight differences between what the UK does and how things were done in Austria (my family used to be the von Puchs until the Revolution).
In England COA are owned by individuals, not families. Individuals' COA might be based on another's relative's COA but it will be (or should be) 'differenced.' Such 'differences' are agreed/listed by the College of Arms. In Scotland the rules are even tighter, and the use of unofficial COA is, I believe, illegal.
The use of so-called 'family' Arms is simple affectation, nothing more.
I once met a Scot who claimed his family was descended from royalty and were in line for the English throne. His proof was that his family's coat of arms had Lions with teeth and claws. According to him, only those family who were in line for the throne had Lions with teeth and claws on their coat of arms. No idea if this was true though.
Isn't the Scots symbol a Unicorn though as it was believed that Unicorns are the Arch enemies of Lions?
Scots = Unicorn
Welsh = Dragon
English = Lion
Irish = Clover
Fun fact the Unicorn is a double mistranslation originally it ment Orox in Hebrew (Ancient Ox) then people thought it was a Rhino in Greek then people thought it was a horse with a horn
It definitely isn't true within British heraldry.
Is there a good resource about the types of crosses traditionally used in heraldry? My arms are going to include crosses, but I don't yet know if I want to really specify a certain type, other than just identifying the tincture.
For once in my life, the CZcams algorithm suggested something to me that I subscribed to.
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Thanks!!! I appreciated not only the theme but also the drawing presentation of the subject.😉🇵🇹
Do you know if there is a Spnaish organization that keeps track of heraldry I have been told y decend from a lord jurado from the house of jurado and want to know if it is true and if it is get the coat of arms
Supposedly mine has a very large stud horse in the right in the middle of it does that mean what I think it means?
Very informative video! Any recommendations on legit websites/companies to look up my family's heraldic achievement?
So shield coat of arms helmet thingy crest but what is the entire ensambled called then
A good general overview of the basics of heraldry with few issues! Well done! I am curious though as you mentioned your own “family coat of arms”, may I ask how that achievement came to be as you sound American?(not a criticism but a general curiosity). Keep up the good work and if you ever need resources on heraldry let me know!
I guess you never got your answer
Muy interesante
Would be so cool if we see this type of depth incorporated in Crusader Kings 3.
Very nice video. I use as my Google thumbnail the coat of arms of an ancestor. It's from the Portugal-Brazilian Empire - Duke of Caxias, patron of the Brazilian Army and I'm related to all of these 6 families.
Thank you for not saying nude. And calling it what it is more closer too. Most appreciated
I have a cavalier stamp which belong to a relative of the Liechtenstein royal family. The stamp, I am unable to trace its representation. The family also had a family crest (?) in their window made of stain glass. Was wondering if anyone knows where I might obtain more information on this.
That was great
Thank you