The Story of Achilles and Patroclus [Achilles and Patroclus Interaction] Hades 1.0 Gameplay

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  • čas přidán 5. 11. 2020
  • Amended the Hero's Sacrifice Pact through the House Contractor so that Achilles may Return to Elysium to visit Patroclus
    About the Game:
    Hades is a rogue-like dungeon crawler game from Supergiant Games, You play as Zagreus, immortal son of Hades, as he attempts to escape from the Underworld to reach Mount Olympus.
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Komentáře • 571

  • @orhankocak9279
    @orhankocak9279 Před 3 lety +3679

    This whole game is;
    Zagreus: bro just talk to them
    Everyone: nah you go tell them

    • @heistingcrusader_ad3223
      @heistingcrusader_ad3223 Před 3 lety +141

      Well they signed the contract which bounds them to the house of hades of course they can't just go to them

    • @impossiblyswag
      @impossiblyswag Před 3 lety +13

      bro im ur 1k like

    • @genericcriticism4915
      @genericcriticism4915 Před 2 lety +55

      Mothertrucker's mythology's biggest third wheel, aparently

    • @sath6089
      @sath6089 Před 2 lety +21

      if only everyone had a damn phone in the underworld

    • @wertfi908
      @wertfi908 Před 2 lety +21

      Hermes better watch out or he’ll be out of a job

  • @MrCharliebush
    @MrCharliebush Před 3 lety +4675

    Zagreus is just like: Hades may be my father but Achilles and Patroclus are my Dads

    • @bscorvin
      @bscorvin Před 3 lety +317

      *you are my dad vine plays*

    • @pancakemaxx4377
      @pancakemaxx4377 Před 3 lety +182

      @@bscorvin
      You are my daaad
      Your my dad boogie woogie woogie

    • @razagan1343
      @razagan1343 Před 3 lety +28

      @Zack Smith I mean, hercules was bi/pan a lot of the gods where similar it would not suprise me if the same is here

    • @dawnofmoon6967
      @dawnofmoon6967 Před 3 lety +21

      @Zack Smith Heracles/Hercules was in an assumed sexual relationship with his cousin, though I forgot his name. He just fought alongside Heracles against the Hydra.

    • @pollux_the_insufferable.
      @pollux_the_insufferable. Před 3 lety +8

      @@dawnofmoon6967 haphesteon i think

  • @sahrahmuller1451
    @sahrahmuller1451 Před 3 lety +4065

    When he said "my Achilles"... The tragic romance hit hard.

    • @peonieprincess
      @peonieprincess Před 3 lety +240

      NOTHING HITS HARDER THAN A RECLUSIVE AND CUT OFF CHARACTER SAYING “MY ....” WHEN TALKING ABOUT THEIR PAST LOVE 😭😭😭

    • @Ruuma11
      @Ruuma11 Před 2 lety +37

      11:28 as well as 13:40 :)

    • @arkfurydragonmane2358
      @arkfurydragonmane2358 Před 2 lety

      @@Ruuma11 😤🤗... 😭😭😭

    • @manholeeunuchsbane6197
      @manholeeunuchsbane6197 Před 2 lety +4

      He's in love with such a heel though.

  • @nocturnalexecutive3107
    @nocturnalexecutive3107 Před 3 lety +4120

    Zagreus is such a shipper.

    • @eldritchcupcakes3195
      @eldritchcupcakes3195 Před 3 lety +176

      (Spoilers for who hired Skelly)
      What about Charon? He literally hired Skelly to help you train so he can get his otp together

    • @agut.3263
      @agut.3263 Před 3 lety +169

      I laughed so hard when he said he wanted details

    • @DDDloki
      @DDDloki Před 3 lety +74

      @@eldritchcupcakes3195 if you notice... skelly has a *certain* coin in his mouth...

    • @eldritchcupcakes3195
      @eldritchcupcakes3195 Před 3 lety +27

      @@DDDloki wait-

    • @Shythalia
      @Shythalia Před 3 lety +86

      "Give me them details, girl. Spill the tea!"

  • @TheNetherlandDwarf
    @TheNetherlandDwarf Před 3 lety +3026

    I love how calm they made achillies. This isn't the sulky and angry warrior of the illiad, feels like a hero who's been there, done that, and is full of wisdom and sadness.

    • @belindaluna2067
      @belindaluna2067 Před 3 lety +349

      Makes sense considering how long he's probably been dead by this point. Gives one time to think, I'd imagine.

    • @cefrinaldi8060
      @cefrinaldi8060 Před 3 lety +220

      He sulk most of the illiad. And go berserk just because Patroclus is killed.
      Years in the underworld definitely calm him down and give himself alot of times to think.

    • @user-kt2oo6xj1g
      @user-kt2oo6xj1g Před 3 lety +129

      In illiad he was a hot head teenager and equally hot headed adult in war. Also fame and heroism got the best of him.
      Now it has been a couple centuries since his passing. He probably had lot to think about

    • @frances3749
      @frances3749 Před 3 lety +79

      This Achilles feels a bit like the Odyssey version, whose advise to Odysseus boils down to "don't die yet".

  • @GamzeenMakara
    @GamzeenMakara Před 3 lety +3175

    Zagreus really just want all the people he’s known all his life to just be happy in their afterlife. He’s like: “C’mon y’all, someone has to be in good spirits here!”

    • @xRaiofSunshine
      @xRaiofSunshine Před 3 lety +17

      .....ha. Hahahaha 😑

    • @violet5018
      @violet5018 Před 3 lety +26

      Ok now that's *gotta* be a pun now!

    • @GrindyVine
      @GrindyVine Před 2 lety +3

      Bruh..
      ps:you could say good shade since the naming for the souls are shade

  • @atticusv668
    @atticusv668 Před 3 lety +3675

    We need more male protagonists that are as refreshingly wholesome as Zagreus

    • @mimisezlol
      @mimisezlol Před 3 lety +149

      @Bashful Bitch especially in games about rather gloomy settings, like hades

    • @ZoeRR
      @ZoeRR Před 3 lety +83

      Who said I could only fight or ship I want both

    • @ayumi9851
      @ayumi9851 Před 3 lety +31

      If I’m being honest, I think most games avoid this because the writers are afraid that they might the character a mary sue,

    • @atticusv668
      @atticusv668 Před 3 lety +148

      @@ayumi9851 There’s a pretty good walk around with this: being a better writer and giving your characters struggles and flaws.

    • @lavandercharmander2307
      @lavandercharmander2307 Před 3 lety +13

      Like Kiryu Kazuma from the Yakuza Series?

  • @CJCroen1393
    @CJCroen1393 Před 3 lety +5236

    Pssst...the thing about their ashes is 100% accurate. Achilles really did request to have his and Patroclus' ashes intermixed.

    • @derekschacht7667
      @derekschacht7667 Před 3 lety +1100

      Damn they must’ve been like.... really good friends or something!

    • @Memelord-md5hs
      @Memelord-md5hs Před 3 lety +865

      @@derekschacht7667 oh my god! They were roommates!

    • @kylesmith564
      @kylesmith564 Před 3 lety +550

      Just dudes bein pals. pals bein absolute Guys.

    • @wt_9026
      @wt_9026 Před 3 lety +332

      Just dudes being bros

    • @arsonhycan
      @arsonhycan Před 3 lety +66

      ha GAE

  • @aletleth6167
    @aletleth6167 Před 3 lety +2404

    ZAGREUS WANTING DETAILS WHAT A CUTIE

  • @dummithicc1212
    @dummithicc1212 Před 3 lety +1818

    he calls him “Pat”🥺🥺🥺

  • @axelf9947
    @axelf9947 Před 3 lety +2492

    “Suppose I’d best be getting back to standing quietly about”
    _Guys, run. The NPCs are becoming self-aware_

    • @jacobtrowbridge7223
      @jacobtrowbridge7223 Před 2 lety +88

      That’s up there with Zagreus’ “I have an incurable addiction to buying expensive seating that I will never, ever sit upon.”

    • @mysincerestcondolences
      @mysincerestcondolences Před 2 lety +17

      *distant free guy noises*

  • @gabsy_ferreira
    @gabsy_ferreira Před 3 lety +2461

    Zagreus is the God of Marriage Counseling

    • @ashnalopeskapoor6020
      @ashnalopeskapoor6020 Před 3 lety +146

      Hera get out the way

    • @mimisezlol
      @mimisezlol Před 3 lety +153

      @@ashnalopeskapoor6020 I still don't get how she's the goddess of marriage when her own is constantly in shambles because her husband sucks.

    • @DD-wr1ji
      @DD-wr1ji Před 3 lety +98

      @@ashnalopeskapoor6020 Hera is shaking and crying rn since Zag takes the place lmaoo

    • @mimisezlol
      @mimisezlol Před 3 lety +43

      @@princesssunnyshine1757 emphasis on communication

    • @cefrinaldi8060
      @cefrinaldi8060 Před 3 lety +18

      @@mimisezlol Hera got his marriage in shamble cuz the Happy family aspect is Hestia's part.

  • @mezmereyesofficial7526
    @mezmereyesofficial7526 Před 3 lety +1178

    Achilles: "Thank you so much Zagreus for all your hel--"
    Zagreus: "ENOUGH ABOUT THAT, TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS !@%$^%@#"

  • @mimisezlol
    @mimisezlol Před 3 lety +5501

    Why is zagreus everyone's marriage counselor?

    • @larrycantdraw8995
      @larrycantdraw8995 Před 3 lety +504

      I mean someone's gotta do it

    • @thedevulherself
      @thedevulherself Před 3 lety +218

      Well, one of his domain is hunting (or more precisely, investigation), so ;)

    • @shinyblue4774
      @shinyblue4774 Před 3 lety +367

      The afterlife is full of Emotionally constipated fools
      Zag, born in all the madness, is constantly tired

    • @Gooberwares
      @Gooberwares Před 3 lety +182

      Now the toughest challenge hera and zues

    • @ivanivan744
      @ivanivan744 Před 3 lety +159

      Anonymous Invader No amount of divine counsel can fix that trainwreck of a marriage

  • @megabyte1302
    @megabyte1302 Před 3 lety +1315

    13:04 That hits extra hard because Achilles didn't even raise his voice that much, but seems afraid of actually losing his temper again and hurting Zagreus in a rage.

    • @athena3268
      @athena3268 Před 3 lety +146

      Achilles in the game is a lot like Achilles is in Homer's Odyssey, calm, morose and wise about life

    • @argella1300
      @argella1300 Před 3 lety +91

      @@athena3268 he’s like that in Madeline Miller’s Song of Achilles too (which takes the gay subtext of Patroclus and Achilles’s relationship in the Iliad and makes it text)

    • @athena3268
      @athena3268 Před 3 lety +22

      @@argella1300 not a huge fan of the book but I did like the writing and the romance

  • @alexc119
    @alexc119 Před 3 lety +3244

    What makes me the happiest is how well this ties in to Song of Achilles while still slotting in perfectly to the game and mythology

    • @alexc119
      @alexc119 Před 3 lety +400

      Also Patroclus standing up almost made me cry

    • @peepeeman7120
      @peepeeman7120 Před 3 lety +221

      LMFALDNDN pls I cried so hard with Song of Achilles and it made me so happy to know that Patroclus and Achilles are in Hades lolol

    • @SunniDoesStuff
      @SunniDoesStuff Před 3 lety +156

      I just finished the book and cried for half an hour, but knowing that they're together in the afterlife cheeres me up at least a little :')

    • @danmiaskiewicz653
      @danmiaskiewicz653 Před 3 lety +158

      are you kidding? it’s not “tying into the song of achilles” specifically... it is tying into the actual story, The Iliad. achilles and patroclus were very much in love in the source material, even ancient greek philosophers like plato and aeschylus knew that. the game isn’t trying to reference the song of achilles, it’s trying to reference the iliad... that book isn’t the only time they were portrayed as lovers

    • @Meimoons
      @Meimoons Před 3 lety +43

      @@danmiaskiewicz653 If you had read the Song of Achilles, you'd understand where the reference is coming from.

  • @shinyblue4774
    @shinyblue4774 Před 3 lety +1450

    Hades: If can't have a nice relationship THEN NONE OF YOU CAN'T
    Achilles: :C
    Orpheus: :'C
    Zagreus: DAD WHAT THE FUCK-

  • @KieranReed729
    @KieranReed729 Před 3 lety +399

    Zagreus really just woke up and said: "Your free trial of eternal despair has ended"

  • @ChloHB
    @ChloHB Před 3 lety +1712

    Orpheus singing this song while Zagreus and Achilles talk about Achilles's tragic past and lost lover ... it's all very fitting

  • @grayson5000
    @grayson5000 Před 3 lety +1225

    Welcome to couple counselling the game

    • @Roniisghost
      @Roniisghost Před 3 lety +9

      Accurate

    • @Roniisghost
      @Roniisghost Před 3 lety +14

      @Zack Smith they are in the game

    • @grayson5000
      @grayson5000 Před 3 lety +29

      @Zack Smith yeah they were, in both the game and the original story. Men being in relationships with other men was widely accepted in Ancient Greece. Even Apollo and Zeus the ladies men of Olympus had male lovers.

    • @_TSC_46
      @_TSC_46 Před 3 lety +42

      @Zack Smith yes two people so deeply inlove who mixed their ashes so that they could be together for eternity, definitely not Into each other

    • @legendarytat8278
      @legendarytat8278 Před 3 lety +15

      @Zack Smith Yeah they were “roommates”

  • @SnorriSnibble
    @SnorriSnibble Před 3 lety +873

    I'm studying archaeology and there's this one boy in my class who said Achilles and Patroclus were related (probably because he has seen "Troy") and I just sat there thinking "Oh sweet summer child..."

    • @cleeee-rl4yn
      @cleeee-rl4yn Před 3 lety +70

      Technically, they were. They are first removed cousins in some versions, however, being lovers with your cousin back in Ancient Greece was perfectly normal.

    • @kuro-kuromi32
      @kuro-kuromi32 Před 3 lety +89

      @@cleeee-rl4yn but then again, we have no concrete evidence of both of their lineages, seeing as the story is set in mychanean greece and had many spoken versions running concurrently before being written down.
      It’s possible that in many versions they were related in some way, and even back in greece this wouldn’t really pose a problem or be considered taboo, but I think OP was mainly talking about someone being unaware (or disapproving) of the largely acknowledged intimacy of Patroclus and Achilles, and speaking of them like they were related by blood in any way would be an easy way to handwave any textual evidence or argument to the contrary.
      It would also assert the speakers opinion of their relationship since it would be largely taboo (and possibly illegal) by today’s standards. Thanks, Troy 🥶🙄🥲

    • @araccoonwithalaptop8637
      @araccoonwithalaptop8637 Před 2 lety +24

      @@cleeee-rl4yn yet in the Iliad, they came from different places and As the game illustrates, different skin tones and game from basically opposite kingdoms, they had really no way of being related. As someone who has read the Iliad before and some adaptations, people changes the Iliad and it’s context because they had homophobic views, but many historians can confirm that Achilles and Patroclus were very close in friendship and as lovers because in Ancient Greece, no one really cared who you laid in bed with since the word homosexual did not exist back then and no one really cared much on who was with who.
      But as many people say, it would not be uncommon for ancients to mingle with their cousins or siblings, but in the context of the Iliad, that does not seem to be the case.
      Even in the Odyssey, Patroclus is seen standing next to Achilles when Odysseus went to visit the Underworld. So rather you interpret their relationship as love or friendship, the meaning of this story written by Homer was so show how cruel war can be and how love is a dangerous thing and grief can make someone do terrible things. That’s basically the whole lesson of the book as Homer writes it, then being cousins ruins the meaning of the book. Cousins can love each other in a family way, but the meaning of the book is to show how loving someone romantically can be a borderline between stability and insanity when it comes to war.
      I think why people portrayed them as cousins besides just homophobia was when in the final act of The Iliad, Patroclus wears Achilles armor to fight for him in battle so he would not have to break his promise and died in battle when the god Apollo intervened and threw off Patroclus’s helmet revealing his true identity and that’s when Hector stabbed him in the stomach and killed him. Reason being because how did people not know it wasint Achilles? Homer didint really think it through but again, that’s not the point of the book, it’s about the lesson being taught and the philosophy behind it.
      Edit: I don’t mean to like bash on you, you are totally right on the incest part, Ancient people were…. S t r a n g e

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Před 2 lety +5

      Damned Troy, turning Achilles into a pretty brute and Pat into his Dragonheart cousin

    • @izzypaige07
      @izzypaige07 Před rokem

      Troy was a good movie but so many people think they were really cousins because of it!

  • @vduck7354
    @vduck7354 Před 3 lety +639

    When Patroclus stood up, he's the mirror opposite of Achilles.
    Their designs are almost similar too, also Patroclus' wearing the "bracer of the myrmidons," whilst Achilles does not since he gave it to Zagreus.

  • @imthecoolestguyalive
    @imthecoolestguyalive Před 3 lety +1226

    Gee, these two seem like really close good friends!

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 Před 3 lety +12

      I tought that at first too.

    • @imthecoolestguyalive
      @imthecoolestguyalive Před 3 lety +156

      @@baohweeb6935 Some old interpretations make them relatives to justify Pat's and Les' close relationship. That's how much homosexuality is between them. People literally had no other explanation for them being so affectionate and caring towards each other.

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 Před 3 lety +4

      @@imthecoolestguyalive Makes sense.

    • @drakkiusgaming
      @drakkiusgaming Před 3 lety +128

      @@imthecoolestguyalive
      Like the good old Sailor Moon English dub making Uranus and Neptune cousins

    • @himboghost629
      @himboghost629 Před 3 lety +107

      r/AchillesAndHisPal

  • @snowleopardlady1560
    @snowleopardlady1560 Před 3 lety +663

    When Patroclus said "fear is for the weak", after Achilles said it to Zag earlier in the game, means that it was told to Achilles in life...so he took it with him in death...
    MY POOR HEARRRRRRT

    • @romiiarts
      @romiiarts Před 3 lety +26

      Reading patroclus codex entry written by Achilles is what had me crying each time I unlocked a new part of it. That's when the "fear is for the weak" clicked in since its told from the beginning of the game

  • @Alyssa-t
    @Alyssa-t Před 3 lety +898

    When the Patroclus said “my Achilles” my heart tightened. That is so cute!!!

  • @Rabbitsliver
    @Rabbitsliver Před 3 lety +797

    Hades grunting after Achilles gave the second gift to Zagreus. Lol.
    He has a long history of splitting pairs.

    • @Elmithian
      @Elmithian Před 3 lety +113

      He also has a very personal experience of having his love split from him so he likely knows both sides pretty intimately.

  • @donnamitsuki281
    @donnamitsuki281 Před 3 lety +367

    _nO TIME TO FIGHT I HAVE A COUPLE TO REUNITE BECAUSE HISTORIANS KEEP DOING THEM DIRTY_
    - me,as soon as I knew.

  • @wingcastlereads5657
    @wingcastlereads5657 Před 3 lety +305

    I love how everything in this game is about reuniting people: achilles and patrocles, orpheus and eurydice, nyx and chaos, hades and persephone.

  • @Borderose
    @Borderose Před 3 lety +566

    I like that they actually portrayed Patroclus as the manlier looking one of the pair. Because that's what he was. Achilles was younger and prettier. Patroclus was more rugged.

    • @kaylawoodbury2308
      @kaylawoodbury2308 Před 2 lety +164

      A lot of people forget that Achilles was described as beautiful and with some feminine qualities, focusing entirely on the "great warrior". Like dudes, you can kick butt AND be a spicy little bombshell 🙄

    • @Borderose
      @Borderose Před 2 lety +92

      @@kaylawoodbury2308 Indeed. I mean for Zeus' sake, he passed as a pretty little princess for most of his young life until Odysseus outed him. Odysseus had to use one of his tricks to figure him out from the crowd of girls because he couldn't do it through sight alone.
      Achilles was _that_ pretty. (Also, I think Patroclus hung around him at the time as a kind of bodyguard/companion? Either assigned by one of his parents? But I'm not sure if that's accurate now. All I can remember is that Pats was something of an older brother-figure for Achilles before he became his charioteer/tentmate.)

    • @mary-simone5347
      @mary-simone5347 Před 2 lety +71

      @@kaylawoodbury2308 Yes! It drives me insane when fan art portrays Patroclus as being small, slender, & gentle, and then Achilles as a big, tall, ultra-buff manly-man. Achilles is described as looking feminine and smaller than his counterparts on multiple accounts, and he even passed as a servant girl in a castle for months when his goddess mother tried to hide him from being seeked out for the war too soon. He's only 16 when he goes to war, and obviously he gained muscle as time and training went on, but he's always described as being beautiful.

    • @mary-simone5347
      @mary-simone5347 Před 2 lety +14

      @@Borderose Yes! It is often unknown by readers that Achilles was in hiding as a servant girl/princess companion for months because his mother Thetis was trying to protect him from going to the war too soon (i believe?). You're right! He wouldn't have passed if he wasn't small and pretty.
      Also, I've always pictured Achilles and Patroclus as being the same age. They met after Patroclus was exiled to Achilles' father's castle for accidentally killing another boy. Achilles picked him out from the other boys living there to be his companion for training for war. Achilles was brought to Scyros to be hidden as a servant girl (he actually was forced to mate with the princess Deidamea while there) some years later. It says in the book "The Song of Achilles ", that Patroclus went after him and found him on Scyros and was allowed to live in the castle, as long as he kept his mouth shut about Achilles not actually being a girl - but i don't know if that's accurate to actual mythology or if the author of TSOA just put that in there for her own interpretation.

    • @Borderose
      @Borderose Před 2 lety +45

      @@mary-simone5347 I love it, but I believe that's artistic license on the part of the TSoA author. ^^ Patroclus was older, not by much, but definitely older than Achilles. When they entered the war he was probably the right age to be in it, while Achilles, canonically the youngest hero at the start of the war, couldn't be older than 15 or 16. Patroclus in art depicting him from less modern sources is seen as bearded and more rugged than the beardless, handsome Achilles tending his wounds. I like to think that while his higher social status and his martial prowess gave Achilles a position above his charioteer, in private Achilles was "the beloved" rather than "the lover" in the pairing. The one protected and cherished by the senior partner.
      Achilles' manliness has been a debate since Ancient Greece. Apparently, too many people found it odd that the wrathful storm of steel and despair in golden armor was "the beloved" in a male-male heroes relationship and that the role should belong to Patroclus, the lesser warrior. But, as I did, a lot of people, too, pointed out that imagining Achilles that way violates more social conventions. He was also known to be younger, beardless, and beautiful. Patroclus, who looks like everyone's idea of a manly man, would be put into an embarassibg situation if that was the case. Instead, the relationship raised no eyebrows. Achilles' infamous rage and temper was just as much a sign of his immaturity as much as it is a roar of his warrior spirit. They were also not "gay" as modern people imagine them--theirs was a relationship very special for their setting and context. It ws seen as manly and proper. Achilles and Patroclus had female lovers and companions--Achilles fathered Neoptolemus on one of his old gal pals back in hiding. But they saw no conflict with that and also holding each other preciously--as both bedmate and brother-in-arms. And no one around then thought them less manly or heroic for any of it until people, centuries after their tale was written, debated because they found it weird the stronger warrior was probably "the bottom". Lol

  • @dyannatodd2270
    @dyannatodd2270 Před 2 lety +116

    Patroclus: screw achilles, i don't wanna talk to him
    Zagreus, immediately: HEY ACHILLES GUESS WHAT

  • @luciedeblieux9583
    @luciedeblieux9583 Před 3 lety +335

    i just noticed that Patroclus has a bandage on his arm! i think that is a reference to the painting of Achilles bandaging up Patroclus’ wounds

  • @invent2362
    @invent2362 Před 3 lety +847

    Achilles boutta “Risk it all”

  • @veevwjw123
    @veevwjw123 Před 3 lety +360

    Making up, and MAKING OUT-

  • @nocturnalexecutive3107
    @nocturnalexecutive3107 Před 3 lety +198

    Aphrodite: "Move, Eros, I have a new favourite."

  • @caramellpanda
    @caramellpanda Před 3 lety +408

    Just wanted to point out something as an artist! Achilles and Patroclus share the exact same art excluding their faces! This also means they share the same outfit! They’re basically mirror images of each other! This is both incredibly efficient in terms of making art but also symbolises how close they were! Thought this might intrigue some people, so I decided to share! :)

    • @sockpuppetqueen
      @sockpuppetqueen Před 3 lety +85

      Also Patroclus died wearing Achilles' armor, because he was pretending to be him, to like, lead the army, because Achilles wouldn't. They're probably wearing the same armor because that's what they both died in.

    • @behindthemirror2215
      @behindthemirror2215 Před 2 lety +5

      I just look and they almost shared the same lances. Which is quite adorable

    • @drnecro1086
      @drnecro1086 Před 2 lety +23

      "he is half of my soul, as the poets say"

    • @mentinementine310
      @mentinementine310 Před rokem +2

      @@drnecro1086 HOW DARE YOU 😭😭😭😭 MY HEART

  • @ashopal5811
    @ashopal5811 Před 3 lety +270

    I got the conversation at 3:35 before meeting Pat, so the dialogue I got with Achilles afterwards had Zagreus tell him that he saw, "your Patroclus" to which Achilles asked to send, "my regards. And... all my love. I think of him always" Like. god, Supergiant are you trying to kill me??

  • @akkantiaviator6507
    @akkantiaviator6507 Před 3 lety +394

    Achilles really risked it all for that bussy what a king

    • @araw_buwan
      @araw_buwan Před 2 lety +47

      STOPPP WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega Před 2 lety +27

      Honey, Patroclus is a _man!_
      That’s straight up *_MUSSY_* that he’s after!

    • @theseerllama
      @theseerllama Před 2 lety

      sHUT THE FUCK UUUUUP DUDJNSKJZNXNXB

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito Před rokem +9

      Achilles was most likely the bottom. If you take account of his age and looks, both here and in mythic lore.

  • @Overlordough1201
    @Overlordough1201 Před 3 lety +208

    "But I've some memories I'm..."
    **flashbacks to when he was getting railed by Achilles for the first time**
    "...not quite ready to give up on, yet."

  • @mimemmo1988
    @mimemmo1988 Před 3 lety +156

    Since it's not in the video I just want y'all to know: If you talk to Patroclus after reuniting them he'll say something along the lines of "He makes me feel alive again." Supergiant did not have to go that hard but they did it for us.

  • @Kodiak_P
    @Kodiak_P Před rokem +43

    An interesting detail: Achilles and Patroclus are transparent when they are apart, but whole when together.

  • @schlagie
    @schlagie Před 3 lety +278

    This hits different if you've read Song of Achilles

    • @Egg-zactly
      @Egg-zactly Před 3 lety +33

      I read the song of Achilles while trying to reconnect these two. It took me like a week cuz patroclus' encounters are really rare and most of the time, his dialogue have nothing to do with their mission.
      I was frustrated so I read the book and then I felt even more motivated to help them
      Antos is my favorite companion now

  • @panickedpan875
    @panickedpan875 Před 3 lety +980

    The OG gays. Lovely

  • @somewhereperhaps
    @somewhereperhaps Před 3 lety +464

    Gay rights. Thank you.

    • @lexetordo8954
      @lexetordo8954 Před 3 lety

      They are cousins.

    • @richardshiflett5181
      @richardshiflett5181 Před 3 lety +35

      And lovers.
      The Greeks welcome many types of love.
      The Christianity came and homophobic thoughts took hold

    • @steampunksloth0059
      @steampunksloth0059 Před 3 lety +47

      @@lexetordo8954 Sorry dude but that Troy movie from 2003 made that up

    • @lexetordo8954
      @lexetordo8954 Před 3 lety +1

      @@steampunksloth0059 I dont think so and a lot of sources agree with me, men in the past werent as insecure about loving their family as men recently.

    • @kushastea3961
      @kushastea3961 Před 3 lety +13

      @@lexetordo8954 or it was perfectly normal to have sex with your cousins. I mean, inbreeding is still happening now.

  • @koikofi4911
    @koikofi4911 Před 3 lety +147

    20:12 so there's one specific painting of Achilles and Patroclus, where you see a young Achilles wrapping the wound on Patroclus' arm. And the fact that the said bandage is integrated in Patroclus' design is amazing!

  • @whatgsaid
    @whatgsaid Před 3 lety +75

    “Then we just… were.”
    This is just about the softest thing somebody could possibly say and I… *feelings wrecked*

  • @thedevulherself
    @thedevulherself Před 3 lety +1041

    Achilles: Thank you lad, for all your troubles, Pat and I can now see each other again. We're both very gratefu--
    Zagreus (eyes sparkling): Achilles, sir, please GIMME DETAILS OF YOU TWO BANGIN' 😂😍😳

  • @zacharyhawley1693
    @zacharyhawley1693 Před 3 lety +165

    Zag is all like no.no.no. miserable afterlives aren't allowed here.

  • @hostile_prof
    @hostile_prof Před 2 lety +72

    It's clever that Patroclus and Achilles are wearing the same clothes, considering Patroclus died wearing Achilles armor and pretending to be him to rally the troop when Achilles refused to fight for Agamemnon

  • @boneboy4788
    @boneboy4788 Před 3 lety +198

    This game is entirely Zagreus doing couples counselling

  • @kienisgaming
    @kienisgaming Před 2 lety +52

    I love how they have small arguments now and then when Zagreus visit Elysium, like an old married couple and you can hear Pat saying:"Fine, have it your way". Just lovely

  • @Dumbass.bisexual
    @Dumbass.bisexual Před 3 lety +122

    Every time he says “my Achilles” I felt my heart melt and break

  • @carodame9419
    @carodame9419 Před 3 lety +256

    Wow i wish i had a BEST friend like that

  • @sharksuperiority9736
    @sharksuperiority9736 Před 3 lety +83

    I love Zag, he’s just a good stupid boy. He’s too kind
    He will fix your relationship, don’t resist

  • @theseerllama
    @theseerllama Před 2 lety +43

    I love how one of the ghosts keeps coming over, standing between Zag and Achilles, and just going '😁'

  • @tabitha2397
    @tabitha2397 Před 3 lety +87

    Oml their standing portraits are mirrors of each other AAAAAAAAAA

    • @eyewai
      @eyewai Před 3 lety +6

      **ugly fucking crying**

  • @NeonColoredRain
    @NeonColoredRain Před 3 lety +59

    21:29 "Then we just... Were." Made me cry so hard.

  • @ac-jj1zz
    @ac-jj1zz Před 3 lety +60

    their voices are so pleasant to hear

  • @corvusalbus7276
    @corvusalbus7276 Před 3 lety +85

    Zagreus: God of marriage/family counseling

  • @danielleafidchao6591
    @danielleafidchao6591 Před rokem +6

    "Go to him, sir. You've waited long enough."
    vs
    "Go, he waits for you"

  • @nicolellamas2197
    @nicolellamas2197 Před 3 lety +82

    so, TSOA readers, how are we doing?

    • @Lunairium
      @Lunairium Před 3 lety +14

      I just found out about this and immediately came to CZcams. It brought me some comfort.

    • @plantparent6469
      @plantparent6469 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Lunairium same this brings me so much comfort 😭❤

  • @annef0x
    @annef0x Před 3 lety +148

    _Ahh yes, Zagreus, Everyone's favourite marriage counselor and the no#1 Patrochilles shipper_

  • @corxiiifelinike2643
    @corxiiifelinike2643 Před 3 lety +70

    “And they were roommates.”

    • @boba4bobaman294
      @boba4bobaman294 Před 2 lety +5

      "Oh my god, they were roommates..."
      Well, tent/urn mates works too

    • @Random.I_I
      @Random.I_I Před dnem

      “So close they shared a bed”

  • @twinkiecupcups7228
    @twinkiecupcups7228 Před 3 lety +21

    Zagreous: what happened?
    Achilles: were intertwined as the shades do
    Zagreous: so you fucked
    Achilles: Ye we fucked

  • @potmki6601
    @potmki6601 Před 3 lety +75

    In the words of wiseman, "If you love somebody, BE with them"

  • @cringename2616
    @cringename2616 Před 3 lety +140

    No one gonna mention how Achilles calls Patrocluc Pat

  • @slutforpotetoes2993
    @slutforpotetoes2993 Před 3 lety +64

    This was randomly in my recommend and I'm so in love with this.
    As someone that loves to over analyze stuff they way that they refer to one another is so sweet. One line that had me gushing is when Achilles was describing "where my heart once was". Hes describing Patroclus as his HEART.
    And the subtle times when they refer to each other as "my Achilles and my Patroclus". It shows that even though they haven't seen each other in gods know how long they still belong to one another. Most media make the love of two people annoyingly blunt and blank. They make it boringly obvious even from the beginning and it doesn't give you any flavor nor excitement. They don't go into the subtleties that real people actually show when they care for someone. Their love feels so real and so genuine. AND IT ALL HAPPENED IN 23MIN. PLEASE CAN SOMEONE WRITE ME A ROMANCE ON THEM WITH THIS ADORABLE ENDING. OR CAN YOU POINT ME IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION IN WHICH I CAN READ IT.

    • @lakshmirekha9168
      @lakshmirekha9168 Před 3 lety +15

      Read The Song of Achilles by Madeleine Miller! It is a romance story of Achilles and Patroclus and it's also a very famous award winning book! It's extremely heart breaking but also one of the most beautiful stories I've ever read. You should definitely read it!

  • @Shythalia
    @Shythalia Před 3 lety +193

    15:20 Orpheus is singing!

    • @marcuz-x5448
      @marcuz-x5448  Před 3 lety +55

      That's because he got finally reunited with Eurydice 😁

    • @kishacarlos3472
      @kishacarlos3472 Před 3 lety +2

      Do you know the name of the song? its beautiful.

    • @marcuz-x5448
      @marcuz-x5448  Před 3 lety +3

      @@kishacarlos3472 The title is Good Riddance😁

    • @kishacarlos3472
      @kishacarlos3472 Před 3 lety +2

      @@marcuz-x5448 thank you so much!

  • @user-uv7kf3dj6g
    @user-uv7kf3dj6g Před 3 lety +42

    Its actually heart warming to see Achilles and Patroclus be together

  • @loreadem1509
    @loreadem1509 Před 3 lety +66

    Watching this just after finishing the Song of Achilles hits different

  • @alliu6562
    @alliu6562 Před 3 lety +38

    THE WAY THEIR POSES MIRROR EACH OTHERS’ AT THE END 🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭

  • @Melissa-tw2gp
    @Melissa-tw2gp Před 3 lety +39

    I got them together as fast as I could. It’s basically all I cared about once I found this mission. Love those sad dudes.

  • @emeros8631
    @emeros8631 Před 3 lety +524

    That accent... Those accents... Makes me wanna act up

    • @sheedokdeedok
      @sheedokdeedok Před 3 lety +81

      patroclus did say to risk it all 👀👀👀

  • @LL-xv6jc
    @LL-xv6jc Před 3 lety +71

    This is my first glimpse at this game and WHOA the writing is so good??????

  • @samsy426
    @samsy426 Před 3 lety +137

    PATROCHILLES IM SO HAPPY FOR THEM ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @LvLupXD
    @LvLupXD Před 3 lety +41

    There's something really fitting having Good Riddance play once Achilles works up the resolve to request Zagreus to amend his contract

  • @VariaSweetGuardian
    @VariaSweetGuardian Před 3 lety +58

    Everytime I see more content for this game, I want to do nothing else but play this game. It's been a long time since a game has had me this hooked! From it's Story to it's Combat, HADES is truly a outstanding game!

  • @vanillathebard
    @vanillathebard Před 3 lety +89

    Zagreus ships it. Thanks for posting this btw.

  • @lunatikbad9462
    @lunatikbad9462 Před 3 lety +181

    THANKS
    I am crying

  • @nekonao9471
    @nekonao9471 Před 2 lety +40

    I wish they told the whole story for the people who don't know... so if you're curious, I'm going to sum up their story really REALLY shortly
    At the 9th year of the Trojan war, Achilles refuses to fight because he is a proud man and Agaememnon doesn't recognize him as the powerful warrior he is. So he just protests the war, but he is the strongest warrior in the whole war so Trojans gets ahead of them by the time Achilles isn't fighting.
    Patroclus, on the other hand, just wants everything to be done and go back, so he just wears Achilles' armour and clothes, acts like him, fights like him to cheer and encourage their soldiers. Everyone thinks he is Achilles and naturally attacks him. He fights bravely, but greatest Troja warrior, Hektor kills him.
    You might ask, why isn't Hektor dead yet, concidering Achilles is stronger than him and probably would have killed him in the battle way earlier. That's because of the prophecy Achilles' mother told him of. She says, 'you will die if you kill Hektor (or Hektor dies in any way, I really can't remember)' so Achilles always stays away from Hektor.
    They bring Patroclus' body back to Achilles, who expects him to come back safely, but instead he just finds his lover's corpse, lying on the hands of strangers, covered in blood. So he naturally goes mad on the point, ever so proud man with a lot of dignity cries and screams in front of everybody, he literally pulls his hair off. He cries for days, calls him "the other part of my soul" and doesn't eat, drink for days.
    Later, he goes back to war and fights a literal god, then kills Hektor. He displays Hektor's head on his lance for everyone to see.
    Then he loses his will to live after revenging his lover and after telling his last request which is to be buried with the ashes of Patroclus, he dies in the war. He dies to the biggest coward in the whole war.
    So this is their story from the original Illiad, not from tsoa or somewhere else, this is the real thing. Hopefully it's good enpough:)

    • @andreabanuelosavila2317
      @andreabanuelosavila2317 Před rokem

      So…did he allowed that arrow to pierce his heel? On purpose?

    • @nekonao9471
      @nekonao9471 Před rokem +4

      @@andreabanuelosavila2317 the arrow doesnt actually go to his heel, if i remember correctly Iliad doesnt even mention Achilles' death, so its hard to say. Some people say he took the arrow to his heel, some people say to heart, it really depends on the source i believe so to say he was waiting for his death would also be a different source and not iliad itself, therefore it might be wrong. It's just that Achilles tells everyone to bury his ashes with Patroclus, who lies in the Trojan's area instead of their own, so it's quite obvious Achilles knew he was gonna die before the war was over.

  • @NoirRaven
    @NoirRaven Před 3 lety +206

    22:45 I'm sorry but what was that sound Hades made at the end there??? 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @marcuz-x5448
      @marcuz-x5448  Před 3 lety +41

      hahah, I think its open for Interpretation.

    • @Tekiruru
      @Tekiruru Před 3 lety +17

      he got tired from all of his workload

    • @JudgeNicodemus
      @JudgeNicodemus Před 3 lety +20

      @@Tekiruru the work of helldad never ends

  • @godseymadrey7270
    @godseymadrey7270 Před 2 lety +12

    21:08 he really is just like “spill the tea sis ☕️”

  • @kaylenvee8150
    @kaylenvee8150 Před 2 lety +13

    Funnily enough, I've done the same thing Zagreus is doing, where he's basically playing telephone between two people who can't seem to communicate with each other, and it's kind of effective. If there's too much history between two people that they can't even stand in the same room together, then a third party's gotta be the buffer, the in between man. And Zagreus's feelings about them are mine EXACTLY. I can FEEL him just twiddling his thumbs and scratching his head like: "Oookay gotta figure out how to word THIS right...."

  • @fittingmask9974
    @fittingmask9974 Před 2 lety +12

    Zagreus: prince of the underworld and proffesional marriage counselor apperantly.

  • @dundervevo6842
    @dundervevo6842 Před 3 lety +23

    The best adaptation of The Iliad, no question

  • @Tothro
    @Tothro Před rokem +4

    "... pig headed braggart ordered me to do it." Definately Agamemnon. He's the RR of ancient Greece.

  • @Toffeehammer
    @Toffeehammer Před rokem +5

    Achilles: "It went well I guess. Sorry about him not calling you by name by the wa-"
    Zagreus: "Yeah yeah yeah, did you guys fuck or what?"

  • @hahabearseathoney
    @hahabearseathoney Před 3 lety +41

    how did it only just click in my head that Achilles is THE Achilles. “Achillean” literally comes from this dude

    • @drnecro1086
      @drnecro1086 Před 2 lety +10

      we're gay cus this one dude thousands of years ago had a bf named patroclus 😭

  • @raisezell
    @raisezell Před 3 lety +147

    You’re a blessing! You worked on this so quickly. Thank you so much

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl Před 2 lety +11

    Patrocles: "My Achilles"
    Me: *getting the tissues*

  • @dielb3865
    @dielb3865 Před 3 lety +28

    Just finished reading TSoA. This is the closure that I needed.

  • @bucca2
    @bucca2 Před 3 lety +61

    Just a couple of guys being dudes. 💕

  • @crimsonsongbird7219
    @crimsonsongbird7219 Před 3 lety +30

    Me a song of Achilles fan seeing this and crying.

  • @malmcgregor7786
    @malmcgregor7786 Před 2 lety +8

    8:35 when I reached this point in the game for some reason, I remember in the movie Troy the fight between Hector and Achilles and then the line that happened before the battle which was "You won't have eyes tonight. You won't have ear or a tongue. You will wonder the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is Hector, the fool who thought he killed Achilles"

  • @possibilityswan6869
    @possibilityswan6869 Před 3 lety +10

    The song of Achilles book though omg 😳.

  • @paradoxroxy915
    @paradoxroxy915 Před 2 lety +7

    He said my name... Then we simply were

  • @kevina4998
    @kevina4998 Před 3 lety +88

    I hope we can see Hector some day!

    • @endme623
      @endme623 Před 3 lety +49

      I hope the fuck not. He gon catch these hands if he shows up.

    • @ceve
      @ceve Před 3 lety +50

      @@endme623 What has Hector ever done to you?

    • @cmbuenaobra1490
      @cmbuenaobra1490 Před 3 lety +15

      @@ceve noooooooooooooo not this line

    • @araphrodisiac3693
      @araphrodisiac3693 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ceve nO

    • @lord_ozymandias
      @lord_ozymandias Před 3 lety +2

      i want to see him if only so i can beat him up. if they do him like sisyphus and try to make him a likeable character i’ll commit a war crime

  • @fallen-chances
    @fallen-chances Před 3 lety +24

    don't mind me SOBBING OVER HERE

  • @yona1478
    @yona1478 Před 3 lety +34

    10:58 That tsk sounds nice

  • @rocket313
    @rocket313 Před 3 lety +92

    I love you! Thank you so much! I was waiting for this for a long time, THANK YOU!!! 🤩

  • @insomniac1184
    @insomniac1184 Před 3 lety +19

    Zag ships. And he ships them hard.