Arrogant Flat Earther Tries To Lecture Me On Flat Earth
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Today we're going to return to Flatzoid, I mean Little Timmy's stream about me. In this part of the stream he decides that I need to be talked down to, which doesn't exactly convince me as I need something a little more solid than the explanations he is proposing.
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Globers use math , charts, experiments, and graphs to prove things. FLERFs USE PAINT DRAWINGS
"It's not very effective"
At least flerfs are usually fluent in crayon.
Flat earthers use Meth
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you listen to someone who is clearly a satanist?
@@daniellassander And after the drawing they have their snack ready to go.
One crayon in each nostril and eat the rest.
Planarwalk: Gives actual argument.
Flerfie-Tim: NUH-UH!
I like this YT clip ... Turning Torso (190m tall) - seen from 25km - 50km ... and if flatearther have problem, they can visit Denmark see for themself, they wont .
Funny how more of the bottom of that building in missing with more distance you get .
Planarwalk argues with a fireplace about the shape of water. Seems to expect or hope for a sensible answer. The return is not so ur reasoned? sensible.. ur
@@Lucien86Did your LLM give out there at the end or something? Like, you were set up to make a good point about how Planarwalk is wasting their time by trying to educate someone who is determined to remain ignorant, but then you just... didn't.
@@anthonyzeedyk406TBH I kind of just lost my thread. Not criticising Planarwalk - maybe more admiring them for being able to do it without blowing a mental gasket.
@@Lucien86 lol sorry to put you on blast like that, but thanks for clarifying.
Oh dear. Flatzoid only went to school one day, but teacher was ill and didn't show up.
i think if i was his teacher, i'd be ill
Or worse that the teacher was an Evangelical preacher..
he was homeschooled by his dads talking snake
@@charlieinwhite The talking snake was the only one in that story who didn't lie, so bad moral model for Flatzoid.
His teacher read the class list, saw flatzoids name on it and immediately retired to a small isolated island in the Pacific😂
This is painful to watch. The bottom gets smaller angular size... but somehow to top doesn't... even though it is all getting farther away?!?
I tried really really hard to twist my brain to understand what the actual fuck this guy was saying. I live near boats. My husband works on a boat. I am now finding myself needing to imagine sails that start to disappear from the bottom at the same time as the hull does over the horizon. And people's feet as well as they stand on the deck of a boat.
I often wonder how flat eathers account for being able to see further when you are up higher. Why would people from time immemorial risk the danger of climbing a tree to get a look (even an obstructed one) if there wasn't a substantial difference?
@@msdaphne They usually say something about "the angle of attack" gets bigger when you get higher up. But if it was just about angles, then rayleigh criteria wouldn't be the issue, and if it is about angular size, how does that make the bottom bigger, but not the top?
These people do some crazy mental gymnastics.
@PsychoMuffinSDM it's pretty impressively convoluted
C'mon maaaaaan.
We've all watched those rocket launches.
And at a certain altitude, we clearly see the bottom of the rockets disappear.
And globers will claim the bottom of the rockets fall of, haha. Yeah right
@@huepixis this sarcasm? might wanna mark it the next time if it is...
I always like flerfs that show a photo of boat and rant about pulling it back from over the horizon, when the actual horizon is clearly visible beyond the boat.
They never try doing it with a large partially hidden ship because they are dishonest and know it will not work.
I did that on purpose, from the top of a Welsh peak down to the boat club in the Menai Strait.
Also, by their "logic" by pointing a big enough telescope directly North at midnight you should be able to "bring the Sun back"! (Remember kids, don't look directly through it, use it to project the Sun's image, don't want to blind yourself!)
@@mattjackson9859you mean south?! 😊 I see the sun at midday in the north!
Anyway, I should be able to use that telescope and see New Zealand to the east as there is only water between us. For some reason I can’t though, funny that!
@@Tasboy2 You probably can't see the Himalaya either.
Jeez! He even says "ocean floor" while drawing the ocean's surface! 🙄
The ocean floor is the bottom of the ocean, Flatzoid, you great dollop! 🤣
I was hoping someone would pick up on that 😅
Very appropriate that during the "irritating falsetto" bit, he paused it on Planar looking ABSOLUTELY UNAMUSED AND COMPLETELY DONE WITH HIS BUFFOONERY. Same, girl.
“Water takes the shape of it’s container”
So it’ll conform to the shape of the atmoSPHERE that contains it all.
It is a very interesting thing, that phrase. Like, do they know why water does that? How does water know what the shape is that it needs to fit the container? Fundamentally, it actually has nothing to do with the container itself.
He said water goes flat. So the dome is a flat disk too😂
So the bubble inside a spirit level is a container? Or is water different?
I was thinking something similar, gravity is your 'container'.
It's funny how after seeing the bottom of a boat disappear, you can climb up on a rock and see it again.
Obviously being higher up gives you +1 vision, or something.
The same way water has an intrinsic Flatness attribute that means it *never* curves (except when it does, of course).
🙄😏
you can see boats from an airplane a lot further away than the horizon
@@neonwired4978 Technically you see to a farther horizon at increasing altitude. Nitpick, I know, but if I don't then flerfs will.
Which is exactly what would happen if the earth was flat you I diot
"If you get high enough, you are going to find yourself in a vacuum." I'm sure many an Emergency Department or Small Appliance Repair Centre can confirm that parts of many high people end up in vacuums...
Them getting gentlemen from that voice is the same as their understanding of perspective
He will never understand that if you replace the water surface lines in those container graphs with arcs from a circle with a radius of 6371 km, you wouldn't see a damn difference!
They don’t understand the size of the earth
Moralising about having a pink Teddy bear... Wait until he sees you have an open black mana! That's real evil. Tap swamp, dark ritual, dark banishing. Evil.
If there’s no surface to hit there’s no pressure 🤦♂️ That’s such a deep misunderstanding of pressure in that it assumes that there must be a physical surface. No where is that required
I often ask flerfs if the gas molecules cease to exist if their container is removed. I've never had one answer; they just run away. A surface is needed only to _measure_ the pressure.
My guess is that because we usually draw a container to explain pressure, he just assumes the container is needed for that pressure to exist.
That or as always he either forgets or dismisses gravity as something that can act upon a gas, but without saying it too much
@@nessa-parmentier He's just a grifter. He knows the earth is not flat, which is why he deleted the frames from Red's video. He's simply in this for the money and attention.
Could do a thought experiment: Let's say there is a space in vacuum. The space is infinite in size and there is nothing in it. Now we place a rather powerful magnet to this space. And around that magnet we put gas that is attracted to the magnet. Does that gas have a pressure? There is no container, so according to flat earth, the gas should ignore the magnet fully and not form the pressure. According the flat earth there also should not be pressure gradient on the gas.
My bet is that flat jointer would say that the gas gets sucked by the ...nothing into the nothing ignoring the magnet.
@@ShadowManceri They won't engage with thought experiments or hypotheticals. The majority of them know, deep down, that flat earth is rubbish, but they enjoy LARPing at being the smartest people in the world, so they refuse to do anything that might force them to face facts. If you ask them a question like that, they'll just say "That's not my claim and I don't have to provide evidence for your claim."
6:49 "a boat on the ocean floor." Listen to it three times and I giggled every time I don't know why I find that so funny
“According to physics” citation needed little Timmy
The source is his rectum
“Nuuuuhh-uuuuhhhh” That’s the only argument little Timmy had!!
That *all flat earthers* have😐
Timmy's picture of air molecules bouncing around missed out something vital : molecules also bounce off each other. A molecule going up and bouncing off another molecule is behaving just like a molecule bouncing off a surface above it. Oh, look. A container!
Little Timmy, why do cars also disappear bottom first? There are no waves on the road. But on a long enough road, cars disappear bottom first too.
"Whatever you say there, little Timmy". Chef's kiss.
Also notice that on Little Timmy's boat video, when he zooms in, the boat is quite obviously in front of the horizon.
And I seem to remember that Einstein was quite emphatic that you shouldn't read so much into his curved spacetime explanation that you refused to treat gravity as a force under any condition.
Little Timmy! Draws a boat with a huge hull, a small sail and a skinny mast, and then he claims the first thing that would disappear is the hull because of the Rayleigh criterion. 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Why can't someone standing in the top of Big Ben zoom in and see the Eifel Tower?
Or the himalaya... thats bigger!
@@jasmijnariel The Alps would probably be the best: they're more than half the hight of the Himalayas, and almost ten times closer to London.
Also, it would need to be the Shard, not Big Ben, as there's a ridge of hills just south of London that Big Ben's not tall enough to see over. But yeah, on a Flat Earth, it should be very easy to get a photo of the Alps from the top of the Shard.
Flatzoid is the textbook example of what Martymer81 always says at the end of his Flerf videos. "They're wrong. They KNOW they're wrong. And they WANT to be wrong."
Apropos of nothing: I just realized that the cat plushie is a reversible one! So cute!
I have a glow-in-the-dark octopus one, and have thought of getting a pumpkin/spider, but, well. I may be overbudget with several preorders. ...including a rainbow baphy plushie...
Sleeping Warrior: This is an egg …
Little Timmy: This is an orange …
"Water can't curve"
Didn't he just before literally drawing a water drop at the same time? And those are round or have I forgot/misunderstood something?
"AT REST" 😂😂
@@LydiaReikoNo one tell him what a meniscus is.
12:53 When Twitter flerfs show that camera trick where they start with a camera zoomed out to a wide angle, then they zoom in on a boat and say “See! We zoomed it back!” here’s what I do.
I always show them a video from Wades Underworld that does the same camera trick with the Moon. Zoom out and the Moon in the daytime sky disappears. Zoom in and it reappears.
Shuts them up and stops them showing that camera trick really quick.
Dazzathecameraman has a video where, using a P1000, he shows three similar ships. One is completely in view, one has part of the hull hidden, and the third one has the hull completely hidden.
He zooms in and there is absolutely no change in how much of the ships can be seen.
"Does More Zoom Cause Ships to Come Up Over Horizon? Flat Earth"
Timmy talks about objects in his explanation of Rayleigh criterion while showing a diffraction pattern
I laughed when Little Timmy complained that all globe earthers do is talk while the flat earthers are out conducting experiments and working on research. As if the globe earthers are all a bunch of youtubers with predisposed beliefs while the flat earthers are out exploring and learning about the world. Nevermind that every industry in the world that depends upon science to make money will use the globe earth model when needing to take into account the shape of the Earth. Also, regarding the idea that you can bring anything back that appears to disappear over the horizon if you use enough magnification, DO IT WITH THE FLIPPIN SUN OR MOON right after they set. This challenge has been out there forever, and yet flat earthers continue to ignore it. Little Timmy... are you out there? Could you PLEASE, PLEASE take up this challenge? Is there ANY flat earther who would like to take up this challenge or explain why it's invalid? Or will you just continue with your magic tricks where you disingenuously try to distract with misinformation and take advantage of false assumptions and get upset when anyone points out how your tricks work?
They’ll claim heavenly energies hid the sun from their cameras.
@@MarceldeJong No, they'll ignore the challenge completely and pretend it doesn't exist as not to draw attention to it.
I think flatearth debunkers should focus more on those kinds of arguments: how is it that thousands and thousands of people have jobs having to do with the shape of the Earth and no one becomes a flatearther, whereas every flatearther's trade has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth in a practical way: geographers, geologists, climatologists, meteorologists, ecologists, oceanographers, astronomers, navigators, biologists experts in long range migrations, experts in ballistics and experts in long range communications - surveyors and cartographers.
Also, flatearthers only have objections, but no better explanations for things we see with our eyes. This year there's a total solar eclipse, and it is a leap year. Is there any flatearther who can explain that in whatever model they have?
More lying by Zoidman.
...several CZcams Globers have executed, documented and explained experiments that they have done.
@@MariaMartinez-researcher But it's not unknown for flerfs to lie and claim that many pilots are flat earthers.
The irony with flat earth assertion that you need a container to hold a gas is that Earth DOES leak a small amount of atmosphere (mostly helium) into space. It’s just so small that it doesn’t particularly matter.
Something I've thought of for a while that I think would be interested to show a flerfer is a ferrofluid sticking to a ball magnet. It'd show that a liquid can stick to a ball and doesn't need a container
You would make a mess, literally and metaphorically :ø)
Ferrofluid sticks to everything, not sure about the message would stick inside a flerfers brain
But Trump said magnets don't work when they're wet.
Good lord, that would blow their mind. I was thinking about the physics of ice and sublimation, but ferrofluid is even funnier.
@@jwb932 Source please? I don't doubt your claim, the guy has the intellect of a half-boiled potato, I just wanna see that buffoonery myself...
That would go with their argument about electromagnetism causing g. Not that they understand either.
The resolution argument is a typical case of wanting to be able to eat your cake and have it too. Decreasing resolution would mean it would be harder and harder to distinguish where the water ends and the boat begins ( or even between sky and water for that matter). If the resolution is so low as to make the bottom half of the boat indistinguishable from the water, then you could not have a noticeably sharp line between water line and boat. They are trying to simultaneously claim that loss of resolution hides half the boat, but it doesn't effect the resolution of the line between water and boat. In other words invoke resolution when convenient, but ignore it when inconvenient, as if you are allowed to pick and choose when it applies.
Even with a flat Earth model, the gas molecule would come back to ground. Even according to a flat Earther, if you toss a ball into the air, it will travel upwards so high and then fall back down. An air molecule is no different, other than it starts off moving faster and would end up traveling higher before stopping and falling back. So even a flat Earth would not need a dome as a container, just high walls along the edges in order to "contain" the air.
The reason they have to go so basic is because if they go any further, their arguments get blown up. This is the whole flerf modus operanti : Only take an argument as far as it gives me an answer I like, and no further, because if I take it to it's full logical conclusion, it's likely to disprove my point.
More cake: "the sea doesn't move further away" - why not? If it's flat it shouldn't have an 'end', you would still be able to resolve it as well as the boat. Again, pretty much proves that "something else" is at play to force a fixed horizon distance.
Precisely, the utter lack of understanding as to what a resolution limit means is sad, we learned this at age 14.
Water always takes the shape of its container. On Earth the shape of the container is a spherical orb of gravitation
It's not that flat-earthers are wrong. It's that they're arrogantly and insistently wrong.
They are constantly setting things up so the conclusion they want is inevitable (a circular argument). e.g.: "The only way you can't have pressure is with a container. We have pressure. Therefore, there must be a container." The premise is wrong and, as you point out, a container doesn't explain the pressure gradient. In a container, the pressure should equalize throughout.
I'd have to say that the most intellectually frustrating aspect of dealing with flat-earthers is that every time they're confronted with a refutation of their claims, they repeat their claims. Apparently, they think that, if they repeat the same thing over again, it'll be convincing. It only convinces me that they don't have a real argument and don't understand it when someone explains how they're wrong.
Yeah there's something about flerf denial of reality combined with gigantic arrogance that makes them the most insufferable group on the planet. I hope not to be proven wrong...
i think i see some left over crayon wrapper stuck in Flatzoid's teeth from his breakfast
He did take the two out spare of his nostrils, just for the recording.
Was it a blue one? The blue ones are the nicest 😊😋
Looks like I missed a few too many videos.
I'm glad you felt comfortable enough to come out.
The Moon lander Odysseus landed on the Moon Thursday Feb 22 , 2024 at 23:23 GMT. Kind of screws up the whole flat earth dome nonsense
They have their "Nuh-hu"
@@freddan6flyflerfs also have: "oh please" and "yeah whatever"
"see gee eye"
Which moon are you referring to, the one inside the dome, the one outside of the dome or the one that is just a hologram?
Fake news.
If I draw things the way I want them to look, I get to be right!
~13:00 "Waves and bulges"? You mean curvy water? Surely not!
They also forget that ships still disappear beyond the horizon from an elevated view point too, which takes out waves completely as a factor as to why ships disappear, unless ships sail in 300ft waves daily..
Flat earthers think that gas pressure always has to be like dancing in a small room. Everyonw wants to move but is inherrently bouncing into each other, because the room is so small. But what if I score a goal, touch down, home run, or whatever and all my team mates jump on me and now I'm feeling squashed. That kind of pressure is the one we have on earth. There is no container, because it's in the open, yet i feel pressure from the stuff on top of me being pulled down by gravity
also to think about structures in space..... which is what all of us are everywhere and what everything right? small structures, big structures etc. i would make the claim that one could look athe atmospheres edge itself as the container the same way you would look at a solid glass ball's surface. there are atoms or particles that could penetrate the glass ball without harming it but there are all kinds of things that would bounce off it, just like our atmosphere. some things will ignite if trying to enter the atmosphere at certain speeds and other angles would make something "bounce" off into space. Its our human bias making us think of the atmosphere as nothing more than a gas for us to breathe
@@matthewfors114 Well no. The atmosphere is just gasses and nothing will bounce off the outer layer. If you reference the re-entry of Artemis 1 then you are kinda right, because it’s commonly referred to as bouncing off the atmosphere, but it’s still a controlled trajectory that uses lift to alter it’s course. So it’s the spacecraft that does the bouncing and just using the atmosphere the same a sea plane would use the water to land/slow down. Also objects entering at high speeds do not ignite. The gasses are compressed rapidly and a very high temperature plasma is formed. Not the whole thing just bursts into flames.
Also I doubt that any atom could enter a solid glass ball. Because it’s solid. If we talk about radiation or you view photons as particles then yes, particles can enter and leave a solid glass ball.
Water curves all the time... we call that a waterfall...
Water doesn't "curve". Water lies level - flat, you might say - as it passes through gravitationally curved space.
@@drlegendre If we're talking about a waterfall, there is likely to be some air entrainment and the formation of droplets of various sizes. I think droplets are curved.
Breaking news…….Flatzoid does a dumb…..end of bulletin…..
2:04 - at least I remember this reference: The wizard who could not remember his real name in "Quest for the Holy Grail" by Monty Python
15:06 - to measure atmospheric pressure, the air molecules need to hit the surface of the barometer; the barometer needs no walls next to itself
BTW, I am pretty sure that Flatzoid also did not understand what the bidirectional laser level survey Bob did at the lake actually shows. Whether on purpose or not.
When they were filming, they gave John Cleese a long name to pronounce, but he found it too hard to remember so he just said Tim. It ended up sounding brilliant to me. What a comedy masterpiece.
@@BlackGuardXIII are you the black knight?
@@matthewfors114I wish! A blackguard is a scoundrel, or foul mouth, or someone of low status.
@@BlackGuardXIII fun fact, being from stoughton, ma. my town is named for the judge in the salem witch trials and our team name was the black knights. our town colors were black and orange too, very Halloween new england town
@@BlackGuardXIII i think our mascot forced us all to be monty python fans lol
The container happens to be a SPHERE...
(made out of gravity)
@@Starhawke_Gaming nope, made out of Mass... kept together with gravity...
@@jasmijnariel - well, the container is a sphere make out of gravity, with a smaller sphere made out of mass in the middle.
@@Starhawke_Gaming gravity is a force, not a sphere...
Made BY gravity.... not made OUT OF gravity
@@jasmijnariel - if you want to get that nitpicky, gravity isn't actually a "force", it is a "force-like effect" of the bending of spacetime.
But the results are the same no matter how precise you want to get with the "well, actually...", gravity is pulling the gas particles back to the surface of the planet, resulting in a force-like effect that is effectively a container for all but the tiny amount of particles with enough energy to escape the gravity well.
Flatzoid is still confused why his parents refer to each other as brother and sister.
I thought his sister was his mother.
Yes, but is he his own grandpa? 🤔
Sunday evening, a nice cup of tea and Planarwalk shredding Flerfers. It won't get better.
The conflation of atmospheric pressure with gas pressure sure it a flerf favorite. No Little Timmy, it isn't measured by molecules hitting the Earth's surface like you think, but rather the force is a result of the collective mass of all particles in the air pushing down (or rather, being pulled inwards by gravity 😉) and also explains why it's a gradient.
Little Timmy has no clue what he is talking about, ever! 😂
Water in a bowl affixed to a rotating surface. It will curve upward at the sides, not as a bulge, but it still shows a force curving water.
As an artist, I find it hilarious how flat earthers don't understand perspective. The whole argument about the ocean remaining the same angular size is absolute bunk. Waves that are further away will appear smaller! They won't "hide" a boat, because they are scaling down with distance the same as the boat. A curved surface is the only explanation that makes sense.
now this is the average flat earther.. they have no argument only insults.. bad maths.. memes and useless facts or figures that have no basis in observable reality..
Swimming pools have a pressure thst varies with depth just like the atmosphere. They don't need a lid to keep the water in.
Well, "obviously" the sixth wall of the pool container is the atmosphere. The much less dense region above it is the sixth wall... and you may not extrapolate from this.
MC Toon tried to pin Flatzoid down on his special version of perspective a while ago. Toon asked him multiple times to either demonstrate or explain how it can make objects disappear, bottom first.
If memory serves me, Flatzoid fake rage quit.
Lil Timmy! You're the best Planarwalk and keep up the brilliant work!!
You missed a chance to use the classic Desertphile clip.
I can't watch this, I'm absorbing little Timmy's condescension. Good job putting up with his smarm.
"How many channels do we have now showing ...?" ... I'd say at least as many as Flatzoid removed from that Dragon landing video?
Eleven?
I appreciate that Little Timmy decided to follow your format, and only used silly voices for saying silly things.
He always says silly things. Are you saying his voice is always silly?
Did he say "boat on the ocean floor"? In that case you need some diving gears to be able to see it.
That boat video he shows clearly has the boat appear all at once and get clearer as he zooms in and once he zooms in enough you clearly see the horizon is still some distance behind it.
Little Timmy: "No such thing as curved water"
earlier Little Timmy: "Water can form a sphere because of surface tension." "Surface Tension raises the edge of water in a glass."
And he is criticising all "globies"??
And BTW Planarwalk, I cannot see the value in showing all of Timmy's utter inability to even understand what he is saying, let alone actual physics. He is rapidly getting to "Kaleb" levels of annoyingly stupid for me.
My jaw literally dropped when he said a gas particle can only come back down to the surface if it collides.
Like, bro. What happens when you jump? Do you bounce off of the dome and come back down? Gas particles are particles.
Alsoo, most of the effect on the gas would actually be collisions. Collisions with other gas particles. Shits colliding like crazy, but they all have a net force applied downward so will still try to trend downwards leading to a pressure gradient...
He clearly hasn't a clue what the mean free path is and what it relates to.
Gasses also find their own level just like water. Show them a foil boat floating on sulfur hexafluoride.
Another nitpick: maxima and minima are plural
Timmy learned a couple of new words. He thought using them would make him sound smart.
"What Little Timmy is saying here is kind of OxyMauronic..." Hey, I would never! ...oh, oxymoronic. Carry on.
If water always finds its level, why wouldn't gasses? That is the piece he is really missing.
He needs special pleading for that.
"The fact that he drew what he drew for the boat...displays an inability to-" Draw? "-think in more than one dimension." Oh, yeah. That too.
Flatzoid is not Little Timmy.
He's Dim Tim!
It’s the cherry-picking of physics axioms that annoys me, amongst other things!
You just don't understand quantum relativity, fermionic criterion legrange lorentz space time phenomena.
lol
I used to watch videos about flat earth and debunks because I found the psychology of flat eathers fascinating. But I've reached the point where I really can't find any more enjoyment in it because the mystery of the flat earther is essentially solved. Flat eathers are simply people who have the ability to rationalize explanations for their beliefs but do not have the ability to actually reflect on their beliefs.
All that said- Planarwalk; I really love watching your content in general so I'm a bit torn between wanting to watch your videos and being so bored with flat earthers. I always look forward to any content you make that doesn't involve rehashing flat earth arguments for the donzenth time.
*_YAY! BAPHIE'S BACK_* ‼️
Flatzoid doesn't understand the math. The boat never reaches the angular size that would reach the diffraction limit.
The length/width of the boat is going to scale 1:1 with the height. Until the entire boat is invisible, the height to width ratio remains the same.
The container the atmosphere is held in is the gravity well.
Physics says that water will seek the lowest potential energy state, which is where the forces acting on the surface is equal at all points.
I love how Flatzoid immediately went to ad-hominen attacks and appeals.
Flatzoid is that kid back in Middle-School that just never got it and everyone laughed.
I would love it it a bunch of debunkers got together and made a workable flat earth model with a minute detail that unravels the entire thing, put it on in the flat earth circles, and watch flat earthers cling to it for a year or two and then they come out a year or two later and present all the evidence needed to prove they just made it up, even signing in to the original posting's account live on stream.
They've been trolled like that before, they just don't talk about it. They don't care about reality if they can shout random words into a microphone to impress their followers.
Best flat earther argument, change the question.
Just show how co2 stays in an open container to show the effects of gravity and then show how water in a cup can curve when it is just over the edge.
But will this change their argument?
Capilliary action makes water curve when in a thin test tube or graduated cylinder. That's not a gravitational force, yet the water is curved.
Surface tension is the reason for the meniscus in those tubes. Capillary action doesn't come into play until the tubes are narrow enough for the curved parts to meet in the middle.
@DavidSmith-vr1nb Thank you for the correction. Regardless, more ways for water to naturally visibly curve without gravity being the main driving force.
I see Failzoid had turned to using the virtual crayons to remove the temptation of eating the real ones.
He is using virtual crayons because he has eaten all of the real ones.
If the surface of the water is as far away as the boat WHY wouldn't both get smaller.
15:31 Flatzoid doesn’t realize his pressure/container argument is actually a huge problem for flat Earth and not a problem at all for the globe.
If Earth is flat and there’s a dome/firmament/container containing the gas and generating pressure, then Flatzoid/Little Timmy needs to explain how that works when there’s about 2,900 miles of vacuum between the top of the atmosphere and the top of the flerf dome.
In the flerf model, the atmosphere doesn’t touch the dome. If they don’t touch then there’s no containment.
#FlatzoidFail
His argument is that there's surface area on the ground that the gas bounces off of so that's why it's 14.6 psi here and not up there. That and gases are formed at the ground. It's literally a 5 years old child's explanation.
Flat earthers often say that there can be no gas pressure without container. What if you had a fan blowing air into a can, simulating the gravity? Then you would have a semi-open end (where the fan is) and still gas pressure inside the can would be higher than outside.
Imagine how often airlines would be replacing vomit bags if this was shown on planes instead of an in-flight movie.
Erm Rayleigh is about resolving objects next to each other. If the ship was unresolvable you’d just see the very bottom merging with the sea and it shouldn’t disappear behind the sea.
If the distance between the sea and the bottom of the ship’s hull wasn’t able to be discerned because of the diffraction limit why does the amount hidden change vertically and in line with a globe? Why doesn’t it become “compressed” or hidden before the horizon? Why don’t smaller ships start to disappear like this when they are closer?
Flatzoid for top left!
There is a lot of competition there. Maybe MCToon should start categories of top left like in Oscars. Most stupid video, most slappable face, most condescendingly wrong statement, most quotable video (well the clear winner is 15 degrees per hour from Bob), ...
When Flat Earthers claim that gas(actually fluids, which are either liquids or gases) requires a container and then refuse to believe that the force of gravity would be sufficient to contain, that it NEEDS to be physical how do they explain droplets of fluid being contained by acoustic levitation? Is the force of the sound waves not containing the fluid? It is at least a measurable and demonstrable instance of a non-physical container.
You're doing good work friend. Goodness knows I don't have the patience for these people
Ahh I see now - Flatzoid thinks the Rayleigh criteria only applies to the bottom of an object at the horizon and only on the vertical axis. You are absolutely right, he is so dumb that not only does he fail to think in 3 dimensions, even 2 is out of his range, so he interprets things one dimensionally.
Every time I have an argument with a flat earther, one thing is a guarantee. The moment I ask for a flat earth model that predicts anything at all, meteorology, cosmology, effects we feel, see, or the like. I inevitably get hit with insults, nothing more. I've yet to see a modal that explain 2 things we see at the same time, they just can't do it. Planarwalk, love you, keep it up. We can't let ignorance spread.
I would love to see you and Little Timmy on a live stream together. He's very good at being condescending when no one is contradicting him in real time. In fact, he's got his little friend cheering him on and say "right, right" the whole time.
Actually, I think it would just turn into him trying to talk over you every opportunity, because that's what people do when they have no real data to fall back on.
All credibility lost when he opened Bing...
Maybe Google is the enemy because Google Earth shows a globe?
Planarwalk, your Flatzoid impression is absolutely spot on. I love how he complains about it and proceeds to do the cringiest voices that genuinely made me turn captions on and mute my phone every time he began using one.
Hey Flatzooid! 👋🤡
But wait the water’s angular size get smaller since we’re focusing on a part of the water which is further away? This sounds like as the boat gets further away and thus smaller it is somehow on the same spot in the water?
Easy demonstration of water not finding its level. Put water in a container and spin it. The water will climb the walls of the container and the surface will form a parabola. Centrifugal force changes the water level and is an analog for gravity.
You could possibly do a similar experiment for air. It would take some pricey equipment though. Get a container shaped like a tire off its rim and spin it really fast in a vacuum chamber. There should be still be air pressure in the container when the chamber is evacuated.
You can increase air pressure by using a fan and that doesn’t have a container.
I couldn't ever find the patience to tell these ppl exactly how and y they r wrong. Props for that.
One part that is really funny. At 25:25 he says "One side is the same as the other side" but the image he is showing is about osmosis and you can see that it is only the initial state of an experiment. The final state, the one were water is at rest, can be seen right under it and it has the two sides at different levels, completely disproven everything he said.
Good _gravy,_ that man is insufferable. I honestly have no idea how you can make it through watching that stuff.
No please, no more of little Tims misunderstandings, childish diagrams and irritating voice. No more, pleeeeeeeease?