The Cass Review: Has the Trans Community Been Let Down Again?

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  • čas přidán 10. 04. 2024
  • The recent Cass Review Report, which proposed 32 recommendations on how gender services for children and young people should operate, has highlighted the state of inadequate care provided to young people who faces issues with their gender identity.
    In conversation with Katy Jon Went, a social justice campaigner, Chamber UK explored:
    - How this review will affect health professionals' ability to support local citizens
    - How policymakers can ensure that the recommendations are implemented to prioritise the wellbeing of young people
    - How the findings necessitate a reassessment of Labour's policy position.
    To read more analysis in our online article, please click the link here: chamberuk.com/why-has-the-tra...
    #CassReview #GenderCare #lgbtq #TransHealth #TransRights #GenderIdentity #GenderDysphoria #TransCommunity #NHS #Healthcare #Policy #EvidenceBased #TransYouth #MedicalResearch #Neurodevelopment #MentalHealth #HolisticAssessment #PartyPolitics #SocialCare #Inclusion #Diversity #CommunityCohesion

Komentáře • 136

  • @socalhustlers4551
    @socalhustlers4551 Před měsícem +88

    Ok just stop. You all know this is adolescent abuse. You've been outed. Time to bring these sadistic elites to justice.

    • @pablolowenstein1371
      @pablolowenstein1371 Před měsícem +1

      The cult will go into attack mode...again. they are collapsing. The truth always wins...always.

  • @AndyPlaysGolf
    @AndyPlaysGolf Před měsícem +73

    If gender is a "social construct" then why is there such a push for clinics and organisations that "affirm" a gender? Shouldn't the individual just "construct" their gender and live it?

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem

      Exactly what we used to do. But there was no consumerisim in that and it was far to mentally empowering and socially evolved. Can't have the plebs actually growing in awareness.

    • @megaloschemos9113
      @megaloschemos9113 Před měsícem +16

      Very true. It's very strange to permanently alter the body for a fluid construct.

    • @snu3877
      @snu3877 Před 20 dny

      They weirdly believe opposite things: "my biology does not determine my sex or gender." Also: "I simply MUST take these puberty blockers and/or hormones and/or have this surgery so my physical body can align with the sex/gender I feel inside." @@megaloschemos9113 The entire trans agenda is like a rickety house of cards.

    • @borkingborker5567
      @borkingborker5567 Před 20 dny

      In an ideal world, yes. But in the real world, people get bullied for not looking like the gender they identify as. When a trans woman enters a public bathroom, there is a high risk that they will be assaulted or even murdered, especially if it’s physically evident that they are trans. Not only that, but a transwoman that had to undergo male puberty will never be able to compete in women sports fairly because their muscle mass has built up too much. If society didn’t care about men looking like men and women looking like women, then appearance wouldn’t be an issue and medical treatment could be avoided. People that transition early are able to develop the physical features of the gender they identify as.

    • @TheNesbittExperience
      @TheNesbittExperience Před 16 dny +1

      I think they mean the ROGD kids. It used to be boys and men who identified as trans, but more recently it shot up like 4,000 % in young girls, and that’s the social contagion piece. The pandemic caused them all to go online and they self diagnosed before even seeing a doctor. There is an instance where someone tested this theory and sent in a child, and within 7 minutes, she had a script for testosterone. US doesn’t have a national healthcare program so it’s about money and big pharmaceutical. There are billionaires behind this movement. It’s a classist movement. In boys and men, as Katy said, it’s another conversation. Some are AGP, just a gay kid that hasn’t discovered that yet, or some sort of mental health issue such as anxiety/depression/SA/autism and then went misdiagnosed because psychology and medicine aren’t playing by the rules. Do no harm. In America, we watched it all unfold on a television show, the horrors of GAC. It’s Brave New World and a move towards desensitization through the pernicious obfuscation of language, and eventually, transhumanism.

  • @annabodot962
    @annabodot962 Před měsícem +80

    I don’t know what it’s like to b a transwoman. But I do know what it’s like to be a natal female and how a colposcopy feels, what it’s like to see a 26 yo female die of ovarian cancer, what it feels like to have an ectopic pregnancy burst, what birth control side effects feel like, what a Pap smear is like, what an abortion is like (horrible), what it’s like to go through menopause and post menopausal osteoporosis, but yeah, hormonal drugs mimic PMS and I’m supposed to call a male a woman and if I don’t I’m a hater😆?!?!

    • @Forthestate
      @Forthestate Před měsícem +17

      Excellent post.

    • @catherinerobilliard7662
      @catherinerobilliard7662 Před měsícem +17

      Not forgetting peri- menopause which is an ordeal before an ordeal; and in my case, losing my breasts through cancer.

    • @borkingborker5567
      @borkingborker5567 Před 20 dny

      You do realize someone could do that same to you. They could start calling you a man against your will, and with enough time that would definitely upset you. It’s about respecting others until disrespect is shown to you.

    • @HalfB
      @HalfB Před 19 dny +8

      @@borkingborker5567Well, but one is a true statement and the other is false. The truth is not an epithet.

    • @johnholmesinchesahead342
      @johnholmesinchesahead342 Před 13 dny +2

      None of these things make you a woman - you just think you are.

  • @cassiusclay7362
    @cassiusclay7362 Před měsícem +45

    Biology and facts don't care about your feelings.
    Leave children alone.

    • @johnholmesinchesahead342
      @johnholmesinchesahead342 Před 13 dny +1

      I'm a child and I disagree with you.

    • @donellacampbell307
      @donellacampbell307 Před 13 dny +3

      @@johnholmesinchesahead342 Your statement demonstates that you are a child!

    • @cassiusclay7362
      @cassiusclay7362 Před 12 dny

      @@johnholmesinchesahead342
      Your parents are a disgrace and are weak for even allowing you to be this confused .

    • @randomname9502
      @randomname9502 Před 3 dny +1

      @@johnholmesinchesahead342 Nobody cares, what a kid brainwashed by Marxist cult ideology projects onto the world.

  • @victorwgrana
    @victorwgrana Před měsícem +56

    How about the Normal Community.We get let down all the time.

  • @MarjorieStoker-oj8fh
    @MarjorieStoker-oj8fh Před 20 dny +8

    No it has to stop leave children alone

  • @VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0
    @VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0 Před 22 dny +15

    We have a crumbling economy and wars being fueled. What Trans people want should be the least of our concerns.

  • @douglascharnley8249
    @douglascharnley8249 Před měsícem +40

    This is what happens when u pander to the delusion of children.

    • @alibrown6268
      @alibrown6268 Před měsícem +10

      Although many of these children have been subjected to misleading information and actually believe they can change sex

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem +11

      It isn't a delusion coming fron children it is one implanted by the behavior and attitudes of ignorant adults.

    • @user-bz4sy3gj4o
      @user-bz4sy3gj4o Před měsícem

      @@Gingerblaze I'd say psy....chos because they mut...ilate young adults for profits... they 'socially transition' them so when they turn 18 they can bu...tcher them.... all is done before their brains fully develop to realize what's done to them

    • @funkyfranx
      @funkyfranx Před 22 dny

      This has come from adults. This started with fetishistic men and self-hating gays, and is ending with confused children.

    • @johnholmesinchesahead342
      @johnholmesinchesahead342 Před 13 dny +1

      Pandas live in China - not children - unless society has changed again.

  • @sarahquinn6989
    @sarahquinn6989 Před měsícem +28

    8:27 Gotta say, a bit frustrating hearing your final description of things. Especially as many of us who have always tried to have empathy and be moderate have faced a decade of shut down and hostility.
    So, question: will things change? Or will one side of the spectrum march on, ignoring these findings and the need for change?
    Appreciate your optimism, but don't share it. I'm afraid for many young people and families who will be facing very difficult futures. Who will be supporting them when they are 30, 45, 60? You state that these children shouldn't be pawns in a culture war but what happens to them when they are no longer the darlings of of a particular ideology?

  • @clairhonnor6211
    @clairhonnor6211 Před 27 dny +22

    We told you to leave the kids alone. The TQplus cult wouldn't listen

  • @sarahquinn6989
    @sarahquinn6989 Před měsícem +19

    1:25 You're right. The kids aren't going to go away. However, now they might actually get some significant mental health care. The system will need to improve, provide more resources, and provide psychothearpy.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem +3

      Which will only further entrench these ideologies as psychotherapists and counsellors have been "educated" in ideologically captured institutions.

    • @user-bz4sy3gj4o
      @user-bz4sy3gj4o Před měsícem

      @@Gingerblaze that's true, they should get real help from normal humans not the woke fas..cists

    • @donellacampbell307
      @donellacampbell307 Před 29 dny +2

      Not all of them!

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Před 21 dnem +1

      @@Gingerblaze No, those counsellors will all be in jail, leaving properly trained therapists to help.

  • @ladabingo7912
    @ladabingo7912 Před 19 dny +5

    Clinicians should not be in a state of confusion. The findings of the Cass report are very clear. It may take time to implement them in full but the main priority right now is to put a stop to abuse. There is nothing unclear about that. Stop the abuse of children now.

  • @user-bz4sy3gj4o
    @user-bz4sy3gj4o Před měsícem +15

    how did a di sor der become an identity..... that's what should be explained... do people with other body dysmorphia get to have an identity? how about bipolar? eating disorders? meaning whatever disorder a person has that's their core identity.... pretty sad

  • @vivienneb6199
    @vivienneb6199 Před 29 dny +25

    No one is fooled by this, males need to stay out of female only spaces. This is a zero sum game.

  • @vivienneb6199
    @vivienneb6199 Před 29 dny +18

    Nope, it is all about the AGPs, and they want so much to claim the "trans kid" is real. This is a cover for males with a fetish.
    I don't give a damn, @chamber, you look like a 1970s dude aging in his mom's basement and still hoping to get the band together. You are not a woman, never have been and never will be.
    Your larping is a joke to women, and insult.
    You want respect, stay out of female only spaces.
    You want respect, do not force women to participate in your fetish without consent.
    Leave the kids alone.
    You have your fetish, now get on with it, and leave the kids alone.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 28 dny

      Canyou literallycite any source with a concret example where itsnot heresay but proof that ot happened.
      Else, no it were the aliens, and thats as believable as, aliens did cause jan 6th.
      Have you literally anyproof that isnt what you think happened.
      If not aliens told me you were wrong

    • @barryledgister4496
      @barryledgister4496 Před 21 dnem +5

      I haven`t watched the video yet and I know who you mean. Seen him in a few vids. Yikes. AGP with a side order of something he wouldn`t want to talk about. AGP is his respectable side.

  • @samuelsnow8714
    @samuelsnow8714 Před 23 dny +11

    The Cass review revealed that gender identity is a social construct. Is in your head and needs a different solution. The reason why there is a high demand is social influence.

    • @snu3877
      @snu3877 Před 20 dny

      Bill Maher points out that if trans is purely a biological reality and not influenced by social contagion, then we would not be seeing regional differences in the prevalence of trans people. But we are! You may go to a school in Los Angeles, and 1/4 of the kids in a class will identify as trans. Go to a school in Ohio, and maybe 0 or 1 out of a class will identify as trans. And don't get me started on these parents with 2 or more trans kids. The odds are astronomical.

    • @littleboots9800
      @littleboots9800 Před 13 dny

      The cass review was disappointing. It still talked about "gender identity" as if we all have one (zero evidence for its existence,) and used the language of the cult with terms like "Assigned Female/Male At Birth" to describe biological girls and boys. And she's a consultant paediatrician!

    • @rosshonniball5345
      @rosshonniball5345 Před 10 dny

      Love how you turned their 'social construct' words against them so simply. Brilliant.

  • @christinadonnelly9876
    @christinadonnelly9876 Před měsícem +19

    What is the “moderate” position on continued child abuse?
    Stunting kids’ growth and development, allowing them to amputate healthy body parts, letting them sacrifice future sexual function before they’ve ever experienced an orgasm?
    This seems sane and sensible to all of you?
    The excuse used to be that it prevents suicide. The Cass Report found no evidence of that.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 28 dny +1

      Well misgendering when its pretty clear what would gelp them is not, is child abuse and the fear, all that,litetallyis child abuse. Terfs want patents to abuse their children to feel right.
      Also same people who " think of the children" do never actiäually listen or care what children. Its all about outrage.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 28 dny +1

      Really wasnt there the bit that cases where the environment accomodated , people were in way better mental health.
      Tgazs where it prevents suicides, if you can read, thats the evidence. Its prettymuch implies that less damaging mental heath, that fewer suicide is implied.

    • @christinadonnelly9876
      @christinadonnelly9876 Před 27 dny +3

      @@marocat4749Sorry, between the typos, the jargon and the gobbledegook, I can’t even understand what you’re saying. Care to try again in comprehensible standard English?

    • @christinadonnelly9876
      @christinadonnelly9876 Před 27 dny +5

      @@marocat4749The Cass Review found no evidence to support that claim.

    • @snu3877
      @snu3877 Před 20 dny

      Maybe it's the hormone cocktail? Can't make sense of any of it, LOL. @@christinadonnelly9876

  • @jonahtwhale1779
    @jonahtwhale1779 Před měsícem +27

    Trans community? What is that?
    Do all 'trans' people think and believe the same things? No variations at all in opinions?
    If not, then how are these various ideas and expressions melded into a single view?
    Do they have meetings where everyone is included, free to contribute, every person given the same prominence?
    Do they have fora, elections and other mechanisms to share opinions etc?
    Or do a loud, intolerant minority drown out any ideas they do not like and present themselves as the voices of people they do not represent?
    Or is there no trans community at all. An invention of ideologically driven people to engrandize themselves?

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem +5

      Definitely the later. Same for all the other supposed "communities" we are told the "beliefs" of. "Disability", "deaf", "feminist", "autistic" "gender realists", "POC" "Black" "LGB" etc

    • @pablolowenstein1371
      @pablolowenstein1371 Před měsícem +7

      A succinct analysis of this ideological cult.

    • @marylowrey8911
      @marylowrey8911 Před 9 dny

      Well put and needed to be said. I’m gay. When I was a student or a young women I was, obviously, in and out of clubs and pubs. Once a year I went to a local Pride event, maybe even travelled to another one . We were NOT a community!
      It didn’t need a month. I certainly didn’t want the encouragement of bloody Sainsbury’s. Even when we clearly sought equal pension rights , ability to get a joint mortgage and the ability to bring a same sex partner to a works do, we might be described as a pressure group but we still were not a community.
      BTW, we achieved parity before the 20th century ended. My concern is that this could be undone by a generation of entitled , warped, crazies determined to destroy our moderate, affable consensus and ruining young lives into the bargain.

  • @sarahquinn6989
    @sarahquinn6989 Před měsícem +6

    6:00 Thank you for reconising the need for debate. Your life choices aren't up for debate, but our childrens needs are.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem

      The group whose choices ARE up for debate are those made by the medical industrial complex who have chosen to shirk off the principle of evidence based medicine and "do no harm".

  • @jeremiahreilly9739
    @jeremiahreilly9739 Před měsícem +8

    I think we can agree that patience and compassion are useful to bring to a discussion or to a debate. In Chapter Two of On Liberty, John Stuart Mills argues strongly against the silencing of expressing opinions: "He who knows only his side of the case, knows little of that." Meaning, it is essential to understand why others disagree with you, otherwise you risk believing that you are infallible. I think we disagree. Probably 100%. But I listened to the interview.

  • @laurahacking1986
    @laurahacking1986 Před 19 dny +14

    Very balanced. However, we cannot ignore the fact that the toxicity comes from ONE side. TRA'S have threatened, harrassed, stalked, doxxed and stopped women (mostly) from talking about this. No GC feminist has done any of this, we've wanted to talk about it, for years but have been prevented and lost their livelihoods.

    • @randomname9502
      @randomname9502 Před 3 dny

      They are still foaming, mad Marxists, ready for violence.

  • @marygarrett9724
    @marygarrett9724 Před 23 dny +8

    This report is fact based. Get your facts.

    • @littleboots9800
      @littleboots9800 Před 13 dny

      "Fact based" yet still uses the language of the gender cult like "AFAB" instead of biological girl (the only type,) and "gender identity" whilst zero evidence exists of such a thing.
      They are still pandering to the ideologues who desperately need to make ppl believe transkids exist in order to make sense of their ideology.

  • @kenfalloon3186
    @kenfalloon3186 Před 10 dny +1

    A child is not able to make an informed choice about matters that will radically affect the rest of their lives. They are children. Anyone who beçomes aware of children being harmed and does not get a bit 'toxic' about it is a wrongn in my opinion.

  • @noregretcoyote1808
    @noregretcoyote1808 Před 21 dnem +3

    Is Katie a biological male? I’m also in a state of confusion.

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 Před měsícem +4

    I would argue that the Affirmative approach has let down trans people. If your process has had severely damaging results for a significant minority of your patients. Then your response should be to study those cases, and to update your criteria for diagnosis and prescription. Not to dismiss, diminish, and demonise reasonable critiques.
    On top of the suffering caused by this wilful blindness. There will now be further suffering caused to trans people by a jarring change to the system, which could've been avoided by engaging reasonably with the evidence and course-correcting iteratively.

  • @pinkkitten_nails
    @pinkkitten_nails Před měsícem +19

    No women have been let down again. Misogyny is real. Patriarchy is still patriarchy even in a dress

    • @gloriagloria8482
      @gloriagloria8482 Před měsícem

      How do you think the patriarchy looks at the "man in a dress with boobs" .Are you serious?

    • @maureensansburn6413
      @maureensansburn6413 Před 23 dny +3

      Good description of the trans movement (at leat the MtoF part) Misogyny in a dress

    • @snu3877
      @snu3877 Před 20 dny +4

      I love how JK Rowling put it: "The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight."

    • @randomname9502
      @randomname9502 Před 3 dny

      Actually, the whole whining about the pAtRiArChY is what led us to this point as a society. This whole delusion is just the next level of the same Marxist brain rot that came up with terms like "tHe pAtRiArChY".

  • @themachinestops23
    @themachinestops23 Před měsícem +2

    Wow, what a fantastically sensible discussion!!

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 Před 11 dny +1

    Just admit that it was wrong to mess with kids health and make sure it will never happen again.

  • @johnholmesinchesahead342
    @johnholmesinchesahead342 Před 13 dny +1

    I'm 57 and have been taking puberty blockers for nigh on 40 years. I still grew up - so do they work?

  • @andyiswonderful
    @andyiswonderful Před 16 dny

    It sounds like you are generally agreeing with the Cass Report and are calling for reason and common sense, and not bullying ideology and stonewalling.
    It is unclear to me why many commenters here are disagreeing with you.

  • @saje239
    @saje239 Před měsícem +3

    I don’t always agree with Katy, but I always appreciate that she tries to take a critical and empathetic view of all sides.

  • @xmaseveeve5259
    @xmaseveeve5259 Před 14 dny

    SHAMEFUL.

  • @margefield8520
    @margefield8520 Před 7 dny

    I can't believe the penny hasn't yet dropped with you people.

  • @wulphstein
    @wulphstein Před 4 dny

    Ban bottom surgery.

  • @muiresuilgorm3452
    @muiresuilgorm3452 Před 7 dny

    No.

  • @Dougn57
    @Dougn57 Před 24 dny +4

    Dude on the left is much much better at playing a girl 😅😅😅!!

  • @teddybass4450
    @teddybass4450 Před 20 dny

    Bloke on the right has nice hair

  • @nielszindel1151
    @nielszindel1151 Před 25 dny +1

    Which community the ones who believe in clap trap or the sane ones? Delia Morris

  • @damianball766
    @damianball766 Před měsícem +2

    Couldn't agree more. we need more clear minds.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Před měsícem +5

      Clear minds are only possible with clear language. Start there.

  • @kelleygreengrass
    @kelleygreengrass Před 6 dny

    What losers. Leave kids alone.

  • @user-ze8go7mh1c
    @user-ze8go7mh1c Před 21 dnem

    Community lol. No.

  • @marocat4749
    @marocat4749 Před 28 dny +1

    Just because people do wildtakes,and terfs cant read, doeant mean it is.
    Litrerally every near second sentence is that the culture war doesnot help at all .
    Which by itself should tell that,terfs cant read,but the author isnt bloody a terf, and wants more research and let it to bloody doctors and patience without the panic.
    The author hates the trans panic,i would guess. She isnt a bloody terf.

    • @nielszindel1151
      @nielszindel1151 Před 25 dny +1

      Terfs are women who defend our rights to exist as a female sex category. Delia Morris

    • @funkyfranx
      @funkyfranx Před 22 dny +3

      'Terf' being another word for 'witch' in this case. It's a misogynistic slur, nothing more.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Před 21 dnem

      @@funkyfranx A TERF is any rational person who can see straight through the tr@ns bullsh!t and cares about children.

    • @littleboots9800
      @littleboots9800 Před 13 dny +1

      The audacity to talk about others reading ability when you write the way you do is astounding!
      Ive seen you say that in several comments now. Yet you are barely stringing a coherent sentence together and when you do it's misspelt, lacking punctuation, missing words, has spaces where they're not needed and none where they are and the sentence structure is awful too.
      If you had just put your point across without name calling and insulting others intelligence we could be here talking about the issues instead of your writing skills.
      Nice cat though. I like cats.

  • @vivienneb6199
    @vivienneb6199 Před 29 dny +8

    Oh my, this is all about stopping puberty in children. Why? So they remain childlike?

    • @maureensansburn6413
      @maureensansburn6413 Před 23 dny +4

      Yes I wonder if that isn;t one the aims.

    • @barryledgister4496
      @barryledgister4496 Před 21 dnem

      @@maureensansburn6413 Girls who `transition` remove their breasts almost as soon as they arrive. Breasts are a significant outward sign of female adulthood. Men masquerading as women often call themselves `girls` despite being middle aged. `Trans girls` often dress like teenagers or in a style from their mothers` youth. I`d say their obsession with puberty blocking connects with these things.