Canyon Endurace vs Giant Defy | BATTLE of The Endurance Bikes | 2020 Bike of The Year
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- Canyon Endurace vs Giant Defy, it's the endurance bike battle of 2020. Our 2020 bike of the year was hotly contested in the endurance bike category, but eventually Senior Road Editor Warren Rossiter narrowed it down to just two amazing bikes. Which one comes out on top? You'll have to watch to find out.
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Did we get it right? Let us know which bike would be your winner in the comments!
Can You recommend that bike for a 195cm and 107kg guy...? Other than that i think You made the right choice for this category
Fast high racer recumbent bikes like Lightning P38, Cruzbike Vendetta, Cruzbike Silvio, Bachetta Carbon Aero, Carbent Raven, M5 carbon high racer
I would like to know the other top 10 contenders
@@haroldhdknoxstreet-glide5331 I'd go with the canyon because they have 2XL size. I'm 203 cm and I weigh the same as you, that's the one I went with. Giant doesn't have anything as large.
Where is the mention of Trek Domane 2020 model. Best endurance bike in my opinion
I purchased the Giant, I now have about 1,000 miles on it, so far, I love it. At first it seemed a little slow handling, sort of lazy feeling, but I did cross over from a much more aggressive race road bike. I was also skeptical about riding a bike with 32 tires, I thought it would feel slow, nothing could be further from the truth. Overall, I am extremely impressed with bike and would recommend it, particularly if your a rider like myself, now in my 50’s and wanting something to do long rides.
Love the review. I bought the Defy Adv Pro 2 2020 as my second only ever road bike purchase. My old 531 road bike has lasted 25 years and well over 150k km of terrible Scottish roads, winters and a few crashes, so some big shoes to fill. I was initially disappointed at a kind of numb ride feeling from it compared to my tight and springy old bike but I put in some big rides in Covid lockdown and fell in love with the thing. Whilst it doesn't set the heather on fire in any category as 'best in the world' (climbing, descending or whatever) it is a very very good bike at just about everything. It rides fast, is comfortable (changed the saddle to a Selle Italia SLR Superflow), and, saddle aside, is a very considered and well designed all-round machine. It also looks great, in my opinion - here's to the next 25 years...
It seems criminal to not mention the eyelets for fenders on the Defy - I'm a huge Canyon fan but the fender compatibility of the Defy is what ultimately made me get the Defy over the Endurance.
EnduRace.
Hi there, I have the 2018 version of the Defy Pro 1. Awesome bike! Take care and safe riding. Ysbeer
Warren, you've had my trust for *years*, and having just received my 2021 iteration of this bike -- largely based on your review(s) -- it's abundantly clear that trust is well deserved.
Thanks - I bought a Canyon Endurace CF SLX 8.0 the other day. Very helpful.
I definitely like the genre. I ride a gen 2 Domane SLR rim brake w/Ultegra Di2... a pretty sweet combo for the type of riding I enjoy. Generally, a great time to be a cyclist. So many good bikes to choose from.
Excellent review. The Canyon cockpit is great, feels and looks fast. The Reynolds Ar41 are known to be flexible sideways. No disc rub with DTSwiss ERC 1400. Race bike with comfort.
great stuff! well explained! 👌🏻👍🏻
Great Review!
I got a cheaper Giant Defy Advanced 2 with 105 groupset. It was fantastic value back in 2020. Rides like a charm, and a simple tuneup and She's ripping like a youthful beast!
Riding a 2015 Defy Advanced, first of their all disc Defy and the early version with quick release still. Keep going to upgrade it but I still love it... Commuting or long weekend rides, always makes me smile.
28mm tubeless and 4 piston Deore MTB brake calipers make it a real hooligan machine on long sketchy descents :)
I own the canyon CF SLX Di2 in the red and black and it’s a fantastic bike. I rode a demo bike at the worlds in Harrogate last year and was blown away by the speed and comfort and decided there and then that this was the bike for me. Very light for an endurance as well just over 7kg.
Steve King as long as it’s the same frame/cockpit with the excellent seat post as you go down the range I wouldn’t expect much if any ride difference, it’s just slightly better components you’re paying for. As for the brake rub the only time I notice it is when going through a puddle, I’ve been out in the rain for a few hours with no problems but it’s just the odd time they get submerged like through a stream for example, the only other time when it was squeaking I realised that I didn’t have the skewers quite tight enough. I tend to clean them now and then with Muc Off - disc cleaner which is supposed to help.
Thanks for the detailed review. My old 2014 Giant Advance Defy (aluminum frame version) is getting tired, and the group I ride with is getting younger (I'm 60) so time to upgrade. I bought a "newzed" 2020 Giant Defy and am looking forward to getting it dialed in over the next few days. Looking forward a comfort boost to take some of the "sting" out of my 3+ hour group rides.
Good video fellas. Thanks
I have ridden Giant mountain bikes do 30 years and road bikes for 4. The giant defy ticks all my boxes as an all rounder. Well built frame handlebar and saddle and for me it's now my only road bike.
Bang on as always, Warren.
I have been riding the Defy Advanced 1 2019 for a year, Identical except for the tyres. Exceptional bike. Giant has done an awesome job in the way that your don't at all feel the flex of the post or bars, you only feel the increase in comfort, particularly on 3 hours + rides. Could be a tad lighter. Will not be shopping for a bike any time soon :-).
I been riding a giant defy advance 3 Tiagra and I love the Giant but wanted to upgrade the group set and after much comparison and watching videos etc I decided for the Canyon endurace cf sl 8.0 hydraulic disc brakes all Ultegra group and I love it. I have to say the endurace even though is an endurance bike is a more agressive position than the giant. I almost got the Giant defy 1 all ultegra but canyon gave me better rims, better tires and better crank for the same money. you can't go wrong with either one. Also look at Trek Domane SL5 (105) and SL6 (ultegra) but about 1,000 $$$ more for same components so no, but beautiful bikes too. Ride lots and have fun..
Just lucked out and picked one up today. Was looking into the Trek Domane SL5 but was told no inventory until July of 2021, due to COVID’s impact in the supply chain. Wow 😳. I got it as my second bike, but I have a feeling it’s gonna become my first choice pretty soon.
Defy was my first bike and still I still use it for commuting but bought the Canyon reviewed here and it is much better value with better branded
components and is lighter and racier. Any sacrifice in comfort or frame quality is unnoticeable to most normal people. I wanted more for my €4K and got that with the Canyon Endurace 8.0 Di2 Aero. God that name is exhausting though.
@Aidan Masterson
What gearing do you have on your canyon??
He said on the review that it’s got 50/34 front chain rings, but on the canyon website it clearly states 52/36???
Did they get the gearing wrong on the review or is it a miss print on the canyon website?
Thanks in advance.
Steve of Staffordshire it’s a 52/36 in the video @4:54 you can screenshot and zoom in. It’s the same as the website says and Canyon confirmed this to be the spec. too
Absolutely love my Defy Adv 1 2017
I have the CF SLX Endurace with the mechanical groupset. One of the main reasons I chose the bike is that it comes in XXL. Giant and other brands don't offer my size so my choices are limited. That said, the Bike Radar assessment is spot on which for me is ideal. Upright angles and quicker handling are my preference. Compared to my 2011 Specialized Roubaix, the Endurace puts me more on top of the bottom bracket with more weight on the front wheel and more predictable, faster handling. Can't say I liked the Reynolds wheels though. The rims seemed OK, but one ride in a heavy rain and the rear hub/cassette body was full of water and squealing all the way home.
I've just bought a 2018 Endurace CF with mechanical 105 and rim brakes. Like you, the XXL sizing is the reason. I'm 6ft 8" and it feels like a perfect fit for me. My first ride on it was today and it performed beautifully. Very fast and comfortable.
I have had a Defy Pro 0 for a year now and it is by far the smoothest riding bike I have ever ridden. It's a Lazyboy compared to my other bike, a Cervelo S5!
Now this is a review. This is the kind of bike I want to ride every day, when not racing. I own an alloy defy.
I've tried the Giant, and the Argon 18 Krypton GF makes me smile way more.
@
Hugues Québécois Well of course it makes you smile more. Argon18 is a Quebec company.
Great video
A video about 2 endurance bikes (comfort), but mostly clips out of the saddle and thus not actually demonstrating the geometry
I own the Endurace, and your review of it was spot on. My only nit with the bike was the handlebars. The curve behind the hoods is very exaggerated, and I found it painful on my hands on long rides. I ended up changing out the bars for a set of my beloved Enve Compact Road bars. I had to source a Ritchey 1 1/4" stem, but it all worked out very well. It really is a great bike.
God I love these bike reviews by Warren! Big thumbs up!
Great to hear you liked them and thanks for watching from your friends at BikeRadar!
Endurace is just next level bike!!
Giant knows the needs of the rider! Though is always nice to try all brands. They all have something to offer.
Yes i do get disk brake rub in my canyon endurance when I climb out of saddle. It seems to a hit or miss. Sometimes there are bad disc rubs and sometimes there are none. I have a feeling something is wrong with the fork or thru axle. Hoping it lasts 5 years.
Super bike Giant Defy 🚲 Thank you . CHICAGO 🇵🇱🚲🇵🇱
I saw the just released 2021 TCR has modern aero tube profiles. Does the 2020 Defy have that, or not? If not I wonder when the next frame update is due.
Yeah the Giant for me too , and ive got a Canyon of the same model but from 2017 . Its not a bad bike by all means but the Giant seems more suited to the endrance rider .
i have a Giant Defy from a few years back and love it!! done a 100 mile ride and wasn't dead at the end. I would have to choose the GIANT
Got the 2019 Defy Adv. Pro and after ab 2 months with it im noticing the same brake rub sometimes when im climbing hard out of the saddle. Hopefully the 2020/2021 fixed that issue. Other than that, i have 0 complaints ab the Defy.
Would it make sense to spell out the bikes' names in the video description? That Endurace was quite a mouthful...
Last week I got my Defy Advanced Pro. Extremely light, stiff and smooth. Looked at the Domane but the frame is quite heavy as the price tag. Geometry vice I had to take one size bigger if I would had gone for the Domane. Bonus was Giants power meter that came with the bike. I do not need a super race bike that my old bike.
giant no subcontract no outsource. giant is always my pick
I have Giant Tcr Advance pro bike and under 6 months I had 2 broken spokes it's was under warranty but it was big hassle each time to get them fix not to mention couldn't use my bike for a very long time each time and at the end did buy another wheelset. I will stay away from Giant bike because of that. After your review I don't think I have enough confidence to buy Canyon because of that wheelset. Thank you
Own the Endurace CF SL 8.0 Mechanical from 2018. Small. Yep, includes that brake rub when climbing hard, gives me the shits trying to find the cause and tuning then re-tuning the discs/callipers..... grrrr. Aside from that i LOVE love love the smarts in the frame build. Dumped the standard Mavic Elite wheels for some American Classic ARGENTS, way better wheel and hubs but showing their age as the rim ID is 19 BUT being alloy the rim thickness each side is thinner than equivalent carbons so a 25C side wall is slightly outboard of the rim. Have some DT Swiss ERC 1400 Spline to fit so am hoping to notice an improvement, hoping...... The AC Argents were very underrated imo. and spin for ever. My H31 cockpit was too short for me sadly so needed regular bar and stem combo because rrp on Canyons all in ones are ridiculous.
I got a Canyon Endurace. Haven't received it yet, but looking forward to it. I want a bike now and it's hard/impossible to test at my LBS at the moment. I went with Canyon because mainly for the convenience, value and aesthetics. I wanted a lightweight, somewhat racey endurance bike with electronic shifting and disc brakes. I got the Flash Blue model, which looks fantastic (I'm not a fan of the current stealth color trend).
I was also considering Canyon's gravel bike, the Grail, but not only are they not in stock, an 8.0 Di2 Flash Blue model isn't available for sale either (U.S. market, as of 5/8/20). I think the Endurace can handle light gravel, so I'm not too disappointed. I'm also not completely sold on the Grail's hover bar; I find Future Shock 2.0 on the Specialized Diverge as a more effective solution to the same problem.
darthjohn0 got the flash blue in December - best looking bike I’ve ever seen. The performance and ride feel is even better than the looks!
What about those compared to the specialised rubbaix ?
Agreed. I love mine.
I Have 3 Giant Defy Advanced 0 and 1's and all have been good value. I have only one major issue with the latest version which is the Garvia tyres. They are absolute rubbish. Did not last long and are prone to slide nearly causing me a serious accident. Otherwise the Defy Advance Pro 0 2019 which I have is a great bike.I have swapped out for the Schwalbe tyres. In terms of weather you got it right I would agree as my next choice would be the Canyon. However in 2019 I did like the Roubaix.
Good comparison... as pointed out, the Canyon Endurace blurs the line between Race and Endurance, the Defy is total Endurance focussed.
I think if you are someone who likes speed/race feel/comfort, the Canyon Endurace is hard to beat.
If you want to do long Endurance rides and race feel is not needed, you’d go for the Giant Defy.
For disclosure, I’ve owned both of these bikes in the past, I sold the Defy and kept the Endurace. I also have a Giant Propel that I absolutely love. Between the 2, it covers everything I want for road cycling.
I have a Merida Silex 700 (gravel bike) and now bought a canyon endurace - the canyon endurace is more race than endurance I think. The Merida gravel bike has a much more endurace character for me than the canyon. The canyon is a fast stiff roadmachine - I love it (but only for rides which are not more than 12 hours long). The Merida is a 24 hours drive machine, but I think it's not just the geometry but also the aluminium frame which flexes more.
Giant make solid bikes but the paint jobs were 🤮. Paint jobs seem to get to be getting sharper though 👍🏻
To me by far its the Endurace...you get more value for your buck..and it flies !!
Thru axle is the issue, it need to be checked and also front hub might wobble a bit due to loose axle
Ride on. Love this bike.
This is the 2nd time i have heard of canyon's front wheel rub noise issue. I wonder something's up with canyon.
He said on the review that it’s got 50/34 front chain rings, but on the canyon website it clearly states 52/36???
Did they get the gearing wrong on the review or is it a miss print on the canyon website?
Can anyone confirm this either way??
Endurace is an old design, I'm curious why some of the new bikes for 2020 (Trek Domane, Specialized Roubaix, BMC RoadMachine, etc.) did not make the list? Pricepoint? I just can't get over the size of that massive Giant head tube.
If you want to see old designs - at least in terms of geometry - look no further than Trek and Specialized. They are as conservative as they come and still design frames as if it were 1975. Slow handling and shallow seat tubes - just like Greg Lemond and Bernard Hinault used to ride...
Todd Donovan You act like you haven’t seen the new Domane & Roubaix with their attenuation gadgetry. Of course, maybe you were primarily referring to handling.
@@todddonovan9780 Domane has huge tire clearance. Quite groundbreaking imo
Probably paid to promote these honestly which is why the other competitors where left out.
@@crislee4057 Domane is insanely heavier than most of these other options. More than 20 pounds weight. Matters a lot if you live in hilly place.
I had a Giant TCR that was only a few months old when the carbon chain stay appeared to start cracking. Giant said it was just the paint after looking at photos and 1) refused to test it 2) refused to warranty the frame or paint, even though they have a paint warranty. So much for that "excellent" warranty.
Wow, good to know. Here I was all ready to pull the trigger on the Defy. I will look elsewhere.
9kg for Giant Defy and 7.5kg for Canyon absolutely kills it!.......Canyon is a clear winner for me!.....
Wrong, the giant defy advanced pro 0 2019 is 7.68 kg
Sweet 👌
I think you may have overlooked one of the core aspects of endurance bike selection when you failed to mention the weight of either bike. Canyon is 1/2 kg lighter? Has electronic shifting. Let’s see that is comparable to measuring weight and quickness. Yeah- overlooked for sure.
Hi does anyone have an opinion on the non Pro Giant the Advanced 2 or 3 and how they compare obviously £1949 and £1600 just thinking of the ride quality?
How would you compare the Domane sl6 with these two?
can you guys do a video on tolerances and quality of manufacturing for different bike manufacturers? IE, if canyon frames have low tolerances and have a tendency to have more voids in the carbon vs other brands ext
Eliot Wolfert voids based on a 6-8 year old frame that we never got any proof or photos of them.
Bought the Giant largely based on your review. Now looking for a great touring bike, planning a cross Canada ride Thoughts on the Giant Toughroad?
Could always use the Defy and just get a trailer like the burley Coho.
Canyon using its own tech is the problem that I have. If I need parts, I have to order them and wait. Thats the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger.
Thinking about taking a trip to there Northern California canyon.Home. I really prefer hands on, but I love what you get for your money. Has anyone notice that most bikes these days have cheap drivetrains and parts for the prices we spend.
I have the non-DI2 version of the Canyon (no longer available?). Interestingly I also get that front brake rub under load. I am always attracted by the Giant Defy but for me the value of the Canyon is hard to beat.
I have the SLX version and has exactly the same issue on the front brake/fork... It takes sometimes 1 or 2 minutes to stop with this tricky noise....
I was wondering if I had gone crazy or my bike was just wrong. Got mine at the end of last season and have just been on my first few rides of the year here in MN. Have the front rotors properly aligned and the through axle tight, but still getting that. Mine came with the Mavic Ksyrium wheelset though.
Same here! No problems at all when riding normally, but when standing up I get the "klink-klink-klink" - might be the fork flexing?
@@David_B777 What's your experience with the Mavic wheels? Do you stick with the stock tyre brand or have you used other tyre brands on wheels and how is the fit?
@@ifeuma so far so good. Only have a few rides on them. Have only used the yksion ust tubeless tires.
I'm having a tough time determining whether Canyon will offer the Aero version of the Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0 Di2 in the USA.
Any inside info on whether this build will be coming stateside?
I tried to buy an Endurace, but Canyon could not find my address, then charged me in full, still could not find my address, then ran out of stock…very frustrating folks to deal with, though nice enough. Finally got my money back and just this week lucked into a Defy Advanced 2 at a shop 15 miles away👍👍 Two rides in two days and I am super happy.
How are you liking your defy advanced 2?
I'm planning on purchasing the same bike when it becomes available again. It will be my first road bike.
Which seatpost is more comfortable? Canyon VCLS 2.0 or Giant D-Fuse?
They have identical stack and reach. How comes the defy has the more upright position?
Stack is probably the same i.e. the drop. However reach can vary by seatpost setback, stem (might be the same for both bikes in a given size I dont know), handlebar reach, seat angle etc
Different seat and head tube angles
What about the ORBEA AVANT series ?
Which seatpost is more comfortable, does the VCLS work as advertised?
Ivo Roilev yes it works well you feel the flex working smoothing the ride, great technology
You didn't mention the all important weights?
Thanks
I’ve still got the equivalent bike from 2015... defy pro advanced 1 in red which is the spec point equivalent to the current pro advanced 2 (mechanical ultegra) I have to say the bike is just as good now as it was then. I’d definitely be going for the defy advanced pro 2 if I was upgrading now. My only gripe with the 2015 bike is the 28mm front tyre clearance is very tight, clearly the newer models have massively increased clearance. A friend has last years endurance, very nice bike but the giant edges it for me. I do agree with other comments on here though, the canyon one piece cockpit looks so slick compared to the giant stem setup. Maybe the next thing for giant to look at in 2021? Good review bikeradar 👍🏻
how much did you buy it for?
I own an Endurace (CF SLX 8.0 DI2) and it's a good bike... But before you buy I would strongly suggest you research Canyons customer service (at least in the USA) BEFORE you buy. I wish I had, because if I did I would be commenting about my Defy here (it was my second choice). My experience with Canyons customer service which I've been told is a different company than Canyon of Germany is that they will avoid providing service at all cost. My experience is they expect you to pay, then you are on your own and don't bug them about any issues, they don't want to hear it.
Andy,
August 2019 lots of videos touting the greatness of the Caynon Endurace SLX 8 DI2 , read several reviews and ordered and paid. Within a week I started hearing about customer service issues, read TrustPilot posts, some good but lots of others were unhappy. Customer waiting months for clear and simple issues to be resolved, you could feel their pain. Canyon billed my credit card for more than their online quote/ invoice, shipping was added in, was suppose to be free, on request charge was removed. Received the bike assembled it...short ride, loved it, fast, great breaking, smooth shifting... more like a Giant TCR not an endurance bike in my opinion. Boxed it up and shipped it back.
What weighed on me was customer service reviews (they are painful), bought a Defy carbon, ultegra NOT DI2 knowing Giant has very good customer support. All I could think of was a four day Boston to Montreal ride and having issues that would take months to address, My Defy is not as sporty but it is dependable, comfortable and I have peace of mind. If Canyon can resolve their service issues I'll be back in a few years. GL to all.
This is fine and good for Giant, if you are tall and do not live in Taiwan. Oddly, Giant does not manufacture or otherwise make available tall bikes for their local market. You can get one, but it’s a painfully unnecessary hassle of time, money, and effort. I live in Taiwan, and I am tall, so despite everything, Canyon wins. Well, the Merida Scultura 4000 is equitable, and it comes in large size available in Taiwan. Decisions....
Just ordered the Pro 3 model - 105 instead of Ultegra; £600 cheaper and in a lovely blue colour.
I'm toying with this idea too instead of the Ultegra version. Let me know what you think!
Nick, no regrets. A long time since I’ve used a Shimano group set and I cant believe how light the gear changes are. Can’t imagine needing anything better than 105. I’ve only done about 120 miles on the bike so far but they’ve been the most comfortable I’ve ever had on a non-suspended bike. It climbs, handles and still only weighs 18lbs (medium frame without pedals). I’m a weekend warrior, and for my purposes it’ll do everything I’m going to need it for. Only other spec difference I can see is an alloy D-Fuse bar rather than a carbon one
The Canyon is not 50/34 chainset,its a semi compact 52/36
where is the domane
I think the future of endurance bikes is going to merge with the gravel bike. One bike that does it all.
Probably, my LBS says they sell way more gravel bikes than endurance bikes these days, and the gravel bike buyers are mostly buying them for all arounders.
yip you were correct I bought a Giant Revolt Advanced 0 the 2022 model, My 2017 Giant Defy Advanced 2 is my road Bike, I'm limited to 28mm Tires.
They don't do the DI2 Endurace in the states.
I looked at both very hard and went with the Canyon. Once you factor in price, there is just no comparison IMHO.
Lbs support and warranty goes yo giant.
If your LBS won't take your money to service your Canyon, you need to find another LBS.
I'll trust a German-engineered and assembled bike coming from *one* plant in Koblenz rather than a zillion of the same bikes coming off some Chinese assembly line.
@@robertcalton9198 I think you're not giving credit where it's due. The Chinese are masters of manufacturing. In economics we learn that Western countries are have a competitive advantage in innovation. China has their's in skilled and unskilled labor. Just keep that in mind before you summarize an entire country's primary industry.
yery, yery, really, really
I agree......
What about Cannondale Synapse Carbon 2020?
Its isnt a good Endurance Bike
Anyone figure out how to put mud guards on the Canyon?
If you look carefully you can clearly see the answer at 6 seconds in! No need to watch the whole thing
No matter what, Its always Canyon for me.
That sort of illogical company bias will waste you a lot of money in your lifetime lol
Nobody else finds that Giant stem/steerer interface to be absolutely hideous?
It's to make sure your eyes are glued to the road. Vanity kills.
I own one and I think it’s fugly. You quickly forget once you start riding
Yep! Hideous
Yeah, it looks like a turd. Though I think I am getting used to it.
But at least you can change something as simple as a stem without having to change the whole bars too, inc disconnecting, re-routing your brake hoses, and then re-bleeding the whole system.
It's just because marketing says "we must have concealed cables, because people want to be more aero"
The engineers reply and say it will make f*** all difference to 99.99999% of people that ride it, and if the fat gits want to be more aero they should bend their elbows by another degree, and to stop undoing all their nice weight savings with pies while they're at it..
Marketing comes back from focus groups to report that that won't go down well, and does anyone know how to stop a nose from bleeding? Also, that people do like the integrated bar & stems that more and more other bikes are getting.
Then the mechanics spit out their tea and tell them to f*** off, they're not servicing that! It's just too much of a faff. But they would grudgingly accept that hideous stem contraption from the Propel.
The engineers like this idea, because it's aero, and they don't have to reinvent the wheel.
But marketing comes back saying everyone hated that one because it made their eyes bleed, it was just that ugly.
Corporate calls up to ask why the new bike isn't finished yet, and they have 2 weeks or heads will roll.
So then engineers have this contradicting brief and come up 2 designs, one NASA would be proud of, looks beautiful but is made of unobtainium and costs £500 each to make and the 2nd design that uses 50p of plastic to cover the cable with, which was only ever meant to be for the wind tunnel model but they thought they would throw it in 5 mins before the deadline, because they were so focused on the NASA one, they forgot to make an alternate design.
As soon as corporate sees the cost slide of the presentation they unanimously decide on the chincy plastic cover.
At this point engineering just wants to be done with the whole thing and not redesign it to look slightly better at the risk that it gets rejected again because now there are too many fingers in the pie, so they just send the plans over to the factory and go back to playing with their nice fancy stem.
Its dumb and ugly. Rose did much better with the new Reveal( Hidden housing, standard stem)
First comment. Trek Domane and Cannondale Synapse had to be thrown in as well.
What about the roubaix?
@@tbrowniscool I don't find the bacl and front in sync
@@ronitdebnath how do you mean? My roubaix is so good and balanced.
@@tbrowniscool You can't say that without riding the others.
@@ronitdebnath just my opinion. Worthless I'm sure
You didn’t talk at all about the components on the Giant. Love the DI2’s and Ultegra components on my Canyon . What does the Giant come with?
Gedeon Preobrazhenskiĭ it comes standard with that model of the Canyon Endurace as well as the CFSL 8.0
Hey, that giant comes with this extra funky hydraulic whatever adapter on your stem for $3000. More aero right?
Giant for me have an old defy 3 and and new defy 2
Just curious guys, how come the new 2020 Domane doesn't feature in this line up? Cheers.
I don't think it made the top 5
Rob Lodge I think it was the price? The equivalent Domane with Di2 is huge money.
even more spacers on endurance bikes...
Anyone know if there is foot overlap with the front wheel with either of these bikes?
That would depend upon frame and foot size.
Ribble SL R
The review is not complete unless you compare the winner to the Trek Domane and the Specialized Roubaix.
The Canyon is now £4699 vs £3699 for the Giant
Canyon is Ultegra Di2 vs Giant mechanical Ultegra. Was that right...?!
Giant defy advanced pro 0 2019 is ultegra di2, plus has a power sensor.
i'd pick the Canyon, because the handlebars/shifters/cockpit look tighter, more compact;
Would change the front blades to 44/33 as i'm not that much of an athlete to do much with 50x11-12-13.
Not sure it can be done with 50/34 cranks/ultegra R8000FD but it worked well on a 36/46 ultegra 6800 crank.
Granted its only looks,but that wonky looking huge stem on the Giant,and big a$$ head tube,then the rest of the bike is skinny....Giant weighs more but not mentioned. ........regardless I just got a 2022 Endurace with Ultegra Di2 and its really sweet. 17.5 lbs is not bad and I will make it lighter. I stuck some carbon 45mm deep aero wheels on it I had around. Endurace is a lively fun bike.