Pokémon: The Indigo Disk with a side of salt
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In this video, Scott outs himself as never having had spicy mustard.
The problem is that if they specified that it was spicy (which it might of in the flavor text) it would have been fine to include it. If you're going through it quickly you probably won't get it is spicy mustard. But also the sprite for it looks like a yellow mustard bottle which isn't spicy.
@@ReelPodcastsI’m pretty sure the mustard description does mention its spicy
The main purpose of mustard is being spicy/hot.@@ReelPodcasts
@@ReelPodcasts in the trial it doesnt tell you but in game its classified as spicy
@@lyrin5644it literally just says an ingredient obtained during crispins trial
One thing as well, with the Teal Mask, the aforementioned Mask was a major item in the expansion, being the item needed to get Ogerpon who was important to the plot. Meanwhile the Indigo Disk was just an old DVD-R Geeta found that happens to be useful at some point one time and then is never mentioned again.
Terapagos itself is also an Indigo Disk though, as it gets the title in your battle with it.
I think what the person is getting at is Terapagos needs a key item that is reusable like Ogerpon’s masks
i mean, let's be honest, we all thought "the indigo disk" was referring to blueberry academy.
@@FScotsman4472which basically means they used that name 3 times and all 3 times were completely separate in so many ways.
Since them just saying terapagos caused the terastal situation yet it apparently can’t generate its own power makes me feel like they were trying to kitbash Zecora that electric cat anthro something, with Eternatus, since I think the former’s gag was not being able to generate its own electricity while eternatus simply existing caused the whole thing with Dynamax to occur.
Which is kind of stupid when they repeat the same formula twice, in a row also, for a single Pokémon to totally be why a gimmick exists, but it basically loses it in different entries, if they ever get it out of god damn region lock where I feel like eternatus won’t be allowed outside of galar for any future titles any time soon.
Which atleast the demonic looking dragon had a form to really sell it as a threat, terapagos having even LESS presence then ogrepon is sad and both were just forced to be cute’sie lookjng marketable plushies more then feeling like they can be legendaries in the first place, only logic likely being cause they are ‘one of a kind’ situation and they are heavily tied to a gimmick that they lose once they get transferred to another game.
Hell, I prefer when the gimmicks work more as extensions instead of Pokémon being strictly tied to the gimmick.
Since Xerneas and Yvetlal didn’t get mega evo forms, necrozma wasn’t specifically locked to Z moves, only using it to achieve his ‘actual form’ after he got a power source from Lunala or Solgaleo to likely give it the juice to achieve such a final boss form and atleast Eternatus looks menancing in its base form and could still use its ‘dynamax’ form thru its signature attack, though I assume if it got to come to scarlet/violet, they would of god damn swapped it with a red and black copy of dark pulse instead to ‘cut down on asset clog’.
I always like hearing which trainers were trouble for different people. Because I used a team made up of only pokemon added from indigo disk and struggled with crispin, and had a little bit of a hard time with the other 3... only to completely destroy Kieran with ease. It was strange? But I figure that Blizzard in snowscape with choice specs just kinda destroys his team lmao.
Using Ogerpon against Kiki in the final fight to be the BB champ is hilarious. He straight up says, " You've got some nerve... Bringing out the ogre NOW of all times?! " I made sure to toss her out on his last pokemon just to see if he would reach and Gamefreak did not disappoint (this time).
I led with Ogerpon and he immediately nuked her ass with Dragonite's Hurricane. That shit felt *personal* .
@@Bladehound83 Because it was. Kierans AI has an increased chance of targeting Ogerpon if she’s on the field, because he’s petty and doesn’t want to see you (the player) commanding her. Very fun quirk in his battle.
@@NokoTheTaco I got that part kinda spoil for me but I was able to take advantage of that A.I. with Spiky Shield and U-Turn, my Ogerpon never took a hit lol
@@Bladehound83Same but Ogerpan survived and healed up enough after One Shoting Politoed with Horn Leech.
Hard to believe they made the crybaby a worse character by turning him into a Sasuke style edgelord
The whole Terapagos thing felt so weird like 'oh we just finished the main BB story but we cant have a dlc without a legendary Pokemon so uhhhh here is a tera-turtle. Why is there a tera-turtle? Idk dont ask questions.'
Yeah your right. There's no explanation for Terapagos'e existence. Soe professor discover him in a cave, that's it! We don't know why he can terracrystalize or where he came from. Ogerpon has a story and it was interresting. The turtle is just chilling in a cave and can, apparently, time travel? There's details in the postgame when Pepper's parent return but it's confusing. I didn't understood everything, i'm just at the end of the Teal mask DLC now.
terapagos is just the anime legendary, like what happened with zygarge
It is awful. And fuck, if Kieran at least got to keep it it'd be cool. But no, you special baby, you need the lame legendary, he cant have it
Like, theres 2 Koraidon and Miraidon. Terapagos was already an excuse at best, just have there be a few.
The academy stuff i liked, i wish Kieran got to do something big though. But yeah I 5 of 6 major chars better than Nemona. Amaryllis is lame. Other than calling him Agias and being a shotacon
@@JoelTheParrot
Except Zygarde had NO impact on the X&Y plot, and then was added to the anime
Meanwhile Terapagos has already kinda fumbled Indigo Disc, and unless its already been confirmed somewhere I really doubt its gonna be big in the anime
@@An_Entire_Lime The main character has Terapagos in the smallest forme.
@3:51 In the post-game you get dialogue that confirms what this stuff was. It was actually water from the crystal pool, which is why Briar was collecting it in The Teal Mask, and soil from Paldea. These both contain very small fragments of crystals from Area Zero, which helps to stabillize the terastal phenonenon and allows pokemon in the terarium to terastallize.
Literally just Terapagos bathwater.
@@KaleidosXXI 😩😩😩
That and in the end when you leave the cave terapogos was in, Briar tells you herself that she snagged one of the larger crystals from the cave to allow pokemon in the terrarium to have access to stellar typing too, so that's another explanation for why it changed color and properties when you finish up the quest.
The best thing about this DLC is that you can Furret Walk
No way, real?
@@furretwalcc you can joltik bounce too :) (any dex mon)
*(Accumula Town theme intensifies)*
@@GedanJnope it works every single mon
@@liamrouen915 thats what i said♡
One thing Scott forgot to mention was THE MUSIC. Almost all the battle themes are remixes of B&W themes (cuz the academy is in Unova) and even the over world themes are sorta remixes of route themes, and some area specific ones like being able to hear Driftviel City Theme in the Coastal Biome. It’s just amazing as a B&W fan.
he also forgot, that this DLC is NOT the end of the game, theres a free update coming in a few days, that will have the ending, and will show the 4th pokemon of the teal mask trio
@@unknownunknown-cd7rx i don't think the epilogue was announced yet when this video was made. He did mention the datamines of the epilogue, but with nothing confirmed of course he didn't bring it up in much detail.
@@itskdog it was confirmed like a week+ before this video was posted(or well the trailer for it was posted a week+ before this video, idk if they confirmed or talked about it before the trailer dropped, but they probably did, so lets just assume 2 weeks+ minimum before this video was posted)
@@unknownunknown-cd7rxwell, it was certainly an interesting epilouge.
@@JediSteve-J3- and a huge meme😂
Just a note, the Terarium power source is explained at the end. It's full of Paldean soil and the crystals in the lake in Kitakami. They never go any further with the whole "BB being built on top of a plant" thing though, afaik
I will say, Indigo Disc’s battles actually gave me a challenge. I’m so used to just breezing through the battles in Pokemon games, but I almost lost to Drayton and Kieran.
It was nice to have an actual kinda challenge in a Pokémon game for the first time in ages. Last time I had trouble from the elite four and the champion was Steven.
That said I did enjoy the professor what's his face in gen 7 fight. But that game was kinda doing it's own thing.
The drayster didn’t really give me a hard time but holy hell did kieran. I had to get my team to 95 to even get close. The big problem was his porygon, as my whole team was defence heavy. (rookie mistake)
I didn't try it yet but yeah most of pokemon games are easy especially X and Y, Sword and shield, Sun and Moon. The last time i had a difficult fight was with N and Guetis in Black and White; i got the two games. No joke, it took me 9 times to defeat them! It was hard but so satysfying when i win. Same for Red in Soulsilver's postgame. It took me 8 times to battle him. Difficult but fun as well 🙂
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I genuinely still had a bit of a struggle with my pretty much all lvl 100 team
I didn't have any real problems with Kieran, but Drayton nearly wiped me. I was using the random 6 I caught for his trial then my normal team though
Game Freak needs to expand their staff roster. It’s a start.
Which may require some changes at Gamefreak, Matsuda for example has been quoted that he intentionally keeps the number low since he and other senior devs cannot manage and dislike large teams.
I dunno. It’s up to them to get more people, but bigger teams could make the games go in different directions than planned. Like what happened with Crash Bandicoot after WARPED, or Metal Gear Solid 5 with Kojima. Maybe one side wants an open world, the other wants linearity? Or maybe make a story like Insurgence for adults, or make one like X and Y for kids? If that is what they fear, I’d say it is justified.
@@coolyeh1017 In that case they should make smaller games and not charge as much (since they have less people to pay) for their broken, boring, programming equivalent of a dumpster-fire games
@@an_fiach they have made smaller games
They just went nowhere
The problems I’ve heard about getting new staff is that new staff have to be immediately trained to keep up the demand AND quickly learn to deal with the rushed spaghetti code that still has elements from the Game Boy Advance Gen 3 games in it.
Fun Fact: Geeta is now actually somewhat a threat, since they fixed her team composition, with Kingambit as her Ace and Rock Flower thing (I forgot the name) as her starting Mon which sets up Toxic Spikes everytime it gets hit
She also replaced Veluza and Gogoat for a mixed Dragapult and Bulk Up Chesnaught. (dunno why they kept Avalugg). It went from one of the worst to one of the better champion teams imo
The rock flower is called Glimmora
The worst part is it costs BP to unlock these battles and it takes forever to do so of toy dont have friends who bought the DLC.
That's good, still a shit character/champion.
Honestly it's really sad to see Gamefreak is pretty much stuck in a content cycle of constantly releasing games back to back without enough dev time. It's hard to get the anime, TCG, and merch to all coordinate if there's delays, and alongside TPCI wanting to maximize profits, lots of the time they're just forced to pump out whatever they finished because oftentimes the devs can't go "hey guys we need a few more months of dev time to enhance the performance of our game".
There is a lot of passion and attention to details in the small things (blastoise got a huge glow up, the dialogue kieran and carmine have about ogerpon during their fight, etc) but there's just not enough dev time or likely even people working on the pokemon games to fix the spaghetti code. Even PLA got delayed (which probably backed up everything else) and it still wasn't that polished on launch. I've had lots of fun with PLA and SV but I cannot deny that this content cycle of releasing mainline games every 2 - 3 games is seriously affecting the quality of the games.
Regardless of how fun they are, the game performing the way it does is a serious issue that TPC just won't address because they want to maximize profit over making the best possible game because I think a polished SV with some extra changes to performance and story cohesion would've 100% been the best game in the series.
Honestly, I don't think I've ever been as frustrated and angry with a Pokemon game, and it was mostly due to the perfomance issues and the pure lack of fixes.
I haven't spent any money on the DLCs for that reason. And as it's going, and as there's still people that keep defending them, the Pokemon Company and Gamefreak will not get their shit together.
I feel sorry for the devs that have to churn out games like this just to abide some ridiculous schedule.
My dawg, The Pokemon Company IS Gamefreak. They are the majority shareholders, they own it. They are their own boss. Maybe some of the devs have passion. But Gamefreak as a company is vapid and greedy.
@@chaotixthefox The Pokémon Company manages the Pokémon brand and is a 3 way investment deal between Nintendo, GameFreak, and Creatures Inc. Nintendo owns like a third of Pokémon while GameFreak and Creatures also own parts of the company (not positive how much they own). They also work with different parts of the brand (Nintendo distributes the games, GameFreak makes the mainline entries, etc).
The Pokémon Company can make deals with companies that have nothing to do with Nintendo, GF, or Creatures such as DeNA with Go, Unite with Tencent, Bandai Namco with New Pokemon Snap, etc. GameFreak *owns* part of TPCI but *it isn't TPCI* and while GameFreak isn't an innocent saint, I don't understand why GameFreak constantly gets dunked on when they're clearly not the only people making decisions.
Gamefreak just needs more staff, but they're afraid they'll "lose the charm" by bringing in new people.
You know what caused the games to lose their charm? Being barely playable messes that hurt to look at
@@Reisen_Inabawell it is more like the top executives don't know how to work with large teams and have no desire to improve on that front. Masuda (who is now moved to TPC) has been on record saying that he thinks big teams = too many cooks in the kitchen situation and that he avoids hiring new people. But in Gamefreak's case they need a lot more cooks to keep up with the demands of the customers.
The way you get Meloetta to show up is something a kid would come up with on the playground. It also gives another rendition of the best song in Pokemon.
A small info on the Mustard: There is spicy mustard that can get very spicy, but mild mustard is the most common type and most spicy mustard you can get in a regular shop are not too spicy either. You can tell it's spicier than the regular one and if you are not used to spicy food it can be quite spicy. The realy spicy variants you usually only get from delicatess stores in my opinion.
There's a brand where I live where it's a coinflip if their latest batch of mustard is mildly spicy or cough-your-lung-out spicy. Has a nice taste though.
in my country unless you go out of your way to get mild or sweet mustard you'll always get something a lot more similar in spiciness to wasabi, so much I had no idea sweet mustard existed until I visited the us as a teen (and no, I'm not from northen europe)
@@zt7044 To be fair, TID is set off the coast of Unova, the stand in for America and American Mustard isn't spicy.
I purchased the game half price and purchased the DLC so I got the whole experience for 60 bucks.
From what I read from exiting employees at Game Freak, two of the biggest problems that they have are:
A: Small staff
B: The insistence of using older technology to work on the current games
I genuinely felt that they peaked the 3DS's abilities, but ever since they jumped to switch, it felt like they are starting over from scratch.
The Legendaries aren’t locked behind biome upgrades. You talk to this guy called Snacksworth in the lobby, and he’ll give you items to be able to fight them if you do enough BBQs.
Just wanted to correct that. There are no Legendaries in the Teradome, and the leaked event coming soon has seemingly nothing to do with the Teradome, either.
Also, many of them are locked behind Group Quests, thus meaning if you want everything, you *need* to also shill for NSO
Uhm acktually, there IS a Meloetta in the Terrarium. Yes, he was likely referring to the Snacksworth legendaries, which you are correct on, but there IS a Legendary in the Terrarium.
@@ajbXYZcool um acktually, Meloetta is a mythical, not a legendary. This means that there are in fact NO legendaries in the Teradome
@@Mr.Amused um acktually, all mythicals are legendaries
Dahhh, all Mythical are part legendary
I feel immensely sad for Kieran. Over the course of two DLC we've done nothing but mindbreak and bully this kid, take everything from him, then gaslight everyone including the player that what we did was great.
What’s worse is some people ignore the main story, I felt like shit with all that happened to Kiki, he didn’t deserve that.
I know. It's great isn't it? How they're finally pointing possible detriments to everything revolving around the player character and then just doubling down on it anyway to break a child in real time?
Shame Game Freak probably won't go the obvious route and just make him an actual villain. Oh well. He'd just get stomped (again) anyway but that would be true even if he was just the rival too.
All for 2 legendaries that most of us box away unless you're playing competitive. And honestly they would just play Showdown since building a Pokemon is a pain in the ass.
I didn't even want Ogrepon, but the game said, "TAKE IT". A shame we couldn't just, I don't know, trade it to Kieran (not like it's one of the main selling points of the franchise)
We didn't do the bullying and mindbreaking, he did it to himself
Seeing the Synchromachine makes me have hope for some sort of new Mystery Dungeon game.
Because unlike Gamefreak, Spike Chunsoft actually knows how to make video games.
@@infinityheart_tm9270
And yet GF outsells them everytime.
I'm actually a PMD fan but let's not be delusional.
@@alexcoffey8804 Because GF realized long ago that they don’t need to try anymore. Which is incredibly sad.
@@infinityheart_tm9270 Even employees know this in their reviews of working with Gamefreak. Many in the tech department (not the creative department, those are super happy with Gamefreak), are incredibly dismayed about senior management, the senior devs literally a decade behind the industry, that all of Gamefreak's development tech just caught up to the Switch in 2022, the lack of note-taking, and the crunch/rushing but despite all these problems the games breaks records over and over again.
I used it with Iron Bundle and integrated myself into the Delibird hordes.
Legends Arceus is considered a mainline game, but I can see how it wouldn't feel like it. I also feel like the DLC for these games is pureley just gonna be "Do you want more of what the base game offered?" even if that means more performance issues apparently.
Even if it wasn’t it’s my favorite Pokemon game. Good story, likable characters and most important you can actually catch them all
I know there's a decent chance I'm wrong, but I don't think they can push much farther before Nintendo steps in about the quality. If the next gen is worse than SV we'll start to get into unplayable territory. I just can't see Nintendo letting that slide for a first party title no matter how profitable it may be. Hoping that's why ZA is being pushed to next year.
@@cameroncooper5941 ZA is already confirmed 2025 but we dont know what part right now.
@@Oslith I know, but ZA is apparently set in one city: not even a full region. I'm confident there's a timeline where ZA released this year if TPC really wanted it to. Though I guess there's still the Switch 2 rumors to consider...
7:40 Legends was a mainline game. It gave us 7 new pokemon and brought hisuian forms
Just a note that the only way to get manaphy back in the day was to play ranger.
And Meltan (and previously melmetal) were Pokemon Go only
The terrarium being under water is kind of pointless if you can't look up and see fish.
3:52 Unfortunately the actual answer is even more stupid then if gamefreak actually left it as a plot hole. If you go talk to Briar after getting the turtle she tells you that the Terarium Core is just Dirt from Paldea and the water from Kitakami. That's it. Also she added crystals from Aera Zero so now pokemon can be stellar types there...... yay....
I laughed when I saw this in game.
About the big shiny ball in the Terrarium, Briar says it is just full of soil from Paldea and that she added the water from Kitakami when she saw the lake in the last dlc.
And after the story she adds in crystals from the underdepths, hence wild Stellar Pokémon.
In other words it's earth soup.
Which is such bullshit. You walk into the terrarium and literally the first thing you hear is that there’s a mysterious energy source powering it. You don’t just write that detail without intending for it to be important, it’s so obviously something that was cut for time because TPC only gave them like a month to make this before they had to move on to making the next, somehow even shittier Pokémon game.
I was looking for this comment before posting it myself. It is pretty weak storytelling, but it’s an answer nonetheless. It’s so annoying when people complain about the writing when it’s just because they forgot to read. For instance, my bf predicted that Cassiopeia was Penny as soon as he beat the first star base because of one part predicting a kids game and one part “You’re talking to Cassiopeia and then Penny just randomly walks up? That’s really suspicious…”
6:41 I wouldn’t mind if the next mainline game fumbled so hard that they got negative reviews from critics if it meant they got their act together.
If this game got a nearly 10, every game will get one.
@@Jrpg_guy Bro, IGN gave the game a 6/10. At least do your research
@@misterzygarde6431 oh i just assumend ign did too, i have seen some other give it a 9 and besides i never mentionted ign gave it a 9, you just assumend i did.
Part of me thinks that if that happens they just won't make games anymore at all rather than 'risk a bad game causing their merch sales to tank'.
@@jonathanflanagan1504 That would be really stupid. I know Nintendo isn’t too involved with the Pokemon games but I doubt they’d want to lose a huge system seller.
I'm genuinely impressed that they somehow managed to make the game run WORSE than before.
Hah based
I'm not, because it's selling and that's the message that we are sending to them.
Well the base game has awful performance. Add a few thousand more and you'll start seeing where the problem lies
Players: "This is the worst looking Pokemon game I've ever seen."
Gamefreak: "The worst looking Pokemon game you've seen so far."
@@notmyrealname7163that quite neatly sums up pokemon since gen 5 (alola must have been a lone outsander apparently)
Yes master we farmed you the 10k BP....=P
It was fun running around while you were doing the story still.
Stellar type for competitive in a nutshell:
Pros: Its super effective to any opposing Terra type
Cons: Only boost one type per battle and it drops your offenses after usage. Also you remain the exact same type. In competitive, most players would prefer to cover their weaknesses via Terrastilization and Stellar type does absolutely nothing defensively.
Conclusion: Its meh and its a niche option at most. The stellar typing is a situational terra type to have but overall not a good option. You might as well just use the usual terra types.
I thought it's "once per type" per battle. So if you have 4 different types of moves you get 4 boosts to your hits no matter your actual type. But after that you just get STAB and
I can see that being effective for glass cannons/high damage output but outside of that I'm not too sure about the viability either.
Contrary Pokemon like Serpirior are the only few that benefit from this. And honestly I'm not sure if those Pokemon would choose it over the other Terra type.
@@owo4288 Contrary Pokemon would either run a defensive terra type or a terra type that boost their moves. It gives more benefit in the long run.
Most competitive players agree that Stellar type is both a meh and a niche option. Not a very optimal one.
Its not totally useless but when youre considered niche...well....you know... its meh...
Worth mentioning that the attack drop only happens when you use Tera Blast itself. Plus all the type damage bonuses are permanent during raids so just use Terapagos
Stellar tera type is really only decent in raids, and then only really good on Terapagos specifically, given how it changes to a form with a BST of 700 and it's signature move has more power with none of the drawbacks of Tera Blast.
The fact that my man was all "Yeah the DLC's mid.....OMG LARRY THE MESSIAH!" had me doubling over in laughter. But who can blame him. IT'S LARRY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
Thanks Scott!
Instead of spending money on the DLC, I'm going to spend money on you.
Chad
Money well invested
You just did what Nintendo would never do: Basically refund him for this subpar DLC. Based.
Hell yeah 😎
I mean-
Scott produces worse content than ever so I guess it doesn't matter.
@06:50 FINALLY SOMEONE ADMITS ITS THE FAULT OF THE DEVS AND NOT THE HARDWARE!
Also, a small team, rushed dev times, little to no open world game experience, and general mismanagement.
I'm just so sad because it always feels like they're so close to achieving the game's full potential and they just...don't.
...Also the peeps that are chalking up SV's general performance issues to the switch being weak is hard coping
Good lord do they need to stall for the next games. If we got nothing for 2 years i will be actively excited
They have a multimedia empire that's fundamentally built on selling every other product based on the release of the games. Putting the games on hold for 2 years means that's 2 years without new content for the anime, TCG, toy, etc to tie into.
@@KaleidosXXI I've heard that before and that is just BS. The pokemon company has plenty to work with, all they have to do is use the NINE REGIONS worth of pokemon creatively and they can definitely hold off for a few years.
@@KaleidosXXI they could do some spin off titles, some side content for existing titles, digital re-releases of older titles, give the anime more time to build before rushing to the next region, etc.
I'll agree that they are currently banking on the conveyer belt of new stuff, but they don't *have* to.
@@solanceDarkMOWremake the first season haha
At this point, S/V's future is very unclear. I feel like Game Freak's just going to take the money and run after the DLC stuff is done without fixing any of the game's technical issues.
Because fuck me, we can't go a single year without some major Pokemon game, right?
If they want to make Pokemon an annual or semi-annual franchise, then they need other supporting studios taking some of the weight off their shoulders. Have ILCA or maybe even Monolith take the reigns for some side games while Game Freak gets the time and resources it desperately needs to make the next major installment.
We had that kind of thing back in the day with Pokemon Colosseum/Gale of Darkness, so why does it seem like Game Freak/TPCI are hell-bent on sending them on this death spiral by giving them smaller and smaller development time? It's not sustainable.
Scott probably hasn't been back to the Crystal Pond in Kitakami with Terapagos yet, but then again...the game is very vague about that part. Regarding the BBQs, there should be a random option for Union Circle so that players can get the yellow BBQs necessary for the remaining Legendary Pokémon.
It is really weird that gen 9 has no battle tower equivalent. Like as someone who enjoys online battling theres nothing in the game to ease the transition from playing single player into online. You beat the game and then you grind the same battles over and over until you have enough money to set your team up for online battles. It's baffling.
I feel like Scott never had Proper mustard
Yeah, he should try one that makes cry just by sniffing it.
To be fair, TID is set off the coast of Unova, the stand in for America and American Mustard isn't spicy.
Mustard isn’t spicy. I’ve had Dijon mustard from Dijon, France and it’s not bad at all, just a little sour.
@@Raizan01It’s got the same chemical compound as horseradish and wasabi but in a far lower quantity.
@@IronDino Oh yeah, that one definitely isn't
I kinda think Scarlet and Violet are a mixed bag for me. Yeah it looks ok and adds a lot more experiences, but other than some of the remaining glitches, I wish the main game could at least have a lowered price if these new DLCs were going to be added on. I remember the days when Pokémon games were definitely less than $60 (around $30 according to what I saw) on release lol.
That's because they were on handhelds where the highest price you would get (on 3DS) was 40$
Gamefreak's dev team is having to juggle a higher-performance console, and the higher graphics expectations that come with it, along with even worse release schedules than what was given to them in the last console generation.
That’s mainly cause the DLC is supposed to be a replacement for the “third” game in the series like Platinum, Emerald, etc. Why buy a new $60 game for extra stuff when instead you can spend $30 for the same thing is their reasoning. Plus more people would be willing to buy an addition to a game they already have versus having to replay it.
@@flerken4233I’m sure plenty of people who bought the first version didn’t buy the 3rd, and vice versa. The DLC “forces” you to buy everything since, unlike the 3rd versions, it’s not 90% recycled content, but I have a hard time thinking it’s worth half the game’s price and 3/4 of what the 3DS games cost
@@emblemblade9245 I know plenty of people who bought the the third version along with the original.
Tbh, I was mad disappointed with the DLC content considering the main story segment from the Teal Mask, Kieran and Carmine's relationship which causes the former to become power hungry and withdraw, while the latter regrets her harmful behaviour, was 'resolved' by just the player character beating Kieran, him and his sister doing text-to-no-speech-cuz-there's-still-no-voice-acting crying. No retrospective between the two siblings, no talk, just an underwhelming conclusion to one of the more interesting dynamics Pokemon has created.
The other thing that makes me sad is how a lot of plot points built up from the base game such as whoever attacked to Arvin week's dog, an extended answer into the truth of Paradox Pokemon, the relationship between Heath, Terapagos, and Professor Sada/Turo are just not mentioned, while things like Carmine and Kieran's dynamic, and the return of the Area Zero trio (Nemona, Penny, Arvin) weren't done to their greatest potential.
Whatever questions we had from the base game that was purposely left unanswered was either ignored, or given the most unsatisfying half answer that was revealed in the most lukewarm in-game cutscene ever with no buildup to it cuz that's what this franchise is used to when it needs to info dump I guess.
Not to mention how the game still has loads of frame rate and bug issues, but seeing how we'll be getting another adventure with them in January gives me hope that maybe at the very least, we will have a somewhat satisfying conclusion to this Gen, if not than hopefully just an entertaining one.
"Welp, time to play Pokemon fan games!"
Wait until they announce a 3D Mystery Dungeon game now that they "tested the waters" with the synchro thing... wouldn't that be something?
Worse part is, most of it ends up getting an answer...in Masters EX....most plot in the main game series ended up getting their answers completed on a separate Gatcha mobile game....
I also feel like there just wasn't a good or interesting conclusion to many different plots in the game, especially the Kitakami siblings. I like Carmine, one of my favourite characters in the game but that doesn't change the fact that she was a terrible sister to Kieran and that just doesn't get addressed. I really wanted some dialogue where Kieran actually calls out his sister for constantly putting him down and only seeming to show concern when he changed partially due to her followed by Carmine genuinely apologizing, understanding what she's done and how she's made Kieran feel. That would've been a good first step to them reconnecting and bettering themselves. Me beating Kieran and us teaming up to fight Terapagos fixes *our* beef, not their's.
I wish they handle it better regarding how Indigo Disk end. There's no apology from MC and Carmine, instead Kierran has to say sorry to MC and his sister eventhough he harm them the least and they are the main reason why he goes down this route. Not to mention I don't feel worthy getting Terapagos, espicially since I know most of us beside competitive player would just box it, probably along side Ogerpon.
I laughed when I got to the part where the game is showing you the world you’ll be exploring and the SECOND the each part of the world shows up, the rendering glitches start.
Like “yep, we still continue to have this issue even after two DLCs.”
I believe my biggest problem with the DLC is that it adds content, and doesn't actually fix the major problems of the game.
It’s been over a year any hope for fixes died already
This is my issue with it as well and why I'm not bothering to buy it. Honestly going back to Sword and Shield feels more rewarding than what I've seen from this DLC.
thats not the responsibility of a dlc
dlc are meant to add content
@@dayvonlouis5187never experienced any of the bugs so I don’t understand any of the hate and stuff
@@CeruleanRogue Must be frustrating for competitors though as they HAVE to buy the DLC in order to even have a chance of winning sanction tournaments.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt underwhelmed with the DLC. We hear about the Terestal phenomenon and how it has led to the advancement of a time machine that later leads to a professor getting killed. From it, Area Zero had became such a dangerous ground that it was made off-limits. But when we encounter Terapagos, the Pokemon behind it all, it felt really anti-climatic. It doesn't really seem like a threat. Sure, it broke Kieran's masterball, but not much else really happened. I felt they should have made Briar and/or Kieran the antagonists of the DLC, rather than to have them just say "Oh I'm sorry I did this I simply just misunderstood". However, that's just about what you could expect with these rushed, not even half-baked games.
Those negative things were outside of Terapagos awareness and control, there was never an indication the Terastal Phenomenon had anything inherently antagonistic about it. It's just energy Terapagos emits.
I was genuinely so excited to see how they would pull off Briar as a villain, since she certainly looked evil in the promo art that released like a week before the DLC, and then you get to the end and she's just like "ohh sorry I took it too far :(" it was super disappointing
You know Scott is disappointed when he doesn't even bother to do 1 tiny animation on his salt.
0:43 *I'M SORRY THE WAY YOU CALLED KIERAN KYLO REN ABSOLUTELY BROKE ME*
Not to be that guy, but I’m glad to see it’s exactly what I expected. Something that could have all been put into one game, but was rushed to hell and back with everything else thrown into a 35 dollar DLC pack
Man, I had the exact same belief when the season pass was announced and yet, the small part in my brain and actually believed in the hype that maybe, just maybe, this $35 DLC bundle could have not just been worth it, but actually deliver on even half of what all the fans were ~~~coping~~~ speculating and theory crafting about. It's a shame but, looks like all that talk when the game released about all the great stuff about ScVi was just overly enthusiastic interpretations coupled with ross-tinted glasses.
It hurts to say that pessimism won in the end but for this franchise, it looks like being overly cautious is the only safe way to deal with a studio that clearly doesn't care anymore.
@@ssj4922it’s pretty shameful and disappointing when you remember how well beloved this franchise is. Fans would go nuts if they put out a finished game with decent performance- imagine if they put thought and care into it.
The problem, as others have pointed out, that "fans will go nuts" even with all of the glaring issues, so Pokemon Company will keep crunching their devs until they break.@@beeziebubs2756
@@beeziebubs2756 Thing is they've never put thought or care into their games, and have never been competent with coding or graphics. It's just a lot more noticeable now because they switched off heavily stylized handheld games so they're faced with actual standards from people. Most of the big coding improvements they made over the franchise's life were done by outsourced Nintendo employees they borrowed.
Perhaps actually play it? I was surprised by both the teal mask and indigo disk. They were both enjoyable, had cute character interactions, and had a lot of time of side content. And the battles in indigo disk could actually be challenging if you had a team that wasn't insanely overpowered. The elite 4 and Kieran all had items on their team, had high levels, and had actual thought put into synergy. One good example of this is Drayton's sceptile which has unburden, weakness policy, and acrobatics.
3:07 HELP OGREPON'S NAME??
Critical hit high roll on mental stability
@@matthewtwitter5172 Mine with Wellspring Mask and using his Politoed's Rain setup against him One Shot his Incineroar.
Kieran: WTF!!!!
I loved how immediately waking up the tortle looks at the player like “mama.”
I do agree on how the Terapagos section of the DLC felt out of place. We don’t even fight new Paradox Pokémon for some reason. The legendaries are post game.
It just seems weird to me we left Paldea for these adventures but it unceremonially took us back to Paldea for the finale. There was no real connection between The Teal Mask and Indigo Disk aside from Kieran, Carmine, and Briar. Ogerpon doesn’t even play a role with its masks. It just seems like that could have been tied together better.
And wtf were they thinking shiny locking the legendaries? The Dynamax Adventure ones let you shiny hunt. It’s a long process but you could do it. Now it’d be easy to do it but nooooo. F you, GameFreak. I heard someone say “I love Pokemon, I hate GameFreak” and that’s where I’m at.
This is where I’ll disagree with you on tho. I have no problem paying the DLC price. It added more content to the game and that’s how it should. It’s not like gotcha games and micro-transactions, they gave us beefy DLC. You’re paying for BOTH DLC in one price too. It’s not like they made us buy it separately.
But still, should be patched. The performance was bad. They don’t know how to optimize.
Oh? Am I close to first?!
0:38 ... ... ... So they made the game run WORSE?!?!?!?!?! HOW?!
By putting you in the Savannah Biome. Every other Biome is nowhere near as weird
LETS GO GAMEFREAK
BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE
Happened to sword and shield too
Imagine what a better world we would be living in if mainline Pokemon game’s released a new generation every 4 years instead of 3. Sure they’d still probably pump out dlc and spin-offs/remakes every year or so, but the time they have to make the mainline games would actually allow both the game AND the livelihood of the devs to improve
Meanwhile Monster Taming Indie Devs:"Want a complete running game we have those."
Well, to be fair, if you battle Geeta at the Ace Tournament after this DLC, her team becomes pretty strong (She finally has her Glimmora as her first and Kingambit as her last.)
Gordon Ramsay: Scott were is the mustard, you can’t have a bloody sandwich without some mustard in it.
2:55 I am sure a lot of us tried to hit on Lacey
4:42 if you know the reference, congratulations! You are older then the Pokémon franchise itself. 😰
I'll say this, the battles in this DLC were extremely fun, i missed doubles.
I can’t wait for the yearly slop next year. Gotta catch em’ all!
(Except for the pokemon who didn't make the cut and are unavailable)
“Come on my children I have the gruel prepared for you” - game freak
I love how they got rid of the "Gotta Catch Em All" slogan because you can't anymore.
Guys you could never catch them all outside of the first 2 gens, you could transfer them all in but you couldnt catch them all
"Gotta catch Some of them"
Honestly I got all my favorites ones either on Brilliant and Scarlet nice and secure. I might discontinued my Pokemon Home rent and skip the next generation now
Honestly i feel like if they had just expanded more on kitakami it would’ve been better cause, like, the blueberry academy is just kind of there, you don’t even catch terapagos there because of course you don’t. Kitakami, while bland-ish scenery had a better story than most of the base game.
3:42 Briar does explain that this core contains Paldean soil, water from Kitakami's Crystal Pool, and now crystal samples from the Underdepths. Why they waited until literally the end of the story to say this or whether that's more or less interesting than Terapagos powering the core, I'll leave up to debate.
I always hear that people are having issues with cutscenes and stuff- but I never have these game-breaking problems people say is commonplace. It runs mostly smoothly for me and I have an OG switch that’s like- 4 years old by now. Also- I really feel like the 2 DLC should have just been one MASSIVE DLC. Considering the Indigo Disk arc relies so heavily on the Teal Mask arc. It also would have allowed them to be able to probably have more time for polishing the game.
On the topic of the flight trial being like Superman 64: after the game explained the controls to me for flying, the mini game starts and my controls have been reverse to standard flight simulation controls (up goes down and vice-versa) completely counter to the games own instructions. I get halfway through somehow but when I get too off course I restart the challenge and only *then* does the game play as instructed.
3:00 Don't you mean Chef White Boyardee? I'm sorry, but the pun was right there.
A performance patch is the only thing holding it back from a recommended, complete purchase, in my opinion.
And I'm sure the QoLs of PLA didn't come over because both titles were developed around the same time, so they picked and chose what was shared and what they were going to do different.
I like rewards for pokedex progress in SV, hated the speed/priority system of PLA, shiny hunting is real easy in SV, hut the shiny sound is so necessary (but also debatable, because some people went mad by it, haha)
Game freak really needs to be given more then like a year to make these games, like let them have a 5 year cycle, and we willl finally get good games
Gotta love how Scot has only had Ameican mustard and it shows
I mean it's a yellow squeeze bottle and it's Japan, that's the mustard they use predominantly.
I’d be less annoyed if the dlc was just free updates
Technically speaking, there is still an epilogue coming out next month, so this isn’t the end.
No, the orb is just Paldean dirt and water from the crystal pool in Kitakami.
That being said there are 3 good items up there.
People need to talk about how yearly releases are causing so Manny problems
People have since like sun and moon. Problem is people still buy them because "Yay pokemon, let me keep burning money for game freak." unless game freak has a game tank in sales nothing will ever change.
Yearly releases is what is killing Pokemon.
3:50 not a lot of people know this, but briar says, after you complete the game, that the core is made up of Paldean soil and water from the Crystal Pool. She also recently added crystals from the under depths.
It's part of the main line of dialogue. the only way people don't know people don't know this is that they did finish it
Indigo Disk. With some salt on the side.
Thumbnail Girl looks cute.
Clay’s daughter. Meaning if Unova remakes are next, we have to see at least Clay mention his wife or an infant daughter.
What two one year deadlines do to a mf
Someone needs to send game freak some barbecue with death sauce.
This is pretty much how I felt. Such a mix bag of feelings. I love this series, I liked paying these games, I love the battling, but I can’t deny the lack of quality and how rushed areas feel, yet I still gladly hand over my money for it.
Hydrapple is definitely one of the best Pokemon I've seen in a long time I genuinely love it!
Shame that it and Archaludon weren't included in the base game
Great job on the new video scott! It was a blast meeting you yesterday!
cant wait to see the next game forced out by holiday next year!
It amazes me that there were some plot points that they just never went back on that I think they are going to in the next like “epilogue” thing releasing sometime in January I think.
You’re not early, you’re on time
0:42 "Where Kylo-Ren has taken over. You know, after you mind-broke him the last game by being a giga-chad that makes his sister and Ogrepon weak in the knees."
I cracked up on that one. That was a good funny line. But, you always had really great zingers in these videos.
Happy Holidays Scott and Viewers
Have a lovely rest of the year!
Don't forget the $2.00 tax.
The true conclusion of the DLC that happens after you catch Terapagos and head somewhere specific elevated this from being fun if buggy to my second favorite Generation of all time. Indigo Disk was so fun to play.
WhT’re you talking about here? I’m having trouble understanding the latter half of the first sentence. “Hear somewhere specific”?
@@frownyclowny6955I'm assuming they meant to say head somewhere specific, if you take terapagos to the crystal pool after getting briar's book then you get a secret cutscene
@@Devndapplin Bingo
@@Devndapplin I have to know, is there ANYWHERE in the game that tells you this, or did you find it on the internet via word of mouth?
@@cam3127Nope, absolutely zero indication in game. Someone probably datamined the DLC to find the code for the secret interaction cause it's way too coincidental to be something that happens on accident
They set up so much at the start and it kind of went no where, terapagos had so much potential
"Made His sister and ogerpon weaken the knees "
Aside from cut-scenes, I found the game works fine while in handheld mode (I also never used the Union Circle)
They can’t keep getting away with this!
Sadly we all know gamefreak is already working at the new title for 2024 no matter how poorly optimized it will be, because this is now a cashcow and it will be milked until every pokemon fan is fatigued.
In which Game Freak solidifies it's role as Nintendo's answer to Microsoft's Bethesda.
I want to die.
Ya know after watching another streamer play Superman 64 I’m glad I understood the joke. Legit made me spit choke. Thx Scott 😂
Hey he might have been hard to get but LittlestBoy the Shiny Joltik is amazing and chat loved him. …I can’t remember his actual name.
I remember seeing some dialogue by either the president of the bb academy or by Brair post DLC that said the center of the terrarium contains soil from paldea and water from the crystal lake of kitakame. They say that before saying they add crystals found from Area Zero Underdepth and make the ball rainbowish instead of green so you can encounter stellar types in wild.
To answer your question, Stellar Tera Type is mostly just a niche option. Pokemon with the Contrary ability, or ones that focus on alot of coverage options to do damage can make use of it, but the fact that it offers no defensive utility means that it can safely be ignored by most Pokemon.
Not useless, but not something you're going to be slapping on every Pokemon to sweep teams.
The fact that the DLC is built around being separate for both versions instead of being for either one is full on scum and don’t get me started on the fact it’s 90$
It ain’t worth that much let alone the price of the base game
I straight up refuse to believe Briar wasn't supposed to be evil. Her expression in the promo art, her absolute obsession with Heath's research, the way she acts when you're actually in Area Zero, she encourages Kieran's worsening mental state, and her kinda concerning line once Kieran catches Terapagos...
"Now I can study Terapagos whenever I want..."
She's just super excited and a bit obsessed, not evil. I never thought she'd be evil, and I'm glad she wasn't.
so agree w p much everything said but something that wasn’t even mentioned is that there was basically no perrin side quest. she just told you to finish the most of the dex so you can literally catch the last 2 legendaries. they have no plot significance, also nothing happens in chargestone cave (i wanted a similar sequence there to the one in teal mask ☹️).
Scott ending the year with being extra salty… glad he is still doing these kinds of videos
Don't forget to go to the Crystal Pool in Kitikami after you finish the dlc "story" btw. I wish they'd hinted to do that... but it's worth it
they technically do, but you have to go out of your way to even find the hint. like dont get me wrong, reading the professors journal in the new underground gets some nice lore, but alot of people dont bother to try and read it.
honestly im not even sure if you can read it the first visit as i only found it on the 2nd visit to look in some small sections i didnt look in.
You can read the journal entry about the Crystal Pool in the underdepths entrance. I definitely read it the first run through.
Calling Lacey cute is the closest we'll ever get to a flirting/dating mechanic in Pokémon 😔
The BW visual novels seemed pretty close tho
The Dropped Item sidequest from BW2 is the closest we've gotten.
A fun part about this DLC is that it’s filled with so many gen 5 references
It's pretty ironic your take on the spicy thing when you think mustard can't be spicy lmao
Did you know Pokémon violet runs slower than scarlet because of the particles miraidon emits when you dash they slow down the frame data and by extension the game itself which could explain all the slowdown your experiencing because I personally have never had too many slowdown issues only like 4 times throughout my entire play through
Welp, atleast in the time between this DLC and the nex game, we might get a new PMD annoucement. Thats pretty much all I've got left in this franchise to be hopeful for lol.
After the Teal Mask I was actually looking forward to this part. Unfortunately, Indigo Disk is a pretty weak fallow up. The BB League story is the main event but it ends up feeling like filler since Kieran’s arc isn’t resolved until you go back to Area Zero. It’s also really disappointing that your friends from the base game aren’t there for the finale. I’d of loved to see Nemona’s reaction to Terapagoes.
fun fact if you don't put the bread on top for crispin's challenge he says "I'm a bit surprised you didn't put bread on top, though, Is that a paldean thing...?"