I Finally Got Ford’s New Truck and Here’s What I Really Think of It
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- Ford Lightning truck review. I Finally Got a New Ford Lightning and Here's What I Really Think of It, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Buying a Ford Lightning. Are Ford trucks worth it? Buying a new Ford Lightning pickup truck. Buying a used Ford Lightning. Should I buy a Ford? Are Fords reliable? The truth about new Ford electric trucks. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 56 years.
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what a rolling pile of crap is what i know you will say
I’ll be honest. When you live in a place like California, where it is not uncommon to see gas nearing $7 to $8 Per gallon during Summer and fall months, even the inflated electricity we pay, it still saves driving this thing. I do have one, but also have a Duramax Diesel 3.0, which is excellent on fuel. But for distances with 100-150 miles, the Lightning can be a great option.
So basically it's just a gigantic golf cart.
I'mma be honest you shouldn't have an electric car if you don't have a house or somewhere to charge it at home that just sounds like a bad idea lol
Yep nobody wants this electric sh*t in the Hood, ask how I know...
You shouldn’t have one in general
its a scam..liberal one
Always thought that back in the day when I'd see a trailer with a couple jetskis or a Ski boat parked at a apartment complex.
In major cities there are car charging stations, so it can be viable. Especially if your work has one in its parking garage or something.
Still a valid point. 3 days to charge at his apartment. That’s crazy. Good thing this guy is just leasing it.
Many people own pickup trucks and tow once or twice a year. If they can charge at home, buy it. Or wait until it has a NACS port and 250kW speed so that it can be charged at any Tesla Supercharger, which is very very reliable and fast.
When Scotty said, "It fell off" reminds me of Ron White's act when he was talking about how Sears Automotive Center did the same thing and forgot to tighten one of his wheels. He said the same thing but added an expletive to his sentence.
I love my 2023 Maverick Basic (LX) Hybrid. Inexpensive and 40+ MPG so far in mixed driving.
I agree. I like the Mav so much I bought 2 that I show on my videos. Both for a lot less than 1 Lightning.
At least the Ford dealerships are consistent... I took my 2015 F-250 in for its oil change and tire rotation. When I got home, just for giggles, I put my torque wrench on a wheel and all the lug nuts were torqued to 80 ft-lbs. Spec is 160 ft-lbs for my vehicle. When I brought this to the service manager's attention, I got no apology, only the explanation that they must have used an F-150 torque tube instead of the F-250 one. He said if I brought it in he'd be glad to re-torque all the lug nuts. Duh???? Why would I do that if I'm checking my vehicle with my own torque wrench? I've never been back.
Apparently, they (the Ford dealership) don't care that their Tech didn't do what he was supposed to do. Sad!
The Ford dealership lied to you. Just put my winter tires on my 2015 F 150. Tire torque is 150 lbs.
But im curious,why dont you do your own oil changes? You save money, and you csn use better oil and a better filter ,and you know its done right
had one mechanic leave fluid hose loose and pump bolts lose all in one day, another mechanic left a spark plug pinched in between a head gasket, can't win
@@richsweeney1115 sucker is born everyday) it applies to you with better oil crap.. all oil in USA is the same, as long as it has that seal stamp it meats oil quality, and there is no such thing as better oil. I use cheap Walmart oil centerthech in my ford vans and bothe of them crossed 500K miles mark on original engines.. but if you want to be a sucker go buy most expensive oil such as a Mobil 1 or racing crap.. looll.
I love my lightning. I've owned mine for over a year. Now 20k miles later and I have jave no regrets. I charge at home with a level 2 charger mostly. From 0-100% costs about 10 bucks. It really is an awesome ride.
"short and curly's" I have not heard that in many years. love it!
My mother once drove home 10 miles from the garage with loose lug nuts. “My car is shaking!” Gee, I wonder why! I tightened them up for her and I don’t think she ever went back there.
I work on a ford lot myself. We got one in July of this year and in November, it’s still here! We at one point had 2 of them on the used lot that were trade ins (one was a 22 and the other was a 23). We sell the regular f150s like hotcakes but not the lightning.
The type of people that get excited for trucks, and the type of people that get excited for electric vehicles are not the same. I can see why Ford made it, but it should have been obvious from the begining that they were going to sit on lots.
@@fluxcap4630 yep. I completely agree. And the fact that Consumer Reports rated it as the most unreliable new vehicle you can buy is crazy because the thing has about 5 moving parts. How you mess that up so bad is actually impressive
@@jordanseay216 🤣
The only thing I actually like about these trucks are their lockable storage space and torquey acceleration. Aside from that I’ll stick with gas for as long as I can. The hybrids are okay.
If Ford was smart, they would use an actual engine as a generator that would charge the batteries which would allow the electric motor go for much, much longer. Something like RAM will be doing. Good concept but I prefer a gas powered truck. Also Jim Farley took a road trip in the F150 EV and he didn't like it lol
So I see this truck is registered in Pennsylvania with two inspection stickers. One is for the inspection and the other, being an electric vehicle, is an "emissions exempt" sticker, for which the driver had to pay $19 to get. Only in Pennsylvania, do we have to pay for emission exempt stickers on electric vehicles, or any vehicle driven less than 5K annually... what a state.
Or you can just buy an ICE vehicle :) and live in a county that doesn't require emissions haha :D They get you one way or another tho.
🎵 You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel... 🎵
OMG now that song wil be stuck in my head THANKS
Eh nice...nice 🤠
When I saw Scotty had made a review on the Lightning, I clicked on it so fast 😂
There is a paradigm shift one needs to wrap one's head around on this. You, if like us, and you have the room, CAN HAVE A GAS STATION IN YOUR BACKYARD! Six months after we got ours, we installed an offgrid 3.6kw solar array with 10kW of batteries, with a 48v 6kW hybrid inverter/charger, which we use to charge the Lightning through the Charge Station Pro. That, after rebates, will have cost around $4k. We also installed a 12k Btu Mini-split in the garage two weekends ago, that also runs off the 3.6kW of Solar. What we didn't expect was, when we run the mini-split, which is pretty much all the time, and open the door to the garage to the house, it cuts our House electric use by around 20kW per day in May so far...helping out the house AC. Long story short, I get 400 sq/ft of man cave that is cooled, AND, the mini-split is likely going to cut our electric bill by $500/yr. All told, this system will likely pay for itself in 3-4 years, and then we'll be getting essentially free fuel, and be paying $13 electric bills for the next 20 years, until the panels and batteries may be down to 80% efficiency. Obviously, you need the room in your backyard to install 10 x 360 watt panels, and the $5500 upfront cost on the solar array/batteries. Per the Towing, you'd have to define "you can't tow" We have an autocross course we run 65miles away, and the lightning can tow a 3000lb car on a 2500lb trailer round trip without an additional charge, so works for my towing use case. We've had the Lighting for a year and half, put 10k miles on it, and haven't ever used a fast charger where we have to pay.
Bought a Tundra Hybrid three months ago and we love it!
If you have a Tesla Model 3 and charge it at home in your garage during off-peak hours, it costs $9 to go 300 miles.
Millions of Americans don't have the privilege of a personal garage
25% of vehicles the require charging will collapse the electric grid
@@Argedis Stop with this absurd Garage nonsense. My Level 2 Charger is outside just like Public Chargers. You just need a private place to permanently park.
@@Neojhun It's not nonsense and most people without a garage can't even park right next to their home even if they have one.
Do you want them to to run an extension cord to the street through sidewalks? To the parking lot?
You're the one being absurd. Since you have your own private place to charge you don't really care about other's problems.
How many miles in northeast in February?
I have three cars. 15 years old, 21 years old, and 25 years old. All well maintained and run fine. Buy and hold as long as you can probably does more for the environment by not getting new cars every 6 or 7 years than all the crackpot electrification nuts. If you look at the life cycle of electrics from mining of lithium through disposal of dead batteries, probably not much of a friendly environmental impact overall.
Have you noticed that every time Scotty drives an EV he always remarks about how fun it is to drive? There's nothing nutty or crackpot about owning a vehicle that's fun to drive.
Oh I'm sure they are a blast to drive. But how much cost and inconvenience is that fun worth to you? Especially when fun gas options still exist. @@dansanger5340
@@dansanger5340 A GT250 is fun to drive but I wouldn't own one.
Ev are a big joke I don't believe they would last 206000 miles plus and be on 12 years
Environmentally speaking it doesn't matter how long you personally own an EV because it will still be on the road with the next owner.
EVs "pay off" the higher carbon production cost of the battery, ICEVs never do, the more ICEVs are driven the worse they are for the environment. Environmentally speaking the best thing to do for an ICEV is to crush it and recycle it into an EV. Of course that's not the best thing for the owner economically.
Battery disposal is not an issue, batteries are first repurposed for stationary storage, and ultimately recycled at the end of their second life. Battery recycling companies are able to recycle >90% of a battery. So everything that is being mined (once) can be used again and again in future generations of batteries. Thus the environmental cost of these future generations of batteries is also much much less.
I turn the volume down and just watch Scotty's hands. Fantastic energy. Liked the video.
Great video Scotty. Very informative and to the point! I would look elsewhere also.
Honda is cancelling their EV efforts with GM. Toyota exec says EV market is not where it's at for a profit.
Acura is coming with ZDX based on the ultium platform and Honda is also coming up with a mainstream cousin next year. I don’t know what you are talking about.
@@JTR253Proof read, again.
@@JTR253maybe they were and changed plans...maybe they backed out of plans with GM..hopefully
Love my Tesla. I have a 240 charger in the garage
" ... recall their mechanic too"
I really do not like the crew cabs that are so common now days. Just a simple bench seat is fine. Years ago, I had a '79 F150 4x4 with a 400ci V-8, & man, that drank gas like no tomorrow... Love your videos, Thank you so very much :-)
That what I don't like about these trucks now days it is like a suv which a little bed that you need to have trailer bend it to haul
I have a friend that got stuck in Florida because they couldn’t find a vacant charger. They had to stay overnight!!
I'll take events that never happened for $800 Alex....
A handyman buys an expensive fully electric pickup truck for business and is incapable of installing a cheap level 2 charger at his house. Now I’ve seen it all. 😂
Maybe he rents, right?
Scotty says right at the start ... he doesn't have a house.
He didn't buy the truck, he is leasing it. Also, he probably lives in an apartment complex.
And if you own a house and don't have a garage, often a 220VAC 50amp pigtail out in the open lawn or driveway violated city or county electrical codes.
My daughter lived in a quaint turn of the century traditional village with few garages. However they are wealthy, trendy yuppies...so they buy EVs. I have seen orange extention cords or romex staked with wire stakes out the side windows and onto the driveway or parking pad...with a charger cobbled onto a wooden post. Sometimes a quick trench to bury it raw. Also just loose extentions strewn out.
I also see the city utility meter readers and electrical inspector red tagging the plug and taping citations to the front door.
Many jurisdictions don't allow cowboy setups for 40 or 50 amp boat plugs in yards.
for a lease?
If you live in a city and do a lot of stop and go I don't see a problem. Charge it at the house is a must. Few things to consider though: you won't be traveling far, especially in the winter so be advised. The battery has a limited life span and will need to be rebuilt or replaced. The harder you drive it and the more the abs, stereo, heat, ac ect are used the less range you have- everything runs off of electricity so when it's cold outside and raining the car has to use more juice, which is less range.
Awesome information!!!!!!!
Scotty, you have just reinforced my feelings of electric vehicles. No thanks! Thanks to your channel I bought a 2018 Avalon used in 2020. A 28,000 mile vehicle for 60% of it’s original price. I have had to buy tires, oil and filters. That’s it! Runs perfectly!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! We appreciate you!
I bought my dad an Avalon recently. They're great cars. I also got my son a new Rav4 XLE Hybrid for graduating college. It gets 41 mpg,, has all-wheel-drive, and rides really nice.
@@zzanatos2001 Can't go wrong with a Toyota....my wife and I have been married for 33 years and that is all we have owned and she and her family owned all Toyota's before she met me. The one exception is my F-250 Super Duty (gasser) that we use to pull our 5th wheel. If Toyota had made a 3/4 ton truck when I bought this Super Duty in '17, I would have bought it. Toyota could have named it the Grand Tundra HD or something like that.
If you have two vehicles (yes a luxury), or just need a car that does 90% commuting EVs are awesome. They are quite on the road and will save you money in the longterm. But that is only for smaller sedans. Large Evs are worthless. So if you are someone who needs a truck. Stay far away.
Gutter quality content here... Scotty knows his viewer base will suckle that sweet teat of EV-hate. Have fun sucking, boys!
@@kckettridgeNO COMPLAINTS WITH MY SUBARU FORESTER AND MY CROSSTECK 💪🏼😎🥳 EITHER 🎉
Salt mixed with sugar beet "byproduct juice" - atomizes more, holds moisture (stays wet), and sticks to your car like crazy.
That`s sounds awful! I think that`s something Or. Hwy. dept. is supposed to begin using soon.
Pretty stinky too. But it allows salting to be done early and not wash away. Very bad for car metal and easy of cleaning.
Today for the first time I've riden in a EV the F150 lightning on a test track I was highly impressed. The acceleration 0 to 60 in 4 sec is sick especially for a pick up. The handling while aggressive driving equally impressive. Its been a true opener and my skepticism almost all gone for the exception of the battery life and charging networks. Other than that performance was great and so was comfort it literally felt I could live in there thats how comfortable and spacious it was
I can't speak for anyone else but I do not have time or want to be subjected to sitting at a charging station when I easily get gas and whatever else I need at a gas station and I'm out in 5 minutes or less. The only reason manufacturers invested so heavily was "TAXPAYER" subsidies. I am of the opinion that these are only glorified complicated golf carts.
Wise up America, you're being played. Thanks Scottie.
Reminds me of the period when Obama ordered that all those older than late model cars off the road, in a way it was sort of a bail out for the big 3, I don't feel like a lot of those newer cars were much of an upgrade, not seeing how much more unreliable a lot of the "more modern" cars are becoming, what's the term, ________ obsolescence, my memory really sucks!
@@andrewphillips8790 Obama didn't "order" any vehicles off the road. There was a program where older vehicles were being taken off the road and scrapped and you got a credit towards a new one. No one forced anyone to give up anything.
People forget that there are massive improvements to cars over time. Besides better fuel economy, there are massive structural and safety upgrades making the car far safer in a crash.
In fact, data is showing that a large portion of serious injuries and deaths in traffic accidents is due to people driving older cars with obsolete crash safety standards and lacking modern safety upgrades.
Lot's of room in the front trunk for a gas generator lmao
And you’re gonna need it!
That's what Ram is thinking with their Ramcharger model...
You make some excellent points that as an owner and car reviewer and content creator I can attest to the truth to loosing half range when towing and loosing half range when it's freezing cold out
Gotta pre-condition in the cold. First gen problems...
This is nothing new. While I enjoy his videos he hasn’t actually lived and used the lightning. Can’t take some of his thoughts seriously when they actually don’t use the thing. I’ve road tripped, done my day to day drives, etc and I love it. Only downfalls compared to gas is longer road trips (this doesn’t bother me), yes cold weather really hurts range (do you not know how batteries work?) I don’t tow, but if you tow locally this is still a better option.
I once went to BJ's to buy and have installed four tires. Upon leaving their parking lot my car felt like it was going over bumps even while the roadway was smooth. I immediately went back only to find out that none of the lug nuts had been tightened. Lat time I went there.
A Lariat lighting is $70,000. A 4Runner TRD off-road premium is $47,000 starting off. I think I’ll save $20,000+ and take the 4Runner.
Best suv I ever owned. Just sold mine since I rarely drove it.
$47k is too damn much for a truck also. I will keep my current standard Ford Pickup till the wheels fall off ..
You can buy a lot of gas with $20,000.
Im so tired of the toyota obsession......why would you buy anything new??? Nothing is made as good as they used to be. Even toyota quality has slipped
..even scotty has said it, and ive seen it..abd some people on scottys channel have commented and said their 2020 camry, ect has already had issues...buy used
@@Anth230 4 runner is not a truck, it’s suv, and poorly made, if you compare to 4 runners made in 90-00 , those that are made today not the same vehicles.. unless he meant to write Tacoma pickup. Bug again you cannot compare gasoline vehicle to electric..
The fact that they have the ability to shut the truck off on you should make everyone uneasy, and if you believe that the only time they would do that is if you didn't make a payment, you've got another thing coming with the way our government is going. Creepy. People better wake up and start pushing back against this stuff.
Yep
Tesla can do that too
If you look into it this is actually going to be a government mandated thing on all new vehicles...
@@curtiswhite7880 Not my vehicle lol.
Exactly!
External isolation means one of the HV components it's making its way to chassis ground which is unsafe. I would tell him to go get it checked
I test drove one….very nice and quiet and smooth ride. If they were around $40k I’d get one.
I would love to see you get one of those first year mavericks now. I’m hearing rumblings about shifting/transmission issues on them
You should have asked the guy about the wear on the tires. I have a Nissan leaf that I’m leasing and the Japanese Bridgestones are pretty much trash at 13,000 miles. That truck is very heavy. I’d like to learn about tire wear.
I have a lightning pro with the same michellins in the video. I’m at 30k miles now, they’ll make 40k no problem but I think 50 might be pushing it
The 3:20 mark where Scotty talks about towing blew my mind. LOL
Thanks Scotty
Idk how anyone can be fine with losing 100 miles of range.. paying for 300 mi and only getting 200 mi out of it. That's like if someone stole 1/3 of your gas tank after you filled it up!
ICE trucks lose range while towing too. May not be 1/3, but close.
Most “real truck guys” don’t even use their truck for truck things!😂 there are more mall crawlers than hunting rigs. Sure there are work trucks, but most of these trucks never see a dirt road let alone a trail. My escape has done more off roading than all the trucks at my work’s parking lot combined 😂
Guilty
I am one of those, but I bought my truck not for going off road. I bought it because it goes with my personality. I feel no guilty.
I ordered the Lightning PRO (work truck model) back in August for our landscaping business. Vinyl seats and floor is what we need. We get dirty! Only options: bed liner and 240V power in the bed. Cost: $53,785 including options and shipping. $46,285 after the Federal tax credit.
Don't need to pay $10,000 for a bigger battery since the standard battery has plenty of range for our work. Charge it at night. Never a problem. Great fleet solution. I added a 240V circuit since this isn't our first EV rodeo...
We bought the 240V option as a silent generator for when the power goes out. We set up a generator transfer switch and added another 240V circuit that will feed power from the truck to the main panel in a blackout. The frunk is great additional locked, waterproof storage. No need for tonneau cover or WeatherGuard box taking up bed space.
The water is fine over here on the EV side, come give it a try!
@@davidhiles8823 I knew someone was going to love their lightning! Right on man, I’d buy a smaller cheaper ranger model if they made them.
@@davidhiles8823 So I helped you buy your truck through that federal tax credit. You're welcome.
I don't blame you for taking advantage of it, but I feel the industry should stand on its own. I never got a rebate for anything I ever bought to drive.
I have the hybrid maverick 2023. Took 11 months ordered to delivered. But get in the 40 plus range mpg OTD price 28200 XLT. wow 300 to 210 in cold. lol. I can do 600 miles on 13.5 gallons. But its no f150 in size. .
I wish I had a mechanic like Scotty. The boys at Midas where I'm from are good but none of them come even close to Scotty
I remember you (Scotty) not being able to connect to the Mustang Mach E with any OBDII scan tool yet this newer F150 Lighting connects just fine 🤔🤔. Did Ford get sued and forced to make their electric vehicles compatible with those scan tools?
There’s cold and there’s COLD. Tennessee is just chilly compared to Edmonton. I wonder how pitiful the range is at -40 or worse.
Far enough to get to the liquor store and back? :)
The wheel falling off reminds me of the story ron White tells about sears putting his tires on lol.
I like the Vaseline jar expression😊
The Vaseline at 7:18 😂
I love my ‘23 Lariat Extended Range. Mine came with a fantastic home charger that can charge mine from 5%-90% in 6hrs or less, and costs me about 7-8$ in electricity. Very cheap to operate if you don’t use public chargers $$$. It’s fun to drive and 0-60 in 4 seconds flat is great! It’s definitely not for everyone but for me it’s great! Had it for 3 months and never had to use a public charger! It tows my small boat like it’s not even there. Definitely not the vehicle to make road trips with tho. It can be done, but plan at least extra hour to charge for every 5 hours of driving vs ICE vehicles in best case DCFast Charging scenarios.
Hardest part about driving this truck is everyone thinks you’re a lib.
Not everyone, most people don't notice. Oh, wait, you've got the lightbar across the front, that might lead to a different experience for you.
I like how you have it some "gas" at the stop sign.
Charging stations are rare in the Harrisburg/Carlisle area. We do have a local gas station that provides a couple electric charging stations, but they are few and far between
No more police chases as they can turn your vehicle off as well -- Orwellian 1984 Vehicle
So you think that every a****** that wants to run from police and every crotch rocket Rider should just be able to run from police at will? Endangered peoples and police officers lives in the process.. if you're hung up on orwellian prophecies you should look at what Donald Trump and the Republicans are trying to do to our government
Same idiotic and recycled garbage. Not only can't they turn the vehicle off, even if that was the case, it would also apply to any combustion engine car genius, as ALL cars have been computer controlled for 40 years already.
I wish Tom magliozzi of car talk was alive to dished out the humor of electric f150😊
They have a place. I think they are a great alternative for city workers.
I considered getting a Maverick, but with all the construction and some areas "not done yet" but full of dirt and gravel.
I chose to get a Ranger, great truck when the road hasn't been plowed yet.
Recalls don’t mean you have an unreliable vehicle ffs. Ignoring issues is worse than issuing recalls. Even precious Toyota has many recalls on their vehicles.
I have a 2014 Toyota Camry SE. I have never had a recall on this vehicle. Only maintenance and tires have ever been needed!
@@gregs.427then you need to do a recall search…. 14V715000 that’s just one of many….
Recalls are bad when the car just came out and it needs 3 things change for safety 😂 sounds like a gm product
As a Ford mechanic. It has a great deal to do with the overall afterthought engineering that went into the vehicle, most of the Myriad of recalls are software related because Ford did not do enough testing on the vehicle before it was rushed to Market, they come off the carrier with 10 modules already ready for updates, and then there are safety recalls that are not dictated by Ford but by Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, which are just because of poor design. The Lightning's latest foible is the tail light which probably cost 1500 in parts and labor
@@gregs.427I have a 96 corolla 784k miles...lol
I went to Discount tire one time to get new tires on my 2013 Camaro R/S. It had different size tires on the front and back. The genius there put one of the big tires on the front rim and one of the smaller tires on the rear rim. And mounted the rims where they belonged. So I ended up with a fat and skinny tire on the front and a fat and skinny tire on the rear. Luckilly they didn't ruin the tires by stretching the skiny ones onto the wide rims.
Wow! That`s incredibly incompetent!
My 86 Corvette has directional wheels, helps with brake cooling. No tire dealer I've ever been to knew anything about that. I understand the car is almost four decades old but my point it it's not NEW tech.
All of the motorcycles I have had for 30 years have tires with an arrow on tire rotation and they still screw it up, even after you tell them to put the new ones on the same way as the old ones.
@@jamescampolo7824 That`s pretty bad considering motorcycles only have 2 tires or at most 3 if they have a side car. The incompetence of some tire shops astounds me at times.
I am not a fan of these full electric vehicles. However, we did own a Ford C-Max from 2016-2021. It was a hybrid and was very reliable. We traded it with 80k on it and only replaced the tires and small 12 volt battery.
I liked that my range wasn’t limited by anything (other a fill up)
Where it failed us was when we moved from Florida to Tennessee. Our home is up on a ridge and in the snow it was terrible and traverse the driveway.
Surprisingly great little cars. We have a 2013 since 2015 and not a lick of trouble.
Never heard about the salt corrosion into the battery compartment, is that occurring more & more?
The thing with electric vehicles is that most people only drive short trips. To and from work, to and from the grocery store, etc. For people who spend the vast majority of their time only driving 30 miles or less per day, and electric vehicle is a great option. Have a gas vehicle or a hybrid if you wanna make long trips, or to tow. I'm sure that if someone who owns this truck was towing short distances, it'd be fine. Certainly not for trips while towing. An electric F-150 only makes sense if you like trucks and if you plan on doing any towing, it's only for very short distances. Otherwise, an electric car or a hybrid would be a better option. Thanks for this great (and fun) review!
Yes, exactly. The majority of people I talk to don't understand what a hybrid vehicle is. Weird
@@rays7437 IKR? Everyone I know who drives a hybrid pretty much only uses electricity "around town." Taking kids to school, going to work, going out for dinner, getting groceries...but if they wanna go see Grandma for the holidays, they may start with the electric motor, but then they use the gas engine.
@@aliwantizu Those are Plug in Hybrids. Regular hybrids don't drive mostly on electricity.
With all the negatives about EVs, sales are still going up with about 1 million sold this year. More will be sold next year, especially to fleet and better selection to consumers. And battery technology will get better as it scales up.
@@redbaron6805 I have a hybrid and 70% of my local trips are on electricity only. Just backing off the pedal will put into electric mode and at 50mph it will go up to 2 miles in that mode. On freeways, not so much, but I still
The vast majority of full size trucks hardly ever get used for towing. People who tow buy 3/4 ton or higher. If you're daily commute is less than 50 miles, you could level 1 charge the majority of the time, then DC fast charge as needed. You plug it in everyday, you don't run the battery down low then fill up like you would in a gas truck. Yes, these are not for everyone but don't buy something you don't understand.
If you can only charge overnight then I think it's closer to 30 miles a day, but otherwise I agree with your sentiment. We lived with 2 EVs charging off of one Level 1 connection for years (since we work at home). (2 because we got a short-range one first to test the water then decided to go all EV, and it worked out great.)
OH YEAH !!! Loved the Vaseline jar ! lol lol
The F-150 Lighting is the Ford Edsel of our time.
My low mileage, 1995 4WD Suburban suits me just fine. I can get 400 miles on a tank of gas, and a fill-up only takes 5-6 minutes. When I get the urge, I have the freedom to get off the beaten path and not have to worry about where the next charging station may be. My time is valuable...don't want to take twice as long to get somewhere. I also don't have to worry about my house burning down overnight either.
Maybe this is actually a good case study. Abuse the battery with 100% all the time and cold weather driving. However, scotty has to realize most people who buy trucks don't hardly do truck stuff.
It still has to be able to do truck stuff even if most owners don't.
Terrible range loss in cold weather and can't tow for crap
@@Argedis "just in case"
@@cinthe3 And most SUV owners don't haul 6+ passengers most of the time. "Just in case" right
@@Argedis right. No need for a giant suv unless one has the family to fit
@@Argedis It can obviously tow things locally for a contractor for well over 100 to 150 miles. Multiple contractors have reported as long as they are not towing RV's cross country, they truck works perfectly to tow things locally.
when buying a truck, its the get the right tool for the job philosophy. For most use cases, EV F150 would be good.. but if you do a many long travels a month or tow , then it wouldnt be good
"and tow" - if towing less than 100-150 miles it's actually great at towing
I feel like this ford 150 lighting is for those people who just always wanted a truck but never like the idea of paying crazy amount for gas and don’t want to tow, they just want to drive a truck that’s all.
The fact I have looked around and see that these Lightening's sit on lots at $80,000 and higher, means it is mostly for the affluent or someone who can write them off for business over time... Trucks have gone bat-sht crazy expensive.
Everything is. Interest rates aren't helping either
Another Great Video Mr. Kilmer!! Keep them coming! I have a 2018 F150 XLT 2.7 to tow my 21’ boat. I will not give it up for any electric vehicle. I normally keep my vehicles for at least 14 years. With the cost of trucks now , I am out priced from the market!
Hope you know your engine has an internal wet rubber belt. Ford only built these engines to last up to warranty and then wipes their asses afterwards.
@@realdeal8607big fuckin deal replace the belt at 150-200k and move on
@@anthonys7534 Fix Or Repair Daily
Why would you lease or buy if you cant install a level 2 charger at home ?That is where the savings is and in general its fairly substantial. Now leasing for a year is a good idea to see if it works for you. Now 5 years from now these vehichles will be allot better along with charging . Now even today what they can do with a battery is impressive.
My brother has a 2017 Ford F-150 four door, 4X4 with 33” tires on it. It has a 800 mile range with a 5.0 and about 22mpg on the highway. Sweet truck. About 13 mpg in town. Massive gas tanks too.
My F150 with the 3.7L Naturally Aspirated V6 super cab with a 33' tires got 13mpg at best and 9-10 around town lol.
@@Tylnorton why would you buy a truck with that crappy 3.7 ecoshit? Truck should have simple v8 or diesel.
@@robant5578Are you high? How could I have an ecoboost on a NATURALLY ASPIRATED engine? Also 6 cylinder engines have always been a thing for trucks.
I bought a truck that was in my price range and that's what I did with my current Ram 1500 V6. Which still does more than most people's grocery getter V8 and pavement princess diesels.
@@Tylnorton v6 ram same as older v6 4.2 l from ford were low rpm but high torque motors, .. 3.7l is not the right motor size for the full size truck , going on empty to the shopping store, maybe, but I would never get a truck with any other motor than v8.. ,, if you don’t have funds for new v8 or few years old truck, go for older v8. .. v8 trucks just last forever and cheap to maintain, .
@@robant5578 I'm not against V8 trucks. I just wanted something suits my needs. Down the road I'll probably find myself a manual diesel truck in a few years. Definitely not getting an EV ever.
I have a 2015 coyote f150 with 46000 miles.
Just changed all the drive train fluids and transmission cooler lines.
Should be good for another 8 years.
I had a coyote engine the timing chain broke at 200k...
Never again....especially how well I maintained it and drove it....never again
A timing chain breaking seems extreme.
Usually something has to get jammed for that to happen.Otherwise your timing should just get lose over time as the chain wears leading to engine codes.
timing belts, absolutely, but chain is much rarer.@@wennerygunsmithing5213
Ford - Quality is job one!! Remember the commercials when Ford said Taurus will be worth more than used Camrys. 😂
I won’t think about buying anything made by the big 3. If you need a heavy duty truck you are going to have to deal with the big 3 for a truck. Good luck y’all!!
Thanks scotty
It is a shame Ford doesn’t make more plug-in hybrids. I loved my C-Max Energi. It does seem silly that your friend bought an EV and doesn’t have access to a Level 2 charger at home. We have a Model Y and charge 99% of the time at home for a very low cost.
It is a shame everyone doesn't. I need to look into the new "Ram Charger" too. But too bad it's Stellantis.
Thanks for the more honest review Scotty! True, a lot of truck owners tow. But, I Know many who don't regularly. And what other well-built electric vehicle has that kind of cargo space for a similar price (and from a company that will certainly be around another decade)?!? Also, $50 for a full battery still sounds cheap compared to a full tank of gas. I spend more to fill up my Honda 8-seater! If these are the worse cons to the lightning, they're worth considering to me
Why would you buy such a big rig if you don't tow or haul anything with it? Pointless.
Go buy one and let us know how you like it.
@@chipsawdust5816 75% of truck owners never haul or tow anything. Tell them their purchases are pointless...
@@chipsawdust5816 because some of us contractors only haul in the bed, big loads are delivered, but i dont need all that fancy stuff
Where I live in Southern Texas, a looooooot of people have the latest & greatest brand new GMC, Chevy & Ford pickups that are often fully loaded and whatnot, and they're never used for truck stuff, just glorified big sedans that get horrendously worse gas mileage. In that scenario if they've got 50-100k to drop on a truck like that and never use it as a truck, then dare I say the lightning is not a bad choice. The only trucks here that are actually used as trucks are the 90s-00s rangers, 90s-00s GMC & Chevy Trucks, and Tacoma's & Tundras of that same year range. which is pretty funny to me honestly
When the battery housing starts corroding the batteries will catch on fire when they get wet. It’s impossible to put out a battery fire because they spark right back up. Happens all the time to electric cars.
Scotty, I live in RI if you want to do an update on a Lightning locally, just a drive across the bridges for me.
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy 32750 approved ! that was good info & see ScottyKilmer
Been waiting for this one 😅
3 days to recharge...NOT even hours! My V8 takes 3 minutes!
Scotty is trying so hard to not like the Lightning.
Instead of F150, Ford should have started their electrical vehicle development based on the Expedition Max, which is less towing oriented than a pick-up truck, plus the Expedition Max has more interior space as a family/passenger vehicle.
Only prob I have with ev and hybrid is I can't shade tree mechanic it
Anybody wondering how long until your insurance company has access to your “hard braking” offenses?
This actually already is a thing, the lightning has insurance related data which is only used if you buy insurance thru ford. And tons of people use those obd plug in things and phone apps for car insurance that report data. I don't like it or use any of that stuff.
@@curtiswhite7880sounds like u don’t like to save money , most insurances run the driving thru the app and u can change whatever u want , pretty easy lol
Won't need to worry about that since the depreciation value of these trucks will be a massive free fall
Restraint control modules have been recording this for 15 years in every vehicle. Including weather your seat belt was on
Literally any car made in the last few years does this.
Have you done a review on the f150 Powerboost/beast. It’s the full hybrid ecoboost version. Every point you made is why I went with the powerboost. 630miles range, battery protected in vehicle, can tow/haul, 5mins to refuel the tank, and 550Lbs of torque with the batter moves pretty pretty quick aka why mine is named Black Mamba
Sounds good on paper. But like scotty said #1 in recalls for 3 years straight now. And yes I'm counting that 4 million recalls in 2023 against them too.
Have fun waiting on your fancy driver seat bed.
@@cactneirrecalls are free repairs of mistakes they found..toyota doesnt even always replace the frames on trucks anymore....evn though some of them are older now, everyone knows the frame problems with toyota trucks, was toyotas fault
@richsweeney1115 lol you know ford chevy and dodge makes you have recalls so when you pull it into the shop they can create more issues
@richsweeney1115 actually you know what. Guys like you tick me off. Talking trash about Hyundai kia and any foreign car brand that craps out on you. Then you go back and say the 3 stooges gets a free pass for being American made.
Honda is 73% American made
Scotty, on Jan. 4, 2024, Ford announced that the base price for the F150 Lightning was raise to $54,495. from $49,995. For me (who doesn't give a hoot about this vehicle), I find this announcement stunning and surprising. This ought to drive sales to a much lower level.
Hi! Can you please check out the Rivian too?
6:40 Scotty being biased again just contradicted himself
Electricity IS CHEAPER when you charge at home which 80% or people do
Supercharging is for fools that don’t worry about money and people that occasionally go on road trips
🤔Run a generator in the bed and it’ll be a hybrid 🤷♂️
I don't blame this guy for not liking electric cars and trucks. It basicly puts mechanics out of business. With way fewer moving parts and friction, there isn't much to maintain. Just rotate the tires and top off fluids and you're good to go!
It seems like a good choice for a soccer mom who needs to stop at Ikea twice yearly.
I don't understand why the drive from Pennsylvania to Rhode Island took so much longer than a gasoline vehicle would need. Pittsburgh to Providence is 550 miles. If he started with 210 miles of range, he would probably need to stop twice, adding 340 miles. Motor Trend says 1.93 mpkWh. Thus 176 kWh. At 120 kW, this is 90-minutes. Lightning will charge faster, but tapers to 120 @ 80%.
The biggest annoyance with long distance driving in any electric vehicle is doubling the time it takes to make the trip.
I took a Tesla on a long distance trips. What normally would take 6-7 hours with a combustion car, took about 12 hours with a Telsa. I like Teslas, but damn the added time for charging is just a huge inconvenience.
😅 that is a joke
Nope, not even with my old slow-charging (100 KW) Tesla.
Make sure to connect your phone so they can have your personal information too!😮
They all do that these day. Nothing is private or personal. Hell they have invaded peoples homes. With smart appliances and TV. So called security. Doesn't make it right but that's how it is.
It's OK to connect. Just tap No on your phone when it asks to allow syncing your texts, contacts, etc.
@@PiratePete-te8qp No cell phones here or any smart tech. except this 11 year old PC.😀
Hey have you ever thought how safe you are in a aluminum roof pick up.truck??. My son had a aluminum roof in his hand, took.1hand one direction. The other hand pulled other direction. It ripped like paper lol, lot of protection in a roll over my son said.
Those inspection & emissions stickers are PA