What Are The Best/Worst Hockey Card Products To Buy? - Card Collecting Tips For New Collectors #1
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2017
- Many have asked me for advice on collecting, so today I decided to make an official series on giving advice and offering tips and tricks for new collectors. In this episode, we discuss the best and worst products to buy from a newcomers standpoint.
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For the record, I meant to say Fleer Showcase at 9:38 I had Contours on my list ahead of Showcase and thus said the wrong name.
Contours is so bad
Its bad if its $120 when it came out but its a fun hobby break for $60 if you can find it for that price.
Contours is the Upper Deck equivalent to Panini's Crown Royale. Its only bad if you dont get the cards you want. They have the similar designs with parallels, die cuts, patches, autos and jerseys......the thing about Contours is the chances of getting a decent rookie is lower as the rookies from the year with the exception of McDavid didnt get cards released until later on in the season.
With most things you have to know what youre buying and what the roduct offers.Lots of sites out there can tell you the complete checklists and what players are expected to be pulled
The Cup is junk
I love classic early 90's junk.
you should do an updated version of this video
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-UD Full Force - The Hobby box is great for a $35 product. The 2015-16 edition appears to be a one-off. Autos are one every two boxes. A chance to hit a Max Domi, Eichel, Larkin or McDavid RC in all kinds of variations. Look for thick acetate inserts that are numbered, or a “goooal” die-cut auto. They do have very rare Gretzky autos.
-AHL - For $15 you can collect a lot of the base set (or if it’s 2013-14 you get the whole set). It almost always guarantees 3 to 5 autos. But the autos are AHLers. Usually you do get at least one player who is NHL worthy like Tristan Jarry or Hunter Shinkaruk. They also have sickers, logos and mascots. Still, 5 autos for $15 for 2015-16 AHLers!
-Canada Juniors - Great product. You can hit two autos pretty easily, including at least one auto patch. And you can get two more jersey cards, plus loads or parallels, and maybe a retro card. Great for girls, as there are loads of women’s hockey hits. Buy it for $50. You do get quasi rookie cards, if you hit a 2016-17 Barzal or a 2015-16 McDavid or Fucale.
-The Cup - It’s for Wall Street bankers. No one should spend $600 on a box of cards. For $600 simply buy a graded low end Bobby Orr RC or a mid-end Jacques Plante RC, or a lot of 1933 OPC cards including a Howie Morenz.
-Leaf - Sometimes they (ITG/Leaf) own the rights to a cherished rookie, and not UD. In this case you might want to break the bank for a Leaf product. Usually starts at $120 and up for only five cards. They are relics and auto relics. They can be gaudy/ugly. Definitely watch breaks before buying. It’s an all or nothing product. And the design is a bit much. But you do land, say, a Bobby Clarke / Bernie Parent / Bill Barber / Phil Esposito / Bobby Orr / Johnny Bucyk relic.
-UD Premier - If you have $275 to throw away, go for it. You get 7 cards per pack, at 1 pack per box. It’s 1 Rookie Autograph Patch, 4 Additional Autographs / Relics, and 2 Base Cards. Really clean, beautiful cards. But it’s all about being in the right tax bracket. The cards are hot. No argument there.
-Panini Rookie Anthology - Sort of a composite product, pulling RCs from various other products. For $40-$50 the box might be worth it to target a Ryan Nugent-Hopkins RC, or a six-way jersey. You get 1 Numbered Rookie Treasures Autographed Dual-Memorabilia Rookie Card, 1 Autograph Card, 2 Memorabilia Cards, and a total of 50 Total Cards. Typically a fun break, with at least one really compelling card.
-ITG Final Vault - A rehash product of old ITG BAP and BTP cards that they restamp 1/1 etc. At $50-$60 you can’t go wrong. Worth the fun of hitting a Mario jersey card, a cheap BAP Tony Amonte auto or a goalie mask card. You get 4 Autographs, 5 Memorabilia Cards, 1 Mask Card (Stamped), 10 Total Cards eseentially all hit.
-Panini Anthology: This product is also all hits for $60. It’s not really worth it though, if you hit a Mark Visentin and not a Kelly Hrudey. The cards are thick and interesting, but they are cheaper on eBay. First watch a few breaks on CZcams. 2 Autograph Cards, 4 Memorabilia Cards, 2 Other Hits and 6 Total Cards.
-1990s hobby boxes for $20. Just remember those are mostly for set builders, and the cards were mass produced. They do have insert subsets worth collecting. Worth buying just to dabble into the history of the game. Entire sets from this era are available on eBay for the same price as the hobby box.
-Maple Leafs Centennial, Habs Centennial, President’s Choice, etc. The Habs Centennial set is very clean, and the autos have retained their value. Very nice set to build. The reprise for the Leafs was very hit and miss, as the cards essentially looked like MVP, which is not a compliment. Look for the autos on eBay rather than buy the tins. The hobby box prices have come down, which is no surprise to me. The President’s Choice blue and white, and bleu blanc et rouge are awesome. The Habs though is only $170. The Leafs one is like $350. Not sure what is in the water in Toronto, but people overpay.
-Tim Hortons, Canadian Tire etc. Not my thing. The cards and subsets may be attractive. But the issue is they are mass produced. So if you like them, just buy the set on eBay. Cards that are in a donut shop that is on every block in the country probably have no value. Good for kids though, which really is the entire point of the hobby.
-SP Game Used. I almost forgot, because I hate the product. Mind you some people love it. But, I'm tired of products that only focus on superstars. I played hockey growing up, and I believe it is a team sport. But, grown-up collectors seem to love Game Used, because they can collect the signed letters of a superstars name. For $120-$150 you get 6 cards per pack, 1 packs per box. You get 1 Autograph or Premium Memorabilia Card, 3 Additional Autograph or Relic Cards and 2 Base Cards / Authentic Rookies. It's an overhyped product that people with shallower pockets might find disappointing, especially if you only hit no-name rookies. Definitely watch breaks on CZcams, and monitor card prices on eBay before falling for this one. Be aware of your card odds before dropping $140 on six cards you can buy on eBay for $30 total.
can't wait for episode 2 well done man.
I'll make a video. But here’s a review, with products in USD. Note that I focus mostly on hobby. Be careful when buying retail and blasters because the hit odds can drop significantly. Watch breaks on CZcams before buying.
-Upper Deck Series 1 and 2 - Hobby boxes are too expensive at $75+, because it is mostly base. $45 retail boxes are worth it. Odds of hitting the YG you want is only 12%. Series 2 has second tier YG but is a better product because of the OPC Marquee Rookie inserts. Older years have MVP and Victory update inserts. Blaster boxes only have two YGs. I do recommend the tins, which fall to a $25 price point, and the tin itself is nice, as well as the oversized card they include.
-O-Pee-Chee Platinum - Great product at $75. OPC has loads of dynamic parallels and inserts. Usually you are guaranteed an auto. The blasters (lower hit odds, probably no auto) are very affordable and really deliver on the rookie card front.
-O-Pee-Chee and O-Pee-Chee Update - OPC is bar none the best entry level product. Great retro cards mimicking vintage cards. has minis and playing cards, or other goodies. Base set can run 800 cards with updates. Loaded with rookies, legends, and record holders, including metallic parallels. Rare case autos make the product that much better. Look for updated rookies in UD Series 2. Note sometimes the hobby box dips to $40. And that is because the best rookies usually are in the update set, not the initial hobby box.
-Fat packs (in general) - UD Series 1 and 2 are pretty much all base, except for a single insert. They are overpriced at $5. OPC fat packs are a bit better.
-MVP - First product of the year. Hobby box prices can come down to $25-$35 dollars. Rare redemptions of #1 draft picks or divisional draft picks. Tons of fun to open. Durable cards for kids. Has nice die cuts, facsimile autos, player ID cards, and other goodies. Actual autos are very rare, but do exist. Retail boxes are very worth it, as they provide a lot of packs for the $15 price point. Some cool dual or quad jersey cards on occasion.
-Artifacts - On average, stay away. Retail is essentially all base. Hobby boxes are a bit better with some dual jersey relic cards, etc. But, you are better off buying the “Autofacts” and “Tundra Tandems” on eBay.
-Parkhurst - A retail box of 2016-17 can be bought for $15. Tons of rookies, so it is easy to hit a Laine or Matthews. Parkhurst is probably the easiest way to get a $5 RC. And there are some interesting chase inserts, centred around captains, etc. If you are entering the hobby, buy with confidence. Cheap and fun. Consider buying a set or lot on eBay of old Parkhurst from the 1950s!
-Score - You can get a retail box for under $10. It’s the lowest end product of the hobby, from Panini. There are some high gloss cards and gold parallels. On occasion they throw in a sticker auto, which is fun. But it’s basically all papery base.
-Donruss/Pinnacle - These used to be fun, albeit a similar to Score. They have chase case autos, and “City Lights” or “Game Night” jersey cards. I once hit a Beliveau on-card auto #/50. So the old boxes do have some unbelievable surprises.
-Be A Player - This is an ITG product. The old Be a Player is known for having an auto in every pack or every other pack in the late 1990s and 2000s. They are low end on-card autos, but very fun to collect the auto sets. There are also gold parallel autos., as well as short print autos. The easiest way to buy, say, a Marc-Andre Fleury, Vinny Lecavalier or Vincent Damphousse auto.
-Between the Pipes - Also ITG. One of the most fun products in the hobby. It’s only goaltenders. You typically are guaranteed two autos, and a jersey. Subsets focus on immortals, legends, future, and present goalies. You can theoretically his a glove relic of a Terry Sawchuk if luck smiles on you. But you can more easily get a Carey Price Corey Crawford dual. This said, you might also hit an AHL goalie who never makes it. Or, again, you could hit a Gerry Cheevers Bruins legend, like I did.
I’ve had very good luck with blasters Walmart .. only bad luck with Connor 3200 I spent no Connor lol jack 3rd pack lol
Pretty new to collecting, looking to get one of each type (MVP, S1/2, Artifacts etc.), so this is good for a general finding order.
Artifacts retail I pulled carry price rookie redemption gold number to 25. Very Nice
bro i love your videos really good! keep up the good work
Are you going to do an updated one anytime soon?
Do this video with today's products, lots have changed since this video, thanks
Nice video zeeree
I also like Upper Deck MVP!
Hey zeeree..was wondering how valuable the gold script (blaster exclusive) rookie zadina is? I know its mvp but it's probably one of if not the most coveted card in set, no?
Man just thinking about getting back into the hobby after 20+ yrs absence. Back then Parkhurst was a top notch product. Upper Deck was great, SP even better. And poor Score just about as crappy as now. Much of what I have is from the 90s sadly. But anyway thanks for the pointers.
You should make another one of the collecting tips video soon
go to know that artifacts retail is the worst
mainly cuzz i noticed i only get one special card out of like 12 packs
so thanks for shareing your info on it
What is a set or base set... I am just starting to collect and I want to know what I need to look for
I used to have a pretty big card collection but lost 5 binders of cards in a house fire. Lots of great memories of learning about hockey through stats and descriptions on the back of hockey cards. I recently started collecting again. So far I’ve bought lots of UD series 1 and 2 from the last few years and am enjoying it. Are there any other products I should collect? I’ve pulled some good young guns and other nice inserts but nothing too rare I don’t think.
SP Authentic is my fav and definitely recommend it
12-13 is pretty ok for rookie anthology and stuff since it’s mostly hits from the previous year? Besides the rookies.
Do more of this
06/07 fleer ultra is a beautiful set to collect
Do the next one on grading
I NEED a McDaivd Young Gun , Willing to Trade & Cash or Trade + Cash , Let me know & I also like the Aho too , Showcase
I got a $5 worth auston matthews memorabilia card in a loose leafs centennial pack I bought 3 got a redemption 🤑 and a hall of fame card too!
what is better buying hockey cards online or in store
I got a Josh Ho Sang UDC and and Boychuk canvas in a blaster the other day and almost couldn't believe it
Lol Ho Sang
Hey Zeeree, can I ask a favor of you? Can you do an update of this video for your new(er) viewers. Sorta where you see entering the hobby currently would look like. As those series from 4+ yrs ago would not be in the budget for beginners.
Where do you find pricing/value of cards and other hockey products?
I got gold script rookie milano #/135 in 16-17 blaster
As someone who has been collecting for a long time, sets with hard signed autos are a lot more desirable like SP Authentic. Sticker auto sometimes can be cut off or missing part of their signature, and tend to be smaller. I'm saying purely as a $ and future value. Sticker auto sets rarely go go top dollar, compare a SPX and SPA rookie auto and you'll see what I mean. Try to avoid busting too many random different products, stick to a couple per NHL season. I regret now going through boxes and boxes or binders of random different sets, when I could have kept my older collection more focused. I grew up in the 90's by the way during the big hockey card boom. I also like to collect a product with more rookies as that tends to be something across all sports that is heavily collected and will keep high value. Sell high when the player is at his peak if you can part with the card. Something like my Rick Nash young guns could have fetched me almost $300 in 2003 now might only get me $15. Buy low too, I bought kucherov young guns 3 years ago, same as Barzal heavily last year, and I picked up a Carter Hart Team Canada Auto jersey this year. Those are the type of moves that will reward you in the long run if you're looking to make $. But to be honest this is a pretty hard hobby to do so in. I only really started narrowing down what I wanted to collect in the past 5 years, instead of just spending money busting random packs and boxes, and I wish I started using eBay sooner lol. Hope my advice helps to whomever is reading this, have fun, cheers!
I think a lot of people agree. But, I personally don't see what is so special about hard-card signed. The fact is SP Authentic always has the same look, year-on-year. At least with SPx, the cards are very varied, and they include retros and shadow boxes. And SPx cards are numbered to /50 /99 /125 etc. Future Watches are /999. Both Future Watch and Young Guns are so overhyped, given how basic they look and common they are. And for some of us, it isn't all about value. Also, if prices don't rise too much, it means they can actually be bought. It really depends on how you approach the hobby.
Can you make a new video of what NHL products to invest in and ones to stay away from?
Hi, I'm pretty late to the party. Why are the Cup tins so expensive? I've seen them online while looking at which card boxes to buy. They're SUPER expensive! Even more so with the shipping to UK.
Thanks in advance 😁
CBR_Jay it’s super high end with lots of patches, autos, booklets etc. I personally don’t think it’s worth it
@@alannatran282 Thanks for the response. I'll definitely steer clear of the more expensive ones for now. 😁
just pulled alex nylander patch
What are blasters?
I have old hockey cards I font know what they're worth man would you look at them
Hey zeeree and others reading this. My birthday is coming up soon and I'm allowed to get any box under $60. Would anyone be able to recommend good boxes I could get and why they are good so I can narrow the choices down?
By the way zeeree, I started collecting future watches as well!
Thanks!
Bobby Bob I would get a box of nhl 2015 2016 contours
Bobby Bob hi Bobby Bob, I've been collecting cards all my life. But, I played Hockey at very high level- ahl- what i am trying to say save your money. You very can not get anythibg giod for $60 unfortunately. It depends on where u live & if you have a local card and memorable store? Bc u want to buy " Hobby Boxes". Upper Deck Hobby Box series 1& 2 last year and this year were and are good! Wait... Or buy a Hobby Box, upper deck spx game worn on Amazon! I wish you the best. PS be careful. And NEVER BUY RETAIL BOXES FROM TARGET, OR OTHER STORES LIKE THAT. YOU will spend $60 and get nothing. Good luck!
What did you end up getting?
@@dionysius1b870 your a tool. If you have been collecting for years and say there is nothing you are a tool.
My favourite and go-to is probably series 1 or 2 from Upper Deck 2016-17!
So I'm just starting out collecting, I dont want to spend a fortune! What do you reccomend I start off to buy?
ud series1/series2 tin
I recommend buying series 1. There’s always a big rookie that sells for a couple hundred dollars. Good price point for a lot of potential
Hey Zeeree can you do an updated one?
ikkk i want it so bad
I bought a ud retail box series 2 20/21 all I got was Gage quinney yg alex barabanov yg phillipe derossiers yg jani hakanpaa yg maxim letunov yg Jordan gross yg I couldn't believe it I paid over $100.00 for it. What are your thoughts? Can I send it back i even got a retail tin series 2 20/21 ty Smith yg chase priskie yg it was awful as well why does ud ripoff their valued customers
Mj Holding stuff
i got federov red army rookie cards...
any value??
no
How are the big Card Names such as OPC,Upper Deck etc. Monitored & Regulated? Because everyone knows that this is a multi-billion dollar industry! In other words, who is monitoring the potential criminals inside these card producing factories? {If not done yet..this could make for an interesting great vid..an in-depth AtoZ on the manufacturing/distribution of cards..} And Thanks for your great Vid! DavidJ-👍😉🇨🇦
What about 15/16 UD Portfolio ? :)
Generally a not very popular set. Some nice autos to be had and some rare variation cards but not a wise investment overall. The redemptions are also set to expire soon if they haven’t already.
I pulled a "signed" Aaron Miller but the signature is silver, is this a real signature?
Optimist Prime is it mvp
Optimist Prime No, its fake if its facsimle
i'm new to colecting. thank you for helping me. i collect young guns if you have any young cheap recommendations for cards i would love to listen to it. on my channel i make hockey card and video game videos. thank you for all your help.
what are some good cards for investments
like grading and brand
I pulled McDavid rn in a fat pack...
Update 2022 version?
Automatically go OOF when I see that Beetuzzi bobble 🤦♂️
Whats the difference between retail and hobby
Retail contains a lower amount of pack in each box and has a lower chance on pulling hits while hobby contains high amount of packs and a higher chance on getting or pulling hits
Jaromir jagr rookie 9.5 grade should i wait till he retires?
Yes, you should
Electric88 i couldn't believe he still plays. Dudes a beast.
I now
Hi
I'm new to cards...what's wrong with artifacts?
Why don't you get your good cards graded?
Upper Deck is not good to its customers as it gives out little in its retail products or hobby products, you have to be rather lucky to get anything decent as they love to put out a short amount of the more desired cards. Then again if you fork out the big money and get something like Upper Deck's "The Cup|" series, then yeah youll get something of great value but what they dish out is still not worth the asking price.
I would personally get anything distributed by Panini but getting stuff from them would be rather hard as they lost the licensing contract with the NHL years ago, youd either have to go online or be lucky to find something lying about somewhere , still, they had a far superior product when it came to cards.
Sad that most of these cards years down the road won’t be worth much more than what they are now like Young Guns. Too many made.
Pffft go to hobby store 😝😝♦️ but just a suggestion
When is your next trading video
After the Toronto Expo in November
zeeree Gaming ok thanks
Trilogy is definitely my fav, you didnt even touch it bro?!
Probably because it's pretty pricey, and this is more for new collectors who might not want to drop all that money
@@matttanner462 he opens a ton of spx though.. Isn't it the same price point?
@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm he opens it because he knows a lot about it and is willing to spend thousands on boxes. Most new collectors won’t drop $5k to complete the set
I have more than 1,000 cards
Is there a virtual hockey card website?
upperdeck ecards
When it comes to upper deck, there is no best only worse and worst..
Updated video please
Update this maybe things changed
Zeeree when you said SP authentic is that your personal opinion because I know you have a big Future watch PC.
SP Authentic is definitely my favorite product.
So personal preference?
Worse I've seen so far, in the past few years, was 2014/15 Upper Deck MVP! Lots of the cards are way off centre, as the bottom of one card, is seen on the other card! Bought a case because it was a great price, now I know why, as I had to go through a lot of boxes to make a decent enough set! Lots of it ended up in the recycle box, should sue Upper Deck for highway robbery after that one!
What is the 'huh, huh' about at the end of the video?
ninjadoug92 maybe he was coughing
I like it when he does that. It is his signature saying. Puts a smile on my face every time. He has done it in past videos.
Artifacts is the worst product ever I paid 10 bucks for a pack and it was all base
Worse:Austin m
AHAHAHHAA
Nothing is cheap anymore.
I'm not sure why the hobby keeps pushing Young Guns. They're not terrible, but they're not numbered cards.
Is o pee chee good?
O pee Chee is as basic as you can get for cards. It is now as it was years ago. buy packs or boxes to make a set or just get the cards of the players you want. The one thing O Pee Chee has done lately that tries to make it more appealing is they throw in special cards such as an autograph or a different designed card of a player but truthfully its not worth getting these special cards because O Pee Chee is mass produced and avaialble just about anywhere unlike other cards.
O pee chee is not good
Pretty solid for a low price
Rickul yes today I pulled a Wayne Gretzky
Dude these box are worth so much non
Leafs centennial is a valuable product only if you buy hobby boxes :/ Toronto is the biggest hockey market, so it's easy to sell your stuff if you don't like it. But if you're like me, you buy this product because you want to build the set (1-200) + (1-100) diecut. I like the stories about the teams and i'll probably get the set of the six original teams :)
Worse are all the journeymen players in the set, some barely got to get their jersey some real wear!
do you make money off of this?
I have to say, series 1 and 2 SUCKS. All young guns are are glorified inserts... that's it... for some reason these inserts could sell for so much and I dont know why.
As time has gone on I Honestly agree with this.
@@zeeree11 lol just realized u made this video like 2 years ago lol.... but its true... glorified inserts... nothing more. its not an auto. not a relic, just an insert.
Anything upper deck produces is crap.. overrated and overpriced trash..
Please try to keep your hands still, out of the picture...thanks....just while you are talking of course.
This video is old af
@@zeeree11 do a new one
@@zeeree11 A new one would be great!
Love your videos, but that intro is cringe...
I dont get it, why the hell are there so many god damn sets this is cardboard not a museum. What the fuk do I collect now? Who is collecting what, who the hell do I trade with, where the fuk did this card come from? Why does this stupid card have so many different colours? Can anybody hear me?!?
Solution is just the base Upper Deck set for rookies, canvas parallels, and the occasional auto or jersey. If you like building sets, O-Pee-Chee. Huge set with players who wouldn't usually get a hockey card. Also try SP for higher-quality cards and more valuable autos and jerseys.
Upper Deck is GARBAGE to me. I would not pay 2 cents for anything they make. UD ruined the hobby so i am not about to reward them. O-Pee-Chee, Parkhurst or nothing at all
Upper deck ruined the hobby. I hate them.
Do the next one on grading