My 5 BIGGEST MISTAKES Marrying Into the British Aristocracy

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  • čas přidán 19. 01. 2022
  • It hasn't been plain sailing as an American Viscountess, and I've been known to make some pretty serious faux pas! From who to talk to at a dinner party, to identifying the correct architectural style of an historic house, life in the aristocracy is a minefield!
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  • @AmericanViscountess
    @AmericanViscountess  Před 2 lety +40

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    • @suzyq6767
      @suzyq6767 Před 2 lety

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    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Před 2 lety +1

      Having just seen your video on 1930s dresses and accessories, I wonder if you lived in a different body during that time? Reincarnation? You seem to have a real fondness for the era, which is sometimes an indication.

    • @Smileygld123
      @Smileygld123 Před 2 lety

      I finally started seeing your Royal commentaries. Thanks for speaking up for the Duchess of Sussex in the early days while she was still working in the RF. I agree with your assessment.

  • @lauraleefeist8811
    @lauraleefeist8811 Před 2 lety +174

    I'll never forget my biggest mistake living in Scotland. I was 18 and living in a residence for school. The collective gasp in the dining hall when I picked up fried chicken and ate it with my hands was deafening. The fact that no one believed me when I tried to explain that this was perfectly fine to do in Canada still bothers me a little. I'm 53 now. It was intense. So well done to you for learning all that.

    • @vjhreeves
      @vjhreeves Před 2 lety +55

      Eating a fried chicken drumstick with a fork and knife sounds ridiculously difficult.

    • @diane9247
      @diane9247 Před 2 lety +5

      Oooh, I feel for you, Laura! 🍗🤨

    • @deegralak-roe
      @deegralak-roe Před 2 lety +23

      We eat chicken exactly the same way in Poland so don't worry about it . There's NO other way to do it lol 😆

    • @vetgmacatmomfl2055
      @vetgmacatmomfl2055 Před 2 lety +1

      If you don't eat fried chicken with your hands in America you look like an idiot. So for North America what you did was actually normal.

    • @candyboyer
      @candyboyer Před 2 lety +31

      Same thing happened to me when I first moved to West Germany years ago and picked up a piece of pizza to eat with my hands. The whole restaurant went SILENT 😄

  • @jartotable
    @jartotable Před 2 lety +168

    Taking turns, from left to right, to talk to your fellow guests is my favourite because its practical. Stops cliques and patches of guests who have no one to talk to. That's why invited guests should always be equal in numbers.

    • @monicafiore20
      @monicafiore20 Před 2 lety +4

      You just took the words from my head...I couldn't agree more.

    • @rena6895
      @rena6895 Před rokem

      Agree!

    • @lindafleming3907
      @lindafleming3907 Před rokem +1

      It also helps if one doesn’t talk with one’s hands, frantic gesticulation leads to indigestion. 😂

    • @Print229
      @Print229 Před 3 měsíci

      But what happens if you invite an even number but an odd number shows up? Also, do you sit next to your spouse?

    • @eirintowne
      @eirintowne Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Print229 Proper etiquette is to never place married people next to each other, since they are assumed to talk to each other quite enough outside of formal dinners (but often quite close to one another, due to their equal status), and always place engaged coupled together. If you are just dating, not formally taken, it is considered in everyone's best interest that you receive input from other eligible partners until the day comes when you announce that you have made your match.

  • @Rozewolf
    @Rozewolf Před 2 lety +24

    We lived in England for 10 years, and my sons all had etiquette classes for table manners. If they didn't use their silverware correctly, they had to sit at a different table to be mentored. One of the teachers actually pulled me aside to explain what should be done to correct their horrid table manners. To this day, I still eat with the fork in the left hand, knife in my right. So do some of my sons.

  • @KatD2024
    @KatD2024 Před 2 lety +92

    Yes! Yes! More about architecture! I hate how we (in the US) have torn down so many beautiful and historic buildings and homes. So sad.

    • @BoudicasMom
      @BoudicasMom Před rokem +4

      I completely agree. One of my biggest reasons for wanting to visit the UK & Europe is the magnificent architecture. I am of Scot, Irish & British descent & am a member of a still functioning Scottish clan, with a castle & an estate.

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 Před rokem +1

      In many other countries too, not just England and in the U.S.

  • @Print229
    @Print229 Před 3 měsíci +7

    The big culture shock for me as an American in the UK was realizing just how many people alive today grew up in boarding schools from age 7 onward -especially boys. It boggles my mind to think of sending my seven year old son away. When I expressed this to an elderly gentleman, once, he said, "Oh, my dear, you absolutely would have sent him away because if you didn't *everyone* would have told you what a bad mother you were." Knowing how many children grew up with absent mothers has helped me to better understand everything.

    • @doncook2054
      @doncook2054 Před 2 měsíci

      Wow; just ... wow ... a continual lost generation....

  • @susanlilley-rizos9906
    @susanlilley-rizos9906 Před rokem +29

    You are such a breath of fresh air and adorable. You’re not a snob at all, so many Americans become more English than the english. I love the cute way you refer to the silly mistakes you make. Your husband must be a wise man to recognize such a jewel as you.

  • @fedupnow61859
    @fedupnow61859 Před 2 lety +64

    I see you as a woman that had no idea what living an aristocratic life fully entailed. But your love of your husband and your new found land made you want to immerse yourself into the history and to try to be the best as you can be for the traditions of the land. I married a German , I am from Ct. and Fla in the USA. I love the traditions that my ancestors had and love to keep them going. Plus you are down to earth, friendly and funny.

  • @joannerupinskas5613
    @joannerupinskas5613 Před 2 lety +66

    Lived in Harrogate for two years and had to learn many of these formalities. I knew some of them but was grateful to attend a cultural course to help ease any deficiencies. Ended up having tea with the Queen’s cousin and these etiquette tips came in quite handy. I am fond of the formalities and rather liked building my skill base. Enjoy your videos and your journey into the aristocratic way of life. Thank you for sharing

    • @joannerupinskas5613
      @joannerupinskas5613 Před 2 lety +6

      @John Ashtone it was actually his father. We lived in Harrogate 1994-1996. I am certain it is a splendid place to volunteer. Such beauty abounds and the family was so pleasant and interesting. I hope to return one day.

    • @anneterry3660
      @anneterry3660 Před rokem +6

      Manners help lubricate social situations.

  • @lasleyArt
    @lasleyArt Před 2 lety +16

    Visiting my English relatives one summer as a teenager was a true cultural experience. I was not allowed to chew gum, told it was very low class and not Ok, lol. When I dressed to go to royal ascot, I was promptly told to change, lol. My sleeveless dress was not acceptable, lol. I did finally get my dress right with the appropriate pairing of gloves and hat. Overall a wonderful experience.

    • @womensarmycorpsveteran2904
      @womensarmycorpsveteran2904 Před 2 lety +1

      I can relate. I had a boss in New Zealand that was from England. It drove her absolutely crazy when I chewed gum and made me spit it out every time she caught me. I was trying to quit smoking and chewing the nicotine gum so I wouldn’t get cranky.

  • @Digeroo123
    @Digeroo123 Před 2 lety +83

    I do not really think of those things as mistakes more a set of learning curves.
    I do commend your willingness to learn and your enthusiasm for learning.
    Knowing the periods of houses is very difficult because many were built over quite a long period of time. Many a later house, has a tudor farm house lurking inside. I enjoy visiting National Trust houses, and love it when they have a tour below stairs. Often down into a much older part of the house.

  • @richenuff01
    @richenuff01 Před 2 lety +21

    As an American, it seems that I was raised with the same protocol in terms of setting a proper table as how Julie described in the UK. There were at least two forks, table and tea spoons, a butter knife and one with sharp edge for cutting. In addition, there were water and wine glasses...but not for children (LOL). The only difference is if at a formal dinner party where the hosts controlled the topic and direction on conversation. I have a friend who grew up in Birmingham, UK who said they only had one fork, knife, and water glass. Wine was not served at dinner.

  • @lynnslosson5937
    @lynnslosson5937 Před 2 lety +112

    I would very much like some more in-depth discussion of the architecture, especially Tudor vs Elizabethan ( Queen Elizabeth I was a Tudor, after all!) thank you. This was fun.

    • @lisakurak7108
      @lisakurak7108 Před 2 lety +4

      Not that the ruling monarch has nothing to do with it, but I'm pretty sure the time periods (Tudor, Georgian, Victorian, etc... ) are more about who is on the throne when all the changes are happening (religion, architecture, music, art, etc...)

    • @reneejones5675
      @reneejones5675 Před 2 lety +3

      Lisa is correct, but the video would be interesting especially seeing other places of specific periods.. theres so many I still have not seen properly

  • @mbmacdonald8429
    @mbmacdonald8429 Před 2 lety +31

    Tiffany’s Table Manners and Emily Post Etiquette books cover most of the situations encountered.
    Waiters and waitresses are occasionally required to know formal silver service at upscale restaurants and clubs on the US East Coast. Art and Architecture classes at some schools, universities and museums are also helpful.

    • @suzannes5888
      @suzannes5888 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes, on the West Coast too - and both large cities across the US, and the deep South. I grew up in Phoenix/Scottsdale, Arizona area. We had to learn all of this and also how it applies to different types of events and ensuring household staff understood not only proper/formal white glove service and place settings - in addition to a demonstrated understanding of protocols and customs and courtesies.
      You also must know all the above - and the customs and courtesies (and taboos) of various foreign governments - if you are an official for the US government in foreign service, or at an embassy. It also applies to those in a ceremonial/ senior leadership positions (or serving as senior staff) within any component of the Department of Defense. Various federal agencies, in the Executive and Legislative branches, also have Senior Protocol Officers that specialize in either certain types of events and/or countries.

    • @thomasgansevoort929
      @thomasgansevoort929 Před měsícem +1

      Have you read 'Miss Manners', she is wonderful making it all accurate and fun. Her lesson on eating asparagus is informative and absolutely delightful.

  • @mazinwonderland3077
    @mazinwonderland3077 Před 2 lety +26

    Please Julie, don`t ever change. You are a breathe of fresh air. We love that you are now `one of us`.

    • @margiesoapyhairbillian4754
      @margiesoapyhairbillian4754 Před 2 lety +2

      Julie is still one of us too! 🇺🇸 I adore that she embraced the British lifestyle! It's beautiful 😍

  • @rosemarielee7775
    @rosemarielee7775 Před 2 lety +15

    I love to think of all the wives down the centuries rushing to tell their friends about their super modern home improvements. "A water pump! In the kitchen! No more standing in the yard for me!" " Oh these builders! When will they have finished the new facade! I can't wait to be rid of that old fashioned brick and timber!'

  • @sharonothefae
    @sharonothefae Před 2 lety +6

    As a child in Australia growing up we had table place mats with the utensil placements printed on them. It was a good way to teach how to set the table

  • @chrisbeckstrom6182
    @chrisbeckstrom6182 Před 2 lety +45

    I'm also a Midwesterner and when I moved to New York to study fashion design, I had to get used to all the cheek kissing greetings that are customary among designers. It seemed like a faux pas to engage in that type of greeting when I came back home. Regarding polite architectural talk at a dinner party in the UK, have you ever had the opportunity to discuss Prairie (Organic) Architecture, introduced by Frank Lloyd Wright?

    • @bookmouse2719
      @bookmouse2719 Před 2 lety +7

      Oh I love Frank Lloyd Wright.

    • @thinkmirror8507
      @thinkmirror8507 Před 2 lety

      FLW part of the cabal, very evil man.

    • @LauraPosse
      @LauraPosse Před 2 lety +2

      I’m from South Florida and here we do one cheek kiss on the right side. My husband is from Ohio and the first time I went to visit one of the things that stressed me out a little was how to greet people. I was worried I’d go for a a cheek kiss on autopilot and look like a total weirdo 😂.

    • @arcturianstarport8949
      @arcturianstarport8949 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thinkmirror8507 I did NOT know that. Very interesting.

  • @NeonNecropolis92
    @NeonNecropolis92 Před 2 lety +22

    I studied in the UK and "[are you] all right?" as a greeting always caught me off guard. In America it means it looks like something is wrong with you.

    • @pheart2381
      @pheart2381 Před 2 lety

      I'm from the u.k. and when someone sais"see you" as a way of saying goodbye I find it distracting. Of course they arnt going to "see me" if I am leaving! God knows how foreigners manage.

    • @sallyannc3176
      @sallyannc3176 Před 2 lety +6

      @@pheart2381 ha ha - it's a shortened version of 'see you later'!

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 Před rokem +1

      Yes! @Lauren Byers My Yorkshire SIL had quite a time stopping herself from saying that when she moved to Switzerland. She was looked at as if she had something wrong with her!!!

    • @auntiesophiasays7437
      @auntiesophiasays7437 Před měsícem

      Exactly!! It took me FOREVER to figure out why everyone was so concerned for my welfare. LOL

  • @michelealaimo4931
    @michelealaimo4931 Před 2 lety +13

    Tudor period is Henry VII and VIII. Henry VII was Henry Tudor. Henry VI was a Plantagenet. Henry VII was coronated in 1485 which is the beginning of the Tudor period. I am an American obsessed with the British monarchy and I just want you to be accurate with your monarchs :-). Just as an FYI, there were three kings between Henry VI and Henry VII. Edward IV, Edward V (killed with his brother, Richard, as children in the tower) and Richard III. Henry Tudor defeated Richard III on Bosworth Field to become King Henry VII in 1485.

  • @victoriaoliver9958
    @victoriaoliver9958 Před 2 lety +28

    This was so interesting! I especially liked hearing about how, at a dinner party, the hostess dictates which side you talk to.
    FYI, the pop-up words for Edwardian period says "Victorian" again, in case that's easy to change.

  • @reneestuckyneale1599
    @reneestuckyneale1599 Před 2 lety +14

    I am born and raised in California, my British husband and I live in San Diego but have visited England on occasion. I can see where you are coming from in the differences between how most middle and upper class Brits are brought up and we middle class, and many upper class that haven’t attended finishing school, here in America are brought up. My husband says that he thinks that my family must have lost most of our cutlery on our migration west. My family were mostly from very early emigrants to America on the Mayflower, to Jamestown, and New Amsterdam, so we have been here a long time. And my families also migrated very early across the United States ending up in California between the gold rush and 1930s. I didn’t go to private school, but attended public school. Most of the people I know who observe the more European way of living were those that went to some select private schools and finishing schools.

    • @mellie5899
      @mellie5899 Před rokem +1

      Your family history sounds similar to mine. My family came to America ten years after the Mayflower to New Amsterdam and the Massachusett's Bay Colony. And they came to California in the 1850's. In a genealogy class I took the professor taught that whenever there are two people with early colonial roots chances are they're related somewhere because there were so few people here back then.

    • @jgrib6102
      @jgrib6102 Před rokem +1

      Hahahaa , lost most of the cutlery moving west.

  • @MTknitter22
    @MTknitter22 Před rokem +5

    Julie. THE UK IS DEFINITELY BLESSED TO HAVE YOU

  • @richenuff01
    @richenuff01 Před 2 lety +13

    As a history buff of architecture my entire life, I always had a keen eye for different periods of houses and styles. When learning the history of our American Revolutionary War, it is taught that after the War of Independence, the period known as Georgian became the Federal Period. This was a step towards creating an American description and leaning away from the English influence. The styles didn't change that much, but the colonies looked at interior designs from France and Germany that was referred to as Rococo or Late Baroque Period.

  • @christinejones8566
    @christinejones8566 Před 2 lety +28

    Hiya, as an American living in the UK also, my favourite two things I love to learn is about history & the architecture here. My husband says I know more about the UK's history & buildings than he ever did growing up here! I would love to see more content of architecture and am fascinated that there's a Masters you could get for that course. This is why we are National Trust members but I'm very interested in Historical House membership too. Thanks Julie and all, for your channel. 😄

    • @richenuff01
      @richenuff01 Před 2 lety +5

      LOL... I've been told the same thing by my English friends. I grew up near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania and many of the locals aren't that knowledgeable in terms of what occurred there 250 years ago. Guess anything close by loses importance. LO

    • @sandie157
      @sandie157 Před 2 lety +4

      Following on this comment, I too am fascinated by the idea of the Masters you are doing Julie. Which university is it at? I had no idea one could do that. Was it a subject you proposed to them? I'd love a video about your studies . Do you think that would be an episode idea you would llike to pursue. I thimk there would be a lot of interest from other audience members too.

  • @lmgtulsa
    @lmgtulsa Před 2 lety +43

    Wow. Sounds like a lifetime of learning and trying desperately not to make any crazy mistakes. The subject of your masters sounds so interesting and a topic most Americans would never bore of. I know I wouldn’t.

  • @zelda_kelly
    @zelda_kelly Před 2 lety +40

    This reminds me of a time I was required to speak to a banker in London. I am in the finance business and answers were needed on a particular project for some clients of ours. I am American and was always delighted to speak with anyone in the UK. This particular time I was not happy with the answers I received so I questioned the banker probably a little more than I should have. After my quest to resolve the issues we were having, the banker put down the phone and was talking to someone else about our situation. She then proceeded to say, “oh, yes, it’s that pushy American again.” I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry lol but I chose to laugh. To this day I am especially mindful to not be that pushy American and approach things with a more gentile disposition. I’ll always remember that lol. Thank you for these videos!

    • @kathleenmckenzie6261
      @kathleenmckenzie6261 Před 2 lety +12

      Ah, yes, I lived in England for nearly a year and there is definitely a difference in etiquette. In America, it's common to follow up on questions when seeking information; not so in England. I was also labeled "a pushy American" when I felt I was simply following up. In seeing articles about Meghan Markle's "horrible bullying," it's easy to believe it was a simple matter of staff steeped in ancient customs of etiquette being confronted for the first time with American directness and expectations of efficiency. It was a no-win situation for the Duchess of Sussex.

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 Před rokem +6

      @Z Kelly, my British husband just read your comment and he laughed and said, it is also quite possible that your intelligent questioning made some pompous males uncomfortable! He said also remember it’s quite common to simply criticize Americans and please never let it bother you too much. kindest regards.

    • @PsychicZeldaKelly
      @PsychicZeldaKelly Před rokem +3

      @@MTknitter22 That's very kind of him. Thank you and it's also hilarious!

  • @terri-annemcsweeney3451
    @terri-annemcsweeney3451 Před 2 lety +14

    I loved this video. You make me smile so much. Being from Australia I would probably call you Julie and give you a hug. You are just the type of person I would love to be friends with❤️

  • @michaelevans1193
    @michaelevans1193 Před 2 lety +23

    Living near a colonial East Coast city, I was exposed to the Georgian style architecture as compared to the Federalist style (symmetrical vs asymmetrical).

    • @richenuff01
      @richenuff01 Před 2 lety +6

      I grew up in a town that was established in 1752 in Pennsylvania, and the founder was a true Loyalist. As all proper gentry, he named the streets and roads after the monarch and areas of Wales and England. He built his home in the true Georgian style, as well as commercial buildings. I was told that after War Of Independence, the colonies...now states...renamed the period as Federal to distance from English tradition. The styles still practiced and symmetry, e.g. five-part Georgian, but now called Federal Style.

  • @rhondamartin3575
    @rhondamartin3575 Před rokem +3

    My family history actually goes to all of these periods of history! Henry VIII is my 14th Great Uncle; Queen Elizabeth is my 11th cousin; The Stuart's, Tudors, Robert II is my 16th Great Grandfather; King Edward III my 17th Great Grandfather, etc.! I love our family history! It's amazing! It's so interesting to learn! I love the traditions and ceremony, the Baroque music, etc.!!! Thank you Julie!

  • @johndriscoll3933
    @johndriscoll3933 Před 2 lety +19

    I would like to learn more about Country House architecture. Managing table service sounds daunting (grabbing the wrong fork and all that). .

  • @anacosta5635
    @anacosta5635 Před 2 lety +30

    Absolutely, what a treat to learn more about the different architecture periods and see examples. Thanks Julie, for this introduction. Love your honesty about watching everyone else start to eat before picking up the correct cutlery.. I’ve done that too 😂!

  • @bookmouse2719
    @bookmouse2719 Před 2 lety +12

    When my Son married a girl who's Mother's family were more 'European' I had to get use to what I described as 'air kissing'. lol it's not that you made a mistake, it's that it's just culture shock. It still is culture shock for me.

  • @haplessdilettante
    @haplessdilettante Před 2 lety +5

    The Monetgus of Beaulieu in the New Forest? Must be fascinating to acquire a title (I'm a fellow yank and I've long fancied a Marquesate, but i doubt there's much call for new marcher lords, let alone from among foreign ex-colonials). Much enjoyment in sharing your experiences vicariously, so thank you.

  • @patriciacinea3097
    @patriciacinea3097 Před 2 lety +10

    Just found your Vlog last week and trying to catch up binge watching....saw your vintage dresses episode. If you haven't already, I would love to know more about millinery in Great Britain. Seems to have faded decades ago in the U. S. Would love to see women wearing beautiful hats again here.

  • @szendrich
    @szendrich Před 2 lety +51

    The table etiquette and the cheek-kissing as a form of polite greeting isn't just an aristocratic thing, you know. It's more of a British practice. My country, Malta, was a British colony up until half a century ago, and we have exactly the same British social practices at table and in greeting. Well, most of our mannerisms, actually, including the way we speak and write the English language. We never hug here either! 😊It's not considered polite unless you're intimate with a person. I did live in the US for a few years and I used to find the table etiquette confusing and actually very laborious compared to our ways. Because it's as you say, in America you hold the fork in your left while cutting, but you then change over and pick up the food pieces with the fork in your right hand. I used to think it very strange because they followed this method with every bite. Our way is much simpler, I think, because you keep the fork in the same hand all through the course. Then again, that's what makes culture so diverse.

    • @danabuck6461
      @danabuck6461 Před 2 lety +10

      Actually, in the US the fork/knife issue is not a right hand to cut food, then switch fork to right hand to eat thing. It is a dominant hand thing. As in use your dominant hand to cut the food, then bring your fork to the dominant hand to eat. Not everyone is right hand dominant.

    • @szendrich
      @szendrich Před 2 lety

      @@danabuck6461 Interesting observation. Thanks for that titbit, Dana.

    • @amazinggrace5692
      @amazinggrace5692 Před 2 lety +3

      And in general in the states you can eat any way that you re comfortable with. I don’t know about high society, but with everyday dining choose either method. I’ve always thought the one hand for knife and one for fork to be convenient, but it looks like it’s easy to speed eat and put the mouth with the tines of the fork down looks less classy to me. But to each is owned the idea is that all are welcome at the table. Except those who chew with their. mouth open. You have to eat alone in the kitchen lol. 💕🐝🇺🇸☃️

    • @szendrich
      @szendrich Před 2 lety +2

      @@amazinggrace5692 Sorry, etiquette is not really about feeling comfortable, although when you're used to eating our way, it's very comfortable indeed. 😃 Yes, tines of the fork facing down at the mouth is considered well-mannered in our neck of the woods, while the tines facing up is not. As they say, "When in Rome ..." and all that, so it's acceptable for an American in America to eat at their most comfortable, while in Europe, it is advisable to choose etiquette over comfort if you want to be socially acceptable.

    • @AGL01772
      @AGL01772 Před 2 lety +3

      I can relate to fork issue. I'm American and lived in London for 4 years. You could always tell the Americans by how they used their utensils.

  • @designsonyouinparis
    @designsonyouinparis Před rokem +2

    Viscountess Lady Julie, I have been a fan of you since “Ladies of London”. You are a true asset to your family and everyone around you. In addition, so industrious, hard working, a wonderful & supportive spouse and incredible mother to six children if my memory serves me right. I honestly don’t know how you do it all and, so perfectly.

  • @surfingtheoceanoftheinterwebs

    I have to say, with all the rules of a dinner party (tableware, speaking to the person next to you) which sounds VERY daunting (many of us here in the US (I'm in CA) still have problems at more simplified but formal dinners like banquets with more than one plate and glass 😂), I'd be inclined to just throw a pizza party--all hands on deck and mingle! LOL This was a fun video!

  • @AuroraChernobyl
    @AuroraChernobyl Před 2 lety +5

    From all the architectural styles in Great Britain, it is Georgian which I love the most.
    Because it seems to me that it represents the features of most of the European palaces and essential buildings, which quite complicated to me to understand about how different it is the Georgian with Rococco style.
    But I also really like Queen Anne style, it's like pretty doll houses, neat and so feminine.

  • @chizzieshark
    @chizzieshark Před 2 lety +51

    The table etiquette / setting the table issue isn't one of US vs UK culture, but social class. Most ordinary Brits wouldn't be able to tell soup spoon from a dessert spoon. But from what I understand, in both the US and UK (and also other British colonies), the upper class are trained in table etiquette.

    • @la_scrittice_vita
      @la_scrittice_vita Před 2 lety +9

      I agree. Educated Americans also know basic architecture labels and history, and what Georgian compared to Victorian furniture or silver look like.

    • @carolinemcnulty6169
      @carolinemcnulty6169 Před 2 lety +22

      Sorry to disagree but my parents were northern, working class but still managed to teach their children proper table etiquette, including soup and dessert spoons.

    • @mrsrbrown540
      @mrsrbrown540 Před 2 lety +5

      Every one has told me that I am very beautiful and very wonderful and very friendly and very most elegant lady. I know different between soup spoon and dessert spoon 🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Před 2 lety +6

      I don't know about today but I was taught about cutlery. A soup spoon is circular. Fish knives have blunt blades with pointed ends. Egg Spoons are tiny and maybe today a lot of people would think they were for small children, or for sugar.
      Knowing which cutlery to use was considered a sign of having been taught manners by many working class families too. As I mentioned though, I don't know about today. I doubt so many know to start a meal with the cutlery the furthest from the plate and that the water finger bowl isn't soup.
      Naturally left handed the one thing I still cannot manage is to eat with a knife in my right hand. Whenever I have tried the food has soon flown everywhere. So I always discreetly swapped the knife and fork into opposite hands.

    • @myriamickx7969
      @myriamickx7969 Před 2 lety +8

      Chizzie, I may surprise you: even in continental Europe, we are taught in table etiquette.

  • @melissaphillips3088
    @melissaphillips3088 Před 2 lety +46

    I would love to hear more of this Julie. It was wonderful and such a learning experience for me. Thanks Julie !!

  • @americaguillen9583
    @americaguillen9583 Před 2 lety +6

    Julie, you are an amazing woman. Your enthusiasm and energy is extraordinary. God bless you and Luke.

  • @VulcanTrekkie45
    @VulcanTrekkie45 Před 2 lety +5

    The useful thing to remember architecture-wise is that Stuart/Georgian basically is the same time period as Colonial and Federalist in America, and then we can go from there

  • @lj5801
    @lj5801 Před 2 lety +18

    American flatware: Off the top of my head I can come up with 20 individual place pieces (not counting serving pieces) in Reed & Barton's Francis I sterling from 1907 - not counting a possible further 3 if they made terrapin forks, game forks and game knives like other manufacturers of the time (I have personally never seen these in this pattern). 3 of these can be eliminated at a meal as you would not need a bouillon, a gumbo and an oval soup spoon or both a tea and a coffee spoon at the same time. America made way more silver pieces than the British, and this is not counting the pieces made for breakfast, lunch and children.
    You skipped two styles: William & Mary and Regency.

    • @goodegiggles
      @goodegiggles Před 2 lety +1

      My favorite flatware I have from my Grandmother are her set of iced tea spoons.

  • @lynda.grace.14
    @lynda.grace.14 Před 2 lety +5

    So impressed to gain a deeper understanding as to why you are doing your Masters in your chosen subject. As for your "serious faux pas" none are particularly significant in the sense that they are basically errors common to the acculturation process. You didn't have an education in this arena and now you are getting one. Exactly like learning anything. When people first learn to walk (or anything else they need or choose to learn), they don't really consider continuously landing on their diaper a "faux pas." It's merely an unavoidable part of the process of knowledge or skill acquisition.
    Any faux pas (IMHO) are on the part of nit-picking individuals who would choose to sneer at or shame someone else who is learning. Those who must establish their own "superiority" by looking down their noses at others who are "not quite our sort."
    Well done, you!

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 Před rokem +2

      Well-said @Lynda Grace, as some have said, being an aristocrat does not entitle you to rudeness or looking down on others. Character and kindness is for everyone in any setting.

    • @lynda.grace.14
      @lynda.grace.14 Před rokem +1

      @@MTknitter22 Gosh! I think Jane Austen had something to say on that very point in Pride & Prejudice.

  • @joannortham5517
    @joannortham5517 Před 2 lety +13

    Julie - I really love your videos and have watched most of them since you began posting. Getting to know you and Luke, your children and your in-laws has been such a treat. Your situation puts me in mind of a book I have read many times, written by an American and published during WWII. It was a huge hit with the reading public both here in Britain and in America, and Churchill commended it along with the black and white film, "Mrs Miniver" starring Greer Garson and Walter Pidgeon, released to boost morale during the war. The book is Alice Duer Miller's "The White Cliffs", and if you haven't read it, I hope you will, and that you resonate with the story she tells of a young American, Susan Dunne, meeting her match, marrying and settling in England on the verge of the First World War. It moves me to tears every time I read it - I guess I'm an old (78 yrs) sentimentalist. The story moves to WWII from WWI, and takes in the country manor in Devon, and the Lady Jean, Susan's mother in law, and a simply charming letter from Susan's American father, when he learns she is marrying an Englishman! Oh, and don't worry - you can get a copy on Amazon. Thanks again for showing us your beautiful Mapperton.

  • @platosphaedo9097
    @platosphaedo9097 Před rokem +3

    I learned at a very early age how to set a very formal table and proper etiquette. This was for our special and formal family occasions as well as dining out. Thank you for bringing me down memory lane. My adoptive family’s heritage was English and Scottish. My birth father’s family heritage was Italian. The different family dynamics (communication styles etc.) was quite interesting to see the cultural differences while all being Americans. Your videos are a pleasure. Much respect to you for learning and embracing, having a sense of humor about yourself and it all; rather than complaining.

  • @cherylcooper2739
    @cherylcooper2739 Před 2 lety +3

    Yes, I’m married to an architect and love the beautiful British buildings and the wide range of styles. Please give us a lesson. I ❤️ love ❤️ your videos!

  • @pamelareed973
    @pamelareed973 Před 2 lety +13

    It’s amazing all the traditions- that sounds like a great course to take , I would love to do something like that !! I love old houses and their history..

  • @susandahlem8585
    @susandahlem8585 Před 2 lety

    I am enjoying these so much! Thanks for letting us into your world. Cheers!

  • @babalonbarbie7352
    @babalonbarbie7352 Před rokem +1

    I've recently found your channel and I am very much enjoying your content. Thanks for putting it out there!

  • @rociogb9889
    @rociogb9889 Před 2 lety +4

    I love this kind of videos that explain etiquette. Thank you.

  • @jlpack62
    @jlpack62 Před 2 lety +16

    As an American with many, many years of eating casually like an American, the whole dining experience would completely stress me out!

    • @pamkalexander
      @pamkalexander Před 2 lety +3

      Good God...........such pretentious nonsense. Perhaps we just relate to each other as one human to another? Not all traditions continue to hold value

    • @PLuMUK54
      @PLuMUK54 Před 2 lety +4

      I'm a Brit and I've never been to a meal that formal. Very few people do. So if we were to be in the unfortunate position of having to attend, we would also be stressed.

    • @sallyannc3176
      @sallyannc3176 Před 2 lety +3

      @@PLuMUK54 you're right, few do but I still think it looks better manners to east with a knife and fork than cut it all up and then shovel it in with the fork! It's also helpful to know that when you've finished eating you place the knife and fork together on the plate - whereas if you leave them crossed on the plate waiting staff know you haven't finished eating and don't star clearing away.

    • @sknap2728
      @sknap2728 Před 2 lety +1

      I learned that you do not cut all your food up at once. You would use the knife to cut a bite, angle the knife tip on the plate, switch hands (dominant hand) to eat the bite. When you are finished, the knife and fork are placed onto the plate...similarly to how Julie showed except there is nothing specific about the fork tines, and your napkin moved from your lap to the side of your plate. If you needed to leave the table, but weren't finished eating, your napkin remained on your seat. Generally, the knife and fork were on the plate on opposite sides.

    • @chizzieshark
      @chizzieshark Před 2 lety +1

      This isn't an American thing though, it's a class thing. The upper crust in the States have just as many table manners and use just as much cutlery as the British aristocracy.

  • @itsmewende
    @itsmewende Před 2 lety +7

    The chatting at the dinner table, can't imagine what they'd think sitting at the table here in the states. Everyone talking to everyone, beside you, across from you, down the table from you, yeah can't imagine. Best wishes learning about all the architectural styles.

    • @anitajinfla9762
      @anitajinfla9762 Před 2 lety

      Yep.... Hating to interrupt mid conversation...Asking across the table and 5 people down to pass the salt!!
      LOL 😅

    • @itsmewende
      @itsmewende Před 2 lety

      @@anitajinfla9762 ....exactly =^)

  • @pammiedoodle8693
    @pammiedoodle8693 Před 2 lety +6

    Thoroughly enjoyed this episode!👍🏼
    So interesting and fun to learn some of the history and traditions of Great Britain.
    Thanks for sharing😊

  • @cathyfeigert5660
    @cathyfeigert5660 Před 2 lety +7

    This was both interesting and confusing to me at the same time. Kudos to you, I’d still be scrambling to understand it all. You are such a doll!

  • @lyndaryan5673
    @lyndaryan5673 Před 2 lety +2

    Very interesting Julie, you are very knowledgeable and love your sense of humour with the Viscount and his family, it other episodes I’ve now addicted to, very warm and entertaining bravo

  • @venusward5911
    @venusward5911 Před 2 lety +5

    Discovered your channel recently and really enjoy it a lot. I was introduced to the British way of eating when I lived in Swaziland for 10 years. I have been back in the Central US for over 30 years but still use both hands to eat much of the time.
    Just watched your video on the architecture of England. Your delineation of the time periods makes sense to me as I've been learning more about British history.
    I also enjoy your dialog with your "partners" when you discuss cultural and language differences. It is fun to identify what part of the world people come from when I hear them speaking English, particularly when they are from Africa.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @tokendiva
    @tokendiva Před 3 měsíci

    I’m so glad I found your CZcams channel. I absolutely adore it and look forward to every episode that you post. Thank you for your hard work and dedication. ❤

  • @Asterly1
    @Asterly1 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for taking the time to make these videos ❤️ I love your videos ❤️ and I love learning about other cultures. I really do appreciate the British culture. So as an American this is super new. Like with which hand to hold the fork and knife, as a lefty I naturally hold my fork in my left hand but that’s so interesting that holding the fork and knives in certain hands are a thing. I look forward to your future videos!

  • @anitajinfla9762
    @anitajinfla9762 Před 2 lety +2

    Goodness!
    Thanks for posting this, though I am sure you are on a constant learning curve.
    Fascinating to hear about the different architectural eras and styles. Love the fact that England has such history and absolutely beautiful places you can see and touch from hundreds of years ago.
    The designs of homes and out buildings, craftsmanship and hard labour that was put into them being built and fact that SO many are standing stronger today than any new builds. A lot of care and love I'm sure went into many of the homes during those centuries.
    Not sure which style is my favorite.

  • @suzettekitselman6914
    @suzettekitselman6914 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for this video Viscountess ! We would LOVE to see more in-depth videos about the historic houses of the United Kingdom ~ yes please! Really enjoying your show :)

  • @Burbankelly
    @Burbankelly Před 2 lety +2

    I have so much respect for you for getting your masters in Country House Studies! (From Texas)

  • @spiritchannel
    @spiritchannel Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you, Lady Hinchingbrooke for your always uplifting videos! Would LOVE to learn more about the period architecture and furniture! Blessings to you!

  • @joannecollis1543
    @joannecollis1543 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow Julie what a lot to have to remember in all aspects. I live in Australia and I'm a hugger as well. I have had to learn that some people are not huggers but most of my friends are. I love the fact that you are really down to earth and even though you could given your title, you don't put on airs and graces. You are just you. Brilliant.

  • @claritzaechevarria7693
    @claritzaechevarria7693 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your videos ! Recently subscribed so I can learn more and have acces to such a beautiful places and your content is very interesting, informative and very much appreciated. Thanks for your hard work and dedication . A beautifull home run by an amazing Lady. Blessings to you !

  • @rev.jesseabelchristianlife6693

    You have done marvelously!!!!! It's a huge adjustment!!!! Sending much love to You and Luke.

  • @wendyhart8968
    @wendyhart8968 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for explaining and yes please do more vlogs on period style and how to tell the differences. Love your channel

  • @gailtempleton1249
    @gailtempleton1249 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for another fascinating video! I'm loving all the different videos you put out, from your family life to all the historic homes. Wonderful! (PS, I, too, am a midwestern girl, having grown up in Ohio and Michigan.)

  • @betsomo4807
    @betsomo4807 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, first time of seeing you, great fun, thank you, love seeing our quirky customs through the eyes of another culture! Can't stop laughing about the different historical house styles at your own manor - you're way ahead of the pack on that. Not sure I'd realised Elizabethan is distinct from Tudor! 😂😂

  • @Wanderlust.428
    @Wanderlust.428 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for your video Julie! Always great to hear your stories that you share with all of us. Also wanted to thank you for getting me into Yoga. I started watching your older yoga videos at the beginning of 2020. Been practicing ever since and it has changed my life. Greetings from Boston!💐

  • @heatherboo1
    @heatherboo1 Před 2 lety +3

    I absolutely would love a discussion of architecture! It’s such a rich history and to imagine what these homes have seen!

  • @deannaevans5235
    @deannaevans5235 Před 2 lety +3

    I very much enjoyed hearing what mistakes you had made in your early years of being a Viscountess. In college I dated a young man who was French but grew up here in the States. I remember having dinner with them and not serving (helping) the right course in the correct order. LOL! I don't believe they liked me much! His mother did make the best cucumber salad I have every had. No idea how she made it though. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

  • @dorishawley2015
    @dorishawley2015 Před 2 lety

    Truly enjoyed learning more of the British history,looking for more history lessons.Thank you

  • @erikat5678
    @erikat5678 Před 2 lety +1

    Burghley House is one of my favorites! Lovely town, as well! Oh please do more on architecture of great houses. I am so jelly! (Envious of your ability to show these amazing homes)! 😄 Thank you!

  • @rebekahlow8375
    @rebekahlow8375 Před 2 lety

    Protocol has always interested me.I enjoyed hearing of your experiences.I hope you will share more stories in the future. Love from Vermont Love from Vermont

  • @Downloadeodeo
    @Downloadeodeo Před 2 lety +1

    That was very informative. I didn't know about the formal conversing order at table. Thank you 🌼🌸🌷 :D

  • @katiem6773
    @katiem6773 Před 2 lety +1

    So interesting Julie. I'd love to learn more about the architectural features of Mapperton. I like how people talk at the dinner table and switch at different courses. It gives everyone someone to talk to.

  • @carolsloss8440
    @carolsloss8440 Před 2 lety +1

    I just love your energy Julie.

  • @Christine-nt4lo
    @Christine-nt4lo Před 5 měsíci

    Great video! Loved it!

  • @jchow5966
    @jchow5966 Před 2 lety +11

    This is soooo interesting! I am an American who loves British Isles history - this channel is a pleasure - thank you so much!
    ☮️💟

  • @sharonellis9751
    @sharonellis9751 Před 2 lety +6

    I grew up in the Chicago suburbs and we had Dutch au pairs for many years and from them I learned "continental" style eating (fork in left, knife in right). It served me well when our family lived in Belgium for a few years and now I prefer it.

    • @spoosieoopsie1616
      @spoosieoopsie1616 Před 2 lety +1

      My dad had been in the USN and stationed for one tour in Japan. He taught my younger sister and I how to eat with only our left hand.
      When I later went to Germany (my husband was US Army) and went out to eat, no one believed that I was American! I was told that Americans are not polite because they take SO long to eat. In a busy restaurant, I could understand why.

    • @lizajoymorales248
      @lizajoymorales248 Před 2 lety +2

      @@spoosieoopsie1616 Come to Spain, where lunch is two hours or so and a Friday night dinner can last until midnight (of course, it starts late by US standards, around 9 o'clock or so).

    • @spoosieoopsie1616
      @spoosieoopsie1616 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lizajoymorales248 Sounds yummy!
      There's a little Guatemalan restaurant near where I live. My husband and I eat there frequently. They don't expect customers to "eat and run." We always chat during our meal so it can last quite a while! (Not three hours but longer than most Americans would take. We make sure to leave a slightly larger tip, since they didn't run us out! 🤗)

  • @marybeebe4293
    @marybeebe4293 Před 2 lety +6

    Well the One mistake you didn't make was that you could have changed your mind and not Marry into An Aristocracy Family (Well however it is spelled ) it's like your a Blessing on the family and their a Blessing to you You and your husband are like Soul Mates ❤️ your both so Down To Earth and for what the world is going through your CZcams channel let's people forget about all the bad stuff for awhile and get back to basics at least for me anyway so Thank You for that 💕

  • @AAviatrix
    @AAviatrix Před 2 lety

    Yes..yes.. please do more detailed videos on the various architectural styles/eras! That would be fascinating, especially if you could highlight the various features for example, in a "drawing" format that fades into actual pictures of the style discussed. You could do a video on each style/ era and break them down for us.
    Thanks for a great look at your life & we wish you & your family a blessed & prosperous New Year! 🎉👑🤩👍🏻🥂🍾🎉

  • @polishnorwegianandspanish9145

    Such a fascinating video. Very informative

  • @wandat5625
    @wandat5625 Před 2 lety +1

    Really enjoyed. You're such an interesting person. Funny too.

  • @helenlaboe1658
    @helenlaboe1658 Před 2 lety +1

    I so enjoy your channel. I live in the Midwest United States. Learning more about England is a hobby of mine. ❤️

  • @cleogurl79
    @cleogurl79 Před 27 dny

    Thank you for this! I must say, I binge-watch your videos. So educational and insightful. :)

  • @gwenewing6837
    @gwenewing6837 Před 2 lety

    I love hearing all these stories!

  • @sarahbethnorthington8749
    @sarahbethnorthington8749 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes please to the video on architectural styles of homes! I’ve always found it such a n interesting topic!

  • @sjames672
    @sjames672 Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to see more in-depth video on the architecture. I think you are very hard on yourself re errors, you are adorable and so respectful of Britain and traditions. It's a learning curve, we Brits would no doubt make faux pas if we went to live in the states.

  • @margarettwittty
    @margarettwittty Před 2 lety +2

    LOVE THESE!!!

  • @mandithompson8415
    @mandithompson8415 Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to see a video about Architecture and the history. I love all your informative videos so I can learn from them.

  • @lauraellen189
    @lauraellen189 Před 2 lety +1

    Greetings from Florissant MO not so very far from where you grew up! A very interesting video! I am loving your channel. I would love you to do more videos on architectural styles of Britian.

  • @lyndakling901
    @lyndakling901 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting ! Lots to learn!

  • @tonibaker8288
    @tonibaker8288 Před 2 lety

    Thanks so much...I have no idea how you keep up with it all!

  • @entyc_nm5493
    @entyc_nm5493 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd love to see that! I really like the Tudor homes

  • @christinejesson-valore6439

    My parents went to Sicily to visit relatives. They were very hungry so when the antipasto was served, mother thought it was dinner. My parents gorged themselves only to discover that there were many more dishes to come. She kept apologizing, bless her heart. Unfortunately most did not speak English so it fell on mute ears. They did have a cousin come over to translate for them all. Oh, my. . .

  • @nelsonrumayor6650
    @nelsonrumayor6650 Před 2 lety

    I really love your explanations. Thank you very much.

  • @longwaytotipperary
    @longwaytotipperary Před 2 lety

    Love this content!