I did not include Madara and Obito because they are not even allies really. They'd be the only team on this list that legitimately hate and try to backstab each other. Also the ten tails was doing most of their work anyway.
Understandable but Hidan and Kakuzu didn’t like each other. Madara and Obito did fight against Kakashi, Bee, Naruto, and Guy. They synchronized their jutsu against that team as well.
Tobyrama doesn’t even consider it just does it Naruto would give Uchihas respect and political power. Kakashi dose the same Tsunade probably uses it as an opportunity to get rid of danzo minato negotiate, and comes up with a compromise Hashirama they don’t even think of rebelling
Chiyo and Sakura can easily be low kage levels. Chiyo had a ton of experience, two S-level jutsu (10 puppets and the one that gives life for the puppets). Sakura is a healer and heavy hitter. She was able to detect Kakashi during the bell test underground by punching the ground (even Yahico Pain was not able to find Kakashi when he was using his underground technique with raikiri). In corporation with Team Asuma (the one that went against Hidan), they would easily stomp them. Even Chiyo alone with the 10 white puppets... Lot of CZcamsrs sleep on Chiyo because she says at the end of her fight that Sasori wanted to die. Thats okay but Chiyo still countered every jutsu that Sasori used. Even the fuckin Third Kazekage's iron sand. One of the strongest jutsu in early Shipuuden...
12:54 Kurenai is one of the newest elite jonin that Kakashi mentions. She's in the tier with Asuma and Kakashi and Gai just at the bottom. And Kiba is slept on too because he was dealing with a pain path his mom
Sound 4 are not beating 2 fresh Joinin in a fight…. Remember those Joinins was coming back from a mission nearly out of chakra and the sound 4 still needed version 2 to put them down But as a group I agree with the placement
1. We know nothing about Hiruzen power wise until he is hokage. Those 3 may have never even teamed up. 2. They never worked as a whole plus they are an organization. 3. That's an army not a team.
Hokage Minato is definitely on the God tier, all things considered. Plus, putting him below Itachi and Nagato when they both admit direct inferiority to Orange Mask Obito, who Minato is stronger than is ingenious. I mean he countered Kamui after seeing it used one time (Only one to figure a counter minus Kakashi, but he had Obito’s to do so), was able to beat Obito in 2 moves and his third cut the connection from Kurama, his rasengan was improved from when he was a chunin (which would out his AP at the minimum of Kurama’s full power bijuu bomb), able to teleport a jubi biju bomb away and have a whole conversation before any of the other edo Kage were in sight (meaning Minato could speed blitz and kill base Hashirama, who is compared to EMS Madara, if not slightly weaker), reaction speeds that exceed the speed of 8 Gates Guy, has sealing the highest sealing level of anyone in the series, and was narratively implied to be as strong or stronger than KCM 2 Naruto (Kakashi saw Naruto’s power in KCM 2 and thought it was Minato, making it the time where he caught up to Minato, jus like when Sage Mode him was compared to Jiraiya).
@@xxxtimeghostxxx yea or just talking about them without ranking them is fine too. Ranking the ideologies would be very opinionated but there are some objective points that can be made to back up the placements to an extent
You missed a vital piece of information with the Sound 4 ranking, they defeated two jonin yes, but those were two exhausted Jonin who just came back from a mission that and had both mentioned that they were completely out of chakra, so the fact that they had to go Curse mark 2 to defeat these along with them saying that they were actually having difficulties with that fight would mean that they would probably be around high chunin at best imo
unless i'm missing something the "team of 8" should be kage level. It contains post pain fight naruto and kakashi with sakura as decent support and healing. Sage naruto is heavily implied as surpassing the sannin which puts him at kage level possibly high kage and kakashi is strong enough to always be relevent even in kage level fights. (i think that team was around the time of the kage summit unless that team was at an earlier point in the story i don't remember in which case disregard my comment but if hidan and kakazu are kage level and team of 8 is basically a superior version of the team that beat them in the original story how are they not kage level?)
I agree with you 100 percent there is no way kakazu and hidan stand a chance against that team of 8. Naruto alone should be able to beat kakuzu and hidan without much difficulty. Having Kakashi, yamato, Sakura, and team 8 to help him would make it even easier. I really don't understand this guys logic when it comes to ranking this team. I mean I feel like you could argue that team of 8 can beat taka as well because naruto should be able to take on Sasuke and stalemate him while the rest of the team will destroy the rest of taka. You could probably even have Kakashi help naruto while the rest of the team takes on Karin, jugo, and suigetsu.
5:35 No. Just no. Temari was the perfect counter for Tenten. Tenten would definitely beat Sakura, Hinata, Kin and Ino. What would they do against dozens of kunai coming in their direction? Hinata could air palm some of them but not all of them. She's the strongest Kunoichi in the exams besides Temari.
Suigetsu saves Saskue 29:43 multiple times in that fight, he blocked Bee's swordslash and later reacted to V1 Raikage to protect his team and both times it was like from the other side of the battle field lmao. He also holds his own against Kisame, though Kisame was outclassing him
Yo Horizons, could you do a video on the fact that characters in Naruto only like him because Naruto is strong. For example, Ino, Shikamaru, Yamato, and especially Kakashi. They don't laugh at his jokes, train with him, or eat ramen with him. The only person who liked Naruto unconditionally was Hinata. And that's why they ended up together
@@___________0Z0X Sasuke and Naruto are fated to be together and is Sasuke is Naruto's rival. If Naruto wasn't strong he'd be useless to Sasuke as a rival and their relationship wouldn't grow. They have no common interests, don't joke around, eat ramen together or even act like friends. Iruka mostly feels bad for Naruto and feels responsible for Naruto as his teacher. Iruka is the nurturing type and can't consciously abandon a kid like the 3rd Hokage did. But he didn't start off genuinely liking Naruto. Hinata is the only person who genuinely likes Naruto just for being him. I'm not saying this idea is perfect but I believe it's interesting to think about.
15:24 my theory is that Gai's 8 gates boost isn't as strong and doesn't last as long in part one which is why Kakashi can fight him but Gai's team would still be stronger with him present in the arcs where they are left behind because they would change shit
Why are we not giving credit to team asuma in war arc took down asuma ginkaku and kinkaku just bc you didn’t like it doesn’t mean it’s nonsense 😂😂 you literally said choji took over the battlefield
Imo Chiyo + mental amp sakura deserves to be low Kage level. I understand that the fight was VERY stacked against Sasori, but someone who by all accounts should be vaguely base Sannin level with chakra shields poison weapons and Bijuu tier sealing jutsu AND the ability to control her enemies movements + being able to control a medic ninja who can punch as hard as young Tsunade who can also read & adapt to enemy attack patterns while she’s being controlled is a very good combo. I think if they fought Hidan and Kakuzu they could easily dispatch of Hidan and push Kakuzu to his limits. I just can’t see most Jonin level teams matching that.
Sasori don't scale to any of them. Sakura could not see sasori's attacks and would have died against his 1st puppet. On top of that even after sasori was stabbed Sakura lost consciousness and choy was poisoned which means if sasori would have dodged the last attack (which he could have) they would have been fucked. Even after him holding back on them a lot and then having prep time they still would have lost.
Kakuzu would smoke them tbh. Them 2 vs kakuzu wouldn’t go well for them to the point he wouldn’t lose any hearts lol. Them beating hidan isn’t anything spectacular. Yes they’re strong together but making a case by adding hidan and kakuzu to your paragraph wasn’t necessary fam
@@Travisej2 Kakuzu got consistently reacted to by base Kakashi and fatigued KN0 post training Naruto (who isn’t even stronger than Kakashi outside of his Rasenshuriken which he can’t reliably use on his own), Chiyo has better speed feats, can block and react to the iron sands fastest form with her chakra shields, has poison, has 10 of the strongest puppets in existence (against a guy that can’t even keep track of 3-4 shadow clones), fought against Mifune as an Edo with no puppets, can literally take control of Hidan’s body and weapons, and Bijuu level sealing jutsu. Sakura canonically punches harder than Kakuzu since Kakashi said that one of her hits would one tap him if they connected while Kakashi ate a kick to the gut from Kakuzu at close range and got back up no problem. Saying he “smokes Chiyo” is a fantasy even if he does beat her. I compared them to the zombie duo because they’re the weakest or “entry level” Kage tier duo.
@@tythegreatttgthat mf could only scratch sakura up until the end after surprising them with jutsu, and you can say they had prep but they still went in not knowing most of what sasori could do meanwhile sasori had figured out sakuras abilities and already knew all about chiyo except maybe her wooden arm bro is overhyped in the powerscaling community
@@chefkefatien7049 bro what are you talking about. Sakura litterly said she could not see any of his attacks and would have died against his 1st puppet. Choy knew EVERYTHING about sasori besides him being a puppet himself. On top of that sasori was holding back on them the whole time bc he was conflicted which mentally nerfed him. That was chou's plan that's why she brought out the mom and dad puppet to mental fuck with sasori which worked. Since he was nerf they wouldn't scale to a full power sasori. Like no you dumbass he is underrated in the power scaling community. Most ppl think he lost to Sakura and that he is weak bc he was the first member to die. Which are both dumb. Even after he god stabbed Sakura litterly passed out and choy was poisoned. Choy even said he could have dodged the attack but didn't. Which means if he did they would have been FUCK. Not only was he nerf most of the fight, someone knew mostly everything about him, and someone had a cure for his poison, they still would have lost to sasori. Yes I think he is stronger than deidara and yes I think he is stronger than kakazu. He is top 5 strongest in the group.
Tbf i think while minato being demi god is fine, his team pulls him down a lot for me, for example look at his tier, you have itachi and kisame, if team minato were to face them, only guy that can do anything is minato, the only reason why the team is solid is because minato ftg provides great defense for the other members
@@monarh3907 if the totsuka blade could have absorbed I. Itachi would’ve done it against nagato and how would the water shark bomb absorb it if it would just get slammed against all of rocks and sealed along with everything else they’d both get sealed instantly
10:53 Baki is the strongest and elite jonin but he beat a special jonin, Hayate Gekko. He's weaker than Shura based off of feats because Shura took out his entire anbu squad
@@New_Horizons yeah they didn't fight together but they did split their enemies up and Kabuto is really strong. It's just I don't know how else Sage Kabuto was getting on this list otherwise and adding Deidara made it interesting.
@@New_Horizons a little but I'm not a dickrider. Just think the should've somehow made it on the list because scaling him is important if messy. It would be funny to rank him differently based on how many edo tensei he summons at any given moment in the war. I'm shocked he didn't have any to back him up when he fought Itachi and Saskue, though he is very strong
@@Sweetlesishere lol out of the comments I've read you are the first kabuto fan. I've given him his flowers in some of my other videos. He's overlooked because he is not a likable person, but is a well written character.
Previous generations of ino shika cho were war veterans and some of the most noble elites in the leaf village, so saying that most they can achieve together is winning a jonin seems pretty weird. Hidan and kakazu at most low kage level. Gaara lost to deidara only because he focused mostly on protecting the village and not defeating him, and still lost to the very last play deidara could make. And he had no support from his brothers. Sasuke and his team fighting killer b are on a different league with deidara and sasory though it seems that you switched them. Then, A on himself is a high kage, so his team should be able to deal with one. Kisame and Itachi or team minato (yeah minato defeated a 14 yo obito, not really a demigod level opponent) at demigod level pure nonsense (sorry).
I really dont understand this guys logic when ranking the team of 8 that was searcing for itachi and sasuke. Naruto was high kage level himself when he was a part of that squad. Not to mention kakashi was at least low kage level approaching kage level himself. That followed by a high jonin in yamato, and sakura with the rest of the team being jonin level with sensory abilities. I dont see how Kakuzu and Hidan could fair even slightly against that team. Naruto should be able to beat them by himself, but with help its a done deal. That team of 8 could argulably and most likely in my opinion defeat taka. However i agree with everything else on the list completely. This is the only thing I dont understand. Great job on the video.
naruto is low kage at that point,he only has a rasenshuriken that he can't even throw,and it's been shown that he uses it once,injures himself and exhausts and incapoacitates himself,naruto becomes like 1-2 tiers above high kage when he learns sage mode(straight from low kage) it's a huge boost.the rest of the team are not jonin level,hinata is not ,kiba is not,maybe shino is but just barely
@ImagineBeingALeftist yeah I don't see how those could beat this team. I was getting that team of 8 mixed up with the squad during the 5 kage summit that was going with naruto to talk to the raikage.
@@New_Horizonswouldn't Nagato counter all Madara's jutsu just by absorbing it and possibly absorb Susanoo because its just chakra too. Also Madara besides Human path absorbtion can't really seal them , Nagato can always counter that by Shinra tensei him away and Itachi just has to stay in his Susanoo with Yata mirror and Totsuka blade always ready to use.
@@New_Horizons you were like saying rasa was mid kage, but raikage was just "kage" level, im assuming low kage, then kage then mid kage then high kage, so if rasa is mid kage, hes above 3rd ay then?
Team 10 war arc is easily mid tier kage possibly high tier Chouji hold his own against gedo statue a literal mid kage or low kage summon Shikamaru is easily high jonin at that point Ino jonin to High jonin considering she hold her own with only taijutsu against asuma something that is not her specialty
Uchihas - they would be much weaker than senjus Alliance - because of that senjus and uchihas would form an alliance Peace - therw wouldnt be wars between countries Tobirama - he would live much longer Nagato - he would still have his parents, same for yahiko and konan Legendary sannins - orochimaru tsunade and jiraiya would be known as legendary sannins Tsunade - her boyfriend and brother would still be alive Jiraiya - he wouldnt travel around the world Obito - he would be alive since there would be no war Kakashi - he wouldnt have sharingan Rin - she would be alive and probably married with obito Nine tails - there wouldnt be nine tails attack on konoha Minato and kushina - they would be alive Naruto - he would have happy childhood Uchihas - uchiha clan wouldnt be destroyed Sasuke - he wouldnt be that edgy Itachis ms - he wouldnt awaken it since shisui is alive Nagato - he wouldnt get rinnegan Akatsuki - there wouldnt be akatsuki Narusaku - naruto would prpbably marry sakura No boruto - this is the best part
I understand your reason for Pain and Konan being lower than Itachi and Kisame. But I disagree, I think both are the same tier. I would put Itachi and Kisame down, cause I think Itachi's sickness is a big nerf and I don't think that Kisame is that much stronger than Konan. Both Low Demigod
1:13:35 bro switch BM Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi with Edo Nagato and Itachi. BM Naruto is more powerful than either Edo Nagato or Edo Itachi, that group whom fought tailed beasts + tobi with Rinnegan should be peak demigod
Sasuke saved Itachi as many times as Itachi saved him against Kabuto, and i'm generous because one time Sasuke wasn't even being targeted, Itachi simply miscalculated Kabuto's intentions and got himself impaled as a result.
@@spit-fire No because Kabuto was about to rewrite the seal and make him his pawn again, Sasuke had to bail him out. Itachi himself apologizes to Sasuke for fucking up.
ik outside of the Power scaling community there's only trash talk for sasori but I still just don't buy all the hype he gets especially when I see people scaling him to WA garaa
What’s there to “buy” exactly? He’s just factually>the strongest Kazekage in history. His ONLY fight ever is against a) Chiyo, who has no anti feats and when she was younger fought prime Hanzo many times and had direct intel on many of his abilities b) A Sakura with a mental amp who was being controlled by Chiyo as a weapon for 99% of the fight AND had the skills to create the only antidote in the world to his poison. The fight was so hilariously stacked against him and he STILL was gonna win, he just chose to die at the last second because Chiyo’s psyop worked on him. I’ve analyzed that entire fight MANY times so I can safely say that fandoms perception of it is almost entirely wrong and headcanon.
Well ppl scale him to the beginning of the WA before Gaara gets the gold dust. Sasori would scale closer to kage summit gaara. The thing ppl don't talk about is that Sakura and choy had prep time that litterly helped them not get one shot by sasori's poison. Every time sasori hit them they would have died kinda like Danzo vs Sasuke. Sakura could not even see sasori attacking and she even said she would have died against his 1st puppet.
@@hobbyhorse5848 that last second and first interaction are the only times you can say he was “holding back” or running into his own death but think about how dangerous magnetic sand is and the 100 puppet dance yet a few antidotes forgives him for only barley scratching them a couple times? no thats what i wont buy and he’s talking to himself reaffirming that sakura isn’t a joke so theres no reason to say he continued not taking them seriously and theres still moments in the fight that sakura isn’t being controlled and keeps up with sasori i highly recommend a review before scaling sasori and yeah chiyo has impressive background fighting prime danzo but after some lapping around some sanin scaling later on it’s more than safe enough to say they got a whole lot stronger so they could each be scaled above chiyo, you have to assume chiyo got weaker bcz as it stands she gets ran over against the sanin its also likely she was too mentally nerfed most of the fight and holding back from what her expression was after seeing sasori’s face and not using her best puppets off the bat
Also they are crazy to think he's above low kage level,they keep bringing back that thing that he killed the 3rd kazekage,even though he could've just poisoned him,killed him in his sleep or assasinated him,doesn't mean he was stronger to do that,they also do the same to tobirama,they keep saying he died to kinkaku and ginkaku even though these 2 had the help of presumably 20 other elite jounin and when they get reanimated they think tobirama bought them back,they literally don't even know that he died,he might have died from his wounds after killing those jouning and the 2 brothers(that also had kurama v2 modes) or maybe he died cause he ran out of chakra like kakashi did after fighting pain@@nwk1626 but use this to say tobirama is weak
I did not include Madara and Obito because they are not even allies really. They'd be the only team on this list that legitimately hate and try to backstab each other. Also the ten tails was doing most of their work anyway.
I did not include Madara and Obito because they are not even allies really. They'd be the only team on this list that legitimately hate and try to backstab each other. Also the ten tails was doing most of their work anyway.
can u rank every fight in naruto
I've thought about it. I struggle ranking subjective topics.
Understandable but Hidan and Kakuzu didn’t like each other. Madara and Obito did fight against Kakashi, Bee, Naruto, and Guy. They synchronized their jutsu against that team as well.
Great video btw.
mei suppose have blue hair
Yoo can you do a video on how each hokage handles the uchiha massacre
That actually is an excellent suggestion
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That’s a fire concept no cap
Tobyrama doesn’t even consider it just does it Naruto would give Uchihas respect and political power. Kakashi dose the same Tsunade probably uses it as an opportunity to get rid of danzo minato negotiate, and comes up with a compromise Hashirama they don’t even think of rebelling
yes
Could you do more philosophy videos on Naruto
Rly love these long vids from u. They are just so chill to listen to.
To be fair the two jonin the sound 4 beat were already almost out of Chakra.
Ten ten existing dragging down her team’s tier is wild.
Can you do a ranking of all the reanimations from the war arc?
I'll write it down.
Chiyo and Sakura can easily be low kage levels. Chiyo had a ton of experience, two S-level jutsu (10 puppets and the one that gives life for the puppets). Sakura is a healer and heavy hitter. She was able to detect Kakashi during the bell test underground by punching the ground (even Yahico Pain was not able to find Kakashi when he was using his underground technique with raikiri). In corporation with Team Asuma (the one that went against Hidan), they would easily stomp them. Even Chiyo alone with the 10 white puppets...
Lot of CZcamsrs sleep on Chiyo because she says at the end of her fight that Sasori wanted to die. Thats okay but Chiyo still countered every jutsu that Sasori used. Even the fuckin Third Kazekage's iron sand. One of the strongest jutsu in early Shipuuden...
About the itachi/nagato team, imagine amaterasu + shinra tensei aoe
it hit different when he calls haiku she multiple times
12:54 Kurenai is one of the newest elite jonin that Kakashi mentions. She's in the tier with Asuma and Kakashi and Gai just at the bottom. And Kiba is slept on too because he was dealing with a pain path his mom
Sound 4 are not beating 2 fresh Joinin in a fight…. Remember those Joinins was coming back from a mission nearly out of chakra and the sound 4 still needed version 2 to put them down
But as a group I agree with the placement
Correct. They admitted they needed to use CS2 just to beat 2 exhausted Jounin.
i enjoyed this so much ty
what about
1. HIruzen + hashirama + tobirama,
2. the akatsuki as a whole?
3. shinobi alliance
1. We know nothing about Hiruzen power wise until he is hokage. Those 3 may have never even teamed up.
2. They never worked as a whole plus they are an organization.
3. That's an army not a team.
18:57 you make a good point about Chiyo never becoming a kage but she did deal with prime Tsunade
Can't believe you didn't include every part 1 filler team that naruto was on smh
Yeah, make the video twice as long lol.
Before watching the video
I hope you are putting my favourite duo,sasori and deidara into a high kage tier
high kage is crazy
@@TheProphetLotthe way Deidara fights Ohnoki who is high kage by himself, nah.
@@Sweetlesishere ok
Hokage Minato is definitely on the God tier, all things considered. Plus, putting him below Itachi and Nagato when they both admit direct inferiority to Orange Mask Obito, who Minato is stronger than is ingenious. I mean he countered Kamui after seeing it used one time (Only one to figure a counter minus Kakashi, but he had Obito’s to do so), was able to beat Obito in 2 moves and his third cut the connection from Kurama, his rasengan was improved from when he was a chunin (which would out his AP at the minimum of Kurama’s full power bijuu bomb), able to teleport a jubi biju bomb away and have a whole conversation before any of the other edo Kage were in sight (meaning Minato could speed blitz and kill base Hashirama, who is compared to EMS Madara, if not slightly weaker), reaction speeds that exceed the speed of 8 Gates Guy, has sealing the highest sealing level of anyone in the series, and was narratively implied to be as strong or stronger than KCM 2 Naruto (Kakashi saw Naruto’s power in KCM 2 and thought it was Minato, making it the time where he caught up to Minato, jus like when Sage Mode him was compared to Jiraiya).
I wish we could have seen a hiruzen team, that would be incredible
why not use edo madara and rinnegan obito as a team too though
Ranking hokages ideologies or every major villain’s ideology in naruto.
ranking every ideology in naruto sounds fun
@@xxxtimeghostxxx yea or just talking about them without ranking them is fine too. Ranking the ideologies would be very opinionated but there are some objective points that can be made to back up the placements to an extent
wish you included team obito+madara
where would you put them?
God tier without the ten tails, six paths with the ten tails.
great list!
we need that A + Onoki video
6:46 Nope. They were special jounin. Special jounin are only jounin level in one stat
And even if they were regular jonin, their chakra supply was low due to coming back from a recent mission..
Genma is a respectable joinin. Respected enough to reff the exam finals. Look at his stats and missions he’s completed in the data book.
Same thing for pain and konan, when goin up against naruto and bee, if she has no prep shes significantly holding pain back
Yk its abt to be a good night when NH uploads
You missed a vital piece of information with the Sound 4 ranking, they defeated two jonin yes, but those were two exhausted Jonin who just came back from a mission that and had both mentioned that they were completely out of chakra, so the fact that they had to go Curse mark 2 to defeat these along with them saying that they were actually having difficulties with that fight would mean that they would probably be around high chunin at best imo
Nice vid
Banger
Any team with guy should be top
4:44 they did have a mostly unnamed sensei with spikey blonde hair and glasses he is a spy for the Orochimaru but he's only shown in a few scenes
unless i'm missing something the "team of 8" should be kage level. It contains post pain fight naruto and kakashi with sakura as decent support and healing. Sage naruto is heavily implied as surpassing the sannin which puts him at kage level possibly high kage and kakashi is strong enough to always be relevent even in kage level fights. (i think that team was around the time of the kage summit unless that team was at an earlier point in the story i don't remember in which case disregard my comment but if hidan and kakazu are kage level and team of 8 is basically a superior version of the team that beat them in the original story how are they not kage level?)
Team 8 is Hinata kiba and shino
nah the team *of* 8 mention in the low kage portion of the video (at least thats what he called it)@@justtheon5903
I agree with you 100 percent there is no way kakazu and hidan stand a chance against that team of 8. Naruto alone should be able to beat kakuzu and hidan without much difficulty. Having Kakashi, yamato, Sakura, and team 8 to help him would make it even easier. I really don't understand this guys logic when it comes to ranking this team. I mean I feel like you could argue that team of 8 can beat taka as well because naruto should be able to take on Sasuke and stalemate him while the rest of the team will destroy the rest of taka. You could probably even have Kakashi help naruto while the rest of the team takes on Karin, jugo, and suigetsu.
5:35 No. Just no. Temari was the perfect counter for Tenten. Tenten would definitely beat Sakura, Hinata, Kin and Ino. What would they do against dozens of kunai coming in their direction? Hinata could air palm some of them but not all of them. She's the strongest Kunoichi in the exams besides Temari.
Suigetsu saves Saskue 29:43 multiple times in that fight, he blocked Bee's swordslash and later reacted to V1 Raikage to protect his team and both times it was like from the other side of the battle field lmao. He also holds his own against Kisame, though Kisame was outclassing him
Hebi sasuke alone solos hidan and kakuzu.
Yo Horizons, could you do a video on the fact that characters in Naruto only like him because Naruto is strong. For example, Ino, Shikamaru, Yamato, and especially Kakashi. They don't laugh at his jokes, train with him, or eat ramen with him. The only person who liked Naruto unconditionally was Hinata. And that's why they ended up together
Him and Lee got along pretty well. also Jeriah and him had a great relationship.
@@___________0Z0X Lee only liked Naruto because he beat neji. Jirayah agreed to train Naruto after seeing Sexy Jutsu and because of Minato
@@TortillaBill Iruka and Sasuke risked their lives for him too.
@@___________0Z0X Sasuke and Naruto are fated to be together and is Sasuke is Naruto's rival. If Naruto wasn't strong he'd be useless to Sasuke as a rival and their relationship wouldn't grow. They have no common interests, don't joke around, eat ramen together or even act like friends.
Iruka mostly feels bad for Naruto and feels responsible for Naruto as his teacher. Iruka is the nurturing type and can't consciously abandon a kid like the 3rd Hokage did. But he didn't start off genuinely liking Naruto. Hinata is the only person who genuinely likes Naruto just for being him.
I'm not saying this idea is perfect but I believe it's interesting to think about.
@@TortillaBill I agree, I’m just trying to help you bounce ideas.
44:05 yeah they did press Obito and in the war Torune is pretty powerful by himself
asuma is high jonin, behind kakashi and guy he is the strongest jonin in the village plus he is part of the 12 guardian shinobi and hes a sarutobi
sakura the goat
21:45 they're in the Akatsuki suppression team so I feel like they should be in low kage but otherwise I agree
15:24 my theory is that Gai's 8 gates boost isn't as strong and doesn't last as long in part one which is why Kakashi can fight him but Gai's team would still be stronger with him present in the arcs where they are left behind because they would change shit
Dude Haku is a BOY A BOYYYY😅
yooo let''s go
Why are we not giving credit to team asuma in war arc took down asuma ginkaku and kinkaku just bc you didn’t like it doesn’t mean it’s nonsense 😂😂 you literally said choji took over the battlefield
Minato the demigod who got hurt by a stick what a joke 🤣🤣🤣
he is definetly demi god
You forgot the sage of six paths and his brother that team is op
They should have made a Madara and Obito team
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Imo Chiyo + mental amp sakura deserves to be low Kage level. I understand that the fight was VERY stacked against Sasori, but someone who by all accounts should be vaguely base Sannin level with chakra shields poison weapons and Bijuu tier sealing jutsu AND the ability to control her enemies movements + being able to control a medic ninja who can punch as hard as young Tsunade who can also read & adapt to enemy attack patterns while she’s being controlled is a very good combo. I think if they fought Hidan and Kakuzu they could easily dispatch of Hidan and push Kakuzu to his limits. I just can’t see most Jonin level teams matching that.
Sasori don't scale to any of them. Sakura could not see sasori's attacks and would have died against his 1st puppet. On top of that even after sasori was stabbed Sakura lost consciousness and choy was poisoned which means if sasori would have dodged the last attack (which he could have) they would have been fucked. Even after him holding back on them a lot and then having prep time they still would have lost.
Kakuzu would smoke them tbh. Them 2 vs kakuzu wouldn’t go well for them to the point he wouldn’t lose any hearts lol. Them beating hidan isn’t anything spectacular. Yes they’re strong together but making a case by adding hidan and kakuzu to your paragraph wasn’t necessary fam
@@Travisej2 Kakuzu got consistently reacted to by base Kakashi and fatigued KN0 post training Naruto (who isn’t even stronger than Kakashi outside of his Rasenshuriken which he can’t reliably use on his own), Chiyo has better speed feats, can block and react to the iron sands fastest form with her chakra shields, has poison, has 10 of the strongest puppets in existence (against a guy that can’t even keep track of 3-4 shadow clones), fought against Mifune as an Edo with no puppets, can literally take control of Hidan’s body and weapons, and Bijuu level sealing jutsu. Sakura canonically punches harder than Kakuzu since Kakashi said that one of her hits would one tap him if they connected while Kakashi ate a kick to the gut from Kakuzu at close range and got back up no problem. Saying he “smokes Chiyo” is a fantasy even if he does beat her. I compared them to the zombie duo because they’re the weakest or “entry level” Kage tier duo.
@@tythegreatttgthat mf could only scratch sakura up until the end after surprising them with jutsu, and you can say they had prep but they still went in not knowing most of what sasori could do meanwhile sasori had figured out sakuras abilities and already knew all about chiyo except maybe her wooden arm
bro is overhyped in the powerscaling community
@@chefkefatien7049 bro what are you talking about. Sakura litterly said she could not see any of his attacks and would have died against his 1st puppet. Choy knew EVERYTHING about sasori besides him being a puppet himself. On top of that sasori was holding back on them the whole time bc he was conflicted which mentally nerfed him. That was chou's plan that's why she brought out the mom and dad puppet to mental fuck with sasori which worked. Since he was nerf they wouldn't scale to a full power sasori.
Like no you dumbass he is underrated in the power scaling community. Most ppl think he lost to Sakura and that he is weak bc he was the first member to die. Which are both dumb. Even after he god stabbed Sakura litterly passed out and choy was poisoned. Choy even said he could have dodged the attack but didn't. Which means if he did they would have been FUCK. Not only was he nerf most of the fight, someone knew mostly everything about him, and someone had a cure for his poison, they still would have lost to sasori. Yes I think he is stronger than deidara and yes I think he is stronger than kakazu. He is top 5 strongest in the group.
I love how bro said for part 1 team 7 that Naruto and Sasuke are chunin and Kakashi is a Jonin and Sakura is useless LMAO.
36:35 I feel like they're so ass because Naruto beat Kakazu by himself. Beating the two tails does look good but its still a weaker beast.
Tbf i think while minato being demi god is fine, his team pulls him down a lot for me, for example look at his tier, you have itachi and kisame, if team minato were to face them, only guy that can do anything is minato, the only reason why the team is solid is because minato ftg provides great defense for the other members
This is one of the stupidest videos I’ve watched but You have a soothing voice to sleep to so we’ll ride
its a good video,u wanna see a stupid video check j the great tierlist or swagkage and six
"i dont wanna put tenten on the six paths tier" smh they hate to see a girlboss winning (jk good video)
Trippin on itachi and kisame above pain and konan what they gonna do against planetary devastation
Its possible Kisames shark bomb could absorb the core, its possible Totsuka blade can seal jutsu too, because it s stated that it can seal anything.
@@monarh3907 if the totsuka blade could have absorbed I. Itachi would’ve done it against nagato and how would the water shark bomb absorb it if it would just get slammed against all of rocks and sealed along with everything else they’d both get sealed instantly
Where’s 4 hokage team?
13:58 this is my first disagreement because Shikamaru's dad is smartest ever and Choza is listed as the highest war potential.
10:53 Baki is the strongest and elite jonin but he beat a special jonin, Hayate Gekko. He's weaker than Shura based off of feats because Shura took out his entire anbu squad
That fight between sound 4 and the two Jonin was like a stalemate
Nope two jonin delayed them but lost
Almost half off the 7 swordsmen of the mist got taken down but one Genin Might Gai where’s that
Shocked you didn't do Kabuto and Deidara tbh
They barely worked together and were not that significant.
@@New_Horizons yeah they didn't fight together but they did split their enemies up and Kabuto is really strong. It's just I don't know how else Sage Kabuto was getting on this list otherwise and adding Deidara made it interesting.
are you a sage mode kabuto fan?
@@New_Horizons a little but I'm not a dickrider. Just think the should've somehow made it on the list because scaling him is important if messy. It would be funny to rank him differently based on how many edo tensei he summons at any given moment in the war. I'm shocked he didn't have any to back him up when he fought Itachi and Saskue, though he is very strong
@@Sweetlesishere lol out of the comments I've read you are the first kabuto fan. I've given him his flowers in some of my other videos. He's overlooked because he is not a likable person, but is a well written character.
Previous generations of ino shika cho were war veterans and some of the most noble elites in the leaf village, so saying that most they can achieve together is winning a jonin seems pretty weird. Hidan and kakazu at most low kage level. Gaara lost to deidara only because he focused mostly on protecting the village and not defeating him, and still lost to the very last play deidara could make. And he had no support from his brothers. Sasuke and his team fighting killer b are on a different league with deidara and sasory though it seems that you switched them. Then, A on himself is a high kage, so his team should be able to deal with one. Kisame and Itachi or team minato (yeah minato defeated a 14 yo obito, not really a demigod level opponent) at demigod level pure nonsense (sorry).
Did you see choji punch the gedo mazo lol. Him alone is low kage
I really dont understand this guys logic when ranking the team of 8 that was searcing for itachi and sasuke. Naruto was high kage level himself when he was a part of that squad. Not to mention kakashi was at least low kage level approaching kage level himself. That followed by a high jonin in yamato, and sakura with the rest of the team being jonin level with sensory abilities. I dont see how Kakuzu and Hidan could fair even slightly against that team. Naruto should be able to beat them by himself, but with help its a done deal. That team of 8 could argulably and most likely in my opinion defeat taka. However i agree with everything else on the list completely. This is the only thing I dont understand. Great job on the video.
naruto is low kage at that point,he only has a rasenshuriken that he can't even throw,and it's been shown that he uses it once,injures himself and exhausts and incapoacitates himself,naruto becomes like 1-2 tiers above high kage when he learns sage mode(straight from low kage) it's a huge boost.the rest of the team are not jonin level,hinata is not ,kiba is not,maybe shino is but just barely
@@xxxtimeghostxxx wait I thought this was after the pain arc?
My mistake idk why i thought this was after the pain arc. Still arguable they can beat kakuzu and Hidan though
oh yeah they are definetly beating those 2@@jlejle12
@ImagineBeingALeftist yeah I don't see how those could beat this team. I was getting that team of 8 mixed up with the squad during the 5 kage summit that was going with naruto to talk to the raikage.
How would Itachi and Nagato do against Madara from the 5kage fight,
2v1 they might have win conds
They lose unless Madara drops his guard for too long. But I think he would respect the mangekyou and rinnegan on sight.
@@New_Horizonswouldn't Nagato counter all Madara's jutsu just by absorbing it and possibly absorb Susanoo because its just chakra too.
Also Madara besides Human path absorbtion can't really seal them , Nagato can always counter that by Shinra tensei him away and Itachi just has to stay in his Susanoo with Yata mirror and Totsuka blade always ready to use.
Team hiruzen would’ve been NUTS
You really think sick Itachi and Kisame can beat the Five Kage? Or that Minato can beat them by himself?
I don't know bro....
alive itachi and kisame are high jonin or low demigod at most, they cannot beat bee and the raikage
17:38 gotta disagree because Chiyo is way stronger she's like high Sanin tbh
high sannin ? that means high kage buddy,are u smoking crack ?
Feel like asumas gotta be higher than reg Jonin lvl he was one of the gusrdians which goes to atleast top jonin no?
And also shikamaru was only able to take him down bc he learned the only way how to after asumas death
Minato KCM x Naruto KCM ?
25:04 he is Kakashi level tbh
There should have been a sannin tier
sannin is mid to high kage realistically
You think the 3rd raikage is below Rasa the 4th kazekage?
Hell no
When did I say that?
@@New_Horizons you were like saying rasa was mid kage, but raikage was just "kage" level, im assuming low kage, then kage then mid kage then high kage, so if rasa is mid kage, hes above 3rd ay then?
I was mixing up my words at that point. In the characters tier list I had Rasa one tier below him.
I'll subscribe for that Sasori take. He sucks
Team 10 war arc is easily mid tier kage possibly high tier
Chouji hold his own against gedo statue a literal mid kage or low kage summon
Shikamaru is easily high jonin at that point
Ino jonin to High jonin considering she hold her own with only taijutsu against asuma something that is not her specialty
Uchihas - they would be much weaker than senjus
Alliance - because of that senjus and uchihas would form an alliance
Peace - therw wouldnt be wars between countries
Tobirama - he would live much longer
Nagato - he would still have his parents, same for yahiko and konan
Legendary sannins - orochimaru tsunade and jiraiya would be known as legendary sannins
Tsunade - her boyfriend and brother would still be alive
Jiraiya - he wouldnt travel around the world
Obito - he would be alive since there would be no war
Kakashi - he wouldnt have sharingan
Rin - she would be alive and probably married with obito
Nine tails - there wouldnt be nine tails attack on konoha
Minato and kushina - they would be alive
Naruto - he would have happy childhood
Uchihas - uchiha clan wouldnt be destroyed
Sasuke - he wouldnt be that edgy
Itachis ms - he wouldnt awaken it since shisui is alive
Nagato - he wouldnt get rinnegan
Akatsuki - there wouldnt be akatsuki
Narusaku - naruto would prpbably marry sakura
No boruto - this is the best part
Choza faught pain,gedo statue what more u want
Shikaku sacrifice him an ino dad
u acting like choza 1v1ed pain and survived
Mei's jutsu is strong and versatile she's just too slow and physically not imposing enough
Anybody gonna tell him about Haku? She? Her? Uhm.
I understand your reason for Pain and Konan being lower than Itachi and Kisame. But I disagree, I think both are the same tier. I would put Itachi and Kisame down, cause I think Itachi's sickness is a big nerf and I don't think that Kisame is that much stronger than Konan. Both Low Demigod
I was ranking healthy Itachi. I should have mentioned that.
@@New_Horizons In this case it makes more sense. I thought you only considered him without the sickness in the edo form
there is no way that itachi and kisame can take out the favie kage
healthy itachi
You're understimating Itachi and Kisame but ok.
Haku is a boy homie.
1:13:35 bro switch BM Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi with Edo Nagato and Itachi. BM Naruto is more powerful than either Edo Nagato or Edo Itachi, that group whom fought tailed beasts + tobi with Rinnegan should be peak demigod
Haku is a dude
Sasuke saved Itachi as many times as Itachi saved him against Kabuto, and i'm generous because one time Sasuke wasn't even being targeted, Itachi simply miscalculated Kabuto's intentions and got himself impaled as a result.
I thought that was still itachi taking Advantage of being an edo, while saving sasuke by distracting kabuto
@@spit-fire No because Kabuto was about to rewrite the seal and make him his pawn again, Sasuke had to bail him out. Itachi himself apologizes to Sasuke for fucking up.
@@marko1263 oh I was think of a different exchange, you right
You said haki is a she😂
Haku* not haki😂
ik outside of the Power scaling community there's only trash talk for sasori but I still just don't buy all the hype he gets especially when I see people scaling him to WA garaa
What’s there to “buy” exactly? He’s just factually>the strongest Kazekage in history. His ONLY fight ever is against a) Chiyo, who has no anti feats and when she was younger fought prime Hanzo many times and had direct intel on many of his abilities b) A Sakura with a mental amp who was being controlled by Chiyo as a weapon for 99% of the fight AND had the skills to create the only antidote in the world to his poison.
The fight was so hilariously stacked against him and he STILL was gonna win, he just chose to die at the last second because Chiyo’s psyop worked on him. I’ve analyzed that entire fight MANY times so I can safely say that fandoms perception of it is almost entirely wrong and headcanon.
Well ppl scale him to the beginning of the WA before Gaara gets the gold dust. Sasori would scale closer to kage summit gaara.
The thing ppl don't talk about is that Sakura and choy had prep time that litterly helped them not get one shot by sasori's poison. Every time sasori hit them they would have died kinda like Danzo vs Sasuke. Sakura could not even see sasori attacking and she even said she would have died against his 1st puppet.
@@hobbyhorse5848 that last second and first interaction are the only times you can say he was “holding back” or running into his own death
but think about how dangerous magnetic sand is and the 100 puppet dance yet a few antidotes forgives him for only barley scratching them a couple times? no thats what i wont buy
and he’s talking to himself reaffirming that sakura isn’t a joke so theres no reason to say he continued not taking them seriously
and theres still moments in the fight that sakura isn’t being controlled and keeps up with sasori i highly recommend a review before scaling sasori
and yeah chiyo has impressive background fighting prime danzo but after some lapping around some sanin scaling later on it’s more than safe enough to say they got a whole lot stronger so they could each be scaled above chiyo, you have to assume chiyo got weaker bcz as it stands she gets ran over against the sanin
its also likely she was too mentally nerfed most of the fight and holding back from what her expression was after seeing sasori’s face and not using her best puppets off the bat
Also they are crazy to think he's above low kage level,they keep bringing back that thing that he killed the 3rd kazekage,even though he could've just poisoned him,killed him in his sleep or assasinated him,doesn't mean he was stronger to do that,they also do the same to tobirama,they keep saying he died to kinkaku and ginkaku even though these 2 had the help of presumably 20 other elite jounin and when they get reanimated they think tobirama bought them back,they literally don't even know that he died,he might have died from his wounds after killing those jouning and the 2 brothers(that also had kurama v2 modes) or maybe he died cause he ran out of chakra like kakashi did after fighting pain@@nwk1626 but use this to say tobirama is weak
minato's team should be in the high kage tier, also you missed the madara and obito duo
I did not include Madara and Obito because they are not even allies really. They'd be the only team on this list that legitimately hate and try to backstab each other. Also the ten tails was doing most of their work anyway.