GH6 for Photographers, the last of its breed - RED35 Review
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- The arrival of Lumix G9 Mark II signals the death of Panasonic's infamous DFD autofocus system and the future GH7 would most definitely be featuring hybrid PDAF. But as a photographer who don't need the fastest CAF to shoot, would GH6 makes a good case (and a good buy) in 2023? Especially for its current heavily discounted price tag. Here's my take after using it for three months of pro shoots and how it compares (briefly with my OM-1, don't worry, I will be doing more comparison in due course). #photography #microfourthirds #gh6
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** Contents of this video **
0:00 - Video Start
0:28 - Introduction
1:58 - Build & Design
6:04 - Image Quality
6:52 - Sample Images
9:40 - Auto Focus (DFD)
11:59 - Manual Focus (Assist)
14:06 - Buffer Size (Speed)
14:53 - IBIS & HHHR
15:45 - EVF & Screen
16:17 - Battery Life
17:28 - Video Features
18:28 - Conclusion
21:17 - Outtro
21:32 - Bonus Comments
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The GH6 is a great camera. It’s a big camera for stills, even compared to most full frame bodies. That size helps a ton for video with the boxier feel and fan which adds a lot of that size. Looking forward to your comparison with the G9 II and OM1! Thanks for your videos Jimmy, I’ve subscribed!
Gh6 pictures look great to me
Yes, something I said I love about the Lumix line is the magnification for manual focus is great. It would be great for my macro photography. I would have to know focus stacking/bracketing works perfectly on Lumix before I get the G9II. Look forward to your comparison.
great, thank you
very informative
Good video. Thanks. toronto canada.
I'm sticking with my G9 for now. WIthk works well for me.
Looking forward to your G9 MKII review. I've had the G9 for ages. It still works. It's not perfect, but you have to know how to use the tool that is in your hand. If it ever dies, the G9 MKII will be it's replacement.
Love the Bonus Comments at the end. Love your honest reporting!
Thanks mate. Yes I am curious and can't wait for the G9 II to arrive.
Cmon guys, em1x, gh5s and gh6 user here. The
Gh6 requires good glass ie. Nocticron or even the 75mm 1.8 Oly. Gh6 has internal raw. Prores 422 is simply awesome. It has Ibis as well with moderate autofocus. In comparison to the bmpcc 4k. This is a W camera. It has almost the same low light capablities as the gh5s but with DR mode on. Its beefy yes and it looks professional. Disregard the small sensor, the pixels look more detailed in comparison to full frame on social media. Open gate is awesome. Like I said this sensor needs top notch glass to get stellar results. Otherwise dont even bother. If you want things to look more cinematic get a cinema lens with good roll offs that dont look sharp. Speedbooster definitely helps. We cant be getting all techy here and forget what real filming and photography is like. You can get professional results and even better than full frame users if you know what youre doing
Well talking about glass, I think it applies to most cameras.
I use a GH4 and I was astounded by the quality of footage I could get from it when using better than average lenses.
I'm sure the quality would even have been better with premium lenses.
Some fabulous images Jimmy esp love the group wedding shots. Also surprised by how well the 12-40 holds up in real world use versus the primes - still in 2 minds whether to get a zoom (such as the 12-45 or 12-40 II) to supplement my primes and I'm more confused than ever now lol - great work
Insightful and valid comments from the perspective of someone who does really put these cameras through the stresses of professional work. However, I suspect that most people who have GH6 type of money to spend on a new M43 camera body will be looking at the G9ii, or the OM1.
Hi Jimmy,
Just checked the specs of both the S5II and G9II both still offer DFD in S-AF. Only difference is that C-AF uses phase-detect. S-AF will be at least as good as the previous generation.
The issue people have is the lower dynamic range in photos compared to previous cameras, and its not a small amount. For video the DR a better
Actually I didn't found it to be that way, I felt my GH6's DR is on par or even slightly better than my Sony ZVE1
@@waynecake5867 thats a low bar to compare it to
@@kudobeats Maybe, seems like the A7S3 sensor is actually pretty bad at DR despite the hype
@@waynecake5867 A7S III has much better DR than the GH6. Regardless, the issue is that the GH5/GH5 II have better DR for photos than the GH6, thats the issue for a lot of people. For video, if DR boost is off, its worse than the GH5/GH5II.
Hi Jimmy, I am fairly sure the O-M1 does not have a lowpass filter, as you mentioned in your bonus section. It probably has less moire because the resolution is slightly less than the GH6.
G9 II is really giving some hope for mft future.
I have a g9 and a gh6 and both are great at what they can do. I also have a nikon D700, D800, and got the new Z8.
Every camera has a place and what a great time for camera technology!
Which do you prefer for stills? The G9 or the GH6?
The G9 still has more options for taking photos but I like the images better on the GH6. The extra resolution is sharper.
I took a handheld night shot of the Saint Charles Bridge in Prague and it turned out wonderful. I ran it through Topaz AI cleaning up the noise and increased the resolution even more and it looks great. I would say that this new software is a game changer.
We are spoiled in this day and age of photography. It’s a wonderful time of technology.
@@edwardekman9832 That's interesting!
I'm torn between the G9 and the GH6.
I currently own a GH4.
I predominantly do video ads and cover weddings and run a CZcams channel on the side, but I have been having a lot more clients for photography and the GH4 doesn't just cut it very well for photography. I love that the GH4 can still shoot 4k ALL-I at 200mbps. I feel buying a GH6 might mean I'm going all in for video interests alone since I already have a GH4.
The specs of the GH6 are however very tempting, but the G9 is cheaper - and there lies the dilemma. Thought I could do some future proofing with the GH6, but the G9 still looks like it might still be well suited as a capable hybrid camera even in a few years to come.
The GH6 with their new 25Mpx with dual Gain took Panasonic to develop so that is the basic sensor for the next 5 years in the Pana m43. I was very curious how Panasonic will introduce a new photo centric m43 using this same sensor, as many users noticed worse dynamic range and iso invariance under IS0 800 then previous camera. I was sure that the new G9II will get this improved 25Mpx with PDAF. With the new G9 they enhanced the dual gain fixing the streaking issu, better iso invariance and dynamic range. Richard Wong showed that that the G9II sensor is equivalent the APS-C sensor from Fuji, Canon and Sony. So it seems Panasonic rushed the GH6 to the market after being 5 years still in the m43 marketdue to their focus on the L Mount.
The G9ii appears to have CDAF, DFD , and PDAF hybrid AF system, all three.
I like my GH6 to make photos. I have made some great portre shots under the waterfall. It is a bit annoying to switch between video and foto mode because I have to take off and on the nd filter.
Totally agree! Though, I use a magnetic system that I can just take the filter off quite quickly.
Why do you have to remove the ND filter for video? I use mine all the time for both photos and video
@@intellatek I use ND for video and remove for photo
I have also pre-ordered a G9ii. And once I get my new toy, then I'm selling my GH6.
Basically the G9ii surpasses the GH6 and now made it redundant. I'm mostly a videographer and loved my GH6 but the biggest mistake Panasonic made was not including Phased Detection.
The GH7 is just around the corner.
Friend, please conduct an honest stabilization test on the Panasonic G9ii vs OM-1, could you film a person walking at a calm pace along the street, while you yourself would not walk at a goose pace, but at a regular pace, I wonder who will be better? at focal length 12mm 35mm! I'm tired of looking for fair comparisons!
This is in regards to Wildlife and buffering. One thing that baffles me about OM-SYSTEMS is the buffer size. The E-M1 II, III, E-M5 III and OM-5 has a 149 frame buffer. Did they not double check specs before building the OM-1? I usually only at max shoot about 20fps with those cameras and maybe a two second burst but never have a slow down of waiting for it to clear the buffer between bursts. I would probably just shoot at 25fps on the OM-1 but I'm at a higher chance of the camera filling the buffer and slowing me down with the decreased size of buffer. If they would have just matched the 149 frame buffer, I still would not notice an issue.
It is a curious feature for sure. I guess 90 photos in 1.5 sec was all they thought anyone would need? 25fps would be 3 sec. Maybe flash was expensive at that moment, as happened sometimes back during the time period when the OM-1 came out. Supply chain issues really impacted the tech market. Still, for a $2,200 USD (at launch) camera, you'd think they could've given it a 180 photo buffer.
I Use Gh6 for video and Om-1 for stills. Yesterday I was using both with Om 150-400mm and often the 2x tele in poor light for bird photography in the early morning on a bean bag so minimal camera shake, but still some. The OM-1 won for stills with IS and AF working better (But bird AI failed in low light with 2x tele making it f11 aperture) with sharp shots down to 60th second wat 200mm equivalent, but GH^ just blows it away for video, even at just simple implementation level (cant even set video as a custom mode on OM1!) level and quality was amazing even in poor light and higher ISO.
G9 mkii looks like OM-1 may be in threatened for its is best for photo title though, except IS will work better with OM/Oly lenses still I suspect
What yellow glasses you wear in this video?
Markus from Germany. I love them, just got a new pair.
More GH6 videos please
Alright dude I just bought it because of this video. I hope I made the right choice i got mine for 1000 out the door, I sure hope the streaking is a myth.
I bought the GH6 1 year ago and used it for video. Despite the advances compared to the GH5, the GH5 and even the GH4 were, in their time, much more remarkable cameras. I consider the GH6 a very bad camera for photography, especially compared to the OM-1. I will sell my GH6 as soon as possible and consider it a mistake purchase! I believe the G9ii is the best choice.
The GH7 is just around the corner.
Interesting.
If you were to choose between the G9 and the GH6, which would it be?
G9
Well, I agree its a good camera. And a flagship for video.
But! I want OM SYSTEM to evolve and make a 25 mp videocentric camera in pro level, and I want it to be called OM-2.
Why, because I want OM SYSTEM to survive as a brand. I do so far use my OM-1 and also the Sony 7R3 at work for video, and I don't need better. I do most photo.
What I really lack though, is a digitalizing mode to digitalize all hundreds of thousands negatives and paper photos I have at my museum. I want a camera with 1. negative to positive raw edit in camera. 2. Focus measuring to check if camera is in perfect line with the distance to all four corners. 3. Focus stacking raw with 4 photos in very close stacking for bent negatives and photos 4. High res raw combined with the fucus stacking raw.
That could all be a firmware update to one of my OM-1, OM-5, EM-1iii.
The 4/3 sensor size is perfect for digitalizing photos. What is bad is I lack negative to raw and difficulty to get the focus perfect in all corners at small negatives.
Please talk to OM SYSTEM about implementing that function. Museums around the world are starting digitalizing old negatives now.
Thanks, Jimmy. Great video. Not really looking at getting a GH6, but just wanted to know if all the functions and features of your OM f1.2 lenses can be accessed on the GH6? Thanks, Peter.
Long time MFT user here. The saddest part about GH6 is that Panasonic betrayed everyone who bought it on release by swearing that they won't implement PDAF in future camera models "to protect image quality". Imagine the surprise when s5 ii with PDAF came out. I still feel bitter about it.
Nevertheless, GH6 is great, g9 ii is obviously better. Also, GH6 streaking issue is still not fixed. Just try the bracketing mode and shoot the moon after blue hour has passed, happens everytime.
I am waiting the DPreview to compare DR isos and the quality because these new sensors of Lumix for stills are bad at low iso and years waiting for that shit is really bad for the customers. I changed Canon Reflex to micro 4/3 and i really want to buy a better camera than a Lumix G90 but with these sensors i think is a wrong idea. Maybe a G9 I or GH5II...
The shadow noise of the GH6 really kills me. I took a picture of light going through a bridge, and the shadows were horrendously bad. I could not recommend GH6 to someone wanting photography. I like the camera -- for video.
What lens? My camera shoots beautifully with alternate lighting.
It has shadow depth and detail never over sharpened. Using 25mm and 15mm Panasonic Leica DG Summilux f/1.4.
Buying GH6 today is not really recommended. It is a capable camera for manual focusers but anyone looking for a truly versatile, portable gear will be disappointed.
On the other hand, congrats for good colours in your in-house shots. Cheers!
I found the GH6 to be perfectly fine for my portrait works as I don't need fast bursts or CAF, though it sometimes help. DFD performs well in most of portrait works and there are times I found when I needed CAF and that's when GH6 fails to keep up. Also, I hate the fact that it's quite a bit bigger and heavier than my OM-1. I will have to see how the G9 II feels when it arrives.
I have a GH6 and an E-M1 ii. The GH6 is impressive for photos and video, but honestly so is the E-M1ii. It's the slow motion and tilty screen that does it for me. The E-M1ii is more confident for video continuous AF.
The GH6 produces very good photos with very nice colors. But I don't like it for video. The 4K is not as detailed as on the previous cameras. The 5,7K is much better but the IBIS is worse with this mode, even more on Open Gate 5,8K. What is really great on the GH6 are the colors.
go get your eyes tested dude
Clearly NOT the last of it's breed as tomorrow GH7 is coming :)
I like your approach and expertise Jimmy but think in this case, just like in the upcoming G9 II, James Popsys has already got the point. The MFT flagship camera's have become too big and heavy. The G9 II now has the same enclosure of the S5/II/IIx with the ff sensor. It defeats the purpose. You would think that the makers would go on producing the parallel, smaller MFT models, but no. Back in the times of GH2-4 and G7/G85 it was different, but starting with GH5 all is chunky and heavy. Sony knew what it was doing both with its APSC and the FF line-up.
Too big? I am a long time gh5 user and i orderd the new g9. I dont care about small cameras! I bought my gh5 because it is GOOD not because it is small. I hate small cameras
@@castielvargastv7931 yes, too big. Most top mirrorless FF camera's are now the same size or smaller than the GH5 or G9 II, not to mention the APSC. If you love bigger camera's, there you have it. There is medium format too. But the hate is a bad adviser anyways...
@@Emerald_City_ why do you think a mft cam has to be smaller? A camera has to fit my hands. A small camera does not. I would never buy a camera that does not fit all my fingers. I use a battery grip to make my cameras wven bigger and better to hold. I want a tool not a toy. G9 / s5 size is about perfect to me and with the grip it is a dream
@@castielvargastv7931 if you are satisfied, fine! Can't wait to try it. But I do like smaller bodies. -You could reverse the argument. Why does the body that fits your hands need to have such a small sensor, with all the (mostly negative) consequences? S5 is an honest deal. But why would you now fit 4 times smaller sensor into the same body?
@@castielvargastv7931I got your point. But also if you have a tool it might be nice to have a small camera with compatible lenses for travel or even as an everyday carry item with some pancake lens. But when I upgraded the G5 to the G80 which is somewhat bigger and heavier, I never looked back, viewfinder, IBIS are better, tripod plate doesn't collide with the battery or SD card door. However I still liked GF1 for portability the most and bought Fuji X100. G80 is just a tool. But I don't like taking it to bike, I need like five liters bigger backpack, I can't place it into a pouch and attach it to the belt or handlebars
I have two GH5s, one GH5 ii and I just ordered the GH6. It was heavily marked down. I shoot video for live theatre, concerts, and dance shows.