Why Bethesda Was Never That Great
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2019
- A look back on Bethesda's long history of troubles.
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Everyone has been tearing into bethesda and fallout 76 for a year now. I want to say that people are beating a dead horse, but the horse just keeps getting back up and kicking little girls in the teeth.
Lol
The thing that everyone is missing though is that the game is apparently popular. If it wasn't people wouldn't complain and the $100 subscription wouldn't work like it is. People can bitch all they want but as long as dummies keep playing the game Bethesda has the last laugh
There is a simple solutions to that. Bethesda fans need to stick to their guns and not buy Bethesda games. If you give them money, that dead horse will keep coming back to life. Also giving them money means it's okay for them to be this way and burn any good-will they had.
Only because the horse is equipped with the Add-on horse armor for a mere $5
The horse is Unconcious!
Obsidian being denied royalty payment over 1% of a metacritic score is crushing
Bethesda: Here guys take the royalties we owe from a decade ago please help us make sure Starfield doesn't flop
Obsidian: Fuck you lol
@@macaryl95 I think Obsidian made the Outer Worlds just to destroy Starfield.
@@Kos4Evr what is starfield?
@@jacksonmiller7232 vaporware
@@jacksonmiller7232 Exactly my good man
"Doesn't matter if the game is shit , the mods will fix it".
-Average Bethesda fanboy.
I mean it is true. Bethesda never been a great game company but they do have nice writters for the lore they put in their games. Modders do their job as bethesda got lazy after morrowind.
Bet you still play their games tho ........smh
@@danvez5656Oh look heres one.
@@ANTH0NY0076And another
kinda crazy how much leniency bethesda lol
Spoiler alert. Starfield was just another big fat lie.
@@skendae9152 lol this game is a mess. screw all these paid reviews. i bet players will give it 6/10 max.
@@skendae9152 32 hours in and it is complete shit. I cannot figure understand how they have made such massive backwards progress since skyrim. All my hope for es6 is crushed.
I'll probably buy its Deluxe edition in like 8 years when it's 85% off Steam.
@@skendae9152You dork! Go back to the chess club!
@@eldendong4956"paid reviews" I bet your favorite game is god of war
Todd Howard is an unscripted NPC gone wild
Time to mod the Todd
Agent Howard gone rogue
lmao
I now see Bethesda as BethEsdA
he was part of Bethesda's radiant AI project all along
People tend to forget that the modding community is actually the reason Bethesda was ever popular.
and now Bethesda is punishing them for it
I agree with this. Recently bought Skyrim for PC and installed various mods and it was a completely new / better game than vanilla Skyrim.
@👁 don't even bother arguing reasonably with those manbabies. simple minded people always enjoy a hatewagon to ride on, and it just so happens to be bethesda atm.
@👁 Right now, sure. Comments like the one you replied to or even the video itself imply they always did though.
n333k333
He’s a troll.
If he plays it on pc, he’ll love it.
Heck, I’m not good at pc but you CAN plug your console controller to your pc so that you can play a PC game with a controller.
A pc monitor for good visuals and I have a controller to play without worrying how to be decent at a keyboard and what buttons to push.
I’m STILL playing fallout 4 every Saturday for 6hrs tinkering with weapons customization for at least 3 years now so that’s how investing I am to this game REGARDLESS what this video or anyone says. No one can’t change my mind and I’m still playing. Deal with it hypocrites. It is your opinion as it is MINES so respect mines and agree to disagree and end this argument. Let us do our thing and not complain comprende whiney haters?
Todd is actually genius, releasing Fallout76 and Starfield so people can say "You know what, actually Fallout 4 wasn't that bad, i may buy one copy"
Please stop following my life, because that's exactly what I've done lol
Like Fallout 3, Fallout 4 was very good. AFTER a metric cr#pton of mods were added.
@@7thsealord888the games aren't as good as NV even with the mods which says everything
@@Jiub_SN Sadly never had the oppurtunity to play NV (NOT a Bethesda game technically). From all I have heard about it, I am not arguing on that score.
@@7thsealord888 It makes Bethesda not even look like RPG's, ESPECIALLY the new ones.. great game.
I think the biggest weakness of Bethesda is the writing. The team who write the dialogue, quests etc have clearly never read a book. Fallout 3 has such bad writing it’s actually incredible
New Vegas was referencing Hegel and made the player contemplate complex political questions. It makes the Bethesda games look like child’s play
You can thank Emil for that. His motto is "KISS" which means keep it simple stupid
Agreed, Fallout 3 doesn't make any sense
Fallout New Vegas was actually developed by Obsidian, that's why the writing was so much better, complex, and more dynamic in terms of player choice and dialogue consequences.
I could never play FNV for more than 15 minutes 'cause it felt like Oblivion with firearms. I played FO4 first and it was a nice experience, I wanted more. So I downloaded New Vegas again with textures and an ENB and finally got into it. After New Vegas I just can't enjoy FO4 story anymore because it feels so average and on rails. I tried FO3 as well and after spending a couple of hours modding it, I just stopped playing after like 2 hours because I was bored and I don't even know why.
"The last few years have not been kind to Bethesda"
No
Bethesda has not been kind to the last few years
CritCrab ey, the dnd crab
What
Oh hi Crit Crab! Fancy seeing you here
Are we going to start getting MMORPG horror stories??
Damn I never thought I would see you here
Bethesda does not make games. They just make canvases for aspiring modders.
I agree. Modders are still making money off these big titties waifu mods for Skyrim
This is exactly what bugthesda is doing since Oblivion. They can only make one type of game, "Postman simulator" without modders.
@@viatomic afaik mods are free, so not sure how are they raking in that cash.
This applies to everything after Skyrim.
@@auriaska99 some modders (mostly asian) paywall their mods behind patreons, the craziest one I saw is $400 for bunch of cosmetic stuff. Look it up.
Who's here after Starfeild launched realizing this MFer was spot on.
And here we are 3 years later and Starfield is a giant disappointment.
How? Only thing I see people complaining about is the amount of loading screens. Everything else is amazing about the game.
The loading screens are just the tip of that mountain, though that is a huge problem.
Performance, crashing, ship builder is half baked, missing loads of QOL features, starmap is also underbaked and missing key features like a lookup or save favorites for places. 3/5 factions are short and relatively uninteresting (for me). Ai is buggy, looks awful, talk over each other constantly and just irritating to be around. Graphics are years out of date. Digipicking was interesting for the first few hours then becomes a slog because its overtuned and takes too long + everything is locked. Way too many skills to put points into. Ship combat is the barest of bones it could possibly be. Guns are uninspired and just dice roll stats, even special ones, overall weapon variety is just poor outside of ballistic weapons. Money is basically useless outside of ship upgrades. Way too many ammo types. Shop keepers don't have enough money. Resource gathering is pointless when I can buy everything from vendors at extremely cheap prices. The main story is cliche and done many times before. It's missing features that games with studios of under 20 people pulled off years ago. The economy is complete garbage, how is a ship only selling for around 10% of what it's worth? Less than that if you found/stole one because you have to pay way too much to register it to sell it.
There are so many reasons this game falls flat on it's face. I put in 85hrs into it, beat all factions and main story and it was just awful. I was so hyped for this game but it was a huge let down to me. @@ghost25killer
Nobody puts in 85 hours into a game and says its sh*t, you need some mental help if you dragged yourself for 85 hours into the game and didnt enjoy it at all. I put in like 50 hours and NG+ and love the crap outta it and my only gripe is the amount of loading screens for a "next gen game" is ridiculous especially after I just finished Spiderman 2 which literally has no loading times except the main menu. Starfield was a good game but you expected Starcitizen features out of a Bethesda game and that seems to be your problem lol@@GhostOokami
I paid for the whole game, I was gonna play the whole game lol. I didn't immediately hate it, it was an over time dissatisfaction. I did enjoy a few aspects of the game, specifically the Ryujin and Crimson Fleet, I loved those. The game itself is just a 4/10 game, 5/10 if they fix performance, which I doubt they will, it is Bethesda after all. If they got rid of 80% of the loading screens that would improve the game a ton, theres zero reason I need to load a 10x10ft room in new atlantis as a separate place. Maybe mods will breathe some life into and I'll go back but its gonna take some time. @@ghost25killer
@@ghost25killerit’s utterly basic as fuck. They don’t really innovate anything just copy past shit with a new paint job so yea, nothing special
The most common bug is Todd Howard himself.
Adam Roush he’s basically an anomaly lol
@@rongusta11 Like a vortex, but instead of killing you it rips out the money from your wallet
@Anty Googl If people can grow smart enough to realize Bethesda is screwing them, and retain their consistency... Then all the more raving for them. I do agree that the upset people that STILL buy Bethesda after knowingly getting screwed over are massive hypocrites. Hypocrisy is one of the biggest forms of weakness, because it makes you exploitable. It makes you weak. It proves you can't think with the ever-dying uncommon sense that we're left with these days. Same goes for the people still going to watch the latest Star Wars films. What makes anyone think that they're going to make ANYTHING better for the next film? They've bastardized and ruined any direct canon left, and they just want them to continue? Eesh. This is why we're in the state we're in. Losers and children with their moms' credit cards and wealthy dunderbrains throwing cash at lackluster franchises because they love them.
Nothing wrong with being a fanboy, but you gotta understand when your franchise needs your help.
And the best way to help a franchise is to NOT support their projects when they are deliberately volatile. If they are truthful and provide well, then they're worth the money. Better to not waste the money when a company like Bethesda is willing to dox and harass their playerbase.
@@MorfsPrower U are my spiritual leader
@@MorfsPrower this comment is why ill pirate everything bethesda makes from here on out.
Thanks my man.
He’s probably lied so much he thinks he’s telling the truth now lmao
He could be president XD
"Make the lie big, make it radical, and if you tell it enough, they will believe it"
-Adolph Hitler
@@jasonc584 dam
Big boss or Bethesda?
"Cheating on the exam is like lying to yourself" Teachers, 2020
This aged well
Wym
@@darklord3662 Starfield is a turd.
It aged like the finest gouda cheese.
This video was ahead of its time
this is even more paramount with starfield. the game comes out and its a total 6/10. when they said most ambitious game i was expecting some new tech like rockstars facial recognition. not just fallout 4 in space
starfield is on par with outer worlds. not good
@@TheCoolCucumber
Fallout 4 is a disservice to Fallout
6/10??? It's a 3/10 AT MOST.
@@TheFirstCurse1 3/10 is being very generous here
Fun piece of trivia. The bug where giants in skyrim project characters to the strathosphere was fixed by bethesda but the community asked them to put it back in and they complied.
that was a really nice bug
In this case it truly wasn't a bug but a nice feature.
@@gyrozeppeli00 are you implying that BETHESDA HAS BUGS?
I literally thought that was the intended feauture as a kid. This is literally the first time ive ever even heard it was a bug lol
It was a fucking hilarious one
This is why you don't skip 71 games in the series.
Stolen comment, you bitch.
@@I_Cunt_Spell i'm sorry i'm not as funny as the semi-famous youtuber soundsmithtf2 which produces gameplay for various games but mainly for the videogame known as Team Fortress 2, published by Valve in October 2007.
@@CalmMagma
You're still a dirty thief.
@@I_Cunt_Spell "dirty thief" it's a youtube comment and you're acting like i comitted a felony. anyone could use that joke, i felt it was appropriate for this video.
@Ka7Aholic -
Not as pathetic as someone who steals other people's comments hogging for likes, bitch.
Bethesda has a much bigger problem post-Starfield. Starfield was not as buggy or broken as Fallout 76, even though it was still buggy. But it didn't really get any backlash for it. In fact, Starfield came and went. So much so that you could've missed its launch entirely. No one really cared at all. It wasn't like Skyrim or Fallout 3 or 4 where people called in sick for work, or skipped school to stay home and play it for hours on end.
We've gotten to the point where no one cares about Bethesda's games anymore. They don't garner hype because people have been burned too many times. At least with 76 people still wanted it to be good, people still cared. Fallout, even at its worst, was still a unique world that engrossed millions of fans. Starfield was as generic as it could be. Devoid of any character, immersion, role playing, anything. It was painfully bland, in addition to being buggy and glitchy af.
I have 0 hope for TES 6. When it finally comes out (likely not even this gen) I'm sure it will be even more stripped down with even fewer classes. Hell they'll probably remove dialogue options too. And somehow it'll still be glitchy as shit. But no one will be upset because no one was excited for it to begin with.
And everyone will ignore elder scrolls six and go play baldurs gate 4. Bethesda is trash.
They should fire Todd Howard and hire former obsidian people
Bethesda isn’t trash, if you have games like morrowind oblivion and skyrim under your belt. Instead of being so negative why not be positive for a change. Maybe TES 6 will hopefully be great!
@@anthonyluna91 TES6 is done by the same people and it uses the same engine. There's no reason to expect any major changes on their part, they'll just ride the TES-name.
@@anthonyluna91those games are over a decade old. They havent made a good game in ages.
Spoiler alert, starfield was indeed another big fat lie
It’s absolutely shocking that the developers of New Vegas don’t get any royalties for that game. It’s a masterpiece and they deserve it for all the effort they put on in such a short time.
it's becos they made the game so much better than fallout 3, 76 and fallout 4 that they made bethesda look bad
@Pup Pyz true
Way to buggy on release to be considered a masterpiece
The game was buggy and the shooting was awful. It was a good game but far away from a masterpiece.
Listening to the developers from Obsidian about their experience working on NV, it's more or less their fault. Bethesda was upfront to them about the dev time, and the Metacritic bonus was optional, but they tried anyway. They were just too cocky that they could get it running in time. They still made a better game than FO3 imo, but putting all the blame for "what could've been" on Bethesda isn't right in this case.
He sounds exactly like a salesman rather than a genuine visionary.
Yup that's exactly what he is. And all the IT gurus and visionaries are just plain salesmen. Having you think they are is their marketing strategy to sell you a new smartphone that you don't need. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates never invented anything.
That’s what he is you idiot
That's why they had him play the salesman in Fallout 4.
We're all salesmen. The question is whether we're ethical or not.
Just like Steve Jobs xD
Came back after Starfield... this videos is 100 % on point.
Tripping. Starfield is amazing for a $10 gamepass game. More polished, less bugs and mod support already
It's great if you like load screens and teleporting.
@@damandhaliwal11 It's bad. No "exploration", awful quest design, awful writing, new game+ makes all the core gameplay loops pointless. Fallout 4 if you could only fast travel between the cities and some points of interest.
Same. I was also going to make more or less the same comment I did last time. I've been saying this since Oblivion. Bethesda games are garbage.
@@damandhaliwal11 shiteaters defending their shit are like war - they never change .
I like how this pops up in my feed after I refund Starfield for the constant stutters and low FPS on my 2080Ti.
I truly do not understand how Bethesda constantly gets a pass for things like this
Cause their fanbase is just as dumb as the game design in their games are 🤣🤣🤣
nostalgic fanboys who only ever played a bethesda rpg
And the most amazing part is this game doesnt look good, even ugly at times. I was amazed to get 45 fps while staring at a wall of my ship
A legion of drones that ravenously gobble up any slop they spill on their heads from their mansions up in the cloud district, and violently defend anything and everything they do. Sunken cost fallacy in action, a textbook one-sided manipulative abusive relationship
@@yaqubebased1961 Well said
Todd is a D&D Character who spent most skill points on Bluff.
Level 20 bard with 21 charisma and proffiency in deception
Todd is a master in liar's dice.
Todd is Peter Molyneux with better PR.
Do not forget about the Lucky feat
🤣🤣🤣🤣
this video was reccomended after microsoft bought bethesda
Lmao same
How ironic
Ironic
76 likes nice.
Microsoft was real shook after seeing Sony announce Bugsnax PlayStation exclusive
It upsets me how often people forget what Bethesda did to Prey 2. That was an extremely hostile corporate takeover.
Prey 2017 is an amazing im-sim game, it's the fault of Bethesda forcing Prey IP name onto that game, to try to sell more copies
This is also why that game had awful, confusing marketing and sold worse than it should
Cancelled Prey2 due to quality concern but somehow released Fallout76 which was a buggy mess for a couple of years
Sucks.. cause its actually a great game. It's just not what the bait title suggested. Neuroschock would have saved it and possibly gave us another..
I must know about this prey game
Lol, that's how they got the Fallout IP. Bethesda have always been vultures.
I will never get over how Bethesda denied Obsidian their royalties over a single digit percent score. 1 fucking digit. And it was really because New Vegas made FO3 look like the joke it always was.
@@kozodoevbots
Good old Fallout 3, half of the map was empty, there is an invisible line Oasis-Arefu-Lamplight, after you cross the line there is nothing to do, no real quests or important npcs as I remind.
The only reason why people still play fallout 3 and like it is because it is part of TTW, and it make the game a little bit better.
What's REALLY insulting..
I hear Bethesda was responsible for the Q+A checks..
AND WE ALL KNOW they had 18 months... Bethesda wouldn't have done ANYWHERE NEAR that quality game with twice the time, still haven't
Starfield had 8 years, and just makes me want to go back and play NV.
@@kozodoev He's right, appeal to authority is a bad way to think, these scores are from HAND PICKED Bethesda fanboys at best, paid for manipulated scores at worst, suppose you think Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of truth?
that google doesn't prioritize or hide data?
Or the Mainstream media gives you "NEWS" ???
Hopefully one day you will learn to see through the BS and know how the world works, otherwise the system will use you as a pawn.
@@kozodoev No, he's saying the scores were fucking rigged. Are you dense?
''Their engine can legally drink'' LMAO
And it does
Trash the game engine all you want but the amazing thing is that Skyrim in its vanilla Xbox 360 state was still a decent looking game by todays standards even. Pretty much only matched by GTA V graphically for open world games in that generation. Then you have the Skyrim Remastered version with mods on PC. That game with mods is literally only matched by moded GTA V and by the vanilla PC Witcher 3.
It's actually kind of terrible that the Witcher 3 (2015), Skyrim (2011), and GTA V (2013) are still the best looking games in 2020. It's kind of terrible when you start playing a game and look around only to have your first thought being "Well this game might be ok, but the graphics are so dated stock Skyrim looks better".
@@brandontrost8888 lmfaooooo your eyes are broken
@@Obi-WanKannabis So what open world games are graphically better than Skyrim from the Ps3/Xbox 360 era?
What games are better than modded Skyrim today?
@@brandontrost8888 OMEGALUL name one other open world engine that freezes the game when saving
Getting hit by a giant in Skyrim and flying into the air is not a bug. Its a feature. A fun one at that
From what I know it started out as a bug with the physics engine calculating overkill values. Normally, the amount of knockback / force in a hit makes the target get pushed backward more depending on how big the overkill value was, that's just how the Havoc engine works.
With giants their super high damage meant that it had huge amounts of overkill damage, hence sending units into the stratosphere. The devs thought it was bloody fuckin hilarious so they intentionally didn't tweak their damage to remove it.
@@CrashB111 I heard they did remove it, but put it back in after backlash
To give Bethesda credit, they did originally patch it out, but they ended putting it back in because the players wanted it back.
@@flying-magpie It would be boring dancing on the ground rather then being a bird anyway
To be fair that's true of most of Skyrim's bugs. The thing neither Bethesda nor decent chunks of the games press never really understood about Skyrim's success. It was never because it was a good game. The characters are bland, the quests are the definition of a mixed bag, the story is underwhelming at best, the world building is mediocre, and the combat is... a bethesda game...
The thing is, because it was such a perfect balance of buggy insanity and a playable experience,it came across as this chaotic world where anything can happen. And that's both fun and exciting... The bugginess quite literally became a feature of the game, and the best one too! It isn't a good game but it is a fun one to play.
It's also why when they followed the game design cues from Skyrim with Fallout 4 people were a lot less pleased. Cuz that game whilst yes still buggy, is less consistantly so, and it clashes a lot more with the post apocalyptic tone.
aaaaaaaaaaand everyone fell for it again with Starfield
3 years after yesterday was the release of Starfield and it was another BIG FAT LIE
I can't get mad at him. He has maxxed out his charisma.
He'd be the silver-tongued merchant that can get you to buy anything from him.
plus he's a snacc
Todd: “I’m going to sell them a broken game”
DM: “Roll for persuasion”
Todd: “Nat 20”
Just wait he has to roll a 1 eventually
@@Yannis1a "It just works"
“You’ll Never See A Server”
Damn straight. I’ll never see ShitStorm 76 boot up either.
let it rot.
Glad I didn’t get it
To be fair, you never see a "select a server" screen.
He didn't lie about that though😂
4 years later has anything changed?
Bethesda is great at wasting potential. Even more than I am and that's hard to do.
I think that Bethesda wasn’t kind to the last few years, not the oposite.
I will not like this comment for an obviously great reason
I cried of laughter at how trrue that comment was
Bethesda wasn't kind to the last few people who still buy their games
_"One of the things we learned pretty early on is: don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet. Because they will catch you. They will deconstruct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity."_ -- Lord Gaben
Wait lord gaben really said that?
@@jakpote88 yup
_"One of the things we learned pretty early on is: Lie, lie much as you can, because fans are stupid and deserve no respect. Why would you respect someone, who's stupid enough to buy all your lies. Besides it just works"_ - Todd Hovard
I mean Todd the Frog sorry for misspelling his name
Also Valve: A horrible enviroment where the senior and select few members have all the power, there are a fair few articles about how shit they are to those in the bottom and more then a fair few skeletons in da closet.
this aged well
3 years later and Todd lied again with Starflop. I hate this man so much.
He has the best licences to work with and he do shit with it...
I wonder what CD Projekt would do with the Fallout IP.
@@concept5631 A open world without screen loading, with a good writing like New Vegas for sure
That voice error at 6:40 honestly left me speechless, never seen anything like that in a game with this much money put into it
To be fair, oblivion was extremely rushed. And there's only a few moments like this in the game.
@@thomasbrennan607 many things were cutted, it could be one of the best games, if they don't rushed and launched it for console (yes, the cutted content was because of the lack of space in the DVD) it is a nice game, but could have been better... waaay better...
@@Sheovion its still a pretty legendary game for its ambition. also the flaws lead to probably the most funny game of all time.
@@DuGongggg it's good, i love it, but it could have been way better
@@Sheovion i honestly love it more for the culture it spawned around it more than the game itself
The best Fallouts were not even the Bethesda ones
Hell, none of the Bethesda Fallouts are even good (3 is just bad NV, 4 is bad 3 and 76 is 76)
@Danzard 2 and NV are my all time favorites. NV especially
@Tattle Boad Nah, they always did crap, the difference was they used to do ambitious crap like daggerfall and terminator skynet and future shock, now they do skyrim and fallout 4 which is just crap.For god sake, when todd talked about fallout 4 the thing he mentioned first was we need to make a first person shooter first then an rpg ... They cut down on the rpg elements with each game, there fallout looks like a parody of fallout 1 and 2, especially with the marketing of vault boy.
Tattle Boad I agree with you as well but I guess we’ll be on the stake together. NV shorter development time really shows. Smaller hubs, bland environment design, less locations. For that amount of time however, the main plot really showed Bethesda how the old boys roll. Fallout 3 is more fun to play, but less fun to play through.
@Tattle Boad Fallout 3 overdid the 50s theme. The 50s theme was one of the many themes, the original Fallouts dwelled upon. Fallout 3 was a good game, but a bad fallout game.
This video aged as a good wine.
Just played starfield
Uninstalled two days later
The lie that got me was when they said the nukes in Fallout 76 would “completely change the landscape”. All they did was cast a red hue over the area. Damn that pissed me off
The guy is a pathological liar just as Peter Mulenaux (sic)
The one that pissed me off was when they said you could talk to giants in Skyrim. I was so excited on 11/11/11 when i saw my first giant but he promptly sent me in to the stratosphere
Well, these people are ready to promise u everything to make u to a buy a game. Just look at Cyberpunk developers for example. Howmuch they promised how much they gave
Technically it changed the landscape pall 🤓
@@tatianaes3354I wouldn't say as bad as Molyneux, but he's certainly displayed Molyneux vibes.
The way they treated Obsidian is the most damning in my opinion. Disgusting
It's a business calm down
gotta say, though, Obsidian have kind of been the heroes of the cRPG industry that never get the credit. They're always there to show Triple A's how their IP's should be done, they employ the guys who made the classics that the Triple A's took from them, Obsidian has never gotten the credit of Bethesda or Bioware but they've one-upped them almost every time.
@@d.h.k.c8113 idk about other titles from obsidian, but what I do know is that pillars of eternity puts most modern RPGs to shame
@@StrawHatTony420 kotor 2
@@StrawHatTony420 One of the most diverse catalogues of any dev imo from Outer Worlds and South Park: Stick of Truth to Star Wars KOTOR 2
"Bethesda doesn't make games, it produces kits that other people make games out of."
Heard that somewhere. As someone who thought FO 3 & 4 were awesome AFTER being modded to the gills, I know this to be true.
7:30 THANK YOU. I can't tell you how annoying it is to hear people talk about "engine bad." Half Life Alyx is run off a heavily modified Quake engine, Destiny 2 is run off a heavily modified RTS engine, and same with Overwatch--all of which are decades old. It doesn't matter what the "core" of your engine is, it's only ever as good as the engineers that maintain it.
Bathesda to sum up:
Their early bugs were cute
now they are just lazy af
They were lazy while developing Oblivion and Skyrim.
They are purely lazy. I can’t believe management played fallout 76 and decided yep it’s in a playable state, sell it.
everything was goofier at the time. Kinda fitted the theme
Thats what happens when you overlook mediocrity for too long. Undeserved 9.5s for years.
No, they weren't really lazy historically. They kept adding more stuff and weren't keeping up with the increased workloads being created for everything to work properly, but the level of detail to the new things they added has been pretty insane for the most part. It's just at the expense of polish, and losing a bunch of features you shouldn't have had to. I know some people who actually think some of the earlier RPGs were too complicated in terms of stats and stuff to keep track of, and I think they're wrong and you don't have to pay attention to that stuff to play their games, but it's a legitimate thing people thought, so the idea no one wanted streamlining is probably wrong, and they had to do work to redesign systems in that way as well (even if I don't agree with the ways in which they did this for the most part, even if I were to agree to them doing it).
Also, the first Elder Scrolls game, Arena, is ridiculously buggy, and that was before Todd or Gamebryo, and Battlespire is probably still their least functional title. They actually showed improvement after those in basically every way. Bethesda has always had most of the issues associated with it now (I'd attribute the development of microtransactions more to Nexon, publisher of shitty Korean MMOs that are much more popular than you might expect than Bethesda however, and I'd also credit Valve, who I think was influenced into this practice by Nexon, but that's another topic), but the problems are worse than when they weren't as relevant of a company.
fallout 4: some red flags but nothing to worrying
Skyrim special edition: some more slightly more serious red flags
release of the creators club: sme serious red flags
fallout 76: straight-up abusive relationship
Skyrim: some red flags, but you weren't aware they were red flags at the time
Red flags mean you SHOULD worry.
actually it was like this:
- oblivion some rad flags but nothing too much to worry about
- fallout 3 some red flags
- Skyrim major red flags lots of stuff to worry about
- fallout 4 utter garbage and proof Bethesda is incompetent
- fallout 76 more of the same but even worse
@@peddazz2365 Still pissed that I can't have a giant companion.
Pedda ZZ Skyrim is one of the best games of all time what are you on?
aged like fine wine
Helmets, molded.
Refunds, non-fulfilled.
Hope, lost.
Yep, it's Bethesda time.
Hotel? Trivago.
OP, please never stoop below yourself and do what this disgusting, defective orangutan above me did.
Look at them. They come to this place when they know they are not pure. Tenno use the keys, but they are mere trespassers. Only I, Vor, know the true power of the Void. I was cut in half, destroyed, but through it's Janus key, the Void called to me. It brought me here, and here, I was reborn. Behold the Tenno, come to scavenge and desecrate this sacred realm. My brothers, did I not tell of this day, did I not prophesize this moment? Now, I will stop them. Now, I am changed, reborn, through the energy of the Janus key, forever bound to the Void. We cannot blame these creatures. They are led by a false prophet, an imposter who knows not the secrets of the Void. Let it be known: If the Tenno want true salvation, they will lay down their arms and wait for the baptism of my Janus key. They will learn it's simple truth. It is time. I will teach these trespassers the redemptive power of my Janus key. The Tenno are lost, and they will resist. But I, Vor, will cleanse this place of their impurity.
yet only mentions todd howard by name its almost as if there are various groups of people working on these games or something
Sometimes I wonder: what were people actually hoping given the fact that the Unofficial Patches for every Elder Scrolls/Fallout game over the last years fixed thousands of bugs...
You mean to tell me that New Vegas was made in 18 months?
I keep accumulating more and more respect for the people at Obsidian.
Obsidian has rich story of making games under 2 years. I feel like they are experienced like no other studio in rushing games (that don't suck ass on release)
EDIT: fixing minor spelling mistakes
@@Nazylexx kotor 2 is also a great example, they rushed it out in around 15 months, it wasnt really finished, a lot of content was cut, and its still considered to this day, by many, to be the greatest rpg of all time.
Not as shocking as you think when you consider that they had the engine already good to go and 70% of their assets done, all carried over from Fallout 3. Everyone comparing Bethesda to Obsidian because of New Vegas always somehow overlooks that the hardest job they actually had to do was write a good story and build a map at that point.
As you should
@@Mk_Otaid writing a good the story is the hardest part lol
Loved, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Oblivion and Skyrim.... Fallout 4 was where it started to change for me.
I'm currently replaying Fallout 4 and I'm enjoying that experience a lot. I also have 560 active plugins in my modlist. So I don't think it's the effort of Bethesda that I'm enjoying.
@@l0rfThats allot of plugins :D
Damn, and three years later, Starfield is one big fat lie
Yeah. It is. Maybe I’m not hard to please but I agree with the issues of starfield but I still like the game.
Todd is a real-life version of Michael from The Office.
😂😂😂 parkour!
Well, well, well, how the turntables ......
Wait wait wait...I have lithium batteries
Don't you insult Michael like that.
Except Michael is a good person at heart and is ultimately liked by his friends, unlike Todd Douchesniffer.
When I was younger, I thought that Bethesda was a low budget indie company, that's why I never complained about the shit animations that Skyrim has
Given the fact they've re-released Skyrim AGAIN and the only new content is fishing... are you sure they're not a low budget indie company?
Not only that but the new release will break thousands of mods that people worked hard to make them just for some money
@@theodoremarin4005 Wow u predicted the prediction
Skyrim was made by 80 people
You haven’t played Dino Crisis, have you?
This video needs a part 2 about Star field & its own disastrous launch.
Aged like a fine wine.
Enter console to Adjust Todd Howard,
-disable God Mode
-greatly increase intelligence
-decrease destruction magic
-decrease illusion magic
-greatly increase restoration
Or by Skyrim console command format:
-tgm 0
-kill
What about persuasion
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 Its bugged, he's at max cap. but the perks dont work anymore. Maybe Bethesda is plannin on patching that but no dates were released
Decrease charisma too
*target todd*
tgm
setav intelligence 100
setav destruction 0
setav illusion 0
setav restoration 100
when you are in a Roman museum and you say "hey look at these scrolls" and you go home to find out that you have been sued for $1 million by bethesda
Poor mojang
The bugs are part of the charm .
@@b3at2 that's what reviewers gets paid to say about bethesda games yes.
Oh so that's why the Roman empire ended. Because Bethesda sued them for being too similar to the imperials.
@@mohammadsaleem5990 lol
Watching this after starfield release looks even more accurate.
I like The Elder Scrolls series but to an extent. My first TES game was Daggerfall back when I was a high-schooler and got my first home computer in the late 90's along with Unreal, Diablo, and Half-Life and I loved that game and got REALLY good at it to the point that I got every ending eventually. I played Morrowind a few years later and liked the game a lot too but after beating it once I didn't really see a reason to re-play it and I didn't know about modding back then. When Oblivion came out I was getting into modding and loved that game and would spend many, many hours playing it because I was out of school and had my own place so after work I'd drink some beers/smoke some weed and it was a blast honestly and I still love the game.
When Skyrim came out I got married to my wonderful wife and we had two kids so I couldn't get as invested into it but it was fun nonetheless, I hated the magic system, the levelling was waaaay too streamlined, and the side quests were very lame to say the least. Plus, 90% of the game was grey-colored and the NPC's were too serious with the exception of a handful.
I've never played Arena but I'd rank them like this -
1. Oblivion
2. Daggerfall
3. Morrowind
4 Skyrim
I enjoyed them all for the most part though but even with dozens of active mods I still can't manage to get into it like I did with the others.
1:45 he didn't lie, he said you will never see a server, and if your disconnected from a server you can't see it
😮
“Players were burning sawmills in an attempt to damage the local economy” I laughed way too hard at that one
@hey it's pete bruh got ratio’d real quick
@hey it's pete 🧢
@hey it's pete I bet
@hey it's pete got ratio’d now you’re mad🤷🏻♂️you don’t speak r tard you are one 🤣
@@skaoi2286 This fucking guy, huh?
todd doesn't lie, he tells you what you want to hear regardless of factuality.
That falls under the definition of "lie"!
@@xxczerxx WHOOOSH.
Radiant did work as advertised in a build before release, they then toned it way down because NPCs had so many random behaviors it made the world too cahotic, an NPC might've decided to just walk away from it's regular path and you might find him/her at the town over or the middle of the wilderness.
HE DIDNT LIE OBLIVION NPCS ARE SMART AND ADVANCED MORE ADVANCED THAN GTA 5 NPC
if they couldn't release it then it didn't work
I would have preferred that. Supposedly the reason why some NPCs are immortal is because the Radiant AI would make them fall off cliffs and break the quest.
@@TheBrazilRules AND WALK INTO FIRE
Just because they didnt put the work in doesn't mean it wouldnt of worked.@@Numenorean921 dont confuse lazyness with impossibility. This is Bethesda, they can barely code anyway... The fans fix everything.
Todd Howard based all the daedric princes off his personality.
Omfg I laughed out loud when I've read this.
Cheese for everyone!
personalities*
Funny, except Todd didn't come up with the Daedric Princes.
I hate the Todd Coward fanboys :( I bet Todd is a f*cking narcissist in his personal life... reminds me of when he said “who’s laughing now” all smugly
Bethesda actually did take out the bug where if a giant killed you, your character wouldn't go flying in the air once. But people were so mad they went on and on about putting it back in until Bethesda did.
Oh wow. Bethesda fixed one of it's famously numerous bugs? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This isnt true. If I remember correctly he said he wasnt going to fix it because people liked it.
He didnt fix it, then remove it, or did he?
I'm pretty sure that isn't even a bug
@@slinkyslink5161 Knowing Bethesda and their ragdoll issues it probably is.
because its beautiful for some reason
I'm from the future. Starfield sucks.
no it is not
@@EkoFrankoit is
I wouldn't say it sucks, but I would definitely say that it's an incredibly mediocre game. Once the honeymoon phase is over, Starfield will either be completely forgotten or become the next dumping ground for people to force their mockery upon Bethesda.
thank you future man for your wisdom
@@EkoFranko 🤡🤡🤡
they just did it again
so basically todd howard just has speech 100
No, everyone else at negative intelligence
not anymore... too many FAILED lie attempts... he's more at like a 40 speech skill now... dubious at best.
He's running out of mana
@@rosalind1635 like you?
@@MrHydra12 sick burn bro
You know this phrase: “unscripted NPC” always felt awkward to me! I mean, those NPCs are still acting according to the script! The only difference is that the script itself is more sophisticated and doesn’t just activates with one trigger but with a bunch of triggers or it just has several equally possible actions for the npc to do linked to one trigger. In the end npc is always controlled by the script!
I never thought of it that way. I think scripted means it's supposed to go down in one fixed manner. Like a scripted reality show or something. Being dynamic it can happen in several way which are seperately scripted ofcourse but as a whole it isn't.
HairySeagull
Yeah, maybe you’re right and the “script” here means something like a “movie script” that is not supposed to react to the player’s actions and just plays out at some certain point of time in the game...
I’m a programmer myself so the term “script” feels like something more flexible for me!
@@HairySeagull You are thinking about the word "linear", but yeah, most people mean that when they use word "scripted", myself included.
Are we talking about Bethesda's remaining fans?
unscripted will mean that they don't work
Spiderman 2: ray tracing in all quality modes
Starfield: locked at 30 FPS
Does anyone need to say more about how to actually leverage new hardware?
Todd Howard
Speech: 100
Craftsmanship: 1
"You will never even see the server, that you play on."
What does that even mean? You'll play the game blind?
I wouldn’t be a much worse experience, lol
Tod hinting the fact servers will be shut down in the near future.
No it means that you can not even access them 🙈
Well if it isn't there...
It means the map won't render in and you've gotta give it to him he delivered there
I got an idea, how about stop giving them side money.
IF ONLY PEOPLE CLUED INTO THIS, THEY CAN'T MAKE ANYMORE GAMES IFTHEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
@@kingofhits6164 It's no different from people that complain about the 1% and then proceed to buy iPhones and McDonald's. It seems like nobody can stand by their convictions anymore. More than half the people commenting here still go out and buy EA games, yet they'll complain about micro-transactions and slimy business tactics.
There's always a new generation of suckers who don't yet understand.
Don't buy the game until the word of mouth is good. Then you can buy.
@@deltaket6485 this for FFV II Remake too but you know the pre-orders are sold out.... I'm still waiting
This aged like Fine wine in antique crystal glass bottles, on a stack of fine art, in a vault from WW2
1000 planets
The problem?
The bugs? Sure... but what is worst is *the greed.*
Without the greed the bugs wouldn`t even be there , but say hello to friggi`n Zenimax who ruins themselves this way . You cannot , by the way , reason with greed so ....bye bye Bethesda .
Once a gaming company gets big enough they become extremely greedy, they only stop or become less greedy if they suffer low sales. It's like a curse it happened to Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft,
Software focused game companies like EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, etc.
The only reason they are recognized as "the best" developers in the industry is because the bar is so low its getting dirty on the ground.
thats what ive been saying alot of AAA games are complete dogshit because they don't add anything creative or new or anything that makes the game enjoyable. then people wonder how they made such shit games and got away with it, well its like no shit you bought the product of course they going to feed you the same shit
They were NEVER recognized as the best developers in the industry, literally never, what are you even talking about?
@@NicaremE Mass gamer opinion, I have yet to hear anybody being the "official" best game developer OR anybody giving two tugs of a dead dogs dick over who the "best official" developer is. It's all opinion guy. If you couldn't extrapolate that... Well heaven help ya.
Yep. How the fuck are there TINY, few-man "companies" out there making large and functional games, and a company with hundreds of employees can't? I'm sure no-one here knows Unreal Tournament, but it was made as an ad for the Unreal engine, by the same originally tiny company who made Fortnite. These guys obviously since fucked off all of us, their fans.. But hey, at least the Unreal games were never meant to be large serious games, but just a showcase for how awesome the engine is, and they were 100% made for mods, Killing Floor was a mod for ut2004 originally!
But how could their tiny game advertising their engine be better than 90% of anything released today?? Go pickup Unreal Tournament 2004, I'm sure it'll be a fw bucks, there are probably close to a million mods for it, and not weak ones either, some making the game into a COD like shooter, others into a story-driven game.
It's so low it's scrapping against Earth's molten core.
Oh shit this is 4 years ago.
People saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
Great timing now that Starfield is out, now we wait for that 5+ hour video of all the bugs
"You'll never even see the servers when you play", because you won't be able to log in to them!
He kept his promise
i find it funny that some people actually think Todd makes all the decisions.
Whaddaya want, it's the internet hivemind. I mean, people still believe ESO is a Bethesda game and they blame them for every problem in ESO, that's the level of intelligence on the internet.
They have 3 intellegence build
Does it matter, though? Making the decisions, or not, is in fact irrelevant, the moment he becomes the spokeperson for Bethesda.
And, yeah "it's not his call, what choice does he have", I know... except, he actually has a choice. Focus on things that will not backfire, rather than acting like some dodgy kickstarter project advertiser, spitting lie after lie.
What's worse, is that, even at this time, Bethesda, and Zenimax, still have the golden egg goose, and, people WILL buy their shit, even the literal ones.
@@DJYannisMartynov I’m not saying that its ok from him. But since he is the face and people in videos tend to put him like he makes the decisions i find it funny that some people legit think he makes the calls. He knows what to say and i agree that its not ok.
@@tostadorafuriosa69 It's not actually unreasonable that people reacted in this manner. Not to him, or anyone at any similar position. Anyone that reacted, doesn't have to know who exactly takes what decisions, unless the decisions themselves are the subject of a public presentation. Todd Howard, taking the speaker podium, assumes the responsibility of what he presents, even if he has no power over any decisions made around the product/project/presentation theme in general. Wether it's ok, or not, moral or not, ethical or not isn't my point. My point is, he's the one that pitched the whole thing. He gets the praise and glory when the "whole thing" is great, and the blame and ridicule when he lies to hide all and any flaws or unethical/greed-driven decisions his superiors made. Which is most likely the reason his paycheck is a 5 or even 6 figure one. Taking the responsibility ain't cheap!
4:07 "Over 1000 planets"
But Starfield put them back on track!......oh....wait
Fallout 76 is so bad it makes every generic asian mmorpg looks good
League of Angels anybody
@@AlexJonesGaming pardon me i play black desert mobile
But damn league of angels is basically some gravures and stuff lmao
I wouldnt go that far
@@MochiDyr I guess you have to be Asian to appreciate them. To us Europeans most of them are just plain creepy. Seriously what's with all the Lingerie on Girls that look like Cats or Foxes?
Ikr, just finished metro Exodus with ray-traycing and I almost threw up when I went back to check out fallout....
They successfully made me never care about them.
Yet you’ll be playing ES6 in release day I bet!
@@luke.s1346 it has to be incredibly good game. And I can't see them make good games with the current management and game engine.
They They They They They They They They They They They They They They They They They They
As a big Skyrim fanboy, they have certainly caused me to rethink ever purchasing from them again, let alone pre purchasing a game
They messed up on one game calm down
Bethesda honestly doesn’t deserve the ips they have anymore. Fallout and elder scrolls need better
not giving them Royalties because New Vegas wasn't +85 score on Metacritic is really wild considering they didn't even give them another 6 months to finish the game, Tod Howard is a scumbag that's been bad for Fallout and Elder Scrolls
This is how I feel about Game Freak who got lucky with Pokemon. I'd love to see a better team take over and actually bring something new and refreshing to mainline pokemon games.
I'm 85% certain that if it had been Bethesda or EA that was responsible for the cut dex, absolutely no one would have been okay with it.
The absolute ONLY reason that GameFreak was able to get away AT ALL is because...it's Pokemon.
Modern pokemon is dead, people only play the older games like gen 1-5
I really wanna see Monolith Soft take over. They might be the single greatest studio.
@@lentilad Their recent game was pretty mediocre in my opinion. Little Town I think it was called? I just feel the franchise needs to be reinvented at this point. I might be in the minority, but the combat has become incredibly dull for me. Maybe it's because I started with red/blue and I'm 30 now, but I guess I just wanted Pokemon to grow up with me more than just a little bit? If that makes sense.
@@TheAbsol7448 Platinum Games would like to have a word with you.
at the same moments when bethesda release the fallout 1st. Obsidian release the outer worlds.
this is the only good communication bethesda did for the last year.
Speaking of communication, yours sucks
@@hecc7906 lol
@@grimjudgment6527 Speaking of your comment "Speaking of 'Speaking of', you're speaking..." you are speaking of someone that's speaking without speaking of certain speaking things that are usually done by speaking
@Tanel
So much for _PC Master Race,_ eh?
*[Laughs in Xbox]*
The thing I always remember about the AI is that it was a big deal also because they had a kind of "free will",. But the idea was abandoned cos sooner or later they would roll the urge to steal and all the properties would be empty
BUT WHY NOT MAKE PROPERTY RESPAWN LIKE IN SKYRIM
@@NigerianCrusaderturn of all caps
@@kitty-danger i JUST SPEAK IN CAPS TO GETY MY POPINT ACROSS
@@NigerianCrusadergood point… didn’t think about it like that
@@NigerianCrusader WHAT IN TODD'S NAME IS A POPINT
this has aged like fine wine lolz starfield blows
“What interests do you have in videogames?”
“What’s a videogame?”
*”Hi, welcome to Bethesda.”*
Fun fact, this is a recreation of Todd's interview.
They should just make demo games that people can customize at this point.
most accurate comment ever made on the subject.
With that said tho, I have tons of fun playing their games.
@@bobcat24 your fun is irrelevant, the game's trash
Maybe Todd's evil twin Hodd Toward took over Bethesda?
More like Hodd Towards evil twin Todd "it just works" Howard took over Bethesda
Nah, Todd is the more incompetent twin brother who's so charismatic that he can steal the glory of his competent but more shy brother, Ted Howard.
WE'RE GONNA NEEED
16 TIMES THE DETAIL
This video aged well.
unlike those molding helmets