Why I'm Worried About Elder Scrolls 6
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- čas přidán 10. 12. 2023
- Why I'm Worried About Elder Scrolls 6
Well guys, now that Starfield has come and gone, it's time to start looking towards the future. Bethesda has had a messy 10 years, but with Skyrim's follow up The Elder Scrolls 6 soon to be on the way, can their reputation be salvaged? With the mediocre receptions of Fallout 4, the abysmal state for Fallout 76 and the sad reality that is Starfield, I'm a bit worried. Let me know what you guys think, no hate to my fellow game developers. I just wanna see a company that I love succeed, I know they are capable of it. - Hry
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I'm so happy to see Starfield tank. We cannot approve of mediocrity from Bethesda anymore.
I’m glad that it did because now Bethesda knows what it must do to achieve greater results.
@@doctorligma1083 Conveniently forgetting that FO 76 was a monumental flop and it did absolutely nothing to motivate Bethesda to do better.
Bethesda doesn't care. They're going to keep putting out games like Starfield forever. Add on Bethesda's laziness with Microsoft's laziness and you're not going to get quality.
@@esteemedyamsBecause F76 wasn’t developed by their primary team, was their first online game and surprisingly improved a lot over time
@@night6724Ok I'm sorry, but your post is maximum cope. Bethesda, ALL of Bethesda, is incompetent trash.
It was hilarious watching Tod not win a single award for his game this year😂 Let's be honest starfield was overhyped trash🤔
He also met the main dude at no man's sky which was reported to have a huge boost in sales after starfields launch lmao.
Seems people wanted a real space game
@@daizenmarcurio I hope he understands why people love no man's sky more than Starfield but I think his ego won't allow him to see it. The main dude is what Tod used to be. Before he sold his soul. Internet Historian has a great video on the guy btw.
@@scen0x541 I miss the Old Todd....He really did care back then and he had passion for actually creating something HE would want to play IRL...now he just says that while looking bored out of his mind....and now also He is now an actual Skyrim NPC stuck at his shop stall in the middle of the night in Winterhold while a blizzard bears down on him as he Smiles and says "Good Day Friend"...NO...NO its NOT!!....YOU SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT...ALSO I KILLED YOUR LEADER AND I AM NAKED WHILE GUARDS BEHIND ME CHECK A DEAD BODY FOR LINGERING WARMTH.......but none of this is strange to you mr. NPC shop stall worker guy!?
Skyrim only good now BECAUSE OF mods.....no other reason. PERIOD. Vanilla is not that great compared to Anniversary. Skyrim world exploration was perfect though, I couldn't fall off a cliff without finding something cool.
@@matthewchandler7845 Eh, I don't know. Dude has always made false promises and overexaggerated his products.
Remember the interview that he said that Fallout 3 would have 200+ endings?
its funny how you watched someone else with that same video then made a comment about it.
Consider, It's Been FIVE YEARS since the announcement trailer!
They keep hinting it'll be on the new console. New Xbox console drops in 2028 so I'm guessing late 2028 , early 2029. I hope miss Shirley Curry is around to see herself in the game.
And they started development only after Starfield's release...
@@accaziahs.180that’s absolutely insane, there will be people younger than skyrim driving cars before elder scrolls 6 comes out…
Announcement trailers are just project advertisements to draw people in to work on the game.
WHAT??
When has a game studio being acquired by a larger company ever worked out? All creativity dies when it happens.
As if the creativity problem with Bethesda had started after the acquisition
@@davimathias6721 It certainly didn't make it better
@@Patrick-zr8tvThen people should say that, instead of trying to sound smart.
I am 43 now and I have aged past the point of playing any game that doesn’t immediately hook me. Life is too short, man. Nothing can possibly stack up to a 15 year (or longer) wait. Sad to say that I no longer care as much as I once did; I used to do a regular search for any scrap of news!
I can relate, pal. However I think that the degradation of the game industry made you think this way, not your age. Most new games just are not worth playing.
No, I agree with you too. I was once excited then over 10 years past. Was halfway over it then starfield launched and... 100% over it
Bethesda has shown they are not a company that can deliver on the hype anymore. Thats why people are still excited for GTA VI but not for TES VI.
Bethesda is stuck in the past and rely to much on their modding community. Baldur's Gate 3 blew Starfield out of the water, Bethesda's reign ended several years ago now least since FO4 when the Witcher 3 was GOTY. Now that I'm in my 30s I can understand not wanting to waste time on something that will be mediocre, but there are some interesting indie titles coming out these days.. most of the AAA market is in major decline.
He wasn’t talking about his age being a factor in that, he outright said life is too short. It’s the mediocre games that did it.
One of biggest issues is a lot of the TES and Fallout story and lore writers are no longer at Bethesdsa. One of the biggest draws for Bethesda games is the expansive lore. It's something that Starfield sorely lacks.
Yep. Starfield was very lacking in lore and the ability to discover locations with interesting facts/history. They tried, but they fell on their face.
Look at the worldbuilding in Starfield versus Morrowind. It's not even close. One is GOTY worthy and the other feels like a half-finished Indie concept game.
@@husky3g I'll tell you what, seeing the same buildings copy-pasted over and over again, complete with exactly the same 'lore' (i.e. same notes placed in same containers, etc) really soured me on the whole lore thing. It took me out of the moment entirely, made me too aware I was playing a corporate product, rather than a labor of love.
Thank DEI for that
I unironically think they should bring in the ESO writers for Elder Scrolls 6
@@redred1952Emil pagliaro is a shitty writer + isn’t diverse
Based on Starfield, I'm worried this is the wake of The Elder Scrolls. Like we're gonna watch it get prepared, put in a casket, attend the funeral, and watch it get lowered down into the pit. All in slow motion too.
Why only based on Starfield?
Look at "THE ELDER SCROLLS online" twelve years ago right after Skyrim.
Everyone was asking Bethesda for SKYRIM co-op mode.
All the way back to Morrowind 20 years ago people wanted main line TES co-op.
Instead we got that microtransaction hellhole TESO, detached from the gameplay, story and look of the original TES games.
Then Fallout 4. Then Fallout 76. And now, ontop of all of that yes Starfield too.
And look at their gamer merch scams and fails.
Look at the upcoming "Fallout" TV series.
For me personally there is not a single spark of hope left for any Bethesda product.
TES 6 used to really excite me six years or so ago.
Now I am certain I won't be buying it.
Arena - 6/10
Daggerfall - 8/10
Morrowind - 9/10
Oblivion - 8/10
Skyrim - 6/10
I say TES 6 will be worse, probably 4/10 going from Fallout 76 and Starfield.
And pay 70 dollars to attend the fucking funeral as well
@@davimathias6721 Why would you do that?
There is a high chance it will not be worth it.
You have the option to wait and watch reviews, or maybe borrow it from someone else before buying (family share, borrow the disk) if you really want to give it a chance.
Honestly I'm terrified for ES6. Looking across the Elder Scrolls series, they're clearly toning down the unique and fantastical elements with every installment, and now their new franchise is being criticized for having boring, empty planets and uninteresting lore. The teaser they released shows us the most bland, vanilla map imaginable, situated either in northern Hammerfell or High Rock - literally the two least interesting areas of Tamriel. No sentient jungles, no crystal towers, no migrating tree cities, just a f***ing field. That's what Bethesda thinks will make fans drool.
The Elder Scrolls is a beloved franchise to me, and I can't bear the thought of ES6 being a boring, generic, empty RPG whose main selling point is a world with 300 billion quadrillion square kilometers to "explore." I hope Starfield is a wake-up call for Bethesda but they just seem to have no idea what fans want or why their older games were popular.
Well High Rock has Rivenspire and the Direnni tower and Hammerfell has Volenfell
As long as emil pagliarulo is still there then we have every right to be worried. Most of the Top TES writers are gone too sadly
didnt he quit though?
@@Ph33NIXx you're prolly talking about kurt khuulman which yes he did leave and that dude was described as the "bible" of the elder scrolls.
@@daizenmarcurio I was sure I heard patricianTV say he quit. But when I google it i can only see that its lead quest designer Will Shen that quit.
So yeah. as long as Emil Pagliarulo is there with his hatred of design documents.. we will not be getting a good game.
Its was a sad realization to me that the reason TES is still alright is that its build on lore written by better writers...
@@daizenmarcurio oh no man
Emil blocked me on Twitter. I asked him "So why is it that every person that gets to help write a life changing game a spineless, pathetic, low iq manchild?"
I think after 76 and Starfield's middling standing, ES6 has suddenly become a do-or-die game for this studio. BGS will need to reinvent the wheel for it to get their reputation back. I just hope it will be worth the wait when it comes out for my kids to enjoy.
This can be a good thing, let's see what happens. I hope Microsoft acquisition helps them with new technology and better engine.
Do or die, like it was with Oblivion. Perhaps these failures on games most of ppl did not even want are the stuff they needed to make tes6 great😁
You mean a Hail Mary game. lol.
I dont plan on waiting for it. I'll just keep playing Morrowind and ESO.And when it is released I'll wait for the reviews to come in and see how much they'll charge for it.
That’s what was said about Starfield. The goalpost is constantly moved and they still never make it.
I would not bet on it. Neither Microsoft nor Bethesda are really known for "learning" here. Microsoft does not have a great trackrecord with game studios. And I do not think Bethesda can change that quickly. So you will be looking at Elder Scrolls to release in what? 7 Years? And they are supposed to switch engine, switch development principles, hire new people, make all sorts of changes AND deliver a great game? I doubt it.
As someone who enjoyed Morrowind, I was very worried about ESVI when I played Skyrim. It was fun, I put a lot of hours into it, but after Morrowind I expected half-decent writing, worldbuilding that made sense, a compelling antagonist and a dirth of characters with interesting motivations and personalities. That last thing is the only one of those Skyrim even has, but those good characters are few and far between. In terms of mechanics and exploration, Skyrim can be very engaging. Morrowind made me expect a higher standard in the creative writing department, and Bethesda has only gotten worse since then. The writing has been their biggest failing since Oblivion in my opinion.
I think people overlook what you’ve said here! Skyrims world building and story is kinda bad. It’s a huuge playground which is why it’s an incredibly fun game, but it’s nothing more than that. It’s story isn’t nearly as immersive as witcher 3, and tes6 will have to compete with that
Honestly the well is poisoned.
On one had you have a developer who’s pathologically afraid of taking risks and overelies on modding to make their games playable.
Then on the other hand, you have a group of “fans” on the internet who are ready to tear down a game before they’ve even seen it.
Why do so many people make up baseless accusations about the modding community? Their words and actions have NEVER demonstrated they're reliant on modders for anything.
I wouldn't credit Skyrim without mentioning Morrowind and Oblivion.
I spent countless hours in Morrowind climbing mountains, finding random holes, exploring their depths and being excited because I found a book.
Then Id actually read tge book, page by page, in real time.
This type of gaming is long dead. This depth, soul, fun and replayability is not a part of the modalities of modern game development
100%
I wanted to type the same thing. I remember finding the skull crusher in some deep cave, I think it was even like a grotto and it actually felt like, oh, I accomplished something. I spent hours and hours in that game too!!! in Morrowind you had to think. It kind of forced you to explore but, it was fun!! Now they just kind of lay out a red carpet for you and hold your hand along the way.
@@galimirnund6543 1000%🤣
Fact😭
facts my friend. facts. Morrowind was replete with hidden spaces and loot and readable material.
bethesda rethinking their formula is how we got 1000 procedural planets with nothing on them Bethesda needs to look at what made their games great and crack it up to 11
Starfield plays the same as fallout 4 and skyrim, there was no rethinking involved, it's just being lazy and making all dungeons spawn from a leveled list that was available two decades ago in creation engine.
The last great game they made was morrowind. Their last good game was oblivion. They suck at making games.
So, mods?
Because that's basically all Bethesda ever had going for them; mod support.
Anyone who tells you that they still play Skyrim vanilla is just lying.
@@PratosKSNo skyrim was amazing
@@esteemedyamsMy sister still plays vanilla skyrim. I even play it sometimes
I used to care. Now I'm just curious if it will be released before I'm dead (I'm 60yrs old).
On the bright side, even if it sucks, I still have Skyrim, which I've been playing faithfully for 8 years now.
Bethesda could fix its game if it followed these rules:
(1) Shun the complicated for the simple
(2) Fix game menus
(3) Put your focus on depth not breadth
(4) Your stories are at best mediocre (your lore is fine for some games), so unlike starfield, make sure that your stories don't get in the way of the game.
(5) Update your damn game engine
Lol never gonna happen you succers will buy anyway .so get ready for Skyrim 2 no improvements less features as always streamlined
i am worried about TES VI because gaming (especially on PC) is in sad, miserable state right now. The fact that Baldurs Gate 3 with it's sheer quality has made others game developers worried is both hilarious and concerning. Modern game companies stopped treating games as art, and treating it right now merely as a product.
What's really sad is that -Baldur's- Divinity OS 3 is the thing that makes developers worried.
BG3 is a buggy mess with a trash story
BG3 is mid and still got game of the year. Maybe cuz of the woke shit in it. Fromsoftware is the last true corpo remaining
TES IV came out in 2006, though? Its a bit too late to worry about that one.
@@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo fixed
I think Starfield should have cut down the bloat and focused on just creating a few planets that were packed with as much density, objectives, and things to do as the Skyrim map. I think I was in a bit of denial when I got FO76 on day one, thinking that maybe this was just a misstep for Bethesda and they would learn their lesson from putting out such a lazy, unpolished release. But no. It’s pretty much been all downhill since then. I’m also worried about ES6 as Skyrim is probably one of my favorite games, despite its flaws.
I pretty much agree with this. Rather than having a constellation of solar systems (it's not an entire galaxy at all), they should have kept it to a single solar system that was inhabited by a T1 civilization.. sort of like the Expanse series where there are undercurrents of a civil war and perhaps an even bigger secret.
This right here is the way.
This. The game's so bloated. Its like a bag of chips. Almost half the content is air.
Stanfield showed us just how outdated brokethesda has become.
That’s why I’m still playing Skyrim and not even worrying about es6
My main issue with Starfield is the disjointed worlds, it killed that desire in me to just drop everything and go wonder hoping to find interesting stuff to see. Now you know what you landing at on a planet surface. either a genereic cave, a generic facility or one of those repetitive temples. No unique questline that can accidentaly be found there unless you were pointed to it by an NPC in another planet...
Starfield has the most bland and uninteresting world of any Bethesda's games.
They'd have porbably been better off making taylored experiences and distributing them randomly, like random encounters. So exploring is rewarding because you'll see a new thing wherever you go. They could set them on timers for how long you play or level and suddenly people have a unique experience
I was worried it would be bad the moment they said they weren't using aliens... Like they did realize why people hated mudcrabs right? Instead they made a game where somehow that might be the most interesting foe to be randomized... Skyrim did all sorts of creeping horror too that they could have included in the procedural generation too had it been more story/narrative guided... But honestly after watching clips of gameplay... Brute Force a halo1 Contemporary had more interesting hazards to explore... And at least there you had an awesome squad to change it up.
The disjointed worlds wouldn't have been that bad if they actually filled it in with things. Like, you know, if they actually innovated and came up with a neat way to meld procedural generation and hand-built experiences together or at the very least FINISHED their game. NPCs are half-baked and there's barely any variety to combat. It's like they got so caught up with perfecting each fucking crumb on the food but forgot that they had to make a game to go along with their models.
They coulda just made 10 actually fleshed out planets
Great video. I must have at least 1000 hours or more in Skyrim and 400 hours in Fallout 4. I put 60 hours into Starfield then uninstalled it, vowing never to touch it again. The trust is almost gone for TES6, whereas pre Starfield I used to talk about living long enough to see it (I’m not young).
At this stage, I’m disengaged from TES6. I will be very wary of any publicity prior to release and like you will be scrutinising the wording used in its marketing. If I’m alive and they release it, I’ll probably wait a few weeks before deciding to buy it to see what real people think of it. I mean you cannot trust the gaming magazines can you? They gave Starfield 10/10, so they are not on the consumers side.
It breaks my heart that Bethesda focussed on Starfield INSTEAD of TES6 for all those years, I just don’t understand that.
In short, I’ve gone from living for it, to disengaged…. Such is the damage done by Starfield.
I could understand the focus... But I hadn't realized they basically never STARTED TES6 until after it released... Especially if they won't make it multi-platform...
Bethesda has taken cues from our gobment.... lies and propaganda....
I understand your criticism of gamer magazines rating games but i understand that when you have to review a game that according to bethesda wants to be played for hundreds of hours, but people want a review ASAP makes it hard to make an accurate review since they had days to form an opinion while the players have no time limit and will keep playing the game later on
Same here. 1200+ hours in Skyrim, probably 750 minimum in Oblivion and the same in Morrowind back in the day. Basically a TES fan for 20 years. My hope for TES VI is that Starfield turns out to be a blessing in disguise. BGS is still in denial over SF's reception (as evidenced by their responses to Steam reviews) but I hope they take their fanbase seriously and realize that TES6 will make them or break them, for real this time. It's a game people have been waiting for for over a decade, whereas Starfield basically came out of the blue. If they mess up TES6, all faith is lost. Let us pray they put their focus on quality instead of quantity.
I love Skyrim and oblivion and always will but I have to admit I’m scared es6 could be a let down especially since it’s been so long but I’m most definitely gonna give it a chance and hope for the best
The Elder Scrolls Online, Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and Starfield were letdowns for me.
The past 12 years they have proven time and time again that TES 6 will be a letdown and that they do not care about changing that.
I'll be honest I totally forgot another Elder Scrolls was going to be a thing until I clicked this video. I stopped caring that much.
I feel like they're testing the waters with Starfield to see what they can get away with, which still looks scary for TES VI
@@James__Smith It's basically the same thing in space. If you think that vanilla Skyrim is an exceptional video game then you're just delusional.
The quests are much better in skyrim@@esteemedyams
@@esteemedyams It's really not. Skyrim has great, detailed environments. You can wander anywhere and see something interesting. Starfield feels cramped the entire time, with god damn loading screens everywhere, and completely lacking the sense of wonder the other TES games have.
Also, since you're blindly shitting on Skyrim I'm gonna guess you're a Morrowind stan lol.
Well, they won't advertise that TES6 will have procedurely Generated dungeons, 100% randomized loot and rewards, no mainquest- since why bother at that point if people ignore it, no other forms of transport than horses and fast travel, filler npcs, and just as many loadingscreens as any previous title.
@anubis7457 I'm pretty sure most Morrowind stans also like Skyrim more than Starfield lol
Bethesda has now proven that it can absolutely rock loading screens so I'm sure we'll see more of this technology in ES6.
Team Oblivion here
Will always be the best game in my heart!
I can't even pretend to be excited for TES 6 anymore. As much as people say that "Skyrim revolutionised the genre" or whatever, I can't say that it did. It didn't do anything that Daggerfall, Morrowind, or even Oblivion didn't already do; it just caught the attention of people who had been ignoring this series for 15+ years.
To its credit, it did renew people's interest in the open world genre, I feel. My main problem with that thought is that it has made Bethesda become complacent. They seem to think that Skyrim was their magnum opus (it isn't) and that every game to follow needs to just be Skyrim but with a new coat of paint. They haven't updated their game design for over a decade; if anything, it has regressed in quality.
Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe TES 6 will surprise me. I doubt it though. At this point, I'm just going to wait and see how things go. I wasn't disappointed with Starfield because I expected nothing; my plans for TES 6 are basically the same.
No idea why people have so much loyalty to a corporation when it's the creators that make the games they love. Everyone responsible for the best titles are gone.
Buyers remorse, mostly. People try to convince themselves that they didn't just throw 70$ out the window and that they weren't fooled by the marketing campaign.
These are the people you see fighting tooth and nail online, trying to convince everyone that it's actually a good thing that Starfields planets are mostly empty becaues it's "more realistic this way".
Then there are the ones who simply have no standards when it comes to choosing their entertainment, god bless 'em.
No dont bless this idiots. Its they fault we cant have nice games anymore@@esteemedyams
People are stupid. There's really no higher or complex reason to it. It's why we get all this woke crap and lazy development.
You can see the signs of the progression of mediocrity from Bethesda all the way back to Fallout 3.
Their worlds have been shallow and poorly written. Starfield has just enhanced and displayed it to the majority of gamers.
I have no faith that TES6 will be good at all.
people are dumb
From my understanding, those devs and artists who created all the best Bethesda games left at some point, and there you go.
I remember reading about some internal controversy between the top guys in the company. 1 guy wanted TES to be action-adventure style and the other wanted to stay with the traditional rpg style.
@@tdestroyer4780 There was an article in which a former employee couldn't understand how Skyrim was made, because it was like monkeys with typewriters creating Shakespeare. And these genius monkeys have since gone.
In the recent WIRED interview Todd says the team that created Skyrim was about 100 people. Starfields team is 400+. This shows that more doesn't necessarily mean better.
They also refuse to change their engine…
Every game of theirs lately literally looks exactly like Skyrim’s and fallout…they are literally all the same copy/paste of each other…
We are living in an amazing time to be a gamer. We have so many good games over the years that when a much anticipated game isn't the best game we have ever played, it can be really disappointing. I always try to remember that these games are made by imperfect people working for imperfect corporations. When the hype starts to build, I have to remind myself, DON'T PREORDER.
Starfield proved that Bugthesda is a mere shell of its former self.
All the passion is gone - replaced by greed and mediocrity.
Emil pagliarulo literally has admitted he does not care about writing a good story because video game fans wouldnt appreciate it. BG3 proved him wrong but he doesnt listen to criticism so nothing will change.
Bethesda too stuck in the old way and just produce mediocre stuff these days. I honestly won’t bother with their game if they are the developer
Hey don't worry mate, they have an army of unpaid devs who will fix their broken games through mods so that we, the players, can actually enjoy the game how it was meant to be. It's all good !
@@gsquarehead except they aren't. The more prolific modders are just walking out on Starfield as they don't want to work on a mod for something that bores them senseless
I bet you say that every time.
No, they've stripped away most of what made the old games good. The old way was the better way, and they've streamlined it to the point that it has become a shell of itself. They've forgotten why people liked their games in the first place.
Bruh Bethesda can be great again. They have beèn developing this game for over a decade... comon bro have some faith??
A cool idea for an open world themed game is your character can see the future. What that means is: whenever you die, your last save loads in with your character describing how they saw themselves die as well as any other NPCs who were with them. Through death, your character is able to unlock new information about the quest before it happens. This would make setbacks let annoying and actually interesting if the game is crafted correctly. Thoughts on how to flesh out that game?
TES has been one of my favorite series. When I would visit one of my friend her brother would either always be playing fallout 3, Oblivion, or Mass Effect.
Skyrim was my first TES, I fell in love with it and the Khajiit. That started a years long journey to then play Oblivion, then morrowind, daggerfall, and even dabbling in arena.
And while the only game who's main story I played all the way through was skyrim. I was still thoroughly enjoying oblivion when the urge to play hit me, and I liked to spend entire weekends delving into morrowind.
But with my laptop broken beyond repair I'll have to wait for a new one before I can re-download morrowind and daggerfall
What im saying is...is that i Really, REALLY...REEEEEEEALLY dont want to be disappointed in TES6. i would love for the developers to really put their best effort into it and make it the kind of game that doesnt need to appeal to as wide an audience as they think they have to make it. Bring back the deeper lore, deeper character and class creation, have fun with the story and make it the kind of storys we can get the good kind of lost in.
If there has to be procedurely generated caves and dungeons, then add so many more options that could be used. Just add as much variety as can be stuffed, go back and add personal touches.
I just wanna see an elder scrolls game be a little wild and weird, role play heavy and look like they've learned and retained knowledge from how newer, and the best rpgs have evolved with the times.
Bethesda cannot fail, they no longer exist. Todd is just an employee of Microsoft now, and Bethesda has been reduced to a collection of junior programmers and an IP catalogue. And seeing that Todd has now been put in charge of movie/comic-book hero games I really have to wonder if Todd will even have the chance to 'direct' another Elder Scrolls. And if it does come out, I'll wait for the reviews first before I put down any cash.
Why would you want Todd to direct any video game ever again when he is the reason behind dumbing them down and playing safe? Guy should pack his bags ASAP.
Bethesda in name only.
Been saying this since Skyrim(which was also a bug filled mess at launch). That game was a definate downgrade on Oblivion, and fallout 76 was trash, now this?...
Bethesda in name only.
Hell look at Arkane? They running parallel to Bethesda. Not made a good game since Dishonored 2 (deathloop was trash btw).
Worst thing that happened to Bethesda was the buy out. Now they have zero reasons to make games that are proper quality anymore.
This is the correct answer. People need to look past names and consider that they only exist for legal purposes, the group of people everyone thinks of as Bethesda scattered over a decade ago.
Todd Howard was never great. Kirkbride and Rolston were behind all things we like about TES. Try to guess which Bethesda game is Todd Howard's least favourite? Bingo, Morrowind! And it says everything.
@@Tito_michi his least favorite, but the best in the series. Just like he doesn't like New Vegas, because they got schooled on how to make an actual RPG.
Starfield is probably the first game that actually made me really upset just because of missed expectations. I legit created a 4 or 5 page word doc with my friend following its release just listing things we both hated about it, and we probably could have kept going. I really don't believe in Bethesda anymore. ES6 is gonna be this: more brainless writing, radiant/procedural (AKA Lazy) content so the devs don't have to think that hard, ESG boosters (diversity where it makes 0 sense. believe me I love me some good variety) enemy AI that will kill itself trying to look like it's doing something... I realized I'm typing everything out lmfao but really I could go forever - without question, I will not buy ES6 until reviews are out which is the saddest thing on the planet as I have probably around 3k hours in the elder scrolls series combined
That's funny because Skyrim was the first game like that for me. My brother and I were huge Morrowind fans and spent a long time talking about how they removed all the RPG elements. We vowed to never pre-order a game again. It's insane how much worse Starfield is than Skyrim.
Hello Games, the studio that made No Man's Sky, announced on TGA their next game: It will be called Light No Fire...
That trailer was the most watched trailer of all games announced on TGA, with more than 5.5 million views in less than 3 days...
Guess what this game is about? A massive open world game set in a fantasy world.
When i look at that trailer, I SAW Elder Scrolls 6, and you know what? I'm more hyped for LNF than ES6.
Probably wait till after the paid reviews, I fell for the paid reviews and bought starfield...
@@aersla1731 frankly i going to tell this, you are right, especially in be careful with a company that alreay underdeliverd once... BUT, you need to be aware of something, this game was in production for 5 years, and you can clearly has NMS DNA on it, wich means that the experience of HG is at play here, at least on what we saw in the trailer, i can clearly see some of the animations of NMS in some of the players
If TES6 will have the same writer & design director as Starfield, then you can be 100% sure that it will be the same disapointment... if not bigger.
My TES6 storyline - You wake up in a sinking ship, in the middle of a huge storm. You're below deck in a cell, there are holes in the hull and water is flooding in everywhere. A harpoon slams into the ships hull. A guard rushes in and tells you that your being attacked by the Thalmor. He unlocks the cell and orders you to help save the ship. You begin bashing blocks of wood into the holes but its no good, fuck! you are going to drown, you manage to swim up to the main deck, a storm is raging, you see the attacking Thalmor ship, there are dead guards all over the place. There's a fireball ready in a seige machine, you pull the lever, the fire ball hits the deck of the opposing ship killing a few soldiers, but another volley of harpoons hit your ship and it sinks beneath the waves.
Next you wake up bleary eyed on a frozen beech, with flotsam and jetsam all over the place. Your sight slowly returns. You look up, what the hell, is that the College of Winterhold! Skyrim...why am I here? You search around through the wreckage, you find a chest with your seized items in it. You find part of a dwemer artifact and a notebook with pictures of the full item and notes about time travel. You decide to head up to the nearest road whilst wondering what the hell is going on. There are Thalmor patrols and road blocks everywhere. You hide and sneek along the road, suddenly you see someone tied to a post, you get closer it's M'aiq the Liar, he's been left to die as a traitor. You ask him what's going on, he tells you that the Thalmor have completely taken over and are ruling with an iron fist. Apparently they have discovered the secrets of dwemer time travel which has allowed them to alter the past in their favour. You tell him about your notebook. He suggests you make your way to the college to seek help. Which you do by stealth. When you get there the place is a total shambles. Guards and Mages are tied up with more Thalmor keeping watch. You sneek into the midden where you find the librarian Urag gro-Shrub. After a long discussion it turns out the only way to stop the Thalmor is to find the rest of the time travel device and use it to beat the Thalmor at their own game. The search for the remaining parts leads you on a massive adventure, around the whole of Tamriel actually discovering the Dwemer themselves. You need there help to destroy the Thalmor.
Something along those lines I would enjoy.
I try to keep expectations low in all aspects of my life but I expect to pour several hours into TES VI loving or hating it because I want to properly explore the new world, as I have done with Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Loved them all in their own way so I think this game will have plenty about it to love as well. If anything, at least Todd Howard seems to put most of his heart into TES games over all else.
I can only imagine how uphill it must feel at Bethesda-studios starting the work on ES6 when they just took such a beating over Starfield. Rough.
They should have spent the last 10 years working on TES VI instead of a new IP like Starfield. Sure, making Starfield helped them improve a lot of the systems that they had before like the faces/animations in dialogue, but the combat is absolutely awful and a step in the wrong direction over TES titles. Starfield is more akin to Fallout than anything and it seems as though Bethesda is focusing heavily on creating games similar to Fallout. Fallout is big, but the TES fanbase has taken the backseat while Fallout fans have gotten 2 new games and a third space-esque game similar to Fallout.
Bethesda has gotten good at making generic shooters with an on-rails story and gotten very bad at making true RPGs with great exploration and discovery. It's a bad sign for TES VI. Unless they can pull something out of their ass, there's nothing that will be salvageable with TES VI. I'm keeping my expectations extremely low and praying that the modding community can make it the game it was meant to be.
Improved graphics, sound and design will hopefully give modders the ability to finally take TES to the next level and do what Bethesda won't.
I honestly havent cared about ES6 since around time of Fallout 4 release.
Since Starfield? you gotta have rocks in your head to still be anticipating ES6.
and NO, its NOT "Skyrim in Space" it falls FAR short of that..
So many basic mechanics and functions missing that Skyrim had..
Infact they've been slowly nerfing the series since Oblivion..
Skyrim was the perfect balance between RPG fans and wider public, but Stafield is missing nearly everything older fans loved.
You could run across entire skyrim map
Going into a cave or fast travel load screens were a CHOICE.
No NPC routines
No swimming
and much much more, its FAR INFERIOR to Skyrim.
And YES, New Vegas should be the standard all games strive for with RPG's.
If you could mix some RPG elements of Morrowind with New Vegas together.... That would probably make the perfect Bethesda style RPG game.
Bring back spell crafting, levitation spells, spears, axes and blunt weapons skills, bring back the opposing factions like we had with Morag tong Vs dark brotherhood, mages guild Vs telvanni wizards, not just mainline ones like the civil war of Skyrim.
Then have the dialogue options of New Vegas with even more emphasis on character build choices, fame of character, NPC dispositions, the karma system etc etc. Plus the the creative world building of both NV and ES3 and you have a good basis for an incredible RPG.
But it NEEDS a modernized combat system and I feel like the overall looting system needs changes to it too. The enemy AI needs improvements too.
And a more reactive world, where you really feel like decisions matter and you can see things play differently depending on your choices.
I am not sure if Bethesda can pull it off. NV wasn't even theirs to begin with and Morrowind was a long time ago, they aren't the same studio anymore.
Playing nv modded to look better than fallout 4 rn bro this game is so fresking good
If you have Skyrim on PC (Steam). There is a free "game" called Enderal.
Technically it is a " Is Total Immersion Mode". But it really it is it's own stand alone game.
It has its own leveling mechanics, story, lore, big open world, and even new mechanics.
Best I can describe it is that it feels like playing Skyrim for the first time, not knowing what to expect with a story far deeper than Skyrim.
Which open worlds games have surpassed Skyrim? Because I've been looking have not found one.
The most insane part of not flying ships around is that it is possible and shown in game for NPCs to fly some where, with you wandering the ship between scenes no problem, and it just isn't a part of the normal game. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
I was so hyped when skyrim came out, oblivion with newer and more elibrate mechanics, the bartering and the diplomacy they will implement, imagine the sneak and theifery skills, more fleshed out classes and the magic system will be amazing
Then we got and action game where the battles had 4 dudes vs like 5 dudes and magic was just damage from blue or white spell
The simplified magic system was one of the biggest let downs for me with skyrim
@mikecurry6847 it was a travesty How dumbed down it was.
They even tried justifying it in Lore by saying that scholars just decided to change how spells were classified.
@@Bladezeromus Kind of makes sense considering the Oblivion crisis and the lore in Skyrim. Since the crisis, magic became less and less used and couldnt be trusted by alot of people. Nords hate magic and guess what Skyrim takes place in the home of the Nords
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No. No. That doesn't make sense. It would make sense if the world reacted to the in- universe events, but not the mechanics. It makes sense as a device to dumb the game down, but any critical look at it sees it as only that.
People have a higher distrust in magic now; yet the mages guild in Skyrim allows necromancy to be practiced out in the open and, in general, doesn't care about what your research is as long as you aren't hurting anyone. So all of the missing spells should still be available. Magic is magic because it's mysterious. The more obscure and hidden it is, the more powerful and special it should be. And it's the exact opposite in skyrim.
Similar arguments for weapon skills and types also apply to the world. Did people develop a new type of weapon that is neither sharp nor blunt? What happened to spears, javelins, tridents, etc? Did people also just stop using those gradually?
Fallout 4 and Starfield (didn't even bother trying that one out) convinced me that its over. Morrowind and Daggerfall were both better than Oblivion, which was better than Fallout 3, which was better than Skyrim... In every new game, they take away more freedom from the player and the world feels less alive. Also, calling Skyrim quests 'fleshed out' sounds weird to me. It's like people accept to go for less and less quality nowadays, just accepting the situation.. Baldur's Gate III has 'fleshed out' quests. I had more fun playing Gothik 3 (fanpatched) than any Bethesda game since Fallout 3.
I'm worried because starfield was said to be in development for 20 years. And I've seen indie studios make better games in months. I think it's still in development. And they want us to make their game better like usual. With mods and creation mode. So when the game officially has a price people will accept it because they are supposedly working on the game. Bethesda is if marketing schemes and tyrannical businessmen had a baby and named it Todd Howard.
I'm in the same boat. Skyrim has so much replay value, I'm still playing it today and I've probably easily sunk over 1000 hours into it over the years, probably 2000 or more tbh. But I have the feeling if I ever get bored of it, I may go back to Oblivion as I've only beaten it once and did a speed run sort of just to get the feel and to say I beat it.
If you ever get bored and want a good Skyrim mod, check out Enderal. It's more story driven and linear, but man was that a good experience.
Oblivion needs 1 cohesive mod to handle level scaling without adding a bunch of junk that nobody wants (maskars, oscuros). Im hoping the mod scene gets a bit of a resurgence like morrowind.
Bethesda half asses everything and then waits for modders to do their work for them. Dull boring and ugly are the Bethesda tent poles
They really do just make a foundation and let the modders build whatever house they want on it. They realize it to, which is why they're trying to profit off it with paid mods. Selling a broken product to your fans and making them pay for the privilege of fixing it, pure greed.
Also if you thought they were ugly before, just wait till tes6, I heard they were going photo realistic with it.
Well, the upside of this is, if it’s anything like starfield, it’ll be so forgettable, I won’t even remember it three months later.
I agree completely that Starfield killed my confidence in how good ESVI will be. IMO, Bethesda games have been getting slightly worse ever since Morrowind, with New Vegas being the exception. Skyrim was their last game that was GOTY material.
I feel the lesson from Baldurs gate 3 is that giving us companions that add weight to the setting would lift it in a lot of peoples perspective. Also they need to make the exploration/gameplay rewarding, they need to quit making magic/combat progressively more generic
Seriously? Baldur Gate III companions are dog shit. They either go from hating your guys or wanting to suck your dick. Look at Mass Effect companions and compare them to BG3 companions and it’s night and day over how paper thing BG3 writing actually is
What are you talking about? I love holding X to cast magic on brain dead AI while they stand dumbfounded attacking the knocked down body of my companion
Why do you people like baldur woke 3
@@user-up2cq5cx4z I liked the problem solving aspects of it and the silly scenarios that emerge as you play through the story, just like actual dnd. The story was reasonably good, you could entirely ignore any bits you didn't like
@@user-up2cq5cx4z As someone less of a fan of the wokeness in most games, BG3 is actually a really decent RPG. The only thing that sucks about it is the combat is very akin to MMOs with the action bar style combat system and the fact that you don't really "control" the attacks, you just hit the attack button and it does it for you. One of the reasons I love TES so much is because you are IN the combat, you are swinging your sword or casting a spell. In games like BG3, it's a good RPG, but the combat completely takes you out of the immersion imo.
BG3 can't really be blamed for the combat system though, since it is based on Dungeons and Dragons style combat and it's just my preference. I don't mind the combat in BG3 but I prefer more immersive combat like Elder Scrolls offers.
Where No Man Sky's team did the work necessary to upgrade their game, or when Bioware redone the ending of ME3 and add a DLC, Bethesda will not do that.
As you said, the same gameplay issues exist since their early games, many corrected by the modding community, but never implemented by Bethesda in their following games.
Retry Mass Effect Andromeda, better jetpack and gameplay. How did a QA team let that slip, brain dead NPC, switching weapons/powers feel dated or what about a cover system ?
The procedural generation is difficult ? Sim settlements do that better with settlements in FO4.
Who internally play Starfield more than two hours and thought that "exploring already colonized worlds, fetch ultra detailed garbages and rocks, walking running in empty spaces" was fun.
And the story and world building, it is blend, lazy and unimaginative.
The creation engine ? Give me a break, their are not the only company to have a proprietary engine ( Larian, CDRP, Ubisoft, EA ) and beside, they own ID Software.
That they don't want it is compatibility breaking upgrades between their games, they want an easy upgrade for Skyrim.
there was a vid (I don't remember the title) explaining how the Creation Engine specifically has tons of good features for a Bethesda-style game, but it seems like they didn't even use them all that much in Starfield
@@formbi correct. Bethesda is the kind of studio to use a wrench as a hammer. There are tons of indie games who do fantastic things with a very limited tool set, but they play to their strengths. Bethesda does the opposite.
Their games are known for being lovingly crafted with engaging story lines everywhere you find through organic exploration with a weak main quest. What did they do. Exploration doesn't exists anymore. The world is now procedural schlock filled with 5 types of outposts and 3 types of ruins. Now every quest is equally bad and the main focus of the game is on the main quest. Brilliant!
Skyrim is the only game I play , its more of a temporary escape than a game .
same, been playing vagabond modlist now, its more than a game to me
You've been... living in a dream world, Neo. You think it's 2011, the height of Bethesda's civilization. In reality, it's closer to 2023. We don't know who struck the first blow, but we do know it was Todd who scorched their reputation.
I’ve started playing Skyrim again because I couldn’t get the vibe with Starfield. And to be honest, I even liked TES IV Oblivion even more in some way, like the small gamemechanics (damaged weapons that could be repaired) that made the experience a little more engaging!
I unninstalled skyrim and installed starfield after a few weeks i did the opposite 😂
Yeah they dumbed Skyrim down even oblivion though i guess that was the right step for them, seeing how they got into the mainstream with that.
Yeah in many ways(mainly rpg elements), Skyrim is just dumbed down Obvlivion with better action, and Obvlivion even was just dumbed down Morrowind with better action.
Oblivion very good game, I play TES since Daggerfall when I 23 year old on first computer when I live in Chongquing in 90's and learn English from it and Morrowind help me learn more English when it came out few year later. Oblivion favorite game in series it very beautiful good soundtrack fun mission and dark brotherhood very well done. Oblivion always be my favorite game in series it so good and the side quest and explore hard to beat. I spend many day just pick direction on character and go see what I find. I download mod fix for levelled enemy limit armor and weapon to steel and increase stat by +5 character level and it make game more immersive. I also download mod to give +5 for a single skill gain to fix perfect levelling as I like go around and explore more than be perfect at gameplay and only get +1 bonus for it.
Oblivion very good game I give 10/10 Bethesda do good job on Oblivion. It my favorite I say. I try Skyrim but it a bit to much for retard person, very simple gameplay.
I never stopped playing Skyrim. 😂 Sooooo many mods it makes the game brand new again. I made a wood elf and grabbed faendal with the treehouse mods. We're keebler elves. Bake cookies n pies , kick butt n conquer more trees. if anybody in the cities is caught eating any pastry we didn't sell them it's not gonna end well for them.
Maybe someone else already stated this but I think SkyBlivion is our next savior. I hope I am wrong and that both games (ES6 & SkyBlivion) actually deliver something impressive. Still, I have this gnawing feeling that SkyBlivion is going to be the close to perfect nostalgia machine that will also have a great mod community to take it even further.
Definately ramped up for Skyblivion. Also looking forward to Beyond Skyrim, although I'll probably be able to play it with my grandkids when I'm retired.
There's always Morroblivion as well.
Skyblivion looks insane. I can't wait for it.
Theres no way microsoft actually lets it happen though. Like, real talk.
I really hope you are wrong. The gameplay and everything they have shown looks so amazing. @@Nekyo7788
Perhaps the real problem is that line that been repeatedly said in the video.. "people gonna buy it anyway"
you have games like Baldurs Gate, Dragons Dogma, and Crimson Desert setting the bar it's gonna be tough for Bethesda which has proven to be failing since Fallout 4.
I doubt it is gonna he a ground breaking, revolutionary game (like GTA VI is widely expected to be), but regardless it's still gonna be a great open world game and I'll probably enjoy playing it
No it won't
I'm assuming it'll be dead on arrival. It won't be anywhere close to as good as modded Skyrim.
People really hate it when you say that, but it's true.
Modded Skyrim is like a cheap hooker, it can be whatever you want it to be. But Tes6 won't have that at launch, it'll probably take years.
@@goatslayer3160my friend, there is no hope for ES6 anymore. At this point i call modded skyrim the es6 we never will get
"Having the choice to completely ignore the main storyline and fall deep into a world full of fleshed out quests, cities, and characters was unheard of until Skyrim"
Dude, that's EXACTLY what Oblivion is. You can leave the sewer after the tutorial and never take the amulet to Jauffre. You can do all the guild storylines, the Dark Brotherhood, the Arena, 15 Daedric Quests, Knights of the Nine, all the Shivering quests, and like 100 other miscellaneous quests. And character development, and leveling, and buying houses and horses, all without even STARTING the main questline.
Your videos are insane, thanks and keep up the good work!
Starfield isn’t a good game. They made technical improvements but their quality of output decreased. Their engine isn’t really capable of the sort of space-game they intended to make. Maybe they ran in a lot of technical issues.
I think they lost the oversight of where they want to go with the game. Looking at gameplay one can easily see the huge loads of detailed items and detailed outfits etc. Their art-team made a good job. However most of the items are junk that serves no purpose. They focused on the wrong parts of the game. The result is a capital that feels empty with NPCs that have worse AI than previously. Many quests are random fetch quests and not the quality stuff we‘re used to. The locations that can be found are copy pasted and the story forces the dragonborn experience on you, but in space. Also there aren’t cool temples or stuff. You make the same minigame for those powers over and over again. They have an oxygen bar, so at one time it probably had many survival mechanics. They obviously cut that out. They didn’t know what they wanted. Creating a fun game is hard, especially with a new IP that hasn’t established an identity.
I hope that they have better and creative ideas for TES6. Pls Bethesda, don’t make us the chosen one from the get-go.
I agree with a lot of this. I think they are a bit too caught up in their own way that they aren’t experimenting the same way they used to. I’d love if ES6 didn’t have a chosen one feature as well, imagine being able to tell your own characters story from the very beginning. I doubt it, but it would be pretty cool to have a bit of that freedom again
I dunno. I don't like all the art design. And I loathe the clutter, both in terms of design and density. But there are mods for that I guess.
One thing I’ll add is I beg to differ on the art team doing a good job. I think the aesthetic of the game is extremely ugly. NASA punk is not interesting at all. They should’ve done a science fiction fantasy setting.
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That’s fair to say. I usually don’t like science-fiction besides the original Startrek. 😅
I don’t really know what that sort should look like.
With that said, I think the details were quite good. For example all the stuff on the space-suites and the interior of the spaceship. I think loads of detailed armor for TES6 is possible.
They never had any oversight to begin with. Bethesda do not maintain game design documents, which is mind boggling considering the kind of games they make. Why would you not want to keep everyone on the same page? Why would you not want to have a document to refer to?
Ah, as a boomer, my grievances with bethesda started with morrowind (a bit) and then oblivion, by this point i am completely immune, their products are not made for me anymore.
The only sad thing is what they did to the fallout series,.
1:00 The standard for RPG games did not get raised because of BG3, they got returned to their original standard because of BG3. Don't believe me? take a look at some of the old Bioware games, for the sake of fantasy games lets compare BG3 with dragon age origins. These 2 games are strikingly similar, They both have a very well written story that motivates the player to reach the end, they both have a cast of interesting characters that the player can feel empathy for, or simp over(you know who you are). The player can make major decisions in order the achieve their goal, and both are heavily focused on tactics instead of skill. Dragon age origins was released 14 years ago, so for 14 years RPGs have slowly been reduced in quality and BG3 is a return to that quality.
I am worried for es6, but I have to entirely disagree on why. IMO the reason I didn’t like starfield as much is because they deviated from the Bethesda formula too much. If es6 was just like Skyrim but bigger, improved mechanics and more roleplaying options, then I’d be very happy.
The Elder Scrolls 6 : Redguard.. again
if BGS wants a success with ES6 they can not hold back any punches and HAVE to deliver on something worth playing. At this point, with a complete lac of design document and poor writing skills of the people left, I don't feel that they have the ability to pull it off. I hope I'm wrong, but considering how BGS games have been in decline in story length and quality, I personally have no hype for any BGS games anymore. here is a little breakdown of just quantity of quests for the mages guilds from previous titles.
Morrowind Mages Guild: 33 quests
Oblivion Mages Guild: 21 quests
Skyrim Collage of Winterhold: 9 quests
Elder Scrolls 6: hello Arch Mage
still my most anticipated game ever, but i am a little nervous
Is it worth a new console? Did cyberpunk ever live up to the hype? As a casual gamer who doesn't play much, I don't know which console to go for next. Open world my favorite for sure, although I can still get down with fortnite lol
From the bottom of my heart I hate to tell you, genuinely, but it’s going to be average, likely a 7/10 😢
It’s a do or die type situation. But knowing how childish BGS is this doesn’t look good
@@nodescriptionavailable3842 Console? Those days are over. PC Master Race.
Genuinely, don't waste money on a console unless there are specific do ordinary exclusives for you. Otherwise, I highly suggest looking into veiling your own PC. A well thought out build will last you a couple of console generations at least AND give you access to so many more games.
Something I didn't see you talk about, and most people don't like to, is that Skyrim itself felt like a betrayal to those of us that grew up playing Morrowind and Oblivion. I was a diehard fan of those games, and I was 15 when Skyrim came out. I had been following every slight hint of a detail about it, buying any GameInformer that even mentioned it, snipping screenshots from those magazines and making collages of what I hoped the game would be, and maybe most importantly, I'm a MASSIVE fan of the Norse theme in medieval media. And then it came out and it was.... Just pretty good. Sure, if you'd had no experience with the games that came before it might've seemed like a flawless experience, but for every step up and innovation that game brought, it seemed to take 2 steps back in other ways. Magic was gutted, ESPECIALLY with the removal of spell crafting, there were no arenas despite Todd stating in an interview once that there would be one in every city, the RPG elements of the game were toned to the very minimum to appeal to a wider audience, athletics and acrobatics were simply gone removing the bat shit insane speed builds from back in the day, most of the quest lines were simply not great with the Dark Brotherhood being the biggest step down from Oblivion, WAY too many NPC's marked as essential removing much of the freedom from Oblivion and especially Morrowind, and most of the color pallette was dull and muted in keeping with that early 2010's infamous style in gaming. This is a small list of the countless gripes I have. Skyrim will always hold a special place in my heart, I love it truly, don't get me wrong, but not in the way I love TES III and IV. All of that being said, I'm more than willing to give VI its fair shot.
I remember people complaing about Bethesda as far back as Fallout 3 and Oblivion. And they were basically saying the same things that are being said about Bethesda now. The fans of Fallout 3 and Oblivion were the ones defending them. Now they are making the same complaints all these years later. Same thing with Bioware fans.
just starting the video who on earth is hyped for es6? everyone i have ever heard talk about it has their expectations set lower than challenger deep.
I just started playing Morrowind this week, and oh boy is the statement at 0:30 just completely wrong. Us zoomers need to go back in time quite a while.
Man, starfield put some big question marks around ES6. But honestly, I think we saw this comming. skyrim was good, but it was still a bit of a downgrade from oblivion as an rpg, just like oblivion was a downgrade from Morrowind as an rpg. Every ES game after daggerfall has been slowly eroding player freedom and gameplay, but skyrim still had that ES magic to it, it changed how things work, but it wasnt bad, it was something Bethesda could build on.
But it seems bethesda locked itself out of any creativity now. Bethesda is neither revolutionizing anything, nor is it doing the fromsoftware thing of iterating and improving on their previous stuff. Its like bethesda now is just continously remaking skyrim in different ways and settings and stuff feels stale as hell.
Its so baffling this is the same company that once came up wirh daggerfall and morrowing, which were truly revolutionary games for their times.
Same company, different creators
I'm hoping the unpopularity of Starfield would open Bethesda's eyes to upgrade their tech. Their recent games feels ... old. Not just the graphics, but the whole feel of it. There's a diff between old school and outdated, and Bethesda as of right now is the latter. It looks cheap compared to the likes of Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 which both are triple A, Starfield looks like double A at best.
Does no one remember how Skyrim was criticized for being wide as an ocean but shallow as a puddle? It seems like too many people think Skyrim somehow changed the landscape of gaming when it literally did nothing new at the time. TE6 will be no different. Wait, scratch that, it'll be WORSE-especially since Bethesda doesn't care about design documents anymore and their writers couldn't write themselves out of a wet paper bag with a machete.
I will say that everything you said after 7:38 is basically what people were warning BGS needed to do leading up to the release of Starfield, and it's funny to me that we're right back where we started and giving them another pass. I remember someone remarking that BGS games have, since Morrowind at least, always been janky and mediocre, and we give them way too much slack. For Bethesda to make ES6 as good as it should be, they would have to completely overhaul their engine, but they've confirmed that it will still be on CE2. I think BGS kind of just fell off and I don't believe that we're headed for anything but more disappointment.
"There was once a dream that was The Elder Scrolls VI. You could only whisper it: all of Tamriel as an open world, a completely blank slate character, the ultimate conclusion to the Fourth Age... the perfect fantasy experience. Anything more than a whisper, though, and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."
-Marcus Aurelius Septim VII
@5:10 honestly that's on you. they literally said before the game launched that this wasn't a thing. hopefully you learned and you mean it when u said if it wasn't shown i won't believe it.
but honestly that's not enough sometimes either...
Im glad someone said it. Starfield is good but not great. Skyrim earned its title of being great, for the time skyrim was innovative and goated. For the time starfield is just another good game to play. I have enjoyed starfield for the most part but its just not a great game its a good game.
Awesome vid but my only correction would be that Skyrim wasn't all the initiative. It just slightly improved in some areas from Morrowind and Oblivion (other was was a step back) but good vid either way
Oblivion was superior in almost every way, some say Morrowind was even better than Oblivion
Oblivion was definately not superior to Skyrim across the board. Vanilla Oblivion's leveling and loot system was a joke. It basically wrecked the game and killed immersion. Its UI (especially the inventory lists) also sucked ass. Oblivion became a gem only through mods adressing the leveling system and the UI. Lore-wise, it was better, and so was the voice acting imo. Also, it had a good dose of humour which I feel Skyrim lacks (Imperial City guards, anyone?). Morrowind was raw, ruthless. No map indicators, no quest compass. In my opinion, Morrowind was the best, but that may just be nostalgia.
You do know morrowind took more shit out from Daggerfall then Oblivion and Skyrim did together.
@@SixToughoblivion had superior quests and npcs. The world, dungeons, weapon and armor design, environmental storytelling, scaling, in skyrim were all vast improvements. Morrowind is objectively better than both, but oblivion and skyrim are much closer in terms of quality than people will admit.
@@aaronlaughter6471morrowind and daggerfall have very different design philosophies. It's silly to compare them.
I'm excited but deep down I know I'm gonna be disappointed. Morrowind is my favorite game of all time. Bethesda must look to the past to create a game for the future.
I’m going in with no expectations, I just want to be in this universe more, I love the elder scrolls universe no matter how buggy or bad the game may be
How many loading screens will the elder scrolls 6 have?
Space sounds really cool as a video game setting, until you realize most of space is empty. It's actually kind of hard to do good.
yeah, maybe that's why you don't play out in the empty dark, dead, vacuum of space but on planets and space battles
Just imagine if Ridley Scott had used this excuse? Aliens could just have been a movie about Space Truckers trucking through space and it's empty and nothing happens...but they weren't bored.
Or maybe the writers of at least a dozen space games where there is plenty to do...
"Space is empty" is a lazy excuse by lazy writers.
Nah, just think about the limitless amount of incredible Sci-Fi content that has already been made. And as a videogame, you don't even need to try to reinvent the wheel, you can just straight steal from amazing properties in other mediums, which is exactly what Starfield tried to do, but in order to meet their ESG scorecards and create the most politically correct inoffensive game possible they were limited to the lamest content-
Space doesn't need to be done on a massive scale with lots of emptiness in between points of interest.
@@somethingbrite8484okay but comparing movies and video games does not make sense
I would have bought TES6 as soon as I was able. But no, now ill be waiting tell reviews and even watch lets plays before I give Bethesda a dime.
I think game pass is partially to blame for Starfield sucking ass it's a game that seemingly is made to waste time on purpose and fluff player time... but I think paradoxically it might save TE6. Few people bought Starfield, most played on gamepass and I'd wager the vast majority abandoned it now never to touch it again. Internally it will be viewed as a huge failure in the long run.
@@gamble777888 This is an extremely good point. I sure hope Bethesda or Xbox learned something from this.
@@NickGuelker I think it'll be clear to them that Starfield wasn't good enough and that they need to make a better game. Not confident they can actually do it though. Hopefully.
have waited for what feels like a life time for the next ES/FO and although i still hope that ES6 and FO5 will be great games, i will wait for several " before you buy " videos and reviews before i actually consider getting them
Agreed. The anticipation and hype for this game is borderline going to eclipse the actual product delivery. Also what may effect it is its delivery and how it plays. Also what may effect it is paid dlc,s that is supposed to be part of the main story.
I can't say I'm excited for it, but I do have some hope for it, for one, they're going back to a world they know well, it'll be a single hand crafted map again. So there is some hope.
Skyrim with mods just IS elder scrolls 6. And Todd howard knows that his creativity will never match 2011 Bethesda + 12 years of mods from people that are more passionate about Skyrim than Bethesda will ever be again.
Bethesda was always the best at making interesting places to find in the wilderness' of the Wastes and Tamriel, I just hope they go back to doing that
I just want my New Vegas remake. Still to this day the best RPG in history.
Damn. You nailed it with your video. Nice job. 👍 As for ES6... I don't know. Bethesda had been such a disappointment, I just don't know if I am going to rush out and pre-order like titles in the past. Honestly, I might wait a good month after release just to see what others have found out, see if it's worth it right out of the gate, or something to wait on. Starfield crushed my hopes and dreams with Bethesda.
Oblivion was in many ways a step back from Morrowind and Skyrim was in some ways a step back from Oblivion.
There was some refinement, but other than adding voice-acting (which reduced thoughtful and plentiful dialogue), everything since Morrowind has been a watering down or removing of most content.
What Skyrim did right was have an open world that was worth walking around in.
I remember exiting the starting dungeon and saying to myself, whelp, that should be the last of the main quest I'll be doing...and taking a left away from where I was supposed to go, and then finding a dog who was willing to be my companion a couple of minutes later. Magic.
I think we're all worried at this stage. Sadly if there's any hope for ES6 it'll be about 2 years after release when Modders get their hands on it.
That ship sailed long ago. If you ever find a book in TES 6, it will be written by ChatGPT. And nope, Starfield is not Skyrim in space, it's Dogshit 76 in space. Maybe it's even worse. I wouldn't taste Dogshit 76 or Shitfield because I have standards, but at this point, I'm sure I would have more fun in West Virginia.
It really is upsetting knowing we could have had something like mass effect in an open world environment. Im just glad I do not preorder games
I think an apt way to summarize Bethesda's evolutions is this:
Before Starfield: "Oh god, I hope it's not just Sykrim in space."
After Starfield: "Oh god, I WISH it was just Skyrim in space."
I’ll stick to the Skyrim we all know and love. That cannot betray