RIVAL RFX GUERRERO VS PHENOM XRT-220 BAG GLOVE HEAD TO HEAD TITLE MATCH
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*** in the video I am referring to D3o when talking about Rivals excellent knuckle padding
Not 3Do as I accidentally said🤦🏻♂️
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My problem with Rival (and I am a Rival fan; I have three pairs of their gloves, and also their speedbag and swivel for my home gym) is their quality control. My RB1 and RB5 bag gloves are great, but my RS4's, speedbag and swivel have their problems. I can't help but wonder if their quality would improve if they moved manufacturing home to Canada.
I don't know any brand in the world and not only for boxing, who makes 100% strike for quality, ch...t can happen everywhere unfortunately, we're human
100% agree with this. I could have written this comment haha. It's also strange that Rival UK customers pay a premium versus the US and Canada stores (based on exchange rates) despite the fact that the gloves are manufactured in Pakistan...which is several thousand miles closer to the UK...
A company that is as big as Rival shouldn't be hit & miss on quality control. Just shows that now they are established they don't care. I've never owned a pair of Rival gloves & never will. The guy at the top is a proper narcissist control freak & only likes you if you're licking the crack of his ass. Stay well clear of Rival, there's far better gloves in the same price bracket in Fly, Winning, Cleyto Reyes etc 👍🏻
@@shropsiberian Do you spend your time commenting on Rival related posts to tell people how the guy at the top is a narcissist??? Have you met Russ Anber? Who are you to pass judgment like this?
@@chrisr1415 I think it has to do with Rival’s “break of bulk point”. Just because it’s manufactured in Pakistan doesn’t mean that’s where it’s shipped from for direct to consumer (D2C).
If it goes from Pakistan and is sent to a warehouse back in Canada, then it has to get shipped back across the Atlantic to get to the UK. Then Rival is subject to the carrier’s shipping/freight cost of the likes of DHL/UPS to get it to the UK.
Not sure what kind of export tariffs there would be because I think Canada and UK have pretty favorable trade agreements.
But if Rival doesn’t have a European warehouse for shipping, then it probably means market doesn’t warrant it yet. It would mean they would have to split their inventory and potentially have less for their North American market. Less supply would mean increased price for the North American market for the same set of gloves. Or they could outright manufacture more gloves, but this goes back to “is there enough demand” to just make more gloves outright to store solely in Europe.
It’s a delicate dance for sure lol.
Looks like I won’t be waiting on the rivals anymore 🇦🇺
Excellent review as always mate!
You going to do thoughts review on Callum smith?
Thankyou
Both great gloves
Callum is a very good fighter but Canelo is A great fighter
He’s just so strong as he moves up the divisions
I'm a XL with the Rival Rb11 , would either of these gloves in their largest version have the same size hand pocket or are they much tighter?
The l/XL version is to replicate a 10oz fight glove so yes with hand wraps would be a little snugger
Hahaha love the edits amazing review as always might be switching to phenom
🤣 I’m always trying to bring something different, I think it worked 👊🏼👍🏼
I have the rivals and it held up very well! Quick question, how did you get the thumb with the name on it? I am trying to find a place to put my name on these gloves
They were special editions the thumb came like that
I want to give you and everyone an update on my experience with Rival RFX Guerrero bag gloves. I bought them, the thumb lining on one of the gloves jammed early and thus my fingers didn't reach the end of the glove, impact was more on the base of my fingers instead of the knuckles. It also meant the surface was at an angle as opposed to 90 degrees to a straight forearm and wrist. The other glove fit perfectly.
I HAD TO PAY to ship to return them. I got a replacement. SAME PROBLEM. Rival won't accept shipping cost for faulty gloves unless the fault is so obvious externally. If it's an improper fit, they won't accept fault for it.
I HAD TO PAY to ship them back and just got a refund. Will likely bite the bullet for a winning. Not worth messing around with these substandard gloves at such prices.
did you get 8 or 10oz? Height and Weight? Did they atleast feel good in other areas?
@@jaysboxingchannel6233 10oz. *IF* you're lucky enough to get a good fit then it's a good glove. I was hesitant as I read some other bad reviews on the fit with Rival, and my gut was right. I bought hoping they'd be good so I'd save $150 skipping the winning, but ended up losing $30-40 in shipping. Your hands are precious. Go with winning.
out of these 2, which one has better feedback/pop when you hit the bag? thanks.
Round 11 performance 10-10
Very similar performance
I use the RFX Guerrero bag gloves and I just love them. To me, these gloves are close to perfection. I am not a fan of Phenom. Their gloves are a pale copy of Rival gloves, actually. Rival has always been creative and way ahead regarding innovation. I trust them 100%.
The Rival guerrero gloves are fantastic and that’s why they have been champion for so long
I have highlighted many times Rivals innovation
I scored this contest round by round and at the end tallied up the score and winner announced
I don’t have a preconceived winner or score when I do these head to heads
And a narrow victory for the phenom doesn’t mean I think any less of the rival glove
The lomachenko limited edition guerrero glove at £179.99 was practically unbeatable in my eyes
But a loma ‘colours’ £209.99 glove that some have stated build quality issues
Narrowly loses
@@Fit2Box I understand your belief in Rival as a brand, but it is clear that you are using Rival's status as a world class and internationally recognized brand, to raise the awareness of Phenom. They have copied the entire conception and design and while you give credit to Rival for its innovation, you do not admonish Phenom for their copycat philosphy.
So really, what is your endgame here? It is clear that you are trying hard to promote Phenom. Your bias is showing clearly. You can try to justify it anyway you want. But i have my own eyes and ears, and its obvious.
@@marie-eve.albert the quality of phenom is very good
I am not paid by any brands I do this to help people
I have been a massive supporter of rival and still am
Phenom quality and attention to detail is very similar to rival so obviously if I like one I will like the other
Is it my place to admonish a brand
I clearly call out that with this glove it is rivals knuckle
I simply point out the differences which you cannot see simply from a picture
@@marie-eve.albert have u even tried phenom gloves?
Do you have the sf-f or hdf
So it's either going to be these phenom gloves or those super bad glove 100s the gray ones
Hi. What about Phenom sb 150?
I got ahold of rival cause the stitching on mine were horrible and rival informed me that due to the high demand of the gloves they just shipped them out with out quality control. They told me that I could return them but they didn't have anymore in the color way and size that I wanted so I felt obligated to keep them cause I was waiting so long for the second batch to come out they still perform well its just on the top of the glove that looks funky where they have there logo 😔
That’s not great
So it was not only me who got defect gloves, they should take care the quality after they increase the price.
@@endy7933 Tbf it is unusual for Rival qua and durability is normally very high
@@Fit2Box yes, i have 5 other rival gloves and they are all amazing like you said. They have many good gloves in their collections. Maybe just not good one with this batch.
I love those Rival Gloves but they've been out of stock for mths in the 10z. Looking forward to getting to the gym but not getting carried away could be a few mths
Yes great gloves
Hence why they sell out
Yes it’s a very frustrating time for boxers hopefully we can come out of this soon
@@Fit2Box cheers, I'll keep an eye out on the website. Merry Christmas. By the way, you should do a video about your views on the big fights you can see happening in 2021
@@chuck275 merry Christmas 🎄 🙌🏼
Been a big fan of rival me and my lad both wear them now i have the blue and yellow and my lad has the green pair. My boxing trainer bought the phenom about 6 month ago to try somthing new and within around 2 month has gone back to the rival. The knuckle pad actually split the lether and didnt seem to hold the natrul curve so kinda concaved inwards which lead to the spit.
What model phenom?
Funny video as usual. I've got the new Rival's and there are a couple of areas for improvement but I think it's a bit unfair that Phenom rip off the design and get the nod. Where's the originality?
I totally get that I really do
that’s why I was at pains in the video to give credit to rival for being the original
But I score these head to heads round by round and then go with the result
I don’t have a pre conceived score and winner and engineer the match up to suit
I think the lomachenko limited edition bag gloves at £179.99 were basically unbeatable
But a loma generic colours (no actual lomachenko link) at £209.99 with a batch of them that viewers/ other youtubers said were not as well made
Led to the surprise victory for phenom
My channel is full of great Rival reviews and I even did an innovators and copiers video where I highlighted Rival as a very innovative brand
If Rival has the relevant patent in place Re the knuckle then they can enforce that with to stop copying of their designs
@@Fit2Box I do completely understand. Perhaps Rival do have a patent but Phenom are clearly talented so it's a pity they couldn't come up with a different take. I posted a reply to someone else here that there are areas where Rival let themselves down so maybe some direct competition (and listening to fans/customers) will make them double their efforts. Cue the Rocky III montage!
Are the rivals durable or do they break apart after abit?
I would say rival are a durable brand have been for years
@@Fit2Box I use the green ones for a year now and they’re still doing great. Can even wear them without bandages. Wrist system is perfect. Best gloves I’ve ever had. No sparring though.
Rival Rb10 vs the Rival Guerrero?
So I'm thinking I may end up becoming a phenom guy
Its D-3-O
What did I say? 3Do 🤦🏻♂️
I had so much to get in
My mistake🤣
No worries. 😄 Your videos have helped a lot. Thankyou. Keep up 👊👊
@@shahiboxing I can’t believe I’ve done that🤦🏻♂️
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straight copy of the Rival glove and you have have them Winning? WOW
Yes Visually the knuckle looks the same
But it isn’t D3o
It’s a D3o competitor and double the thickness 6mm not 3mm of the rival
So it’s not a Straight copy
I did acknowledge in the video that the knuckle lump was done by Rival first
And have done videos acknowledging Rivals innovation and signature features
Leaving viewers in no doubt what Rival did first
Obviously rounds are subjective
As I scored it - that was the result at the end of the 12 rounds
Some of the rounds will be more important or less important than others
So people will choose whether they would not buy ‘on principle’
Or whether the phenom glove is more suitable for them
The rival gloves are a bit flash for some people
I did also acknowledge the differences in the Velcro systems and price
Close contest and as with all the head to heads the result is only my opinion the videos hopefully show enough for the viewer to pick what’s best FOR THEM👍🏼
And what? If they've improved on an innovation, doubled up on the thickness of the padding & all round made a better bag glove, then as salty as you may be about how they look, that happens in all types of products. Get over it, it's a better glove...... just
The fall down here is the price & it lost it on value for money.
Upping the price by £30 when you've just lost Lomachenko is a backwards business move. If they had gone for £160 then they would've come out better.
So greed lost them the title. Phenom make a better version of their own design for less. Salty Rival fans are just pissing in the wind 🤣🤣🤣
@@shropsiberian Improved on the innovation by thicker padding.... Are you serious?? You think that is improving the innovation? You think the padding makes them innovators? Many other major brands have made it to the top WITHOUT stealing other brand innovations. My simple point was that a copy cat should not receive credit.
@@jerrylombardi6695 lmao if the gloves better its better, doesnt matter who did it first
@@jerrylombardi6695 It’s not a copy cat in anything but visual aesthetic. And the Rival gloves look stupid, by the way. All of them.