The Tragic Irony of Aventurine | Honkai Star Rail
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- So the HSR 2.1 story quest / trailblaze mission was genuinely incredible! I adore Penacony, and exploring Aventurine’s character just made me adore the Penacony story that much more. So much so, that I decided to make this Aventurine video essay on the topic of the tragic irony of his luck. I’m so excited for the HSR 2.2 update, and I hope we’ll see more Aventurine in the future.
Anyways, I hope you enjoy this Aventurine video for the Penacony Trailblaze Mission from Honkai Star Rail’s 2.1 update!
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“Teasing the King” by Nathan Moore
“Final Girl” by Jeremy Blake
=== Timestamps ===
00:00 Video essay
06:16 Shoutouts
06:32 Bonus thoughts
08:22 Outro
#honkaistarrail #aventurine #honkai - Hry
"Your luck is other's failure" he is the embodiment of this phrase
thats the devils luck, the name of the trailblaze quest is very fitting, the devil in velvet is a detective novel about a man doing a deed with the devil and being thorn beetwen the love of two women and learning to accept that you can only one had one thing but lose the other, aventurine embodies well that story with his devils luck, he has the best luck ever but the rest will had only the worst luck, he can only had one thing and the other never
@@user-ku8yi5to4f The devil in velvet refers to Gallagher though
This reminds me of a yearbook quote I saw in a compilation: "It's not enough that I should succeed - others should fail" -Kevin Chang
It's interesting to juxtapose Aventurine's luck with the Nihility, because nihilism also speaks against the idea that "things happen for a reason." One can try to find meaning and reason behind surviving a tragedy, but what reason and meaning can possibly justify the tragedy in the first place. One is left asking, "Why me?" And a nihilist would answer, "No reason. Just luck."
Put in an analogy, lets say aven was a genshin player. he'd be the type that gets 6 limited 5 stars back to back in a single ten pull, but he is actually going for a standard banner 5 star character. His massive luck prevents him from being unable to get a specific standard banner character that he wants, causing him to wait for 3+ yrs... perhaps forever. And he started genshin only bc he wanted that standard character. He is chasing after something so easy yet so hard to obtain, all because of his massive luck that others desire.
(btw this analogy is VERY surface level, I just wanted a "lighthearted" analogy for him)
Aventurine just wants his Qiqi, dammit!
This analogy is like that one Diluc simp account on Twitter that only got Diluc after playing for 3.5+ years
I think the getting 5 stars more easily than 4 stars analogy works better
"lucky but also unlucky" just like Aventurine's fans right now... We were eating so well with his content and got hit with "aight, this is the last time you will see this fella for a longgg time, bye"😭
What? We likely see him next patch since he just went to the final goal of the Penacony arc.
It's already shown that Firefly has a way to get there and come back. Likely take the TB there because of the script.
@@RexZShadowbut it was different no? Wasn't he going to the black hole (ix)? Even archeron wasn't sure about what was going to happen with him, and at this point she already knew the firefly thing
Acheron says that he won his gamble and gain a ticket the other side, the real penacony the land of exile.
Also When Aventurine ask if he is dead she specifically said this is merely a fleeting dream under the watchful eye of IX. Soon he will awaken and head toward where he is meant to go.
The one thing Acheron isn't sure of is if he can make it back or not, that's his next gamble.
Not me. Im pulling him.
hes literally Nagito, the most unlucky lucky guy ever, the nah i win incarnate, he wishes to had the luck of the master chief, because his luck is akin to divine providence but aventurine is the devils luck, the best luck for you, the worst for all the rest
reminds me of this quote by zuko from atla: “My father says she was born lucky; he says I was lucky to be born.”
From Belobog to Xianzhou, and now Penacony, every area contains a number of tragedies and sad stories. The game IS truly named after Honkai😢
Nah xianzhou chose to be immortal now they have to face the consequences of their choices
@@mashuchan7906 The high cloud quintet
@@the1oneyeetus415 ???
@@mashuchan7906 That's the tragedy of the Xianzhou
Loved the video and your playthrough.
Yee, I think also a nice through line for Aventurine in 2.1 is the idea of rebirth. He is born on the Kakava, the day Gaiathra Triclops reincarnates. His Cornerstone prayer mentions rebirth. The most pivotal points in his life feature rain, in conjunction with Acheron's comments on what rain means, to erase, hide, or wash away, it almost works as a baptism, to wash and be born again. How Aventurine in 2.1 ends parallels his mother when he is born: His mother prays, questioning why her son has been born into world that he cannot live in, only to find her answer with coming rain. Aventurine is also questioning why he was born, why he gets to live, while death takes everyone else from him. Again, Acheron brings the rain and helps him find the purpose he needs.
I think part of the reason Aventurine followed the Path of Preservation is because it is a path that is very good at giving meaning to pain and sacrifice. All that he went through, everything his loved ones and people did to keep him alive, they mean something, they are important in the view of the Preservation, which I think is something he really needed.
Great video, its nice to see someone approach the character with some maturity rather than just repeating the same 3 "zest" or "rizz" memes. Hoyo clearly put alot of effort into developing him and really focused on telling a story that feels incredibly mature, and in a way, very real, and I have alot of respect for them for that. The fact that they managed to accomplish so much in a single patch is really impressive.
Personally, I hope Aventurine actually gets to fade out of the story for now, having served his "purpose" for the Penacony arc to an extent, and that in the meantime he can go and find his own purpose in life in the background, somewhere in the universe. I hope one day, perhaps a year from now or even two or more, we will randomly stumble across Aventurine during our travels. He could have a different outfit, something much more normal and pedestrian, have made friends of his own or even started a family, managed to fit in with a community and would have found something to live for now that he is truly free for the first time in his life.
That'd be my ideal ending for him atleast. I'm not sure if his "luck" thing is still present or if it perhaps changed after his "death", but man, the boy really, really deserves a happy ending of some kind.
Thank you so much! He definitely is a zesty man lol but there's so much more to him, and I loved the way they wrote his story.
Honestly, Aventurine having some time to go on his own, off screen journey sounds most correct from a story-telling standpoint, so totally fair. I just can't help wanting more of him, but I think most likely we won't see him for a while. Totally agree that he very much deserves happiness, and I hope he finds it ♥
Him being zesty is just icing on the cake💅
I've been seeing a lot of mixed things on the meaning of him 'having a nice body' in the chinese translation. I don't know a lick of chinese myself, but a common consensus seems to be that they mean people are willing to bet on him in the arena because he's attractive, despite being scrawny. It definitely feels like the darker implications are there though.
I've always loved the cocky gambler archetype, so Aventurine was a hit for me from the beginning, but they really fleshed him out in a way that I loved so much more than I expected. I especially like his relationship with Ratio, the 'doctor's advice' note definitely had me tearing up a bit, before I devolved into full on sobbing as he said goodbye to his past self.
That channel member list is getting pretty long, happy to see it growing!
Yeah, it's hard to fully understand the nuance of how something is said in a certain language when you don't speak that language, so I can't really say for sure, but even in English it feels pretty creepy and violating and dehumanizing. I'm also not sure how heavily HSR can imply something like that, so ultimately that line is up for interpretation, but just given the context of him being an "attractive" slave, coupled with the way the slave master tells him, "You look good," I'd be inclined to believe he endured some pretty unsavory stuff... or perhaps he killed them all before anything like that could happen. We do know he killed the slave master, so I guess I'd like to hope that kill prevented anything from happening.
Also, same lol Aventurine is my bread and butter for character archetypes, and yes! They did a wonderful job writing his story. I also enjoy his banter with Ratio hehe I hope we see more of them both in the future.
And thank you hehe the dino nuggies are multiplying
@@himetsukichabout hoyo going that route with his character, in genshin, they did it with lynette, it's explicit that she was kidnapped as a child for *those* purposes..
I'm not saying it's canon for aventurine, but it could be the case :(( I hate it here
@@himetsukich I am a Chinese, in CN, this sentence means that you have a very beautiful face, I feel that it is similar to the meaning of EN, but of course, it may also imply some shady things, Generally speaking, I still think Chinese is meaner than English. like your video very much, hope to see your reaction to Aventurine Trailer
@@falconmckenzee Thank you so much for clarifying! This is good to know :) I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I will definitely react to Aventurine's trailer once it comes out hehe
@@falconmckenzeeit likely just mean that he's cute and people like pretty young men therefore, likely betting on him. However, it also implies that the "master" is probably going to use his attractiveness in the same way how he music industry treats their idols/child stars.
My favorite definition of luck is "Where persistence meets opportunity" which I think is pretty accurate for Aventurine and why he ended following Preservation instead of Nihility or Elation which were both opportunities that seemed to lay before him at certain points in his life. Despite him facing quite a large number of hardships he always chose to endure, which can be quite the hard choice when facing seemingly insurmountable odds.
To be clear I don't really "like" many of the Penacony characters, but I do find them intriguing which in general is a sign of good character writing. Quite looking forward to how this narrative resolves.
I swear to god they took inspiration from Nagito from Danganronpa, but I'm not complaining. If the wheel isn't broke don't fix it. Both are amazingly written characters.
In Genshin Impact, Bennett has shown that he can find good luck in bad luck.
In Honkai Star Rail, Aventurine perfectly proved that the other way is also a thing
And oh my god I love both of these characters
Star Rail really built Aventurine as a villain in 2.0 only to make him the most conflicted and sympathetic character in 2.1. I think Aventurine definitely suffers from survivor's guilt, that's why he's always so willing to bet his own life. Also believe that, from his perspective, he definitely feels unlucky but can't ever say that, because otherwise all the suffering his people went through would hold no meaning at all.
There is also an irony to his luck in that it only benefits him if he thinks for himself. Selfish luck basically. But despite losing so much in his life, he keeps thinking selflessly, that things will work out for other people and the issue is, the luck doesnt work because he doesnt believe it’ll benefit himself which is where the luck stems from.
I guess a better example would be you can only get a 100% on a test if you wholeheartedly believe you’ll fail it. He doesnt believe any of his plans will work out for himself but they always work out. He always wants his close ones safe and that doesnt work out because he believes it wont. Imagine having to lose hope on something for the best outcome. How does a selfless person do that?
Aventurine’s character summarized in one phrase: “mission failed successfully.”
Something thing I noticed that may be worth bringing up is the Dream Journal. In the segment recapping the boss fight, if you say his motives were wanting to die the following paragraph mentioned how Adventurine "murdered his family with his own two hands"
I think that it implies the murder happened indirectly because of his luck that could not be shared.
This was a great analysis of our zesty gambler (Qingque is still the OG).
Aventurine was the real star of 2.1, both his character arc and NA voice (Camden) delivered so much (i still can't believe Aventurine was Camden's first major role.)
On 2.0, Aventurine was just placing his chips for the bet, so it was hard to connect with him (everybody being sus in penacony didn't help either). I didn't hate him, sure he was a prick and played the antagonist role, but Shaoji never leaves it plain and simple. Most, if not all of the characters written by him on HI3rd had complex depht, the flamechasers argueably are the best ones to date. Having said that, 2.1 delivered on all fronts, i can't wait for 2.2.
Thank you! He really was such a standout of 2.1! Agree that Camden did a great job. The voice really suits Aventurine IMO.
The story did a great job of laying the foundation in 2.0 for Aventurine to really shine in 2.1 :)
I like how he is a gambler who win but gains nothing. To him,'all or nothing' is the same,if he wins the bet, he gets all the chips but he don't actually get what he wants aka 'his family' but if he finally lose,He will lost everything and die but he finally get to reunion with his family.Ironic he always wins so his luck is a curse that keep him from getting to finally see his family.
and people still say “Aventurine doesn’t have the best character development in the game” or “furina is better” “aventurine is meh” 💀💀
Both. Both are good.
@@IisLasagnaexactly
as aventurine said, it’s all or nothing !
@@IisLasagna yes. don’t say “one is better”
Why only choose one? Choose both
As someone who’s favourite character in gi and hsr are actually furina and aventurine it was always a win for me
I just want to point out that aventurine’s mission title in cn translates to ‘a dance at the slaughter house’ which is the title of a novel about sex trafficking which kind of makes me believe those implications more….it’s sad
I was an aventurine hater but I do admit the quest made me like him a lot, probably my favorite male character next to welt and blade. I love to see this new video style too, it’s always cool seeing you take on new forms of content. I could listen to you ramble on anything though. Penacony has been amazing and the best story hsr wrote so far. It makes me curious how far in advance they write the story. Also sorry I don’t have the time to comment as much as I wish I could but the videos are always great. You’re doing wonderful
Ayyye, I'm glad you've seen the light and are now an Aventurine lover and thank you! I like making video essays on topics that really interest me. I just don't make them super often because they take wayyyyy longer than a normal reaction or playthrough video haha
Also, no worries at all! There's no pressure to comment. Thank you so much for the encouragement
Honestly, the most ironic thing about his Luck and his character as a whole is that he care. He care about the people around him, he was lucky to be born in loving family and learned kindness but that is also his "flaw".
I can totally see the fanfics that are gonna appear after watching this. Aventurine adopting the I'm-so-annoying-you'd-be-better-off-staying-away-from-me attitude so that nobody beside him gets influenced by his "luck", pushing people who's trying to love him away...so much survival's guilt
Aventurine reminds me on the song "Go Down Gamblin'" by Blood, Sweat and Tears.
"Down in a crap game I've been losing at roulette
Cards are bound to break me but I ain't busted yet
'Cause I've been called a natural lover by that lady over there
Honey, I'm just a natural gambler but I try to do my share"
I think that Aventurine is both a good sign going forward and generally someone to be appreciated.
On one hand his writing is really well handled, mature and layered, so much so to the point that as some pointed out, white night is about Aventurine, this is a huge step up above generally most of mihoyos writing in my opinion, I'd go as far as to say, so far, he's the best written hsr character and a lot better than anyone in genshin, honestly I'd even go as far as to compare him to Otto (though I still think Otto is a bit better, though I'm biased because Regression).
Aside from that, I feel like a person really should take a moment to appreciate him, for all the gambler jokes etc, his behaviours, motivations, personality, so much of it makes perfect sense. Even as his future put it, for all the flamboyance, the straight aces, royal flush (idk the terms), he's clutching his chips below the table, for all his luck and playing it off, he is afraid constantly, even what he said during his cut scene "You always have to hide your ace with a straight face" fits him so well, he always hides his fears, his pain with the cocky full of himself gambler who knows he'll win, whenever he does win he questions himself more, is this really his blessing? The luck to be the last survivor of his race, to survive when his family didn't, to kill all those other people after being bought, does he want it? Does he deserve it? Hell is it even a blessing at all? I hate how much people are oversimplifying him when he's so well written
Another thing that makes me so sad about Aventurine is the fact that he really wants to befriend people, but absolutely no one trusts him. Everyone is just out here throwing slurs and insults at him, and he just keeps smiling. Like when Ratio insulted his schooling and his parents, only to be shocked to find out AVENTURINE HAD NEITHER!! And Aventurine just smiled and said he didn't take offense, but I imagine it did break his heart a lil to have that thrown back in his face. When he talks about playing the "role" of friend, it def comes off as the idea of friends being a hollow term to him. Reciprocal, transactional, and ultimately temporary. What I'm trying to say is: I CAN FIX HIM GUYS!!!
he is one of my favorite characters in the game, he reminds me of garou from opm, that after each lucky chance he gets with surviving comes more turmoil, to me his story made sense the start, he was told he was special, that he deserved it all, yet losses the people he loves, his free will, his dignity, and in that he only wants to tear down the reminders of who he is
i don’t play hsr since i don’t like turn based gameplay but oh my GODDDD if i DID, i know i’d be throwing away all my jades for this man 😭😭😭 like im already this insane about a character from a game i dont even play, i cant imagine the marbles i’d lose if i actually played hsr lmaooo. thank you for the video!!!! gosh he’s so well-written
I'm not gonna lie, i cried so much doing this mission, this is probably the most i have cried for a hyv character ever. He's so Kurapika coded which i love and it makes me so sad at the same time, I really wanna hug him, but since I can't, the only thing i can do is add him to my team so i will spend all my savings on him. May we all Aventurine wanters become Aventurine havers 💖
An important point to note is that in Friedrich Nietzsche's God is Dead, even though nihilism implies that life inherently has no meaning, Nietzsche ultimately concludes that nihilsm justifies one to pursue one's own sense of purpose. It's interesting that Adventurine came to the same standpoint by the end.
The thing is, Nietzsche is arguing _against_ nihilism. He wanted people to combat nihilism by way of creating meaning. He feared that the consequence of God being "dead" would lead to nihilism because he thought people would lose the basis of their moral beliefs and values. So he’s not arguing for nihilism; he’s arguing against it. He fears that nihilism is the outcome of God being “dead.” Nihilism justifies one to create meaning in that the consequence of nihilism is a good reason to create meaning for the sake of, well, combating nihilism… but that’s why I, respectfully, stand by what I said in this video and why I find it ironic that Aventurine finds purpose while standing in the embodiment of nihility. He is combating nihilism by choosing to find meaning, and an Emanator of Nihility is the driving force behind that.
Also, just for clarity's sake, there is no work entitled "God is Dead" by Nietzsche. This was a statement he made in another piece of his, "The Gay Science" (although it's likely more well known and popularized as a result of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra," another work of Nietzsche's).
@@himetsukich ty for the clarification, I stand corrected
Idk, this might be a long shot but Aventurine reminds me of MCU Loki at some point because of his flashiness. I just hope my guy Aventurine take the Nihility path and come out alive.
This whole video unironcially made me parallel Aventurine’s luck with Nagitos lucky from a different game 😭
Thanks for the video! I was not very interested in Aventurine and thought he was kind of a jerk at first but then fell in love with him after hearing his back story. So tragic but so good.
i just wanna hug him and try and heal his traumas yet because of his luck it probs wouldnt work out... ;m;
**_tries to hug Aventurine, but drops dead instead, thus further amplifying Aventurine's trauma_**
@@himetsukich omg you really responded!!! love your content and your comment made me cry lol
Hime light cone names are typically annouced with the update page so don't mind their names as spoilers! Just fyi :D
I’m seeing more and more channels covering lore and story explanations/analysis/theories ever since penacony and 2.0 and I am loving it. Discovering new content creators like you has been a fantastic breath of fresh air compared to the stream of drama/leak videos that are around.
Thank you for your content blessing my feed. Commenting to pay it forward. ❤
Penacony had so much hype and it has only surpassed that hype in 2.0 and 2.1. I really hope when we go back to lofu later this year it keeps going.
Great video on a great character! Honestly Aventurine has been so interesting to talk about, me and my friends that play HSR have the theory that he will follow the same path as Acheron he will seek out IX and face THEM down and come out an Emanator of The Nihility in a desperate bid to find an answer to the question and purpose Acheron left him
I like this kind of content
LETS GOOOOO TSUKI VIDEO ESSAY
We popped open the brain juice for this one
After finishing 2.1 story i had some alcohol just to drown my own sorrow 😭 as when they showed adventurine's boss fight in the livestream i thought we were going to fight him to win a bet for his cooperation or get key information from him, i didnt think they were going to throw his whole sad backstory and then basically fight to the death!
After the story he reminded me of a very famous lucky character from the danga rompa series komadea (i probaby spelt it wrong) as they way of thinking are complelty oppersites but thier luck is not. they also both used death the same way but different purposes
Glad I'm not alone in here. Also If there's some kind of komaeda character in HSR it'd be dope!
I mean ratio did the komaeda thing in his own story quest where he allowed phase flame to create problem in space station to boost logic and thinking in researchers. But that's merely a fraction of what Nagito would do.
@@jerryeljeremy7790 I agree with the dr.ratio with the flame problem however to me dr.ratio acts more like byakuya togami (the blond glasses rich kid) especially what togami did during the whole game 1 case 2 scenario, though dr.ratio did rescue them. Meanwhile nagito is just delusional but he is very calculated.
He lost it all when young. Now he strives to win it all and never lose again- Oh, the Irony.
It truly is a tragic irony 💔
Lore video? So cool!! Do more!!! Yes i used to dislike him in 2.0 because of his pompous and rude attitude to us and the Astral Express crew, the way he talks about “friends” like they’re his pawns…and I was one of those who laughed at him whenever he got roasted…
After 2.1, I kinda get why he became the way he is…even his bravado, callous risk taking and the way he speaks like his “master” with that all or nothing bs…was all the experience and learning he had picked up growing up and surviving…
However, beneath the facade of a cocky gambler, deep down he was still the little Kakavasha who won his sister’s necklace and wanted a happy family…
The more time passes the more I regret using my Guranteed on Acheron, but I'm still trying to Pull!!!!
To me the real question is not "is him really lucky?" it's "he is lucky but does said luck bring him happiness?" Hapiness being the key word here. He never really stood to me as someone genuinely happy.
someone need to make a video of how him and nagito are like the same, in terms of how their luck works and how their character are, being destined to be alone.
You said everything so well!! Amazing video 💛💛💛
This is a great video! And Aventurine is my fav character in HSR by FAR, they put in so much care and effort to flesh out his story!
I finally finished it today and youch this man just can't catch a break
Thank you,you put everything into words perfectly.
Hope we all Advy enjoyers will become Advy havers.
So my theory of him being a L.A twink who listens to Lana del Rey is correct then 💀
"I'm a sad girl, im a sad girl, im a saaaaad girl" -- Aventurine (2014)
bro got that nagito komaeda luck
Nice analysis as always from you! I gotta admit that I didn't fully understand what was going on in his story, but this is basically what I got from it anyway, him feeling like his luck is more of a curse than a blessing.
I normally wasn't going to pull for Aventurine but his story changed my mind.
That and he's a pretty good character gameplay wise.
Adventurine finding some form of meaning in nihility = Doctors of chaos, just my two cents
Bro i had teared up at the end i hope hes still alive
He will return
Also that money and selfish greed can’t buy happiness, in a way. Aventurine’s luck applying only to himself is the epitome of a selfish benefit imo
You now convinced me to not roll for Aventurine. He might not be a good sustain unit to be the only one to survive while the team dies.
II'm excited for 2.2
Small correction: Nihilist believe that there is no inherent meaning. Nihilist can and often do find meaning in things and a purpose at life but its one they chose for themselves. It is meaningful to each individual nihilist. Thats what i believe as a nihilist anyway.
Isn't this a description of Existentialism, though? Generally speaking, Nihilism posits that life has no meaning -- there is no truth, there is no purpose. Existentialism also posits that life is meaningless, but expresses the idea that individuals can (and should) find their own meaning in life.
This is what I have learned, at least. Of course, each school of thought has a lot of other elements to it, as well as several subdivisions, but generally speaking, this is what I have read about and learned, but maybe this is incorrect? 🤔
wait hold up tsuki making vid on a char bg?
I didn't think she had the brain cells for it tbh, but I guess she had a rare moment of clarity and knocked out this video essay 😏
well said
I too am afflicted with the curse of luck. It means horrible things like my mom being dead but you have to learn to see the good in it: i dont have to pay her medical bills or pay to put her in a nursing home
Missed opportunity to call it the "Dramatic Irony."
he probs has survivors guilt
Bros an utsuro kinnie
A child of luck.
Same time unlucky
At 2:06 - 2:44 it just started to sound like you were repeating stuff you have already said, to me
Can we say that the people who were quick to cancel sparkle to apologise and hate on the IPC instead beacause its the IPC who made Aventurine suffer for most of his life and Avebturine forever!
loreeeeeeeeeeeeee
Her s are so cute
someone give this to me as a background pls 2:31 / 9:55
Oh, hey, dat me lmao.
Aventurine was the best part, the rest was really boring
This charcter is every single thing amplified in such way I can only consider abhorrent.
They are a shell they exploited and were exploited by capitalism to such an end that every thing about them is nothing but a ploy.
An endless gamble for the stake of slightly better outcome at the risk of themselves. I knew this game would get darker even in the early story darker aspects are shown time and time again.
And it seems they to lost that gamble as so many tend to. Their entire backstory reads as nothing but an endless role of the dice won at horrific situations survived but little else.
Their is no such thing as luck in any capitalistic world but it definitely fails to excuse them for it either particularly noticeable as it's doubtful no one else survived from their.
Honestly, his life story is just a tool to sell him to the players. He maybe lucky but he is doomed from the very time he was born, and his bravado is just a façade of his fear and low self esteem. And who will want a previous slave in their party?
Not rolling for him, I'll roll for the space cowboy instead.
Ew... Boothill would hate your ass for saying shit like that
Suffering from success
"IT'S ALL OR NOTHINGG!!!"🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯🎲🎲🪙🪙🪙