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Komentáře • 209

  • @gabrielmattos572
    @gabrielmattos572 Před rokem +112

    I remember to see a chinese tournament with every card unbanned and Tear Ishizu manage to win everything VS all previous meta and broken cards

    • @pretends2know
      @pretends2know Před rokem +37

      They actually held a few more. Dragon Link took over because the OCG concession rules let Victory Dragon work.

    • @gabrielmattos572
      @gabrielmattos572 Před rokem +6

      @@pretends2know yep

    • @superzaza622
      @superzaza622 Před rokem +1

      I heard that they had ban kitkallos just so not everyone play tear

    • @BBGunRenegade
      @BBGunRenegade Před rokem +11

      Painful choice is especially fucking insane in tear in a no banlist tournament

    • @adamxue6096
      @adamxue6096 Před 9 měsíci

      @@superzaza622
      They did try that, but then realized it was kinda against the spirit of things and didn't continue with it
      The every card unbanned tourneys are really swingy, there was one where Kashtira won, Dragon Link won at least once as well, pretty sure Tears won the most and would almost always be the most played tho.
      Almost always there's like half if not more decks that would use Victory Dragon, except for very few decks that couldn't use, all decks that could sort of use it would have some variation where it used Victory Dragon.

  • @rmjones4507
    @rmjones4507 Před rokem +59

    I built SPYRALs in Master Duel and like when it gets going it's good but it has so many opportunities to get interrupted. Its main good counter is that full combo lets it get appointer onto the field to rip a board breaker from your opponents hand, but that requires you getting to your opponent's turn uninterrupted

    • @samu0l095
      @samu0l095 Před rokem +18

      Nha, spiral main weakness is the 3 years that you need to make his combo XD

    • @DrIMPRATICAL
      @DrIMPRATICAL Před rokem +13

      Spyral has a lot of weird tech you can slap into the deck and change it to fit the meta, there's not really a "best" Spyral list
      You can do EEV lines, Kali-Yuga turbo, you can do Synchro lines with Baronne/Savage Dragon/Hot Red
      The deck is genuinely one of the most flexible things I've ever played, it just takes a fucking age to combo off, and has a number of bricks you REALLY do not want to draw in your opener
      And it also gets hard fucked by Maxx C

    • @sdedy379
      @sdedy379 Před rokem +1

      Call me crazy but isn't main game plan of spyral just same as admancipator in that it abuse certain card that can plus every time and make "unbreakable board". It just link doesn't have easy early negate like synchro had.

    • @zacharyhampton9978
      @zacharyhampton9978 Před rokem +1

      @@sdedy379if links had easily accessible negates you’d be seeing alot of broken tech lol. The problem with SPYRAL is the reliance on normal to actually play SPYRAL. If you normal summon is disrupted or negated then you don’t search drone or use drone effect so you can use super agent and double helix. Master plan is broken because search is soft once per turn while field spell and monster search are hard once per turns. Danger works well because SPYRAL spell and traps are better in grave than on field unless under weird circumstances. The main deck boss monster is good but he’s no DPE. SPYRAL is a deck that’s just gotten worse because yugioh keeps making better decks. Even though they ban broken decks just to make more broken decks lol

    • @rmjones4507
      @rmjones4507 Před rokem

      @@sdedy379 ur right, the full combo can go into both Apollousa and Tri-Gate Wizard, it's just like not feasible to get either out before the fifth summon so Nibiru is always a risk

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak Před rokem +30

    OCG pepe would have shock master and azathot which busts things open a lot

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x Před rokem +19

    14:28 If Lithium2300's Cross Banlist Cup is anything to go by, Spyral is not stopped by Nibiru.

  • @Haiganon
    @Haiganon Před rokem +11

    Some important explanation that seems to be missing in OCG Spright is that they could search Maxx"C" by special summoning it with Gigantic and returning it to the hand by frogs. One of the best moves that deck could make.

    • @yamiryujin4982
      @yamiryujin4982 Před 9 měsíci

      also they have carrier to lock opponent, no garura, and max c can extend for spright. dark ruler no more can't save you from max c

  • @leoornstein3963
    @leoornstein3963 Před rokem +19

    You should make a tier list of decks with longevity (BA, Black Wing, Invoked, Dragon Link, …) on the scale of how strong they still are in the morden day at full power, or how long they have persisted.

    • @videofudge
      @videofudge Před rokem

      Great video idea tbf

    • @dylan9124
      @dylan9124 Před 8 měsíci

      Here 5 months later to add a bump to this comment. Such a good suggestion!

  • @christianflora2316
    @christianflora2316 Před rokem +48

    Spright on release in the TCG was definitely the best deck at the time. Tear really started to take the throne after DABL. The only cards the TCG was missing for Spright were Maxx C and Union Carrier

    • @DracoXdragon
      @DracoXdragon Před rokem +1

      Wasn't Halq also banned or was that after the deck came out

    • @christianflora2316
      @christianflora2316 Před rokem +15

      @@DracoXdragon Halq was banned on the banlist shortly after Spright released

    • @otterfire4712
      @otterfire4712 Před rokem +5

      I feel like a contributing factor to this is that Tearlament was still being optimized. People really started experimenting with fusion options and materials a while after Ishizu cards were printed. Somewhat similar to Spright optimization, though the ceiling for power output was still higher with Tearlament, their presence on the banlists are proof of this.

    • @christianflora2316
      @christianflora2316 Před rokem +4

      @otterfire4712 Kind of, but the first Tear deck to make a genuine splash in the TCG was Danger Tear with Curious. And that's only because Nibiru wasn't being played because of Spright. The support in DABL is what really helped them along, and Ishizu cards put them over the edge like everyone who kept up with the OCG expected

    • @DracoXdragon
      @DracoXdragon Před rokem

      @@christianflora2316 ok thanks for the clarifications

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 Před rokem +30

    1 - Tear , Zoo(You can play Zoo in Tear)
    2 - Rulers , Spiral , Spright (in that order, can be board broken easily, Ruler and Spiral have MUCH better endbords )
    3 - Chaos, Pepe , Nekroz (do floodgate or too slow, just play TCBOO instead)
    4 - Library (draw 5 do nuffing)
    5 - (Dad) got some milk
    If anything decks like full power Thunder Dragon whit Fairy Tail or Sky Striker whit 3 engage will be above multiple Teir 0 decks so this is not a perfect list.
    Decks like Ruler, Library and Spright were never Teir 0 in the TCG or Master Duel so their power is exaggerated.

    • @The_Lard
      @The_Lard Před rokem +3

      Full power thunder dragon is in master duel rn

    • @Darshe0
      @Darshe0 Před rokem +1

      Sky striker with 3 engage is too slow

    • @jacksonsherewil6985
      @jacksonsherewil6985 Před rokem +2

      Spright was tier 0 in OCG, cause you have halq, union carrier, and toad

    • @Darshe0
      @Darshe0 Před rokem +2

      @@jacksonsherewil6985 They just never gave Tear a real chance, just like how Swordsoul was never solved, Tear was equal if not better than spright with pote

    • @videofudge
      @videofudge Před rokem

      ​@@Darshe0swordsoul was never solved?

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x Před rokem +29

    _Edit: Nevermind, the Rulers don't depend on the elemental attributes._
    -Y'all are saying the Dragon Rulers would be busted with modern cards such as the Bystials but an attribute-reliant deck that already spans four of the six might actually be degraded by including the remaining two.-
    Elpy and Agarpain would do a lot more for the Rulers.

    • @bencrandall-malcolm8303
      @bencrandall-malcolm8303 Před rokem +7

      Dragon rulers only care about attributes for non-dragons, they work fine with light and dark attribute dragons
      In fact one of the decks people played the rulers in after they got hit a couple times was Hieratics, an archetype of Light attribute dragons

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před rokem +1

      @@bencrandall-malcolm8303 Oh, right.
      The Rulers don't provide targets for the Bystials, though, and I'm not sure you can amass enough material in your graveyard to actually benefit from all those easily summoned bodies.

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem +1

      Rulers dont mix well with the Dragon Link package. It is miles better to play Dragon Link in a No Banlist context.
      I love Rulers, my favorite deck of all time along Ishizu Tear (yes, I am sick person, don't @ me), but they wont do a lot. I have tried, believe me.

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před rokem

      @@sadrobot5501 Go figures. The graveyard setup to summon a lot of them without going minus is better spent with Chaos Dragons, correct?

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem +2

      @@xCorvus7x The problem is the setup for the Guardragons. Pure D Rulers would basically only have the chance to make one of them or maybe jump thorugh a lot of hops to make two... when Dragon Link does that with probably 1 Normal Summon. And mixing them doesn't solve the problem, bc a high density of Rulers hinders D Link consistency. Or if you SS a Ruler from deck with the babies or maybe 2, what do you make: Diablosis? (Since we are in no Banlisr) The Hieratic Link? And yeah, we have Tomahawk available in this scenario, but that's not Guardragon access, is just generic Links into a Masquerena with an Extra Link 2 or something like that. Not bad, but subpar to what Dragon Links do themselves.
      Better to get higher mileage for my cards with Tracer or the baby Chaos Dragons, while ensuring Guardragon access.

  • @airfryer4935
    @airfryer4935 Před rokem +39

    I always thought SPYRALS were strong, but every time I played against them, I always won; with my Weather Painters deck and managed to get rid of my floodgates; and I'm like “I-I thought you were stronger”.

    • @beegyoshi1685
      @beegyoshi1685 Před rokem +2

      if you go first against spyral it is not gonna be as good as it can be of course the deck is stronger but playing through floodgates in best of 1 is not really fair to ask of any deck If you ever went second against the deck you probably would realise the power of it. It is just every dumb unfair combo deck in a single package you either get handlooped for 5 or need to go against a savage baronne apollousa secret village and sleeper

    • @airfryer4935
      @airfryer4935 Před rokem +3

      @@beegyoshi1685 I agree with you that the floodgates are unfair and uncompetitive, but which deck doesn’t use floodgates; HERO uses Dark Law, Labyrnth sometimes uses Gozen or Rivalry or both, Branded uses Masquerade, and SPRYRAL uses Hidden Village, but isn’t a tier deck if they can manage to continue after an interruption or getting rid of at least one floodgate; of course, mine was using only Dimensional Barrier and Anti-Spell, but like I said they managed to destroy at least one of them. It’s a shame I didn’t save any of those replays, and I don’t mind if you don’t believe me or disagree with me; I’m just telling you my experience with them so far.

    • @beegyoshi1685
      @beegyoshi1685 Před rokem +2

      @@airfryer4935 d barrier just destroys any deck that requires a summoning type and if you cant link summon in spyral there really is not much you can do with the deck tear will lose to kashtira pretty easy for example when that comes out and already loses to shifter macro cosmos and stuff also tear for example doesn't play any floodgates because it is that strong without them. Also about the hidden village i talked about it could be any other field spell even perlereino for example tear spyral is a real deck weirdly enough

    • @kookou13
      @kookou13 Před rokem +1

      You're playing a best of 1. Best of 1s in yuguoh is extremely luck based. It gets more into the skillfull territory whenever the side deck comes into play. That's a best of 3 at minimum. Even less variance when it becomes a best of 5.

    • @ultimate_capper3643
      @ultimate_capper3643 Před rokem

      @@kookou13To be fair, ​​⁠can you really blame it all on luck when this guy said that they ALWAYS won vs SPYRALs? What are the chances of winning EVERY single match against a specific deck. If the guy is just THAT lucky, they should buy a lottery ticket.

  • @gaaraofthefunk265
    @gaaraofthefunk265 Před rokem +5

    Aaaaaah! Meta! My casual brain's most scary nemesis!

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak Před rokem +9

    Staples argument are a cope when referring to tear, tearlaments plays almost no staples lmao.

  • @samu0l095
    @samu0l095 Před rokem +12

    Some day we will have the top 10.
    Some day that will be soon seeing how konami is doing tings recently XD.

  • @marcomagana8329
    @marcomagana8329 Před rokem +12

    The TCG didn’t have a Tear format with Maxx C legal. This whole list actually should consider what Banlist we would going off of, and with older decks, if we are using pre-errata and even when priority worked different. Also, a lot of these decks could play Along each other. Imagine a Going second CED Tear deck where they can conceivably play on turn 0.

  • @kevinkirkwood8844
    @kevinkirkwood8844 Před rokem +7

    If we're giving PePa shock master then it might compete with the big boys at the top there......but then tear could also drop a shock master as well

    • @milesandrews6711
      @milesandrews6711 Před rokem +1

      Tear is not capable of consistently making shock master

    • @elina1271
      @elina1271 Před rokem

      @@milesandrews6711 with ishizu being not limited I think it can +snow

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem

      It could actually considering many Tear end boards ended on Time Theif Redoer. If Scheiren hits Rein or Snow, it was an instant rank 4.

    • @tcoren1
      @tcoren1 Před rokem

      @@Endershock1678hock master needs 3 materials to be made

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem

      @@tcoren1
      Either way it wasn't particular hard. Many Tear end boards I played against ended on Abyss Dweller and Redoer. Snow + Rein + Scheiren is the simplest route, but there are a few others.

  • @DigiTism
    @DigiTism Před rokem +2

    Can you make a video of decks that are almost/as powerful as tier zero decks but for whatever reason never reached the standard definition to be a tier zero deck.
    I feel like Kashtira is definitely a deck like that. Mindhacker warped the format of everyone running doubles of key cards in the extra deck and the deck also forced everyone to start main decking the Book Of cards.
    Also, TCG Spright. The amount of heated debates I’ve read over “it wasn’t actually tier zero because it was only in the meta for a little while before everyone jumped ship to Tear.”
    And some people also debate Spellbooks weren’t truly tier zero because Dragon Rulers stopped it.

  • @Otzkar
    @Otzkar Před rokem +6

    The best beast-warrior to search is probably fractal

  • @PipePlazaStudios
    @PipePlazaStudios Před rokem +7

    As a dragon link player, Dragon Rulers have aged horribly. In theory they can provide pretty good followup turn 3 onwards, but the deck isn't short on that at the moment (magnamhut and regained do that just fine) and beyond printing a few bodies in a very inefficient manner they don't actually do anything unique or useful.
    Redox and Tidal their unique effects in theory remain strong, but being tied to main deck monsters and requiring an appropriate discard of their matching attribute (Earth or Water) makes it very inconsistent within dragon decks specifically.
    Them not being Chaos Attribute also contradicts how we build dragon decks at the moment, the chaos babies and bystials mandate Light and Dark.
    I'm positive they'd achieve very little at 3, and if they did do anything I imagine it'd be Tidal in dedicated Water decks (dedicated earth decks already have vernusylphs)

    • @eonflutehza131
      @eonflutehza131 Před rokem +2

      Time has caught up to them id say

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem

      Yeah, you cant properly combine D Rulers and D Link, I agree with you.

  • @mario_veca
    @mario_veca Před rokem +1

    Not to say that it would change everything, but I think that dad deck having pre errata ccv and pre errata dark strike fighter has been overlooked

  • @sdedy379
    @sdedy379 Před rokem +3

    Mr Logs you should look some no banlist tournament from ocg where the top deck are tear, dragon link, zoo, kashtira, spyral, some ftk variant and other deck in that order. You absolutely could rank tier 0 with each other if your mindset is no banlist but if not then it's quite tricky and kinda unfair. So when you think of dragon ruler you don't think of them as full strategy but as cards dragon pile deck which is *extremely op* .

  • @michel0dy
    @michel0dy Před rokem +1

    You could say this is the
    Tear List

  • @crazygreek6341
    @crazygreek6341 Před rokem +5

    Now we need a tear 0 tournament - sounds like an MBT video

    • @kookou13
      @kookou13 Před rokem

      Watch lithium cross banlist tournament

  • @Asryal
    @Asryal Před 4 měsíci

    this is my first time watching duel logs not in full serious video mode and i gotta say, that laugh is so silly i love it

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 Před rokem +11

    I think Chaos Emperor Dragon should be a lot higher because destroying your opponent's entire hand is far more devastating than any Zoodiac or Spright board

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před rokem +2

      Is it, though?
      CED hits both players equally, so afterwards both of you will be relying on topdecks and whatever you have in your graveyard.

    • @Grieves0001
      @Grieves0001 Před 11 měsíci

      @@xCorvus7x not if your yata locked, which is what you did back then, reborn a witch or sangan summon CED, pop CED, search yata, summon yata attack

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@Grieves0001 Yeah, but you wouldn't want to try that versus Tear, for example.

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x Před rokem +7

    The list is good but would have been better, had you upped Tearlaments to S+ or SS instead of downgrading Dragon Rulers, CED, and Nekroz.

  • @Jyxero
    @Jyxero Před rokem +4

    5:08 Doesn't Tear have a searchable Canadia (Metanoise)? That would deal with Djhin lock

    • @zeo4481
      @zeo4481 Před rokem +1

      It does but no one played that card, it's too slow. Turn3 ain't a thing in Tear format

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 Před rokem +3

    I really think all the rulers should come back to at least 1. Preferably 3 for the worse ones like blaster and tempest. I’m so tired of generic “summon, then get a plus 1” cards being what every single deck in the game is built around except for fusion decks.

  • @god_lushen8128
    @god_lushen8128 Před rokem +1

    Definetly needed this, my friends always beat me and now that I have 7k gems imma spend em right

  • @CoDKnoedel
    @CoDKnoedel Před rokem +1

    "Tearlaments are like cockroaches" - couln`t agree more!

  • @megamanpwn3dmario
    @megamanpwn3dmario Před rokem +6

    i might have been best to see how hard the decks had to be nerfed/banned to compare them, instead of actual effects, since then obviously tear would be #1. or what % of total comp decks were made with the archetype at the time.

  • @nikolabogdanovicc
    @nikolabogdanovicc Před rokem +1

    Bro forgot adamancipators

  • @lamarlatimore7802
    @lamarlatimore7802 Před rokem

    Zoodiac Broadbull is scareclaw link, Barron De Flour , herald ,revolt and a Omni negat trap with no normal summon.
    This is off the “final” broadbull.
    You can also FTK with this or just go Zeus Brigade.

  • @zachbonebrake352
    @zachbonebrake352 Před 17 dny

    Being able to hijack your opponent's turn is possibly the worst thing that ever happened to yugioh.

  • @Mernom
    @Mernom Před 11 měsíci

    Imagine: full power spellbooks, but their field spell has the runic super quick spell effect.

  • @dandomen3584
    @dandomen3584 Před rokem +8

    Since Dragon Rulers & Spellbooks were never tier 0 because of being released same time & one preventing the other from becoming tier 0 , they shouldn't be on this list. Which makes the actual number of tier 0 decks in YuGiOh 8. Since Konami is on a roll on releasing tier 0 decks back to back lately though , we can expect the number to become 10 fairly recently

  • @elina1271
    @elina1271 Před rokem

    Though zoo+ the convinience of modern hand traps and modern board breakers seeing that Pure Zoo can start a board with 1 card is nuts they can play shifter crow and bystiels and they'd still be 100% consistent with broadbull and all the damn searchers

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 Před rokem +2

    I know they weren’t officially tier 0, but only cause they were both same time.
    What rank would you give Spell Books?

    • @Ddiaboloer
      @Ddiaboloer Před rokem +3

      Spell Book is in the video and is ranked dead last.

    • @mikeclark7026
      @mikeclark7026 Před rokem +2

      @@Ddiaboloer
      Wow.
      I didn’t think Spell Books was ever officially tier 0.
      Anyway, thank you.

    • @DarkSymphony777
      @DarkSymphony777 Před rokem +4

      @@mikeclark7026 spellbooks are an unofficial tier 0 due to being around at the same time as dragon rulers, the other unofficial tier 0, both decks were massively close to it but were keeping each other from reaching it (along with evilswarms being a anti-meta pick) so people like to put them up there as well because they would have easily made it if the other deck was not there.

  • @dragonmaster951753
    @dragonmaster951753 Před rokem +1

    Full power pendulum is just a ftk. They were doing that when master duel came out and they would do it again if they could. I'd put it in S tier cause they could consistently do it turn 1 through interruptions. Turn 2 might be harder but that depends on the board. Which they can otk often times. Maybe A tier at worse but going first they will just ftk every time.
    Dragon rulers at 3 would be pretty insane cause shuffling them in reaction does nothing cause they can banish the others for more extenders without the body being on the field. With the rank 7 pool, they'd be insane. A tier is fine.
    Spellbound needs a runick fountain and they'd be fine.
    All my input

    • @asafesseidonsapphire
      @asafesseidonsapphire Před rokem

      We have even more Pendulum support now, mainly the new Z-Arc support.

    • @dragonmaster951753
      @dragonmaster951753 Před rokem

      @asafesseidonsapphire1087 which is true though all of that is irrelevant if you have a consistent line to 8k damage uninterrupted. They only need options going 2nd cause going 1st, you need specific cards in hand otherwise you just lose turn 1 before your draw

    • @asafesseidonsapphire
      @asafesseidonsapphire Před rokem +1

      @@dragonmaster951753 I meant to say as in they have better starters, as now you can make Electrumyte without normal summoning, easily, there's also butler if you run some more performapal cards.
      And like with beyond now it's even more consistent, there's also Pendulum Evolution, which does a lot of things, like search Astrograph or the new starter or an Odd-Eyes copy.

    • @Inquisite1031
      @Inquisite1031 Před rokem +1

      Well he put tears in S sooo, yeah 😂 😂 unfortunate, that deck is at minimum 2 tiers above it's closest competitor.

    • @asafesseidonsapphire
      @asafesseidonsapphire Před rokem

      And there's also Exceed the Pendulum now, man Pendulums might have even easier access to their floodgates.
      Also know as Mystic Mine at home
      And Amorphage Sloth.
      Like your board probably doesn't have as many negates though.

  • @eonflutehza131
    @eonflutehza131 Před rokem +1

    What happened to the spider?
    Very great video tho😊

  • @Infinite8blue
    @Infinite8blue Před rokem

    I would put spyral above spright, spyral can break boards going second and going first they can stack thier opponents deck and have n information on what card thier opponents is playing. Field prevent targeting and not once per turn for activation

  • @mattrs1
    @mattrs1 Před rokem

    Interesting video. I'd love to see a part too in an unlimited format ( no banlis)

  • @slifer875
    @slifer875 Před rokem

    Funny how with CED we are not judging a deck or archetype, but the one OP fucker who started it all....

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 Před rokem

    Now a Tier 0 Decks tierlist for Duel Links decks

    • @vyrax401
      @vyrax401 Před rokem

      Any decent tcg deck, or deck that can abuse skill

  • @BB-hr9nn
    @BB-hr9nn Před rokem +1

    What about Kashtira, I know it won't beat tear but where would it be? I would say A tier.

    • @RNE1993
      @RNE1993 Před rokem +1

      They haven’t been a consistent Tier 0 presence, even at full power.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem +1

      They aren't Tier 0, and they would not be A tier even if they were. They suffered from having a hilariously fragile Endboard that died to Raigeki if you didn't full combo or a Nibiru if you got greedy and went for full lock. I've faced it with some decks from Nexus (because for some reason they let you fight banned decks), and they struggle against most tier 0 decks.

  • @drewbabe
    @drewbabe Před rokem

    im gonna be honest, pre-errata CED with pre-errata sangan and pre-errata witch and all the other cards that were legal back then would probably be tier 1 in a format with full power tear ishizu running around. but if painful choice, pot of greed, etc. were all illegal still, it wouldn't even be tiered. they might take some game 1s but never games 2 and 3, GY hate would completely break them

  • @gambitgambles
    @gambitgambles Před rokem +1

    Tearlaments should be S+ that deck was so broken that it is almost made a new card game.

  • @23jewfan
    @23jewfan Před rokem

    Garura made Tear a better deck in the TCG and trumped Spright. Being able to Super Poly their board was the nail in the coffin.

  • @vaporeonice3146
    @vaporeonice3146 Před rokem +1

    I feel like Chaos Emperor Dragon is…not a deck? Old school tier 0 Chaos is a bunch of cards that are garbage now, some DM staples, CED, and BLS (who is also kinda garbage now). And CED as a card is NOT what it once was. It’s WAY easier to negate (hi, Infinite Impermanence or just…any monster negate that modern decks make?), and even if the effect goes off, many decks can still play with all their cards in the graveyard. Pre-errata CED is a ridiculous card that would probably see play, but it’s not a tier 0 deck by itself when stacked up to all the other tier 0 decks. The only way you can think it is is if you look at how ahead of its time it was and then try to put it that far ahead of the modern metagame (say, by making it so that you can’t respond to the summon or the effect, and that your opponent can’t activate any graveyard effects until the end of the next turn after you use the effect).

    • @travisdinham6084
      @travisdinham6084 Před rokem

      Blud saying a deck wasn't Tear 0 because it has been powercrept 💀 Make it make sense

  • @zephyrrrr4813
    @zephyrrrr4813 Před rokem

    Zoo's whole thing was with 1 card they draw like 5 and set up an interruption. Imagine if they were drawing modern non engine also the whole deck is a one card zeus. Also lets not forget how many engines you could play in zoo.

  • @Hin1994
    @Hin1994 Před rokem

    I'm pretty sure blue eyes was top tier (during early pend era) just because of spirit dragon and locking out pend decks. Definitely topped events but I can't remember what.

  • @timsuu8991
    @timsuu8991 Před rokem +1

    Spellbooks should be at F tier at best. They suck sooo bad.
    Also im always roasting logs for spellbooks since after i watched a vid of his saying spellbooks were still good after judgement hit, i used what few free gems they gave you in duel links to make a spellbook deck and i lost every single match lmaooo
    I even tried again in md thankfully much cheaper to build since it's in a premade pack but it's still so baaaad with modern support

  • @gacielcaro5351
    @gacielcaro5351 Před rokem

    The answer is pen. Created the emergency ban list

  • @isoultanic6200
    @isoultanic6200 Před 23 dny

    You can't talk about tier 0 decks together without deciding the context. Are you basing it off current, is it based on tournament results, based on top cut percentage. Because of this the top tier 0 deck will be different

  • @khaledamura5941
    @khaledamura5941 Před rokem

    Really good tier list but probably the best Dragon Rulers deck nowadays is Bystial Dragonlink without any of the Dragon Rulers

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem

      Thus, it's Dragon Link deck, not a variant of Rulers

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 Před rokem +2

    How somebody had the foresight to ban Toadally before Sprights were even released, yet decided to release Tears at full power in Master Duel will never make sense to me. Until the Bystials came out and made everyone want to play Branded again, Exosister and Dinomorphia were the only decks I could play. Exosister can play under Dimension Fissure, banish a bunch of shit, and turn off the GY during the opponent's turn, while Dinomorphia can turn off monsters on the field and play Summon Limit, but they can both get bent over by Tear if Tear goes first.

    • @vyrax401
      @vyrax401 Před rokem +2

      Its depends on the player if you talking about master duel, at one DC cup im having a decent winrate playing normal plunder deck. But again its still rng heavy with all the ishizu mills

    • @RNE1993
      @RNE1993 Před rokem +2

      Do you play the TCG? Master Duel Tearlaments were never full power. They semi-limited each name and three of the Ishizus on release, while limiting the field spell and KitKallos. All of those were at 3 for months in the TCG.

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem

      Tear was never at Full Power in Master Duel.

  • @69Bloodstreaks
    @69Bloodstreaks Před rokem +3

    Pretty sure Dragon Rulers are definitely tier 0 strength l, but never actually hit tier 0 status because of the existence of spellbooks. In order to be tier 0 your deck needs to have at minimum 50% representation (depending who you ask) but in the case of dragon rulers, spellbooks took up the other half of what would be dragon rulers thus keeping them in tier 1

    • @dandomen3584
      @dandomen3584 Před rokem +6

      it is more than 50% to be considered tier 0. It is 65%

    • @69Bloodstreaks
      @69Bloodstreaks Před rokem

      @@dandomen3584 I agree, I just said 50% with the statement in parentheses because I have heard quite a few people say 50%, so just to cover my basis I set that as the bar and even so that doesn't negate the rest of the comment. The percentage wasn't really the main point

    • @vyrax401
      @vyrax401 Před rokem +1

      Jowgen and ophion floodgating them from become tier 0

  • @SolarityVision
    @SolarityVision Před rokem

    9:13 so basically just runick

  • @passtheyaoi
    @passtheyaoi Před rokem

    if you C.E.D. your opponent turn 1 and they're on tear you burn them for like 1500 and then they get to do full combo

  • @Order-Sol
    @Order-Sol Před rokem

    How the mighty had fallen.

  • @deadloz121cockatoos7
    @deadloz121cockatoos7 Před měsícem

    I been ftk by dragon ruler deck more often than any other deck engine… so for me it S

  • @orsdekany2594
    @orsdekany2594 Před rokem

    For Pepe. if its Mr3 with modern support, its tier -1, shitting out 5 materials for nothing is like the next best thing since sliced bread and it would catapult most pend decks to tier 1, so thats obviously a no go, but what if you unbann one of their support cards, Electrumite, i think it would be pretty fair, considering that was the card to solve the problem with mr4 with that, i think Plushy would be A tier, but i have to add, that i dont really know how strong electrumite is.

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem

      Even in MR3 context, Zoo eats PePe like nothing. And no, even though I love Lithium, his sub specials dont prove that PePe beats Zoo consistently. I have done/seen the matchup of full power 2017 Zoo vs 2015 MR3 OCG PePe (with Shock Master) and Zoo stomps PePe constantly.

  • @mugencoreni7130
    @mugencoreni7130 Před rokem

    You can't play tear when you have a ten zone lock with Ishisu

  • @alexandergeorgiev74
    @alexandergeorgiev74 Před rokem

    The genius tear 0 vtuber logs doing a tear list

  • @Zachpi
    @Zachpi Před rokem

    Spirals absolutely are not full power in MD, like they still have a lot of stuff banned/limited

  • @ZeroenHawk
    @ZeroenHawk Před rokem

    The only board breaker that even works on spright is dark ruler no more idk what your talking about as a spright player myself thats the only one besides evenly if we dont have carrot otherwise your wrong.

  • @steeveedragoon
    @steeveedragoon Před rokem

    First, does spright count? I guess maybe, but I don't think it was ever tier 0 in the TCG. Even funnier, it's first showing at a major event was terrible. It was feared so badly that people played counters specifically for it, and in addition people kept on playing into Nib.
    Here's a couple hot takes.
    Zoo shouldn't be in A, it should be somewhere lower. It's good, it certainly is, but I don't think that it stands any chance as a tier 0 strategy.
    Likely less of a hot take, nekroz in D. Djinn is crazy, but way too inconsistent. Pretty sure MBT brought it back for the masochist ban list tournaments, and it it never did anything.
    Drytron is the best way to play ritual by far, and I don't recall them ever pulling off the Djinn lock.

  • @titindiaz1233
    @titindiaz1233 Před rokem

    wouldnt nekroz be able to play meteonys drytron with cyber angels and some drytron engine?

  • @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers
    @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers Před rokem

    Just here to say I made two Tearlaments players surrender yesterday with Blue-Eyes Chaos Max. Felt great.

    • @golum247
      @golum247 Před rokem

      They are beatable. I've beaten them with zombies and DM.

    • @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers
      @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers Před rokem

      @@golum247 it just felt great beating the best deck in the game with good ol Blue-Eyes

    • @golum247
      @golum247 Před rokem

      @@Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers I know what you mean, taking a mid to low tier and winning against a tier 0 feels good and is hard to do so congrats on you win.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Před rokem +10

    Tear and spright annoy me so much to play against. Only way I have a chance is to floodgate and burn them while they figure out how to remove it.

    • @daedalus5253
      @daedalus5253 Před rokem

      Just draw the five exodias

    • @jaytoven7
      @jaytoven7 Před rokem +1

      “activate feather duster, summon reinoheart”

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool Před rokem +1

      @@jaytoven7 ra's servant

    • @jaytoven7
      @jaytoven7 Před rokem

      @@ivanbluecool dark hole

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool Před rokem +1

      @@jaytoven7 doubt any deck would think that far. Especially when my deck protects against destruction. It would only waste a resource giving me advantage

  • @vo1ce147
    @vo1ce147 Před rokem

    I think you overshoot something like pepe
    Pendulum is too broken like even without plush that deck can spit out like enough interruptions that drow your opponent.
    Now if in hypothetical world where pepe allow having electrumite and beyond it's became more deeper than we thought.
    Now there is one deck that actually need on the list and being tier zero in tcg but due too pandemic that deck get pull under the rug and that's is adamantcipator

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak Před rokem +1

    Nah full chaos dragon link annihilates spright

  • @butteryfriedwizard2219
    @butteryfriedwizard2219 Před rokem +4

    Shaddoll and artifacts...back when yugioh was fun.

  • @pokeystar101
    @pokeystar101 Před 9 měsíci

    Where is blue eyes?

  • @applesquadron
    @applesquadron Před rokem

    spellbook despair

  • @lalilulelo.n.stitch
    @lalilulelo.n.stitch Před rokem +1

    Tear List

  • @reyrogy1709
    @reyrogy1709 Před rokem

    Spright with halq combo + max c it’s the best in meta with ishizu tear sprig t stil better

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 Před rokem +1

    0:28 I would argue Tearlaments is still Tier A just because one single specific but blatantly obvious weakness they have: It can easily brick and HARD (because it sometimes depends on your luck)
    Even taking into account the ratios at full power, and all the stuff, you could easily start with 2 - 3 copies of "Tearlaments Scream", one other S/T you can't use at the moment (Sulliek and Cryme, which both need a Tearlaments on Field to even be usable, and in Cryme's case a discard of a monster too); and some of the Ishizu / "Exchange of Spirit" cards that can't actually do anything unless you send them from Hand or Deck to GY or your opponent does something. Or you need to wait until at least your opponent's turn to use (Gravekeeper's trap).
    Or worse. be left stuck with your garnets (hello Shaddoll Beast).
    Or alternatively, mill stuff that just hurts. Like milling your copies of ash blossom, or maxx c, or your one offs like harpie's feather duster or called by the grave or infinite impermanence. all without getting a single tearlaments. and even if it happens onlyonce, that can easily be game over
    And even stuff that could easily unbrick you like "Diviner of the Herald" or drawing 1 single "Tearlaments Reino-Heart", can be easily stopped with just 1 infinite impermanece or ash blossom or psy-frame gamma.

    • @jirachi4765
      @jirachi4765 Před rokem +3

      At full power you didn't need to play 2-3 scream - you could just play all the names at 3 and the ishizus and the traps and that's basically the deck. And remember that a shuffler plus a miller is combo, or keldo and another ishizu, or herald of the orange light plus a shuffler once your opponent activates a monster effect are all combo.

    • @zedsky2181
      @zedsky2181 Před rokem +2

      Bruh full power tear cant brick with 3 herald 3 perlerino and all 3 tear names with 3 ishizu. And all the sacky 1 of cards like instant fusion

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem

      You're doing something wrong if you're bricking often with Tear.

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 Před rokem

      @@Endershock1678 that's My luck and Skill for You. Managing to turn Hyper consistent tier Zero decks into brick fests

    • @Inquisite1031
      @Inquisite1031 Před rokem

      My guy thinks the pre-hit tearlaments he is playing on MD is full powered tears, oh u poor sweet summer child

  • @ugurkaslann
    @ugurkaslann Před rokem

    Rabidragon Beatdown dfinitely SS tier

  • @Princeinna5.0
    @Princeinna5.0 Před 4 měsíci

    I forever think zoo will be stronger then tear no one could change my mind Sub/zoo was ridiculous you literally had to pray going against that deck tear was strong but normally stop Kitt and sending to the graveyard wow I beat tear a few times I can’t recall a time where I beat zoo that deck made me hate yugioh

  • @travisdinham6084
    @travisdinham6084 Před rokem

    This list is bad because its comparing the deck's strength with each other which simply means the newest tear 0 decks will always be higher... instead it should have been comparing the decks in their era

  • @RedOfFlames
    @RedOfFlames Před rokem +1

    PePe will never be as powerful as it used to be entirely bc of modern pendulum rules stopping them from flooding the board every single turn

  • @lawrencewilson3862
    @lawrencewilson3862 Před rokem +2

    tearlaments was as fair as this game is ever going to get, because even with all these board breakers going first is just too much of an advantage in this game.

  • @LLF0
    @LLF0 Před rokem

    Dragon rulers are not even that good anymore. At best you would end with a slightly better version of modern dragon link decks.

  • @starbound100
    @starbound100 Před rokem

    The fact that between tear and everything else there is not at least one empty tier displeases me. I honestly cannot fathom how we will ever powercreep something like that.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem +2

      Tear was broken, but could lose if they miss their targets with their mills, which was rare, but could happen and did as some top cuts, and more common, lose downright to shifter.
      What would really power creep tear would be a deck that could play through most major hand traps and perform their combos turn 0 going second like Tear could.

    • @Inquisite1031
      @Inquisite1031 Před rokem

      ​​​@@Endershock1678 a vaccum sure shifter does something to tears, but in practice, u need a deck that can play shifter, and there are not a lot of those, and all of the decks in this video do not want to run shifter lol if u want to be optimal, and tears can still play thru it esp at full power,
      and in the context of this video, tears can mill as much as they want since they are not up against a mirror, tears missed mills in tournaments cause u don't mill as much in tear mirrors.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před rokem

      @@Inquisite1031
      I know they could. What I'm saying is the only deck that could power creep Tear is a Tear that could play through Shifter, so there is theoretically room to grow.

    • @Inquisite1031
      @Inquisite1031 Před rokem +1

      @@Endershock1678 I mean all u have to do is add a few text to the tearlaments GY effect "when sent to the graveyard or banished" there u go, also "cannot be put on the banlist"

  • @omegon2540
    @omegon2540 Před rokem

    Chaos becaue it created the ban list

  • @mugencoreni7130
    @mugencoreni7130 Před rokem

    What about Ishisu

  • @bv-im1fg
    @bv-im1fg Před rokem

    First yugi-vtuber?

  • @rocapbg9518
    @rocapbg9518 Před rokem +1

    Zoodiac is like C, they don't really do anything. Their endboard is Drident + a rank 4. It really isn't enough in todays game.

    • @zeo4481
      @zeo4481 Před rokem +1

      Woooh, that's an opinion indeed, we are talking about the 2nd best deck of all time buddy, whit Ratpier legal you have infinite material to go into any XYZ you can imagine. Just like how Tear has almost no ceiling for what Fusions it can summon, Zoo can be splashed in EVERY deck, and they would be because of how versatile they are.
      Only things like Floo and Monarch wouldn't play the full Zoo engine.

    • @rocapbg9518
      @rocapbg9518 Před rokem

      @@zeo4481 I'm not your buddy dumbass. There have been many tournaments with no banlists and mixed banlists and no one plays a zoo engine. The most people play is pure zoo with 3 ratpier and ton of staples but it never performs particularly well. The deck has been powercrept. Decks post POTE demolish Zoo and it's not even close.

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem

      The thing is.... all the techs. Thats the problem with Zoo. Since the engine has low requirement in deck spaces, you can run all the techs you want.

  • @akasual7884
    @akasual7884 Před rokem

    spermlog ooooof

  • @lamarlatimore7802
    @lamarlatimore7802 Před rokem

    Zoo>sprite

  • @costa9083
    @costa9083 Před rokem

    Lol I destroyed tirlements with mekk knitesbjesteday 😂😂😂😂

    • @sadrobot5501
      @sadrobot5501 Před rokem +1

      When the deck does that consistently across many tournaments, then we talk. Anecdotal evidence doesn't help.

  • @nathaniellee8999
    @nathaniellee8999 Před rokem

    Bording

  • @Babosa_cautelosa
    @Babosa_cautelosa Před rokem

    That’s not the spider we love and need 😢