Was I Wrong About Kai Havertz?
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2023
- Arsenal were the first team to prevent Brighton from scoring this season & Kai Havertz seems to be finding form too. Can he propel Arsenal to the league title this season?
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Pep wanted Havertz, Tuchel wanted Havertz, Ancelotti wanted Havertz, Arteta wanted Havertz. But two blokes on Talksport want me to believe he’s not a good footballer 😭😭😭
Rory yapping nonsense as usual
It's laughable isn't it!
Rory didnt rate Haaland. All you need to know about His Football Sense 😂
Yh do me a favour
@@void0350 I think he said haaland wouldn't go 2 digits😂😂
And bruh broke the record 😂😂😂
Hate Arsenal, but any time Rory Jennings asks, “was I wrong about…” the answer is always “Yes.”
I’m an Arsenal fan, and I agree with everything he says about Havertz. He’s not a good footballer and will flop at Arsenal
Edit: I understand Havertz is on a good run of form now. I pray it continues. But come back to me in the third quarter of the season and if he continues to do well until then, I’ll hold my hand up and admit I was wrong
@Foos3yOW but he literally isn't flopping though lol
😂😂😂
This is the same guy who say Haaland will flop and to fire Tuchel for Lampard..
Now he says he wants Mount to stay and Havertz to leave...
If he thinks Havertz will flop it bodes well😂😂
@@Foos3yOWyou are a hater of Kai, nothing to do with you been Arsenal supporter. You want him to fail because you don't want him as Arsenal just as many or us.
You think people hate on Havertz now. If he helps get Arsenal over the line and win the league or CL, they will go mad, and I'm here for it.
a big IF . 20 years with just Ifs and buts . Get the title already
@@abdullahahmadkhan4097in Sha Allah
@@abdullahahmadkhan4097 20 years of selling best players, recruting unknown talents and improving them and then selling them. Over and over again. It’s not the same again my guy. Have seen what type of players is Arsenal targeting and getting?
@@giorgitezelashvili7060 Lokonga , Vieira , Kiwior?
@@merlinbotha363Yes the latter two are good squad players. Lokonga was bought as a young prospect
Rory, just admit that Chelsea destroys players!
Chelsea and United have become talent graveyards
Then why do they have multiple European trophies and arsenal have 0 ever in their history?
Yeah they did destroy hazard...Mf don't talk if you don't know
@@ngxftblwow, 1 player 🤣🤣
when will they do tha again then.
chelski and utd did it by spending a fortune .chelski illegally with dirty oil money.
arsenal went a season unbeaten whos done that .
but live in the past its funny @@GenesisSN
He was great at Leverkusen and starting come great at Arsenal. The problem is clearly more at Chelsea than with Havertz.
And calling him an highlights or moments player is completely wrong. He works very hard off the ball now and is very important for the system at Arsenal.
He was working hard off the ball before though
@@omari1284 He is working harder now than before
@@omari1284 Yes, but he's now doing it with purpose and direction.
@@rrm1903 Yes, I agree 100%!
Spot on friend. He’s everything but highlights player. Smart movement, helps in any phase of the build, smart position, pass tempo sense, can we duels, can do everything in opposition half except things that only low centre of gravity players can do
I can't thank Rory enough for guaranteeing Havertz's success at Arsenal by endlessly telling everyone how shit he is
Kai just needed a supportive environment. Chelsea (even before Boley era) was toxic and a pressure cooker for immediate results.
It's funny how he keeps saying "Do you know how bad you ahve to be blah blah"'All i hear is "Do you know how shit a fanbase has to be to hate such a guy". Such a shit team
He also needed a coach that can get the best out of him.
I think it also speaks to Arteta's coaching to get the best out of him.
Facts 💯
Get real 😂😂 he was Chelsea's hero for a good year (at least) getting the UCL winning goal and club world cup winning goal but what followed in the 2 years following was abysmal! He got picked week in week out and stunk the gaff out.
He had purple patches at Chelsea just as he is now for arsenal but then went missing again for months, mark my words he's the same player he was at Chelsea.
Calling kai havertz a highlights player is the exact opposite of what he has been for arsenal, hes a big key to the system even when he doesnt score
Exactly, he’s got no clue what he’s talking about
kai is the definition of a highlights players, people moving as if he didnt have purple patches at chelsea, watch when he does nothing in the next 10 games
@@benjysho6290I think he’ll be considered absolutely integral to our system within three months time. He’ll outscore Xhaka comfortably imo.
@@benjysho6290 People who dont understand football, dont understand Havertz role in this Arsenal team. For an ex footballer to say hes a "highlights player" is ridiculous. Hes the exact opposite at Arsenal.
When Arsenal dont have the ball, his job is to defend, win duels and win the ball back which he has done very well and the stats back that up. This is the part of the job that people dont take note of because they want to see a "highlights player".
When Arsenal have the ball, his job is to be the 2nd striker, make late runs into the box, win headers, create space for other attackers. Hes not the creator or involved in build up play like a traditional LCM. Hes also tall enough for the GK to go long to to beat the opposition press. Arsenal didnt have this option against City and Brighton last year and suffered from it.
On paper hes an LCM but he isnt really, its a completely unique role specifically for him. Its actually very smart but people arent smart enough to pick up on it.
I’m an Arsenal fan and you’re wrong. He literally has been a highlights player
this is what happens when your judgment of a player is so surface level.
He’s doing so much for us
Arsenal have a plan for Kai and its starting to take shape. Kai will score more than Xhaka, thats the objective and he tracks, and wins possession, and is now scoring goals
Exactly what I’ve been saying. He will score more but already did perform well in terms of defense compared to Xhaka.
And is apparently the number 1 aerial duel winner for us so far this season
Arteta saw a great player in need of a re-molding. Dude is only 24. He's got loads of time to improve his game.
Footbaling outlets have his best position as:
Attacking Midfield
Other position:
Centre-Forward
Right Winger
He is a Left midfielder at Arsenal. He can play anything from midfield up.
His play without the ball is top level. He opens spaces, pulls defenders towards him and has a level of physical play that Arsenal lost with the exit of Xhaka. His stats are impressive and I can see him finishing the year with at minimum 15 goals and as many assists.
exactly - with rice in 6 and xinchenko we don't need a box to box on the left, we need well timed runs in to the box, plus target for Raya's long balls.
Yeah I think Rory was wrong about kai. The fact arsenal have put there arm around him and made him feel loved again is the main reason we seeing improvements he will get better
I mean havertz was struggling at the start of the season so he was right to an extent but now he’s gotten better
@@abdihassan2426everyone needs time to adjust
its very easy to play well when a team is constantly winning nothing special
It’s the system too… He’s been given an extremely unusual role by Arteta. He’s basically a no9 false 10
tbh i think it's more about the fact that he is now playing a role that fits his qualities (which he needed some months to get used to). But yes, of course the belief in him also has an influence.
The issue is that people only reduce players to goals/assists, when his #1 role at Arsenal (at least) is off the ball, winning duels, making the team around him better by his runs and physical presence.
The goals contributions are good but a bonus. Let's not forget that he's a versatile replacement for XHAKA & Granit only scored 8 goals in his superb last season.
Kai is already halfway there a few mere months after joining a wildly different club & play style.
Finally, 60-65m last Summer is the equivalent to 40-45m a Summer or 2 before as the price tags were utterly INSANE this past window. 🤷🏻♂️
THIS👏🏻
Would be so jokes if havertz wins them the ucl this season
The "U" In Arsenal stands for ucl glory
@@HeWhoKnows- Wow! That was super funny. I have never read something so funny before in my life! Have a nice day @HeWhoKnkws-.
@@Rin9pxg to think a European top club which is older than a century still has zero European glory that's gotta be even funnier.
Another goal in the final for him perhaps? What a story that would be!
The only way we will win the UCL is if Tomiyasu, Partey and Timber are in the first 11 because they make up our strongest team. Not zinchenko, white and Kai. I cannot see anyone beating us unless Raya or Ramsdale are not on point
The difference between Kai at Chelsea and Kai at Arsenal is that he’s not the main source of goals, he’s a cog in a system that works well. Him getting goals is great, but his role goes beyond that.
People simply dont understand how he plays. He runs so much always presse, wins the ball back, makes the smartest runs into the right spaces hes big, strong, tall you cant ask for much more.
People often forget about Artetas ability to get the best out of players. It even tracks back to when he was at City and people like Sterling and Jesus worked with him there to get the best from them. We saw it with Xhaka and im confident we are beginning to see it with Kai its just a matter of time
Just not true, Pepe instantly comes to mind.
@@JC-ul6cw if your attitude stinks, you get shipped out: Auba, Ozil, Pepe
@@MaximilianXXXexactly
@@MaximilianXXX...and guendouzi too
@@JC-ul6cw not an Arteta purchase and has he gone on to set the world alight elsewhere?
Rory, you had admitted before the season started that he’d be a beast under Arteta
As a mutual I do not think he’s technically amazing, I also don’t think he’s particularly bad. But he’s doing something right and I can’t put my finger on it but Jesus he’s winning points every week and u can’t complain lol
Arteta might be the best man manager. Time and time again he improves players and gets rid of players he cant stand
Kai brought in to replace Xhaka and is on track to better Xhakas GA already and nearing halfway through season. CFC was always about instant success under Abramovich look at them getting rid of Salah, KDB and others……
Remember guys…Kai Havertzs got over 100 career goals and he’s still 24 yrs old
Havertz is a 8 playing as a stricker at Arsenal whereas at Chelsea they played him as a out and out 9 without having a decent 10 behind him. Arsenal are growing and it looks like Havertz is a player that has taken a new role is trying to learn it and become great at it, what Arteta has done is weird but also genius, he has highlighted defeciencies in his players and is trying to use the teams strenghs in it's entirety, if he can figure out how to create a link between Martinelli and Havertz then Arsenal will definitely win the league and could possibly challenge for the champions league
Rory just proves the dislike some Chelsea fans have for Havertz. How is he cowardly when he rose up on the biggest occasion for your team?
Havertz has already played major roles in preventing 3 Arsenal capitulations (Brentford, Luton and Brighton).
Kai Havertz has made the 4th highest tackles for Arsenal this season & 3rd highest goal scorer
If Havertz ends the season with 15 Goals would you change your opinion
Good question
It took a long time and a lot of evidence for him to admit he was wrong about Haaland.
doesnt even need to be 15, if he gets anything above 10 he has done what he has needed to do, score goals from the midfield whilst also creating space with his movement and defensive abilities also
@@GoopGaming66 very good answer
From what ive seen of Kai he’s far from cowardly. During the Villa game he played till his last breath to get that disallowed goal, he breaks down the opposition, makes intelligent runs and tracks back very well. What about that is cowardly?
Against Newcastle as well that’s one of his most “warrior” performance 😂. Don’t know what Rory is talking about 😂
Havertz doesn't pass the eye test but he's actually been very good for Arsenal. Even before the international break.
He wins his duels, he crashes the box, he finds space.
Now he's started carrying the ball and scoring goals.
Your loss is our gain
IDK. Even if you dont count the goals, Kai Havertz has been having good games for Arsenal. His movement especially off the ball just makes our attack flow better with the space he creates. He’s been class for the last month or so after a slow start and has been pretty damn consistent. I think people just seem to forget about what a beast he was at Leverkusen cause of the nightmare he had at Chelsea. I mean… he’s not the first player they ruined and he wont be the last.
At Arsenal he has been fantastic in midfield. Look at his interceptions and his tackles. He has improved our defensive stats so much and he has scored a bunch of goals. He was bad at Chelsea because he was played in the wrong position, at arsenal as a central midfielder he has been amazing.
Nah Havertz belong to Arsenal playstyle especially under Mikel.
I think I speak on behalf of all of my fellow Arsenal fans all around the world when I say that we demand an apology video to Kai Havertz from you, Rory.
Kai is a different player under Mikel, he saw things we all didn't. Kai is miles better than Mount, there is no comparison at all. Chelsea was the wrong club for him. Mikel as usual, where serious money is spent is spot on.
Darren Ambrose disagrees with Mikel, hilarious!!! Anyone looking at Kai's performances objectively can see he is a superb player, he is a dual monster, brilliant at link play, and finds space others do not. He is ALREADY making a difference. Kai shrunk at Newcastle did he Rory.......muppet!!
He scored the winners against Brentford and Brighton, the crucial equaliser against Luton, an assist for our first win against City, oh and the opener in Lens game. ALL important points securing contributions.
Set aside the Kai bias and be objective. He is now being coached by someone who is a master at getting the best out of players and a team of superbly coached players . He has to continue with this, but so far a he has been a big plus for Arsenal. Sorry these are the facts!
Spot on
wow well put,,,
@@avico5973 thanks very much
Even tho the title says “Am I wrong” I’ve watched enough videos of Rory to know the video is about him not being wrong he never is according to him 🤣🤣 haven’t even watched the video yet
He’s been a key player for Arsenal for sure the last couple months. Involved in everything almost upfront
Who’s here after 5-0 Arsenal over Chelsea? Another brilliant Havertz display
I think you just misunderstood who he is as a player. He is back in a similar role he played at Leverkusen and he's starting to shine again, that's no surprise.
At Chelsea, he was being played as an out and out striker with basically no assistance on the wing for him during his time. There are very few strikers in the world that can handle that kind of burden, let alone someone who should not have been up there in the first place. Chelsea do this consistently with players, play players completely incorrectly
He already looks a completely different player to the guy he was at Chelsea. There was a reason Chelsea paid that money for Havertz in the first place, it's because he was 1 of the most highly rated youngsters in world football at the time. He wasn't average at leverkusen, and he's slowly starting to look like that player again.
And what happened to the manager that won that european cup that Havertz scored the winner?
Does a new manager that plays a different style and puts players in different roles, and then keeps changing it up because results aren't going their way... surely very few players could perform to their best under those circumstances.
Patience is not one of the values Chelsea are known for.
Havertz is sure looking good from what I am seeing! Seems to be getting a goal a game- well 4 goals in the last 5 games- and he works and tracks and does get himself into good positions.
I was waiting for a full video about this from Rory
Kai Havertz is a team player and he is a key member of the team, although expectations have been placed for him to be a Maradona which he is not, but he will contribute substantially in the overall team performance and that's key to the way Arsenal plays and the objectives that we are trying to achieve!
Kai is actually so important for Arsenal at the moment. He’s turned a corner.
Rory bro I really dig your vibe and outlook on the game but nah man, you wrong on this one! 😂
"Never has a man who knows so little about football gotten so far in a job related to football as Rory Jennings." ~ That's a quote.
he is a key player, if granit Xhaka, who gave us 7goals last season was a key player, kai is only 3goals away from 7and has played less games than Xhaka at this time last season. Just because Chelsea FC is a badly run club that damages players doesn't mean the player is not good enough or cannot become a key player in another team.
We do not expect him to score or assist in each game,works great off the ball and his confidence back he will get there we love him
You never saw Granit Xhaka being a key member of last seasons arsenal team, but Arteta created a role for him.
He is now doing the same for Kai Haverts. Lets see how he continues to perform, but if he can end the season with 12-15 goals in this new role, he justifies his move.
0 goals from here and a Prem would be fine too
@@merlinbotha363Of course but Kai’s main role is to score because we have a false 9 in Jesus who doesn’t score a lot. Extremely unlikely Arsenal win the league without Kai doing his main role
It’s not just goals tho, the last 5 weeks he’s been one of our best players
Difference is Kai is playing a very unique role at Arsenal which suits him a lot better.
He really improves a teams press which is so important to Arsenal. He pairs with Jesus really well as a sort of a false 9 and false 10 partnership.
This is the beginning of Rory changing his mind on Kai Havertz. No worries. Every season, Rory has a take that goes sideways on him and over the course of the season, he comes around and starts to support as a pundit rather than hate as a fan. It’s okay. It’s one of the reasons we like Rory, he admits his bias and when he’s wrong.
Barabatov’s attacking skills. Kante’s defensive skills. That’s Kai Havertz.
Berbatovs attackin skills🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Stick to cricket kid😂😂😂
He is a very key player for arsenal he scores when it's absolutely crusial
Imagine Havertz bagging 20+ goals this season 😂😂😂
Rory man your hatred for Havertz is clouding your judgement
Many players have had nightmares upon arriving at a big club and then gone into another one and become huge. Anyone remember watching Bergkamp at Inter Milan, Thierry Henry at Juventus?
Rory that was absolute waffle from you mate lol
love you rory you got me to watch British youtubers talking about football I am an arsenal fan for now a decade since I was in the beginning of the first grade love you from Israel
If you watch the game and not the ball being moved about you’ll see what Havertz is about, very intelligent player.
The biggest point missing here is he is playing as midfielder in Arsenal & at Chelsea he was a false no 9. If he scores 10 goals a season its fine at Arsenal but Chelsea he was expected to score more that 15 or 17 every season. And based on what i have seen from him this season he is on track to become an upgrade on Granit Xhaka who was playing a similar role.
Rory ti voglio bene ogni volta che fai questi video 😂❤
Rory seems to be so biased in his hate for Havertz that he isn’t completely agreeing to the fact that Havertz isn’t playing the same role as he was for Chelsea. Arsenal have Saka, Martinelli, Jesus, Odegaard, Trossard, Nketiah and even Rice to score important goals and Havertz isn’t under as much pressure to score every game because he plays as a rotating midfielder who likes to head the ball during dead ball situations and interchanges position with Martinelli and Jesus every few minutes.
I love the t shirt rory ❤❤❤
Give the man some time, come february i think we can make a fair assessment of him. He still seems a bit awkward for me but I hope he keeps this form up. COYG
Kai's talent was stunted for whatever reasons at Chelsea and rather then being bought just to stop a rival buying him on the basis that the needs of one team means they needed that type of player just much to flourish, he's joined a team that wanted his attributes and underlining talent he has that is waiting to be nurtured and then exploited on the pitch. How many times have we bought a highly talented player that wasnt living up to expection only to become legends? They used to call it Wengers magic hat but Arteta's wearing it now 🎩
Listen to you lot going on. 😂😂
Artetas magic hat? He’s won an FA cup and bottled a league title.
@@choke9270 we all know titles are not pulled out of a magic hat. That would be ridiculous thing to believe 😉 everything is tongue in cheek and a two finger salute ✌️
There on Sunday and he add so much versatility to Arsenal. Height, hold up play, good interplay, can score, can track back and has good footballing intelligence. I agree on his off day he looks crap but when he plays well it's in the small under appreciated parts of the game. Excited to see him under Arteta.
Jesus Christ look how this lasted
@RoryJenningsFootball count me in for the livestream 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
you've clearly not watched him week in week out because he's actually been class lately
He knows havertz has been really good at winning the ball and fighting for the team and not playing as a lone stricker like at chelsea
Coming from the guy who predicted that Haaland would be mid...
I would compare it to the situation with Joelinton at Newcastle. He was brought in and played as a striker even though that isn’t and wasn’t a position he was ever good at. Just because a player is tall doesn’t mean they are a CF.
Dude did say if Havertz goes on to score five goals in the next ten games I'll admit I was wrong. He's got four in six
Yeah rory is on the air talksport 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
When you start becoming a club who sign mercenaries the whole thing collapses for both types of player.
The difference is, we actually like him and want him to do well.
Ahhh yes Ryan Bertrand, the iconic chelsea legend
He has been brilliant the last 7 8 games hopefully it carries on
I respect Kai a lot for continuing to push in and eventually perform well for us at the club! But if I’m being completely honest, we probably won’t win the UCL with Kai as a starting midfielder…. I may be wrong, but I just don’t see us beating Madrid or Bayern at full strength without a better midfielder!
This "bad" midfielder has already prevailed in the UCL final against Manchester City. He has proven himself, unlike many would-be stars
@@wiesenklingel7713 he scores a goal in one game that meant a lot but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s gonna do it for us…. I would love for something like that to happen I just don’t think it will
That's why you don't judge a player too soon.
People just like hyping players after a few games. Like how at Man Utd Maguire had a good month and won player of the month and now people are saying he’s always been a top player and everyone was wrong. He’s still an average player, and so is Havertz.
its the manager more than player, Chelsea haven't figured this out yet. You send Jackson to City and he will score 20 goals a season.
Let's make sure to save up to give our respective clubs some pocket change for the men in the middle and the pgmol while we're at it.
The guy has scored 4 goals in his last 7 prem appearances, that’s not just one moment
Kai reminds of of giroud, sometimes you wonder how he became a footballer but they can surprise you any second
Havertz is class
You’re wrong about most things, so this shouldn’t come as a surprise.
As soon as it rains a bit, it's no longer a desert (?)
Rory ingredients make dishes. He is now flavor in the correct meal.
Its all about environment, cohesion, managers and system. Haverts has already proven at Leverkusen that he is an elite talent. Dont have to be the smartest man in the room to understand why it´s harder to perform at Chelsea/Man Utd compared to Arsenal, Liverpool, City
Sour grapes its called Rory!😂
Kai is now an effective part of the Arsenal machine
Kai was stuck while playing for the chelsea dumpsterfire
I can see City continuing to struggle this season. Pinning your hopes on KDB coming back and picking up where he left off is a stretch. That was a serious injury and will take time to get back to game ready level, barring a setback or getting injured again which is possible with the injury he sustained. Reoccurrence of hamstring injuries is very common so it might be too late to turn it around if and when he gets back to 100%.
This boy has the integrity of a politician.
Kie havertz last two goals have taken us first in premier league he is looking like a clutch player
Kai haverts has the Natural ability for being a raumdeuter.. that is why his scoring talent is viewed as a moments player. His defensive and target man abilities are also underestimated
Wow very nice t shirt from rory
Tbh Havertz is a tricky one to place on the field and was infuriating to watch as a Chelsea fan.
BUT when Arteta signed him with Xhaka going out, I thought it was an inspired transfer. Replace Xhaka and you have a player, who will operate in the same half-space he was always good at during Chelsea and Leverkusen stitns, that pocket on the edge of the box or as the last runner in the box during a cross. I expected Havertz to perform better as a goal-scoring threat in this position than at 9 in Chelsea, let's see if he beats the tally.
Totally understand him not being your favourite, but you have to give him his dues with the champions league final. It’s wild dismissing the guy and goal who won the final for your club on one of the biggest nights of your clubs history
The team of Chelsea was so bad. Not just Kai.
For me,if havertz score 15 goals for us. Then he is a key player. He is getting better playing behind striker,like he used to do in bundesliga but not up for his price yet.