The Best Redesigns in Pokémon
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#PokemonORAS #PokemonMasters #PokemonOmegaRubyAlphaSapphire - Hry
I loved how Archie in Alpha Sapphire just has proud pirate dad energy. Like he doesn’t dismiss you, and talks to you with a fondness whenever your ready to fight.
In that same game, the moment when Maxie apologizes to you at how things have turned out, and forcing you, a child, to solve their messes, is such a great moment, I love oras so much
man is literally the definition of chad
He didn't force you. He said please go do it and protagonist was like okay
@@dabmonstr7403 Guess the mc just *loves* Archie and does whatever he says 😂
I can seriously see ORAS Archie talking like Mr. Krabs.
@@alexvaughan1013 MR SQUIDWARD. DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU TO NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLES MONEY!
I'm a sucker for the ORAS redesigns. I really appreciate they actually REMADE Hoenn instead of just making the same region again beat-for-beat.
Appearances were so-so (some I like, some I don't), but I loved how the Magma/Aqua characters had more depth to their personalities and backstory.
It's not remade wym. There's only a very few handful of additional areas but that's like some random rock where we fight Pokemom B&W legendaries.
But that's exactly what it is, and it's not a bad thing, though.
It barely even has Emerald content or anything new besides flying and dexnav.
@@MisterHeroman Improved secret bases, that's 3 things it introduced and lots of carried over stuff from XY.
I love how ORAS Archie gives off the energy of someone who isn't very good at being a tactical leader but more of a hype man. Like, he's not crazy smart, but he can rile up his crew into thinking a 50 v 100 is winnable and then actually have the balls to pull it off. He's a little crazy and that's what gives ORAS Archie so much charm. I have the feeling that Archie would go off the rails at any moment and Shelly would have to nudge him back towards the plan.
yeah it shows his difference to maxie in personality instead of just there (stupid) goals
From what I remember of ORAS, that sounds 100% accurate of Archie
Archie and Maxie are like that duo that visits Disney with Maxie being the one who carefuly planned each ride and waits the longest lines because the ride is worth it while Archie goes on a souvenir shopping spree, stuff his face with snacks and goes on all the rollercoasters several times in a row. At the end of the day, he is puking up all the snacks out and his phone ran out of memory because of all the selfies he took, while Maxie is calmly packing his stuff that still fits his suitcase neat and tidy.
@@MrKlausbaudelaire new ship dynamic just dropped
I think that last sentence is especially amplified in the recently added Magma/Aqua Story in Pokemon Masters, though Shelly tries keeping Matt in check moreso than Archie.
Small thing with Norman's pose, his ORAS key art is symmetrical regarding stance and he gives the Balance Badge, equally balanced. Idk, something that came to mind.
As all things should be.
There's also that sense of "he's your dad, but he ain't going easy on you" as you (perhaps) struggle against Slakings, which, remember has a massive BST of 670.
And also one shotting your pokemon with Retaliate.
Crossed arms also demonstrate obstinacy, a trait many children would quickly assign their parents. Also fitting in the sense that he's the one obstacle keeping you from the entire east half of the map. All your errands running around the west side ultimately build up to overcoming him.
@@MOORE4U2 Dang you're right, that works also. We could right a whole essay on the gym leader poses alone. XD
I guess it's better than the pose in RSE art that makes him look like he's using telekinetic powers on you. He's not a Psychic-type, so why have his arm out like that?
The Aqua admins have my parents names. Shelly is spelled differently but it still freaked me out when I played Alpha Saphire.
Edit: This is an achievement I guess
LOL WHAT WHATS THE CHANCES
can't wait to find out that all your family members names are the same as pokemon characters (joke)
So….are you team aqua? Or magma?
You're halfway. That's actually them before you born
Bruh the promo material always gives Brendan a treeko. My name is Brendan and my favorite starter(and choice the first time I played it) was treeko. I didn’t believe it when my friend told me back when the game came out, but knowing the truth now just makes anything animated feel insanely more personal.
archie and maxies redesigns are particularly great since in rse, they were pretty much the same character with water and land swapped in and out respectively. the redesigns gave them so much personality and made them distinct characters. it went beyond just the art an into their speaking patterns, their movements and animations, and really made them memorable and loveable. having the bland rse archie and maxie show up in usum was the biggest disappointment of the rainbow rocket story.
It honestly threw me for a loop they made 3D models for them, like they redid the bland versions for the sake of.. what? Shock I guess? Show they come from non-mega timelines?
@@BaconNuke yeah I guess it's just to show that there are from a different timeline
This is mostly true for team aqua in rse. Compare their suits to team magma. Even Aquas leader (dont remember his name) has lets say nothing ''blue'' on his costume apart from the hoodie which doesnt give him much ( i mean all old team aqua sprites wear hoodies..). He definetily has the most boring design out of all evil team leaders (well you could argue that this is also true for giovanni, but he has the perfect clothes for a mafia leader, and team rocket aint something more than that). However, the old maxie/archie artstyle returning in usum i think it was supposed to show an alternative world in which they succeded their plan, and because this was the 3ds era, you probably had played oras so you know that you had beaten the specific archie/maxie from the oras.
@@strawberrijam3676 but like they were beaten in the originals too, the real reason they weren't alternate versions of the oras leaders is that the primals overshadow pretty much every other box legendary up to the point, which would make everyone else look weak by comparison
@@creature6715 old archie/maxie belong in the gba era, pretty much 10+ years before oras were released. At the point of oras release date, most of the old fanbase was a relatively small portion of the whole fanbase, andit was comprised mostly of children who hadn't experienced/battled the old archie/maxie. To the newer fanbase that started their pokemon adventure on the 3ds era, seeing the old maxie/archie was a new experience since they had not actually beat them.
While i understand that primals could overshadow other box legends in terms of power, i don't agree with the take considering that giovanni uses mega mewtwo which has higher base stat total (but not necessarily stronger than the primals). Even having that in mind, kyogre and groudon are still much stronger than the other box legends.
Small detail about Norman: he's not just wearing sandals, he's wearing geta. They're Japanese sandals made of wood with two teeth that help keep your feet dry in the rain. It's a subtle nod to the fact that his gym is designed like a martial arts dojo.
“Norman isn’t wearing sandals, he’s wearing Japanese sandals”
@@cubeofmeat4982 I didn't say he isn't wearing sandals, I said he's not just wearing sandals.
@@Ideabot_69 my brain stopped braining i couldnt understand what you just said
It's also a nod to the player character's family being from Johto, which is very traditional Japanese in design.
@@valritz1489 I didn't know they were from Johto, but I guess that explains why his gym looks like a dojo in the first place.
Also Team Aqua being more tanned makes more sense as with them being based around/off of Pirates, they’d be basically always in the sun, so I feel like that’s also a nice callback.
It’s also reflective of the difference between Archie and Maxie’s personalities. Archie is more of a jock, Maxie is more of a nerd; jocks are outside in the sun more often and have more athletic physiques, nerds often spend time inside and hyperfocus, which often results in a pale, frail physique.
I absolutely adore these redesigns and even the random trainers (ace trainers, swimmers etc) got really nice redesigns as well which all look great imo.
Obligatory Hex Maniac.
I get kinda surprised of how the random trainers designs are always simple, but great
I don't really feel like any of the redesigns are any better or worse, they're just different.
While I like the subtle updates HGSS did to the Kanto and Johto casts, ORAS's revamps make the original designs feel uncanny to go back to. Everyone in ORAS has a personality that BDSP seems to forget to update/alter.
ILCA I feel like should be given another chance, but if they fuck up again THEN we complain so hard..
@@BaconNuke I actually really liked BDSP, going for a faithful recreation isn’t inherently a bad thing. But, well, clearly they weren’t aiming for purely an HD version of the same exact game since they made dozens of tweaks that didn’t fit that idea (pokémon walking behind you, overhauled Pokéradar mechanics, some Platinum features to name a few) and so it makes me really wish they at least had all the Platinum features. Old designs, I get it, and I actually liked the weird chibi style after a few hours. No Sylveon or regional forms, megas or dynamax, works for me. But they could have taken more creative liberties than they did while still realizing the vision of a fathful remake.
@@sparky6757 I.. mostly enjoyed BDSP myself don't get me wrong but they were too faithful for too much, the few things they weren't faithful with didn't matter much.. like sure can move multidirectional but that softlocked many people, sure it's cool to change outfits but like.. that was not needed, especially since it was preset outfits anyways, the E4 were a huge spike for no reason, they kept the base game DP but as soon as you hit the E4 they expect competitive EV training and shit, is crazy.. like remakes should be familiar while still having something unique, for example ORAS, mostly normal RS stuff with E postgame but also had megas normally and just.. small tweaks to make it unique from other Hoenn games.. HGSS has the Pokeathalon and the ability to get some of the new evos... like BDSP has nothing that was shared with SWSH.. like legit people were worried there would be Dynamax but that would have been way more interesting than "oh hey.. Sinnoh.. again.. but the worse version.. but only if not in the Underground"
Unlike team magma and aqua, i think that team galactic has already a style of each own, which doesnt need to change. And the admins were already quite distinquisible from the rest of the crew. Team magmas classic design i think is solid, but team aquas is so blunt af.
@@BaconNuke if you THINK they deserve another chance then you need to get checked into a ward
I really appreciated the HGSS redesigns in particular. The one singular unnamed male Rocket Admin you fight like 6 times got split up into 3 distinct dudes, huge improvement
What is this? The powerless man in ORAS? 🤭😁
Too bad they have no personalities
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Well as mentioned in one of Gator Ex's videos their key art resembles much more personality. And the way they talk to you in-game. We range from Archer being the most chill guy to Proton with a beast's temper.
@@wolfycakes136 Not really
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 You can always headcanon
4:41 honestly Wallace just got thotier and I couldn't apreciate it more. Slay king
all that fruit he ate
When ORAS came out, I just started to get into Pokémon. I think a big reason why I found Maxie and Archie so charming was because of their re-designs. Before USUM came out I had seen their original designs already, but I was pretty disappointed to see those instead of the ORAS designs. Not only look the re-designs more pleasing to the eye imo, I think so much of their personality in ORAS is tied to these designs as well, and Archie is my favourite evil team leader because of his personality.
My theory is that archie and maxie are from the non mega universe
In every media outside the msg, Archie and Maxie die trying to control Primal Kyogre and Groudon, so my headcanon is that the og designs were brought back in USUM because there isn't any universe where they survive trying to capture Primal Legendaries
@@timekeeperz9714 tbh that explains it. If he was from there then he would have a primal groudon
archie is my favorite as well, but I found maxie's shorts a little off-putting
ORAS was my first game getting into Pokemon too.
I love the villain teams, but I think I love Wallace's redesign the most. They're both giving flashy and flamboyant, but in completely different ways, and the new one feels more like a gym leader and someone who goes near the water. The old one I always got mixed up with the guy who searches for Suicune in HGSS. It's honestly funny how 2002 fashion in the old games can be summarized by just "BIGGE S H I R T"
Wallace's redesign makes the thought of him studying under Juan really really funny to me. Juan is very buttoned up, prim, and proper, but still fresh as hell. Wallace seems to have taken that and decided "The difference between a Gym Leader and THE Gym Leader is PRESENTATION!"
My favorite has got to be Sidney. He gained just so much attitude in the remake. Compare to the other Dark specialists - namely Karen, Grimsley, and Nanu - we see a less cunning and more brutal side to the Dark type. He also has some continuity with the other Dark specialists, Marnie and Piers, sharing a sort of alternative punk fashion sense. Just a really standout example of how a few subtle changes can drastically improve a character.
Archie's redesign when combined with the ORAS version of his boss theme as you battle is a chef's kiss of a combination (even better with the insane background during the Seafloor Cavern battle). The ORAS soundtrack in general is incredible, and it continues the legacy of the Ruby and Sapphire trumpets proudly. Also, who wouldn't want a Mega key stone design as epic as his anchor necklace? Archie got a Chad upgrade.
Lol not at all
Part of the reason I reset my copy of Alpha Sapphire was to experience that sublime soundtrack again. God have mercy on those 3DS speakers, them trumpets are coming IN
This just adds to my disappointment with BDSP. The character designs are reflective of their era, so to see them not be at least somewhat changed to look more in line with the early 2020s makes the game look a bit dated.
Agreed still disappointed the worst remaster supposed to be a actual remake 😢
I was just thinking of that... :( words can't express my disappointment. especially with gen 4 being my favorite gen. boy, were we robbed
Ugh I know. It was so dissapointed with the lack of new cool redesigns. I guess flint will just always look like Ronald Mcdonald
They gave us ancestors, so it's not nothing at least.
@@djdrizzy9139 thats not bdsp tho bdsp disappointed legends arceus was much better
I love oras' redesign because it is very regional. We all know that Hoenn is designed based on the southern part of Japan, with islands and oceans, and the climate is more tropical. In the design of RS, almost all characters wear long pants and thick coats, seem to live in the temperate zone, while the costume design of ORAS is more like tropical and living nearby the sea.
Maxie must be dying in that outfit.
4:53 I always thought Wallace's scarf in his redesign made him look a bit like Hatsune Miku lol
I've never seen this comment but I literally had a similar thought yesterday-
6:19 both old designs look like they're high af
True
7:49 His collar is taller which makes him a baller
I like both of the different art styles because they show us how far the art style in Pokemon has changed over the years, and it's very fun to look back to see where it all began. Great video! 👏🏻
7:04 8 years since these games and I never noticed that their poses were supposed to make an M
Can we talk about how everyone else can hold a single pokeball, but Matt, the hulk that he is, holds two, with one finger each. He is MASSIVE
I like how they gave the Magma and Aqua admins designs that really match their style and enviroment. Aqua look like pirates and sea scavengers, hence the diving suits (and looking hella hunky, I mean, dang, Matt is an absolute UNIT!) while the Magma team all look like geologists, and thus, more "nerdy" and serious. Steven also got a nice dash of ELEGANCE! And I think its important to flex gym leaders/champions who are NOT cosplaying their type and overcompensating, like Phoebe, who looks more like a Water-type trainer than a Ghost-type and I love it! (or Crasher Wake being a wrestler, even if heavily dressed in blue.)
Also, Norman's sandals are, more specificaly, the wooden getas, that match his "Dojo" gym style much better as well.
6:25 I allways had the impression He was suppose to look like a Yakuza gangster, mixed with a pirate theme.
They yassified archie and maxie and I love it.
I do prefer OG May and Brendan, but Roxanne and Glacia were definitely boosted. The villain teams also. Granted I think the rest of the changes are just modernized, not necessarily better or worse.
And then there’s Drake, a literal perfect design that needed no alteration.
At least they recognised that some of the original designs didn’t need alterations, and that’s a good thing.
Wallace's og design looks much better to me. I also like the older grunt designs, the new magma outfits don't look right, they look like woven clothes with that line texture. Original aqua grunts actually looked like pirates. The newer designs are def a lot more flashier and detailed but the more simpler designs led to designers having an easier time designing their in game pixel art.
Mays original design looks nice since both her and Brandon have more realistic proportions and clothes look better suited for traveling. But her new design and Brandon's don't bother me at all, they look good too.
The new grunts don't look intimidating at all, as a kid i can see how they'd scare people in the region but their new designs don't look serious at all to me
@@halinaqi2194 wdym the old aqua grunts look like prisoners not pirates
@@solarstorm5242 Well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
5:27 never knew that there was a ghost child watching the battle in the remakes.
5:55 I absolutely LOVE all the ORAS redesigns, but I absolutely ADORE AND LOVE Steven's!!! I wish you had spent more time on his because you pointed out some very nice subtle details in other designs, and the subtle changes to his outfit and pose make a HUGE difference.
He went from a pretty generic final boss looking character (typical CEO look, maybe confident but otherwise bland and unmemorable) to someone with MUCH more personality and charisma that you can see. He has a very commanding presence that DEMANDS to be felt; his big dick energy is off the charts 😂 You can see how powerful and confident (possibly even arrogant) he is now; he knows he is powerful and can get what he wants done. He is poised, confident, refined, classy, suave, and stylish, and his silhouette is much more refined to reflect that. He is also more youthful looking, which adds to the sense of his being a dueling prodigy. I LOVE the subtle nods to his Metagross in his shirt sleeves, and his shirt being unbuttoned also adds a more youthful and casual, down-to-earth flair that we didn't see before.
I love you, Steven!!!! 😍😍😍
5:41 most underrated mommy ever
I just wanna say that I wished Wally had a more prominent role in the story. I like his journey of discovery and self improvement, yet we see barely any of it.
His story was incredibly memorable though, add on to that the music in the final battle, and you get my favourite part of oras story.
I recently played alpha sapphire and the designs in that game are some of my favourites in the whole franchise
it sucks that the game is piss easy
@@14g0t7 and just sucks in general. completely pissed on the charm of the original RSE series.
Its pretty much a given that ORAS redesigns are superior, even if I still have a soft spot for the philosophy of the original designs.
Well, all but one that I can't say it's openly better, and that's May's:
While I can see the mix of both her previous designs, I feel this time around the "cute" aspect went overboard and completely loses the edge and coolness her previous designs had. I don't know, it comes off as a stereotypical "girl next door", which yeah sure, that's exactly a thing in the game, but she's also a protagonist independent of such a tag, and her previous designs focused on that aspect, rather than a new "Player insertion plan" that in my opinion hurts her character as whole, specially considering that she arguably has the better "Protagonist -like" design of the 2.
That being said, I'll admit it's really cool how the 3 designs could potentially work as a visual representation of her growth as a trainer, as if it were a TV series or something. I can easily see her wearing these outfits much like, say, Spider-Man on the MCU, to represent her journey.
I get what you mean. I personally saw it as incorporating aspects of her anime counterpart, probably because that's the version I knew first. Her old fits are cooler, but I always wondered why she dressed so sporty when she wasn't into that sort of stuff, but I can definitely see anime may wearing the oras fit
@@nellewoodruff6337 I always wondered too, well the outfit was cool/pretty it just downright confused me as a kid. Nice to see the updates
I honestly didn't buy the game bc I didn't like May's redesign, along with the fact you couldn't customize the main characters, so she was always gonna be there no matter what.
I loved RS May's design (Emerald ain't that bad tho)
@@nellewoodruff6337 Exactly. I don't have a problem with AniMay, since it's as close as it gets to my favorite version seeing as there isn't another (Maybe the one from Evolution, but that's a stretch), but it does feel as if her design was meant for something else. I don't mind the direction they took on the anime, after all they wanted to showcase a new feature from the games and have new narratives to tell, but it undeniably brought a problem that many of the female characters in the anime (let alone the 3 game protagonists that were affected by it) just go for contests as their defacto role.
Yeah, very minor things that normally wouldn't affect the experience, but it's one of those things you notice about your favorite characters, who sometimes just are not represented as you'd like.
@@the-sillycate YES! I do like a character that's cute and femenine, but she was one of the only characters in the game who didn't need that much of a change, having a timeless design that fits well amongst the series she's part of.
Personally, I'm glad customization isn't a feature of these remakes since I'm particularly conservative about the designs of characters I like. I would have used it to change her clothes to the originals, if that was the case and those were available, but in this particular case I think it was the right choice, if only for my own selfish reasons.
I really like Archie’s new(er) design so much better than the original. Same with Maxie but I just like Archie’s a bit more
Yeah, I feel like Archie's redesign reminds me of Barret Wallace from FF7.
Maxie looks terrible.
I love how Tabitha was the typical cool looking slim guy in the original rse and in ORAS he's just talking Makuhita.
Annabelle got the best redesign seriously she looks like a beautiful spy. Sabrina's redesign in HG and SS is pretty good as well.
Anabel got more of a time skip then a redesign to be fair.
@CedLow you say the same for Ingo then.
@@FTChomp9980
They are two different kinds of redesigns: Anabel's look was changed because she doesn't have the same role as the original, being a MiB type agent as opposed to a theme park leader. Meanwhile, Ingo is a guy that got stranded in another time with only some fragments of who he was before, hence him still wearing his old clothes over the Team Pearl uniform.
As for Sabrina... I like her new look, but I really would like to know the thought process that led to such a drastic redesign for HGSS: the other gym leaders got relatively minor changes to make them a bit different to how they appeared in the first gen, but Sabrina and Blaine are completely different. And Blaine is more understandable since he looks like a retired old man.
Annabelles redesign makes her look like Kyoko kirigiri from danganronpa now
@@isaacduong779 AND IT'S FABULOUS 😍
The changes to Archie and Maxie lead to the Adventures manga having to deal with it in a very interesting way. The RSE chapter gives more personality to the leaders and admin, but just showing how little was in the games or telegraphed by their designs, Maxie was given the personality of a Bandit King and Archie was a businessman. The adminis also got personalities, which could be pretty different from what the remakes gave them. Courtney was the most developed and was a femme fatale. For the ORAS chapter, the admins of neo Magma and Aqua had to be new people using the code names of the old admins, while Megaverse Archie and Maxie were Archie and Maxie after their personalities had been mixed together through distortion world magic (long story)
i absolutely adore wallace’s new design, along with all the oras designs as a whole. they just look so much better…
I prefer Winona’s OR/AS design by a mile. The wings and goggles like you said, as well as the removal of yellow and more flowing clothes show her type specialty better.
Would’ve loved for Juan and the Emerald battle frontier Brains to get cool redesigns too
I'll never forgive them for robbing us of Frontier Brain redesigns
@@bemiatto67 I'll never forgive them for robbing us of Frontier Brain full stop
I always adored Archie’s design in ORAS. Especially the anchor, the mega stone in the middle was like the cherry on the cake.
8:38 Actually, I mean actually, does this guy really need a Pokemon? He can basically annihilate a team by himself. This is the perfect example of choosing a wrong job.
irl just send out your tyranitar or sceptile or whatever and let it attack the trainer to assisinate his ass if he doesn't have any pokemon
Crazy to think that Oras is almost 8 years old now. They're still my favorite remakes in the entire series. That might be a little bit controversial since HGSS exists but the designs of Oras just do it for me.
And Shelly
5:47 if whitebeard was a Pokémon trainer
OG Archie: Yeah, sure, you're a thug with a bandana. That's nice. Please step aside while I'm catching the oversized whale/dinosaur/snake.
Redesigned Archie: Step on me, pirate daddy. We'll deal with the end of the world later.
(Also, am I the only one to get Bayonetta vibes from redesigned Shelly? She has that confident strut of "Imma be sexy because I LOVE IT!")
Yeah, they're objectively warmer, more inviting redesigns overall, but I'll always have a hard-to-dissolve soft spot for Ken Sugimori's older, but bolder and sharper-looking human characters and Pokemon. There's a rawness and timelessness to his art that most character designers simply don't have, especially since Sugimori's stepping-down as chief art director since he last worked on ORAS.
"I think he's the biggest dude we've seen as far as main characters go" - 8:29
*Bruno*
The best things about remakes are redesigns of character. An updated look of them really makes the game even more likeable. Redesigns of pokedexes and gadgets are also what I look forward too. Too bad BDSP was too faithful to the original games.
RS and DP designs are fine tho?
I feel like Norman was a much better improvement for who he actually is: a Hoenn gym leader who originates from the Johto region. His clothing (especially the sandals) accentuate the combination of Hoenn and Johto.
Norman's ORAS art embodies "I'm not mad, just disappointed"
I really like Brawly's original outfit, feels very much like something a skater would wear in the 90s.
I really like Drake's redesign because of what he specialises in and how he acts as a person. The redesign puts his face at a higher angle compared to the viewer's, which conveys that he's in a position of power (or at least that he sees himself in one) over the player, which could especially be the case because of his specialisation with dragon types, which are viewed as extremely powerful and commanding of respect.
Old human's head: ⬜
New human's head: ⚪
2:08 I love that Wally doesn’t necessarily look confident. He’s been on this journey but he’s still not that sure of himself. He looks like he’s still kinda afraid but more willing to face his fear
My favorite things about the re-design for Wallace (and really every trainer re-design throughout) is how it was explained beautifully through the story in the Pokemon Adventure manga
Ruby and sapphire were my first pokemon games, and for quite a while my only ones! So I was really happy when I recently played the remake on 3ds, those redesigns make the characters really stand out!!
Amazing video as always!
Ps:
I didn't know brawly was voiced by Jason Griffith on the anime!! XD
This might be controversial but Im really greatful that they changed how the characters looked as in style, I think the og style with the thin long eyes were just really creepy. If only we could have the water color pokemon key art with the modern proportions
Steven’s redesign was my favourite he’s become so much hotter, honestly loved the ORAS redesign and the games are my favourites they recaptured the nostalgia of the old games these games are near and dear to me
An important detail of Norman's redesign in ORAS is the fact that he wears geta sandals. He and his family are originally from Johto so having some kind of regional representation in his design is a nice touch.
"Dripmaster Archie" along with that face sent me a lot harder than it should have
Its actually interesting seeing how the designs of trainers and gym leaders has become as important as the designs of the pokemon
The HGSS and ORAS games are what set my expectations for the Sinnoh remakes. A lot of design growth, new mechanics, expansions to the story of the third game. With every passing generation my expectations grew bigger and bigger. I dreamt of a fully realized 3D distortion world and later an even grander HD distortion world.
But when the trailers to the demakes dropped I cried. I felt betrayed and it hurt like someone stabbed my heart.
Sinnoh was my home. How could they betray it so?
What I found interesting was when they did the whole "Team Rainbow Rocket" thing in Ultra Sun & Moon, they brought back the original designs for Archie and Maxie. Made for a strange sort of "blast from the past" retro feel, though it did also kind of highlight just how drastic the change for their ORAS redesign was.
8:43 Boa Hancock pose, I like that!!!
The geta shoes in norman os actually a huge boost to his design. It shows the familiar to him, hes in a home enviroment, his gym is basically just a giant home ngl, and it makes sense, why are you using shoes indoors, use some flip flops
THANK you for making this video. Ive said for years that while the redesigns might change interpretations or intentions of some characters like Maxie, and May, they have SO much personality in them. I can look at their art, and immediately understand them as a character. Its fantastic designs and use of them. I love both versions of characters and there are pros to each, but the use of exaggeration and expression in the new ones are just such a wonderful direction.
YES! I am so glad I'm not alone in ADORING Archie's redesign. I firmly believe that a character's design should be recognizable from their silhouette AND show the viewer something important about their personality. He's such a loud and flamboyant character and his new outfit displays that with the flipped-up collar, open chest and large anchor medallion. This outfit doubles as choreographing his preferred Pokémon typing which helps the player prepare for fights with him when able.
You don't know how fast I clicked this. I've always thought redesigns to characters was very (and I hste using this word but I feel it's apt here) underrated when it comes to Pokemon's remakes. It's personally one of the things I look forward to most so you can probably already tell how disappointed I was when BDSP's named trainers didn't get redesigns (as if there wasn't already things to be disappointed about with those games). I can (and have) gone over my thoughts on most of these designs before so I'll (reluctantly) save the lecture but I would like to point out that Flannery, Archie, Brawly and Wallace have the best ones don't @ me and it sucks that ORAS didn't get Battle Frontier cause I would've loved me some Tucker and Lucy redesigns.
I'm glad BDSP sucked because it means we'll finally stop getting remakes
Lucy's design was so good it probably would have been unchanged. Lucy strong
I really love the redisings of those remakes, the only designs I miss in RSE are Brendan and May but aside of that OR/AS made a big improvement of litteral every character, even the basic npc trainers
I ... never realised that Team Magma were posing like that to form a "M" 🙃
Lol. A lot of the evil teams have a gimmick pose that forms a logo.
A side by side comparison of archie in the thumbnail is just freaking hilarious to me idk why
Me when I see new Wallace: I- oh- I- oh- I jus- *loses ability to speak*
When I saw Archie in Alpha Sapphire wearing that anchor chain, I instantly knew that the madman behind the criminal activity appeared, even though Alpha Sapphire was my second Pokémon game overall, and my first (and currently only) Hoenn Pokémon game
you really need to play Emerald. ORAS is fucking cancer that shouldnt exist. shits on the charm of the originals 100%
@@bearzdlc2172 while I do not agree with your feeling on ORAS (mainly because I was introduced to the series during Gen VI (and I am also quite a big fan of Gen VI), and I liked Alpha Sapphire), I do agree that I should definitely play the originals (as a matter of fact, I am planning to), including Emerald. However, Im gonna need to wait till either A: I obtain a Game Boy Advance, along with the cartridges; or B: I wait till Nintendo and Game Freak release Virtual Console editions of those games (I found out about the games around 2018, and I have only owned a DS that has been broken since 2014/2015 (I don't have it now, and the two halves were separated because that's what happens when you adjust the screen too many times), a 3DS, and a Switch)
@@deadlydiamond why dont you Just emulate It bruh
@@deadlydiamond Gen 6 was a disappointment and honestly I've never been impressed with any of the remakes
@@phantommontalbanoinc.447 I only have a phone, a 3DS, and a Switch, and I am still waiting till I get a PC as well, so emulation is not an option for me atm
Archie went from a knock-off Puerto Rican gangster to an actual pirate mob boss.
Another interesting thing about Archie is that his veard resembles ice breaker ships, which have pointed prows to break through ice. This design motif can also be seen in Empoleon, where its beak has the same icebreaker shape.
I love these redesigns cause it's shows how the arts style has changed and for a good reason
Also I wish y'all a good day
I think that ORAS is a beautiful way to do a remake. It added and redesigned a few things. The story didn't necessarily feel the same, and the character redesigns felt modern, and I LOVED seeing more tan people like me in the games. It was a nice change and I think thats why the games feel so fresh today, in my personal opinion.
Every Pokémon game I’ve played I always have a soft spot for no matter what. It’s probably because I like to look at the positives instead of the negatives. It’s like how one of my favorite shiny Pokémon is Azumarill because it was my very first shiny. Which was in ORAS
"Did you also know that brawly was voiced by sonic in the anime?"
*now this, brings a smile to my face*
YES YES!! Someone finnaly talks about the in my opinon best redesigns in all Pokemon History! Also a thing I would like to point out, in the oras poster with team magma and aqua on 2 sides shows a lot of personality, like we have team magma in a straight line and then we have team aqua, you can see some dude slipped and fell, other guy flirting with a female grunt just all over the place. A really nice contrast.
2:06 badass guitar riff not mentioned
Archie and Maxie got the biggest glow up in pokemon history and you can't change my mind
I love Norman's new design. Suits him really well
"Who are you?" "You but wearing a different hat." "I couldn't tell."
3:42 yo what’s up Dad
Archie's redesign was my gay awakening
Shelly's was mine....
Ken Sugimori's art and style is superior. I'm glad I'm the original target audience for Pokémon and got to enjoy it.
Agree. These designs are childish. Pokémon back then was more "serious", inside the realm of how serious Pokémon can be.
@@gonzalodiaz9326that's good. The newer designs arr honestly a lot more striking, energetic and more recognizable than the lax same faces of Gen 4 and below. Not to say that art style was bad but it was very generic
I appreciate your videos due to how much unbiased insight they have in them whilst also giving criticism from time to time. Much love.
I'm amazed the multiple Evil Teams motif hasn't been used in more mainline games. With most modern Box Art legends representing contrasting things, having two conflicting teams coinciding with the particular game's legendary would work quite well.
wallace is the ru-pauls drag race protagonist
YESS
3:01 Thank you sooo much for making that clear because when I heard his voice while watching that episode I thought that it sounded like sonic but didn’t know if it was
Archie is one of the best redesigns in gaming history. His old one is rough
I need to add there's one "key" aspect for everyone's designs that have it... THE KEY STONES! They're also a big piece to each design for characters that have them. Sure, they may be shoehorned in for the generation of Pokemon they're in, but I feel they're a great addision to the designs that also fit the character. Brendan and May get silver bracelets, Wally gets what seems to be a wooden pendant necklace, Maxie has his intelligently and conveniently set in the corner of his glasses' arm, Archie has it front and center in the middle of his anchor necklace, and Steven has it, in my opinion and words, "classily", set in the clicker section of the pen in his breast pocket. Aaand to me, Steven gets more of an overhaul like the enemy team leaders, but there's more detail to his original design to go off of than those two where it SEEMS like his redesign the same. His jacket's external purple lines get changed to simply act as the... Collar lining? Of the jacket leading down, while the lines themselves remain and get swapped to a deeper black. His jacket is now open, making him seem more outgoing than his outfit would make you believe since, you know, *he's the son to the region's technology factor's CEO*. AND finally, his rings stick, but what changes are the bands on his arms shift down to his wrists like heavy, all encompassing cuffs, and metal straps are added to his shoes, bringing home the fact that he's actually kind of a Steel-type trainer. Sure, he doesn't specialize in it, but if I remember right, 2 or 3 of his pokemon, ESPECIALLY HIS ACE, ARE STEEL TYPES. Skarmory, Metagross, *I forget if he rocks Aggron*. With the last name of "Stone" and with Roxanne having already gotten the Rock type, we gotta give the guy some of ore motif. XD
Archie’s designs went from creepy uncle to daddy come wreck me
Hoenn is definitely presented as a region with a relatively warmer climate, I’m very glad all these redesigns embrace that.
they yassified wallace lmao
Archie really pulled a Michael Jackson
Its nice to see how GF changed and developed their artstyle over the years. Emerald was my first pokemon game, and so seeing how Archie and Maxie changed so drastically (in a good way) from the original RSE to ORAS really is awe inspiring. I just wish they came back in USUM, with team rainbow rocket for whatever reason left them out in favor of their original but updated designs.
Reason they left Archie and Maxie’s redesign out is cus “nonmega timeline” BUT USUM HAD MEGAS.
it's amazing how much of a difference even a small change like foot posture can have on perception of a character