How mRNA could help fight deadly cancer | DW News
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2023
- The Covid-19 pandemic traumatized people and societies, but it also spurred medical advances in a very big way. Perhaps nowhere as much as in the field of vaccines, where a groundbreaking new platform based on molecules called messenger RNA saved millions of lives. Now the technology is coming into its own in other areas, like as a possible treatment for another killer: pancreatic cancer.
We talk about this with Derrick Williams from DW science and ask him: How likely is it that mRNA will lead to a successful cancer treatment? And what obstacles are still left to overcome?
#cancer #vaccine #pancreaticcancer
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Living with an incurable disease is so hard, but you just have to live life day by day as it goes by (Cancer sucks)...
@Barb DeLaney wow, how can i get in touch with her? this healer, does she cure other sickness
@Barb DeLaney wow, found her website, thank you very much for this.
Keep on keepin on!
My father lived with this incurable disease for about 20 years, but soon after he got the mRNA shots, it became uncontrollable, and he died within less than a year.
Any progress on pancreatic cancer is good news as it is pretty much a death sentence and it is a very horrible way to die.
It's also very quick to die. My mother know someone who died after 3 months illness.
@@lawrencekling8598 My mother died 6 months after diagnosis.
Thank goodness, I hope this becomes a viable treatment quickly. Pancreatic cancer is a nightmare.
This is amazing. I lost my mother and grandmother to pancreatic cancer. It’s crazy cause usually when you’re diagnosed with pancreatic cancer you’re already in stage 4.
I think something like 10% of people are diagnosed before stage 4. My friend Mum was diagnosed with stage four and she died like six months later. I think the survival rate is only one out of five after five years.
I have it right now fond out last November
The average tumor doubles about every 100 days. To put that into perspective, an average tumor of 1mm diameter takes 6 years to develop (virtually undetectable). A tumor of 10mm takes about 10 years. So for a tumor to be as big as a baseball will take decades. Tumors aren't mushrooms. They don't just pop up and you won't pick them up early because nobody just goes in for random scans. So everyone just has to wait for discomfort or feeling an unusual lump, which is often very late.
@@davidjones535 dude i’m so sorry to hear that
Is there any type of routine screening you can have for the pancreas because of your family history? I have a colon cancer history in my family so I'll go for.colonoscopy. could they give you an abdominal CTscan to look for early growths?
This needs to be accelerated with all urgency😊
@@MadnessMotorcycle if I had pancreatic cancer? Gladly. Put me at the top of the list. I watched a family member die of it and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
@@MadnessMotorcycle So let me get this straight. NoneYaBusiness just stated that they wouldn't wish pancreatic cancer on their worst enemy. You respond with "I hope you get your wish" implying you hope this person gets cancer. Please tell me I am misinterpreting this.
@drfelren he was implying that he gets the vaccine you slow person. You flakes with your bad faith arguments 🤣🤣 try not to CAP next time.
Agreed
WRONG ❗
Science is amazing!
It is indeed. By the time mRNA inoculated develop cancer, the mRNA "cure" will be available 🤪
The universe is amazing. Science is a methodology to discover the universe.
@@eyeofthetiger7 Our universe is not the only world. There are many other multiple dimensions out there.
@@cyrusthegreat1893 Last I checked that's still just a theory.
Science is KING!
As some one who hond out that I have Stage 4 pancreatic cancer last November it may to long for me but for somone in the future this could mean a longer life .
My mom is currently suffering stage IV Lung Adenocarcinoma. I wish she could try out this treatment while she is still alive. How can we apply for trial?
I hope that this treatment is available soon for all kinds of cancers at all four stages, so people will not have to die from this dreadful disease.
I don't like the intro a little bit - I think it's a bit confusing giving the impression like covid and mRNA vaccines did a kick-start for mRNA cancer treatment. While it's actually the opposite way.
I used to work with LifeScience companies (from IT Consultancy side - but you're getting immersed in their whole business process).
I'd say - those researches with mRNA were in progress way before COVID. The complexity of technology and investigations deeply impressed me.
Actually seeing what and how they were doing in the area of cancer prevention with mRNA it was no surprise - they were able to produce the mRNA vaccines so simply and quickly. I know they appeared on market not immediately in 2019 but a year+ later - but that's due to need of 4 levels of trials, but the vaccine formula itself was done within first hours, I'm not kidding - not even days - it's becuase comparing to the level of complexity of cancer treatment - printing the mRNA for signatures of the virus, but removing the pathogenic body was in relative terms like to ask software developer to scan the page, copy-paste the header and print it - meaning - it's not my primary function - but it's no big deal... and if you're willing to pay big money for that - fine. So companies like pFizer and moderna took their chance for easy money.
But the main battle and complexity in research facilities that were using mRNA was for a Cancer treatment for quite some years
☝️ THIS 👆
Absolutely true! mRNA for treatment therapy is NOT NEW! Like so many ignorant numpties seem to think. The initial look into using mRNA for various therapies, including cancer treatment, was begun over 50 years ago.
AND there were TWO mRNA vaccines for human diseases already created. But it turned out that we didn't need them. The pathogens burned themselves out and did not become pandemic status.
BUT... so many complete NUMPTIES never went to learn about that... they just "believed" the stupidity that they were fed.
yes. Hindi version for us though mention that mRNA for COVID was successful within one year because work had already been done on mRNA for decades.
thanks for sharing this
thank you to all scientists who contribute to this miracle cure
Hopefully there is a cure soon! This is truly inspiring!
Geno mapping is now the first phase as treatment plans are customized. I hope this is successful as it often spreads while being treated or already did by the time its found.
That “geno mapping” is highly confidential. Anyone can make the mRNA vaccine but the sequence used to obtain it involved complex software that took years to create. It would be like Tesla giving away its auto drive software.
@@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 sometimes the general welfare is far far far more important than personal gain or intellectual property rights... ask Jonas Salk.
Brilliant!
This is where AI holds the most opportunity, i.e. lower cost gene sequencing and advanced manufacturing. People’s fear of AI is rational, but for this application, it brings with it huge potential for good.
Here it goes again.
it is still very doubtfully that mRNA vaccines saved a lot of lives, because it was also used for people which did not need it. But I agree that mRNA can be used for cancer treatment. mRNA should only be used as a medication and not as a possibility to gain a lot of money.
Brilliant!!
FU cancer
I have pancteatic cancer 4th and would like to try this new technology very much.
Do they need volunteer for test?
my favorite science guy 🥰
Great scentise
They can't even develop a cure for or stop the progression of chronic pancreatitis, let alone pancreatic cancer .
Cool i hope this works!
human body is amazing
There's so much flooding the social media platforms since the release of the mRNA treatment for COVID emphasizing its hopefulness in battling cancer. This seems so contrived.
Good news
Considering that this technology so far seems to be increasing the rates and aggressiveness of cancer, I'm gonna say no. Fix your diet, first and foremost.
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Science > Religion ❤❤❤
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Hopefully fast tracked go go go!
And the nutters are out in full force again in the comments I see lol.
The likelihood of this working is 50/50. If it does work, it'll be financially out of reach for average people for at least the first few decades. We're not talking about a few thousand dollars here. We're talking high hundreds of thousands through to millions for that kind of personalised medicine.
Cancer should be thing of the past by now, considering how much money put in research
Cancer is us. There's no getting rid of it.
Quintillions of taxpayers dollars over the last hundred years and "Ummm, we don't know what causes it"....ever heard of a cost -benefit analysis?
There is no such a cure for cancer. It can be prevent if you have right diet and healthy lifestyle.
@@ceeemm1901 Big Pharma don't want people get better instead they keep them on long term prescription, it's very profitable on that way. Many people died over medicated.
@@lawrencekling8598 it can also be generic or from exposure to something in your environment, so no amount of diet and exercise can completely protect you from getting it.
Amazing Science
This is very good news
Doctor, please, how do I participate in a trial version? I have breast cancer from Algeria. May God protect you. Help me. Our country is medically incapable. I am 42 years old. I beg you to help me.
I think Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer but more prevalent cancers like lung cancer and GI carcinoma should also be reseached.
in 2012 i seen predictions about mNRA possible treatment for cancer, 10 years in and still nothing... I know it takes time, but the same i saw talking back then and not yet any progress !
Wonder if vaccine deniers will take this if they got cancer. 😂
Let's hope
No chance I would. Pure blood and proud. No thanks.
@@davidryan5482 😆🤣😂 Dude nothing will make "pUrE bLooD" happen.
A true dilemma for them. Let them purge themselves. Good riddance!
@@davidryan5482 Pure blood won't help you in your coffin.
science > every religion
Science keeps advancing. Trust scientists. Don't believe conspiracy theorists and crazy articles or media.
It matters where you get your information from. Get information from trusted sources not con men and grifters.
Dream on, modern scientists need money and like big cars and mansions. For profit medicine that takes away your house to maybe cure you in a hospital stay of a couple of weeks is the NORM NOW A DAYS!!!! There is no money in cure, just on drugs.
YUP! But the CON men just "sound" better to so many ignorant numpties.
surely they should be able to use in on any cancer?
Mom, I miss you every day.
F-ing hospitals don't test early enough.
Why wouldn’t more people trust the use of mRNA for other applications? 🤔
It's not as politically sensitive. Too many people let others think for themselves.
Because it can't be trusted for that one application, either...
because they've been mislead into thinking its a danger because it was politically advantageous to pit them against others and sow doubt
@@AstraI, actually, in this case it was not advantageous for the elites to have a people doubting/divided. That logic only counts when people unite against them. You really think they wanted dissent during the pandemic? Or rather have everyone simply comply? Why do you think they want to "amend" the WHO treaty, removing vital protections against abuse to ensure compliance, if they could have had compliance from the beginning by 'not sowing doubt'?
@@kn0wmore126 the elites? it was advantageous for them to galvanize support, and for foreign actors to exacerbate existing divisions and mistrust you seem to be thinking of some shadowy cabal overseeing everything I don't think it was some global plan hatched by elites. However it was advantageous domestically and for foreign adversaries
50 years of kemo may have been profitable but....
Steve Jobs: **angry Apple noises**
Truly you are amazing Dr Obulor on CZcams, your perfection is incredibly impressive. I’m glad that I got a permanent cure off Cancer from you…
Many genetic caused disease and sicknesses can be cured by the genetic modification process.
This is not a genetic modification process though. If you wanted to treat a genetic defect this way, you'd probably have to administer MRNA regularly. Actually fixing the defect at the DNA level (so you can't give it to your offspring) would be much more complicated.
@@ErikMesserli Thanks for the explanation!
Biontech🥳
mRNA is single-stranded, while DNA is double-stranded...
Anti-vaxers can sit this one out. Make way for scientists’ greatest achievement in this century!
Just dont mention the Mrna migration thru out the body in an uncontrolled infection causing injury = myocarditis
The opposite, family member got pancreatic cancer 3months after the booster shots. Mrna vaccined have increased igG4 levels.
I suppose if it can cause cancer it can also cure cancer?
WHAT can cause cancer? mRNA????
YOU have to be joking! OR you have bought into the STUPIDITY!
mRNA is part of ALL of your cells, except the red blood cells. It is messenger RNA. It gets the info from the nucleus of the cell to the ribosomes so that the proper enzymes (proteins) are created. Without it... YOU DIE!
You are such a NUMPTY that you don't even know this very BASIC cell biology.
Bring it on, when can I have a vax at the German mall then?
This involves taking away your cancer cells and then processing them into a vaccine. That’s a month long process and will be extremely expensive.
@@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 Hopefully costs can be reduced quickly so that all can have access if they need it.
Antivaxxers: RREeeee
Could you also cover the “ethics declarations” section of the study? The part where there’s conflict of interest as the day is long.
U can explain "ethics declaration"? What do U mean?
At what Ages or what stages should one should be introduce? Or else a children will have to do tons of vax. What are the criteria to introduce this
This would be used as a cure if you already *have* pancreatic cancer, not as a prevention.
Adding some detail to what NoneYaBusiness said. A vaccination basically tells you body that something is dangerous and that it should prepare to fight it. For infectious disease this of course means it only works if you take it before you get the disease. Thats how the vast majority of vaccines work. A cancer is a random mutation of one of your cells that your immune system doesn't think is dangerous, even though its killing you. With this tech the idea is to take a sample of the actual cancer a person has, make a vaccine, use it to teach the person's immune system that the cancer is dangerous and then have the immune system clear the cancer. Since cancers are random, this of course makes sense only once you are already diagnosed with cancer and a sample can be taken.
This is cancer immunotherapy. It is inherently highly risky because, at the biochemical level, cancer IS you.
So you are training the immune system to attack self, and hopefully it stops at the rebellious hyper-reproducing portion of self.
The danger of these therapies are very like radiation and chemotherapy in that respect. Not something that anybody will get unless the alternative is a guaranteed lingering nasty death from an existing malignancy.
"Covid 19 traumatized people and societies"
Meanwhile I was having the god damn time of my life.
I hope all goes well cuz thats the cancer that killed my mom.
Doesn't cancer have a ph
No... Your body, at least the blood, must stay within pH 7.35 - 7.45 Otherwise you die. That's a very narrow range. Don't listen to that Gwyneth Paltrow "alkalize" hogwash. Cancer cells, as explained here, have specific proteins on their surface. Just like the "spike" proteins of the COVID-19 virus.
😂😂😂😂No thanks
U are next to Darwin awards, right?😂😂😂
You wouldn't say that if you had pancreatic cancer.
Yeah. No, thanks. 😂😂😂
Hm. Thank you, but, no thank you.
The same mentality that would make one choose a car trip over an airplane flight... with an airplane. flight being multiple times faster and safer!
Move towards modernity.
Thats easy to say when you dont have cancer.
Your choice, cancer is not an infectious disease so wether you go for cancer treatment or not only impacts yourself.
@@rocksmo3384 Actually, all the more reason to grab onto any life raft tossed your way.
@@ad_astra468 it's just further examples of peoples ignorance of the suffering you go through when you have cancer.
Erm, how many dozens of boosters we talking about? ;)
About $5b
"Dozens of boosters"
Anti-vaxxers have arrived spreading misinformation.
They'll sell them in 6 packs with a chemo chaser.
This wouldn't be a preventive vaccine, but used if you actually *have* cancer to help treat it. For f sakes listen to the video before you open your mouth. 🤦♀️
Eternal life only through the Word of God, there is no other way, don't be fool.
No thanks.
The first information I get here is that DW is funded by the pharma industry.
I wonder if there is any research done on the prevention of cancer. Guess this was an ironic question. A society which makes tons of money with illnesses can't be described other than failed society. Food security is at an all-time low, and declining. Let's make money!!
I wouldn't be surprised
@Null Pointer eben nicht :) . Guter Kommentar btw
Fasting 36 hour once a week or fasting 3 days every quarter isn't going to allow them to make any money!
If an authoritarian government like China rewards younger healthy folks with social credit points for fasting once a week, I imagine cancer for would fall off the cliff?
Until you see someone die from pancreatic cancer I guess you'll never understand how fantastic this news is. I hope you never have to experience that.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. what does that have to do with his statement of preventing the cancer in the first place?
It’s not “messenger RNA” in the shots, it’s “synthetic modified RNA”. It’s anything but natural.
You know what is natrual? Cancer is natural, and it kills people. Malaria is also natural, poison is natural. Nature does not care about your wellbeing.
The fruit that you eat isn't natural, and neither are your veggies. Grow up.
there is no difference between these two definitions. It's like saying that a water molecule H2O taken from a pond and H2O created in a laboratory with a oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms different and not natural.
@@andrewcrus One’s natural, the other isn’t, it’s lab made
@@Rachel-wz9cj you don't get the point. It's like Lego, but made of atoms. Under what conditions the atoms were assembled into one form or another does not matter - they are all the same atoms from the point of view of nature.
Truly you are amazing Dr Obulor on CZcams, your perfection is incredibly impressive. I’m glad that I got a permanent cure off Cancer from you…