Stunning lack of effort: Trump defense tepid in attack on Cohen's damning testimony
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Alex Wagner, Chris Hayes, Katie Phang and Ari Melber discuss whether the cross-examination of Michael Cohen by Donald Trump's defense in Trump's New York criminal trial did enough to discredit Cohen's damning testimony on Monday in the eyes of the jury.
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Cohen is not on trial. He has a right to speak. The defendant who’s trying to influence the jury does not.
It's Cohen that's influencing the jury. The jury can't listen to the news when Trump speaks.
He's on parole by the way.
DT is also a defendant in other felonies and has been shown to be civilly liable in 3 cases..so far. Just sayin'.
@@IMeMineWhooh no dummy. No felonies. When is Leticia James seizing his properties? Tv said! Lol 🤣 He's the next president. Go scream and stomp your feet lol 🤣
@@IMeMineWho Yes since he announced his candidacy. Just sayin.
Must be surreal being a Trump attorney cross examining Cohen, especially knowing in just a few short years you'll be sat where Cohen.
👏👏😂 truth!!
So cross-examining youself from the future? Basically a lawyer version of time travel movie? Or should I say a crime travel movie...
@@garybaldrickLMAO 🤣
Good comment!❤
That's what MAGA is all about - Making Attorney's Get Attorneys
Michael Cohen went to prison on account of actions he carried out on behalf of this defendant. Any animosity Cohen has toward the defendant is entirely justified.
Cohen doesn’t sell anti-Trump merch, that’s the Meidas Touch Network.
Yep, Ben Meiselas even corrected them on Political Beatdown
Why do they keep getting this wrong?
@@wanakone33And just now with KFA.
Well, literally, he does sell the merch, as he encourages people to buy it. He may not be the vendor or profit directly from it, but he sells it in the sense of someone making an ad saying buy this.
Yes why aren't they addressing the thing that they are there for? They've got nothing. That's why they are attacking the man
When I first saw Katie Phang I didn’t warm to her. But after all these months, I think she is spot on. She is the perfect blend of smart and sassy.
Is she still gniwolb Eric SwallowsWell
She is kinda sassy, isn't she!?!?!
I like her too. She grows on you....🙂
This case won’t make a difference to the MAGA Supporters, but to those who are undecided the prosecutors did an excellent job. Hopefully the jurors will find him guilty.
His support will skyrocket with a conviction, so by all means, convict. CLOWNS !!! 🤡
Trump was definitely guilty of being a better president than Obama. Beating Hillary was a great accomplishment. Currently 604 cases opened regarding 2020 election discrepancies.
"Did you call Trump a cheeto dusted cartoon villain?!" Cohen, "Yeah, sounds about right..."😁
Spot on.
Trump for prison,
LOCK HIM UP
Imagine a defendant who can't even help with his defense.
Well, he is literally sleeping.
@@kirtjames1353That's EXACTLY what I was going to say!😂
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I see what you did there😂
If you jail him you guarantee his re-election. Try and keep up!
@@jeffyfromfamilycircus sure, if it helps you to cope. 👍
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It's Meidas Touch merchandise not Michael.
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074So..... I'm selling mech for Niki everytime I wear their shoes, if I tell someone the name of the store I bought them in? Don't be purposefully obtuse, seriously!
@@meganm1074Is this spam?
If Trump loses this case, I'll sleep much better between now and election time.
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Everything is going to be okay.
Me too😁
Can cry like when Hillary lost 😢!
@josefeibl8230 you'd know. Trump is the biggest political loser in history.
Michael isn't selling those Tshirts: he was just wearing one.
They are someone else's product.....
Honestly MSNBC should do better
Yes, it's Meidas Touch's merch.
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 Enough with pushing misinformation! You aren't selling clothes everytime you put on a clothing item with a logo on it, even if you tell someone where you bought it.
Can't stand how they spread the lies!
Well you can't argue it's not Trumps signature on the checks. Or argue the substance of Cohen's testimony corroborated at every level. Even Hope Hicks said "We were all just following HIS lead"
Yet Dump is still the victim. Or so he cries every day.
Mr Cohen is not on trial here and NOT under a gag order! 😁 bad choice to have arrogant Ari on though 😞 more opinions 😖 Katie speaks absolute truth though!
I was surprised by Ari, he got it so wrong
I like both Katie Phang and Alex Wagner...agree with you about Ari Melber.
This is 2 places now where I've heard Ari say Cohen is selling anti-trump merch. It's not him, it's Meidas Touch. MT has confirmed it. I'm disappointed with Ari. He's usually better than this.
@@tareewoods2434 yes, I saw that on Meidas this morning, Ben confirmed
@@tareewoods2434 Thank you for pointing that out. I was wondering if Mr. Cohen does sell the shirts.
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Put him in jail already
Joe needs to go to jail because he took a shower and did thing to Ashley. Lock him up
No lol
@@Freewilly2000 ES&DYF
But what about your democracy you care so much about? Biden running unopposed or against someone in jail isnt very democratic. Jus sayin. 🤷♂️
@@jeffyfromfamilycircus That logic makes no sense. There are many criminals in the world, nobody forces them into politics. Just like nobody forced them committing crimes in the first place. I am sure there are plenty of candidates without a criminal past, Nikki Haley should take his place.
I hope trump takes the stand to defend himself, seeing how he claims this is all lies.
The defendant is not owning anything like always, which makes him look super guilty, which he is!
Who knew Trumps Lawyer was as big a snowflake as Trump. 😂
Because the Lawyer he gets has to do his bidding and Trump thinks he knows it all.
Michael Cohen is not selling merch. The merch in question was from Meidas Touch.
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074Ok it is spam
@@meganm1074 nonsense
@@meganm1074 “Promoting” is a more accurate way to describe it.
The defense is wasting it time..
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Joe Biden would take “inappropriate”showers with Ashley.,
Cohen was not selling Merch....The Merch was sold by Meidas Touch......
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 Quit being purposefully obtuse! I'm not selling shirts if I tell someone where I bought mine! Even if I say I really like it. You know they are implying Michael Cohen is profiting from selling anti-Trump merchandise. He isn't. Ari is misinforming the audience at best, slandering at worst.
@@mirandasdancewho cares about that? It's not even important to the substance of the case.
It seems to be getting rougher and rougher to listen to Ari Melber! Not sure why, but there's something there!
Tougher and tougher, too!
I SO agree. I wonder what it is ... I hope it isn't $$$$$$$
Never like to listen to him.
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It was very difficult to bring down Al Capone also! Capone was finally found guilty of tax evasion, and prohibition charges.
yes indeed
"Never stop fighting till the fight is done."
"Get outa here. You nothin' but a lot of talk and a badge."
Flaccid Donnie told his lawyers to rant and rave…then the Aderall stopped kicking in and Donnie just sort of petered out. His lawyers followed suit.
I mean that with no animus. I think it was what really happened. Donnie isn’t well and needs attention…
@@michaelbray109 He seemed deranged at his Jersey rally, that's for sure...
@@daydays12 more than usual…he is deteriorating
@@michaelbray109 indeed he seems to ..were those videos of Magas leaving that rally real? If so it could be a good sign. Maybe they're getting bored of their leader.
@@daydays12 when you watch the same show, it loses its lustre…especially when the old performer asks you to pay each time.
Could their lack of effort signal they aren’t worried because they have someone on the jury on their side?
almost certainly there's a Covfefe Drinker among the jury
Could be. Juror #2 is sus from his stated RW news sources. But we can trust that the actual documented evidence & two actual attorneys also on the jury will steer him straight.
could be - they are mobsters, and that's how the mob operates
I'd take that concern more seriously if his attorneys in the civil cases had been any more effective.
@@mr.flibble3190
Likewise. This ineptitude seems to be a firmly established pattern among Trump's defense teams.
One of the ways that Trump has been successful in the past is at implied threat, so that in case of doubt people may feel inclined to think that Trump has some kind of trick up his sleeve. He doesn't, but it can still be an effective scare tactic in daily life.
It's not so effective in court. Legal proceedings are sober and methodical by design. The court is a finder of fact, not a finder of drama, and there is very little opportunity for a big reveal by the defense at the eleventh hour. The process of discovery minimizes those kinds of surprises.
This also explains why so much of what Trump attempts is to sow chaos OUTSIDE of the court. As a malignant narcissist, he is no friend of due process or the rule of law. He has contempt for the court, not just for its authority but for its existence. So he cannot allow himself to take the proceedings seriously, and this means his lawyers are not encouraged to do so either. That's reason for their lack of effort.
I don't know much about grift. It's not my world. But it stands to reason that a really competent grifter can turn it on or off as the situation warrants. But Trump is not that kind of grifter. He can't turn it off to save his life, any more than he can turn off his narcissism. It's a severe disadvantage in court to present as a grifter, to direct a defense as a grifter thinks it should be played.
Vote 🗳️ blue trump is guilty as charged 😂😂
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Maybe the defense is lackluster because they have a juror or two in their pocket..?
Trying to discredit Cohen, but just what I expected from Blanche, full of rubbish like his client, what a waste of time! Get to the point Blanche, not Oh you don't like me do you wah?
Ari, I am a huge fan, but you truly missed what went on in the courtroom----even when Michael Cohen immediately said the shirt Blanch showed as Cohen trying to grift was not from Cohen's site; that should have been reported as it shows a giant lack of research/lapse by the defense and by you, Ari.
Welp..looks like another of
don-cheeto's attorneys is gonna get stiffed
I like you brought in both lawyers...Katie is straight.
Ridiculous that media networks keep calling the Meidas Touch merch Cohen merch. He has a podcast syndicated by Meidas Touch. Come on, do the minimal amount of homework FFS
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 I'm tired of media misinforming the audience. I expect better of MSNBC!
Blanche just proved Cowen right luv it
...and yet experts claimed todd blanche was a "brilliant lawyer" 🙄😂
Was
Past tense
A brilliant lawyer without any evidence to parry accusations against his client can never conjure therefore he ends up attacking witnesses who used to be a mirror of his client. SHAMEFUL BLANCHE
Just like they said "Mueller" was this best of the best lawyers. His stumbling and bumbling, testifying in front on Congress was sad. He couldn't remember parts of his own reports. They said Merrick Garland suppose to be brilliant. smdh!
He's a prosecuting attorney. He's not use to being on the defense team, and it shows.
Stunned by how clueless Trump's defense has been. Maybe a strategy to appeal on grounds of ineffective counsel.
Yes, something is a little off there. I wonder if it’s bcz Blanche simply doesn’t care anymore? Certainly hope it’s not something more nefarious!
Is that legal? Deliberately behave badly and then appeal on the grounds that you behaved badly? But it is the USA with what appears to be a dysfunctional legal system.
why should Diaper boy care about this court? He is just going to get set free by the Supreme Court.
Indeed. The US judiciary has been subverted
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Prison is full of victims that are innocent - just like Trump. What a slimeball.
I agree trump is a real slimeball
Lock him UP
They got Junior cleaned up enough (almost) to beg for donations while his Dad's hung up in criminal court. Imagine that - Junior begging for bucks cuz Dad's too busy dealing with indictments.
I wonder how hard it was to get him to look sober for that one video
Blanche lost credibility on day 2 in the eyes of the court
Birds of the same feather flock together.
Michael Cohen DOESN'T OWN the anti-Trump merch to sell. It is sold by the Meidas Touch Network.
Right. But he was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 You are skirting the truth and trying to muddy the waters. Ari is misinforming the audience if not slandering MC. Enough BS
Sorry its Meidas Touch Merchandise!! It was stated!!!
Yes. But he was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 why are you still trying to sell a lie.
. . . how does anyone defend a person whose guilt runs down their back like a yellow cascade?
This is what happens when the client’s check doesn’t clear
Michael Cohen made a fool out of Todd Blanch. It wasn't even close.
Jail trump in July 2024
Trump's lawyer, Blanche, started out in a whiny tone asking Cohen if he called Blanche a bad name on Tik Tok. Cohen answered with something like, 'Yeah. That sounds like what I would say about you." LOL
pretty hard to defend someone as wrong as trump... it breaks the legal Moral limit...
One CNN headline today for today read, "Cohen cross-examination kicks off with fiery exchange."
Tepid?
cnn and msnbc both have misleading splash banners ,,,its an insult
Well, the defense is trying to polish an orange turd.
Michael Cohen also suffers from PTSD as a result of his solitary confinement. Might also explain some of his unpredictability.
That is the beauty of cross examination...
birds of a feather..... and trump is the lead turkey!!
Micheal Cohen is a man who woke up, and realised my life is destroyed because of trump, and I am going to change, myself. He has done a great job of making himself a better person. Congratulations 🎉 to him.
Since NDAs are perfectly legal, you would have no reason to falsify tax records, unless ....
Are his attorneys intentionally botching the defense? 😂😂😂
Apparently, Todd Blanche has never seen, "Witness for the Prosecution".
Oh man, Ari Melber gets a lot wrong. That wasn’t cohen merch, it was Meidas Touch merch.
Jail D T
There need to be corroborating evidence for intent. It doesn’t need to be physical though- so that fact that Trump, after ignoring Stormy for years needed to fix that then and there, before the election is pretty strong- there are lots of people saying this not just Cowen.
Ari, you are full of it. Cohen DOES NOT sell anti-trump merch. Meidas touch does. Stop this nonsense. Defense was an atrocious weak trash, you give them credit for nothing. This is a stupid game you all in media are playing.
Listen to Meidas Touch, legacy media NEVER gets it right!!
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074Quit trying to muddy the waters! Ari was MISINFORMING THE AUDIENCE!
Trump’s attorney had no need to say that! It’s not about him !
That's all we can expect from Trump lately: Lying, blustering, and if all that fails, total helplessness.
Cohen says he does not merch, that is Meidas Touch. Get it straight guys.
Of course Cohen hates Trump. We all do.
He isnt selling Merch....that is Mediastouch merchandise.
The Merch the defense showed wasn't Cohan's Merch. That made the defense look like they were making up "alternate facts".
After all his previous experiences with turd, he wouldn't do that because he knew he wouldn't be repaid
They can't go to far in questioning him about the merits of his testimony about Trumps knowledge and role without making Cohen even more credible.
You people at MSNBC are just amazing especially Lawrence ODonnel from Philippines
Meh, Cohen doesn’t sell the merch, Meidas Touch does. Melber, after the Avenatti prison phone call I’ve come to realize you’ll say anything to get views.
Is that the reason why he's behaving so dubiously?
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 nonsense.
To be fair, the defnse is not supposed to be making a case right now. They will b trying to put forward a narrative in their closing argument.
What is the defence's narrative ? That Trump loves his family, that Cohen did it for love of Trump, or Cohen invented the whole thing because he hates Trump?
If trump is so innocent why doesn't the defense put him on the witness stand ? O I guess he's not innocent. Vote Blue !!
Cohen does not sell anti-trump merch....that merch is owned and sold by Meidus Touch, which Mea Copa, Cohens pod cast is part of their network. My God people, your leaving out where he even told Blanche it was not his merch
is that true? If it is it is reprehensible of the MSNBC presenters.
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074Right! Be careful to not wear clothes with logos. With your logic you'd have to pay income tax for selling it.
I am noting the merch is not Cohen's, It is from the Medias Touch. Cohen is part of that network but he doesn't profit from the merch or even sells it.
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074Nonsense!
This is typical mafia soldier ousting the mob boss. At some point you have to excuse previous bad behavior intended to protect the boss in order to catch the boss.
Pretty sure Trump has a "sleeper" on the jury.
There are great trail lawyers, then there are great paperwork lawyers that should never appear in court.
All professions have stars, mediocre, and terrible people in them.
You cant understand why proving the star witness is a liar is important?
Really?
You just cant get it?
The case is based on documents. Are you saying that documents lie? What about all the other witnesses?
Cohen is not a 'star' witness. He is a witness among others.
Trump is the defendant, not Cohen. Why doesn't Trump take the stand ?
Trump is a known liar.
Ari Melber : Cohen isn't selling anti-Trump merch... the website he is on, THE MEIDAS TOUCH, sells it. Please get your facts correct before making false proclamations.
Mr Melber has often appeared dubious when it comes to Trump....
He was selling it in the sense of publicly saying buy this. He’s not the vendor & may not profit directly, but he is literally selling it.
@@meganm1074 quit with the flying monkeys!
@@meganm1074 nah, he's literally not selling it. Midas Touch literally does sell it.
Get your facts right! Ari keeps going off on the Midas Touch merch, saying it's Michael Cohen's?!?! Each one of you repeated the misinformation but Ari has really leaned into it. Please retract it. You probably owe Michael Cohen and Midas Touch an apology too! It's important that the defense was so incompetent that they got their research wrong. It's awful that you keep repeating it. I expect better of you!
Ari Melber seems to think it was a blood bath. Over one call of many where the defense maybe scored a point (more a tie). Still unhappy with Cohen, Ari?
But Cohen DIDN'T talk about the trial, and the TicTok was not a post, it was a photo of him wearing a mea culpa T-shirt. And the merch is from the MeidasTouch website, not Michael's. These were the defence's accusations that Ari is repeating. I hope the Prosecution fact checks this on the follow up.
trump need to take the Stand to free speech his claims, talk to talk,walk to walk...come on Yapper...
Thanks for the buzzkill, Ari. :/
I hope Ari is far off this time. Usually he makes sense to me.
Cohen learned from trump. Trump used cohen
For sane adults, there are only two options: 1) Somehow there is the most inconceivable and complex conspiracy to stop the worst possible spokesperson for unpopular policies, (but not stop the many other people advancing those policies) or 2) He is a serial con-man and the law is slowly, but finally, catching up.
The merch was Meidas Touch merch. Why is this the second atty I've heard not catch that? That Blanche basically didn't do his homework and was blaming Cohen for a storefront that's not his??
That’s so funny … that’s something I would say …😂
Normally it's James Carville shocking Ari with idioms this time it was Katie phang and I love watching him process saying he's never heard
When she said pigs don't marry giraffes. My first thought was, trump was like 26 When his wife was born. Yeah he's fat, But you can definitely see her spots.
Defendant's team just keeps barking in the dark for no worthy reason other than to run the meter. Enough of the yawn yawn execution emasculation of the pasty little dough boy. The jury is sold already. Dont let them develop buyers remorse and abandon their position of positive progress to neutralize the threat.
Waste of server space